For those wondering both the Doscinco and Cincotres came with correct polarity 👍 And Shoutout to Jeff for being the 1st channel member, thank you man 🙏
Nope. Love your videos which helped get me the EA500LM. Love them with the S400 eartips to lessen the treble and such. Keep up with the great videos ❤🔥
I've had my set of the Cincotres for a couple of days. My impressions matched yours almost exactly (especially in regard to the comparison with the Quintet). Great all around set.
So good video drop Jay, It's great to see you have more listening experience with endgame stuff like the strom to helps you evaluate diminishing returns of the more affordable budget sets. So far, I like a lot my Pula PA02 however I've noticed that a side grade with a more energetic tuning could be a perfect addition to them. The pula really shines at higher volumes (that's quite a trademark) but is not something I do often (its still a happy endgame set for my needs). On the pa02 the bass is quite muddy (with quantity but lack of technical unlike the performer5 that have more hollographic immersive ability)
Nicely Done. Spot on. I like them. Any idea how I find out which ear tips they are using ? Would like to have some backups. (maybe from amazon) No info. on there web page :( Thanks
Thanks! I'm sorry I can't join on a monthly basis as I'm on social security disability . I'm trying to save up to get a decent set. If you could Jay,is there anywhere where I can read or watch your feelings on the Plunge? And as far as scalability I re-watched the video so I see your thoughts. Thanks for all your help. Erik
Yo!!! I appreciate the donation even when you’re on social security. Do you happen to live in NA/UK? I can send you a pair of nice IEMs. Hit me up on my email yjayy88@gmail.com
@@jayyaudio ah bro!!! It's all good. Seriously if you could just give me some direction on the plunge did you guys write something somewhere I'll go right I'll go read it. I'm trying to save up and I'm thinking about the ziigatts and I'm also thinking of the Plunge. I came into some cash a couple of years ago I had to spend or lose it. And I was able to get some decent items and help out as much as I could. Now I'm able to save up a little bit each month. So I have to really spend my money wisely. So do I go for the great sounding standard kind of signature or do I really take the Plunge? Don't get me wrong I can't even get a ziigatt just yet. But if I do my homework now I can save up a little while longer. And again I enjoy your work but I love Michael Bruce's work. So when you guys say the mids are missing and I don't have any way of testing it it's an issue. Again I'm usually on point with you as well as Mike you both love the ej07!!! As do I. I was fortunate a couple of years ago to get that right off the bat. So thank you for the offer but I'm okay. I've learned to live within my means and appreciate things. Not just monetary things I still end up giving them away usually. LOL. I love the gear I love the music. So again I respect you both and I've been a fan of Mikes for quite a while. And Tone Monk is fine. He's a little bit of a nut too as we all are at least I am.And Paul Wassabi is great in his mellow way. I appreciate you guys for your differences!!! So thanks bro but I'm good. Please help somebody that needs it!!! I can wait and I can save up. You've actually been a great help with saving money I love it!!! Thanks keep up the great work stay healthy have fun enjoy each other's differences 😊 Erik PS if it's okay I'd love to email you. I have some questions I've been dying to ask you. I think you'll appreciate it!! Peace my brother
I've got the ea500lm on the way and wondering if you think that the doscinco is better as something different compared to going for the cincotres? Obviously, it depends on personal preferences etc but keen to get any thoughts. I enjoy most genres from foot tapping dance, complex classical... I've got some Sennheiser ie600 which are great for classical complexity and some old 7hz Timeless which are fun (as well as the Truth Ear Hexa - which I only started to appreciate when I started using a Chord Mojo 2). I haven't got anything truly heavily bass focused and was tempted by the doscinco after your review of it. Or if the cincotres has the bass of the doscinco and more all round.
@@jayyaudio thanks! I was leaning that way after hearing your review of the Doscinco. There aren't many reviewers I buy blind based on their reviews. You're one that I do!
Yeah 2024 is nuts thanks to reviewers discoveries and I feel the dual DD attempts are really making qualitative advancements. That 2DD bass presentation might become the next standard.
@@a7i82it depends on what kind of sound signature you like. Trust me, the Conch according to almost all the reviewers can be very siblent, meaning very trebley. You definitely want to pick the tip that reduces the treble. And I'm somebody that normally can take extra treble. And even with picking the tip that reduces the treble the most, it still can be a little bit peaky. The EW200 is way more balanced and can be played significantly louder without it hurting your ear. They both have very good bass for the money. Fairly quick and not muddied with good decay. I would say the conch is definitely a little snappier with bass. And then the conch has just a ton of extras, a decent case, different terminations 2.5 4.4 3.5 for the cable. They're both built extremely well for the money and have a little weight to them and should hold up for years. If I can help in any other way please let me know. Good luck! I hope this helped!!! Erik
And again I'm talking about for the money before anybody jumps down my throat lol if you are comfortable with playing with ear tips, don't even bother with cables. Yes, cables can make a difference but nowhere near as much as the ear tips. Just use the cable that come with whichever Iem you choose .If you use foam ear tips with the Conch and change the tip to the one that has the least treble. Which by the way, the Conch comes with three different tips. And I'm not talking about ear tips. I'm talking about the actual stem that comes off of the earpiece. If you pick the one that has the least treble and use foam tips and or small bore tips, I feel the Conch is Definitely the better bargain. Don't get me wrong. The EW200 is pretty sweet but the Conch is crazy for the money. I'm poor and I bought a couple of sets for my nieces. That's how good it is.
Thanks for the review. I kinda torn between these, the Doscinco and the S15. I mostly listen to of metal and rock but also dip in other genres from time to time like techno or hip hop.
Awesome review as always🏆✊🏾 as always i love your comparisons, however do you still prefer the Pula02? Aaaaaand wich one would you chose of theese and the performer 5?
@@jayyaudio What would you say about the staging and imaging experience compared to the Pulas? I found the Pulas quite unremarkable and narrow in that regard.
I like listening to ADO and was looking into buying simgot EA1000, however I also want to have variety and listen to rap music's wonder if this would be fine for Ado's usual gritty signature
I like jpop and kpop and like pop lmao just wanted to ask cincotres or doscinco?? I do enjoy bass as well and some say getting the cincotres is still better? So just tell me which one of the 2 to buy pls 🙏
jay, i dunno if your familiar with bollywood music but doscinco vs cincotres for bollywood music? if unfamiliar, doscinco vs cincotres for vocals which is better? also, which would be suitable for most genres, movie watching, podcast listening, long sessions, an all rounder basically? also, i fuck wit EQ so tonality not a dealbreaker
God damn it Jay, you come out with this video right now I literally last night pulled the trigger on a set of Penon serials. I thought to myself Man I'm getting a great deal, great set, it's musically inclined it's not so Technical. I was digging it. Then you come out with this damn video. why do you do this to me? Why do you hate me so 😅😅 I told myself hey I'm only going to get a few iems just one or two That's all I need no more than one or two to enjoy what I like to do. Then I get into this heroin addiction which is iem collecting; and then Jay you come out and you give us deal after deal after deal. You're killing me I'm going to start selling t-shirts that says Jay you're killing me with a wallet turned inside out and spider webs coming out. thank you Jay,thank you for everything that you do😊😊
Hey jay! I have a set of hype 2's on the way. Would you recommend returning them for the cincotres? I got the hype 2 for about 10% less than the cincotres, will be with upcoming sales too Thanks, jay!
Thanks for the review! I am using the Chopin and find the treble/Upper mids slightly too harsh, can't play at a higher volume. Would you say the Cincotres solves this?
Just recently stumbled across your videos and i love the iem list as it lets me just read up and compare. I currently have the moondrop arias, and was thinking of upgrading. Based on your list for jpop you said cincotres was solid but would it be worth the extra money to get the hype 4?
wonder if its at all discernable, the mid BA choice, according to linsoul site, looks like the 2 BA from cinco should cross over into the bass more so than the dos. looks like similar BA models to hype2 vs hype4
My Cincotres just arrived. Too soon to pass final judgement. Only A/B against my S12 pros (odd comparison I know). That said so far I love them enough to think that I am done buying IEMs for awhile...have nearly lost all interest in the Dusk (after downloading Wavelet just to dodge the DSP issue). Cable is much lighter weight (which frankly is more comfortable). I might end up EQing the bass down a little. Other than that I think they are perfect.
Funny thing that people still talk about the variations in 2024. I’ve had my set since 2022 and still enjoy them. Next stop after this is either Hype 4 or MMK3 👀
Your graph for the Doscinco is completely off. Its supposed to be much more subbass. Look at your own graph database, it starts off at 75 at 20hz, not at 70 as you show here...
My largest critique for the Cincotres is the treble.. There's some metallic shimmering going on in many tracks that sounds very colored. It sounds crisp in some tracks, but in many tracks its overpowering or the dry hihat sounds quite a bit "too dry".
I already addressed this. They reached out to me AFTER seeing my reviews. I have date receipts for this. Stop making false accusations without any info.
My guy, that's how chifi works, better iterations comes out after the other, or do you prefer the same thing all the time rofl I also don't review most "bad" IEMs because it's a waste of time zzz
man, i really wish I jumped straight to the monarch but the logistics is a pain (whereas the hype4 was available locally). That being said, I might stop here for a while, though I've never tried ziigaat and the 53 looks interesting.
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For those wondering both the Doscinco and Cincotres came with correct polarity 👍
And Shoutout to Jeff for being the 1st channel member, thank you man 🙏
Nope. Love your videos which helped get me the EA500LM. Love them with the S400 eartips to lessen the treble and such. Keep up with the great videos ❤🔥
I keep going back and forth in my head if I should get this or the Doscincos as I love killer bass but like detail and treble as well
Jay what are the differences between the cincotres, arete, and estrella
Thank you! You've made my start in this hobby a really easy and enjoyable experience!
Thank you for the support 🙏
Dude I got these and they are amazing🎧🔥 Very airy and detailed mids and highs despite excellent impact in the midbass and subbass
Great to hear
I wonder if it will compete with new dusk 2
Excellent review. Bought them! Thanks-you.
I've had my set of the Cincotres for a couple of days. My impressions matched yours almost exactly (especially in regard to the comparison with the Quintet).
Great all around set.
So good video drop Jay, It's great to see you have more listening experience with endgame stuff like the strom to helps you evaluate diminishing returns of the more affordable budget sets.
So far, I like a lot my Pula PA02 however I've noticed that a side grade with a more energetic tuning could be a perfect addition to them.
The pula really shines at higher volumes (that's quite a trademark) but is not something I do often (its still a happy endgame set for my needs).
On the pa02 the bass is quite muddy (with quantity but lack of technical unlike the performer5 that have more hollographic immersive ability)
Thanks for this video Jay answers a lot of my questions.
You totally Rock👍👏👏👏!!
Comparison between Cincotres and sliivo sl41 please
Yes please!!!
Nicely Done.
Spot on. I like them.
Any idea how I find out which ear tips they are using ?
Would like to have some backups. (maybe from amazon)
No info. on there web page :(
Thanks
Try tangzu Sancai regular
Thanks! I'm sorry I can't join on a monthly basis as I'm on social security disability . I'm trying to save up to get a decent set. If you could Jay,is there anywhere where I can read or watch your feelings on the Plunge? And as far as scalability I re-watched the video so I see your thoughts. Thanks for all your help. Erik
Yo!!! I appreciate the donation even when you’re on social security. Do you happen to live in NA/UK? I can send you a pair of nice IEMs. Hit me up on my email yjayy88@gmail.com
@@jayyaudio ah bro!!! It's all good. Seriously if you could just give me some direction on the plunge did you guys write something somewhere I'll go right I'll go read it. I'm trying to save up and I'm thinking about the ziigatts and I'm also thinking of the Plunge. I came into some cash a couple of years ago I had to spend or lose it. And I was able to get some decent items and help out as much as I could. Now I'm able to save up a little bit each month. So I have to really spend my money wisely. So do I go for the great sounding standard kind of signature or do I really take the Plunge? Don't get me wrong I can't even get a ziigatt just yet. But if I do my homework now I can save up a little while longer. And again I enjoy your work but I love Michael Bruce's work. So when you guys say the mids are missing and I don't have any way of testing it it's an issue. Again I'm usually on point with you as well as Mike you both love the ej07!!! As do I. I was fortunate a couple of years ago to get that right off the bat. So thank you for the offer but I'm okay. I've learned to live within my means and appreciate things. Not just monetary things I still end up giving them away usually. LOL. I love the gear I love the music. So again I respect you both and I've been a fan of Mikes for quite a while. And Tone Monk is fine. He's a little bit of a nut too as we all are at least I am.And Paul Wassabi is great in his mellow way. I appreciate you guys for your differences!!! So thanks bro but I'm good. Please help somebody that needs it!!! I can wait and I can save up. You've actually been a great help with saving money I love it!!! Thanks keep up the great work stay healthy have fun enjoy each other's differences 😊 Erik PS if it's okay I'd love to email you. I have some questions I've been dying to ask you. I think you'll appreciate it!! Peace my brother
And how lucky are all of us to have you guys. What a great hobby. Even with all the dirty stuff some of the manufacturers pull. LOL
Tack!
Appreciate it man!
I've got the ea500lm on the way and wondering if you think that the doscinco is better as something different compared to going for the cincotres?
Obviously, it depends on personal preferences etc but keen to get any thoughts.
I enjoy most genres from foot tapping dance, complex classical... I've got some Sennheiser ie600 which are great for classical complexity and some old 7hz Timeless which are fun (as well as the Truth Ear Hexa - which I only started to appreciate when I started using a Chord Mojo 2).
I haven't got anything truly heavily bass focused and was tempted by the doscinco after your review of it. Or if the cincotres has the bass of the doscinco and more all round.
Go for Doscinco
@@jayyaudio thanks! I was leaning that way after hearing your review of the Doscinco.
There aren't many reviewers I buy blind based on their reviews. You're one that I do!
I never understood the Variations thing. I think the steep pinna with the big 3k peak is what turned me off on them.
Another banger video, brother - agreed with you 100%
IEM ranking list is broken
Yeah 2024 is nuts thanks to reviewers discoveries and I feel the dual DD attempts are really making qualitative advancements. That 2DD bass presentation might become the next standard.
Would like to see a review on the Sliivo SL41 please.
Later
Can this be an endgame to some cause im still holding my money (saving) for a killer in the $200 range?
Yup these are solid all rounders if you’re not looking to spend more
@@jayyaudio Thanksss man 🔥🔥
Are you planning to do a full review on the trn conch? Pretty curious on how it compares to others in it's price range.
I was able to get the Conch for 22 bucks and it's definitely the best bargain out there!!!!
@@eriklscott64 I really want to know how it fairs against the ew200 and if the ew200 is worth it despite the less accessories and higher price.
@@a7i82it depends on what kind of sound signature you like. Trust me, the Conch according to almost all the reviewers can be very siblent, meaning very trebley. You definitely want to pick the tip that reduces the treble. And I'm somebody that normally can take extra treble. And even with picking the tip that reduces the treble the most, it still can be a little bit peaky. The EW200 is way more balanced and can be played significantly louder without it hurting your ear. They both have very good bass for the money. Fairly quick and not muddied with good decay. I would say the conch is definitely a little snappier with bass. And then the conch has just a ton of extras, a decent case, different terminations 2.5 4.4 3.5 for the cable. They're both built extremely well for the money and have a little weight to them and should hold up for years. If I can help in any other way please let me know. Good luck! I hope this helped!!! Erik
And again I'm talking about for the money before anybody jumps down my throat lol if you are comfortable with playing with ear tips, don't even bother with cables. Yes, cables can make a difference but nowhere near as much as the ear tips. Just use the cable that come with whichever Iem you choose .If you use foam ear tips with the Conch and change the tip to the one that has the least treble. Which by the way, the Conch comes with three different tips. And I'm not talking about ear tips. I'm talking about the actual stem that comes off of the earpiece. If you pick the one that has the least treble and use foam tips and or small bore tips, I feel the Conch is Definitely the better bargain. Don't get me wrong. The EW200 is pretty sweet but the Conch is crazy for the money. I'm poor and I bought a couple of sets for my nieces. That's how good it is.
Also, if you check Jay's short videos I think he has something about the conch. I'm going to go and check it out myself. I saw it this morning.
Great review, I’m eager to get mine, tracking them every day, but think they are like 2 weeks away
Hope you enjoy it
Good one! Hoping to see an ARTTI R3 review (comparing to R2).
Please can you Review Them with the Oracle MK1 If the vocals are better the female ones than this iem or Not thanks!
Oracle better
Thanks for the review. I kinda torn between these, the Doscinco and the S15.
I mostly listen to of metal and rock but also dip in other genres from time to time like techno or hip hop.
Probably Doscincos
Wish I could buy this in the USA. If you have buying links to Amazon in USA, I would love to help you. Some IEMs only come directly from over-seas
All good man
Awesome review as always🏆✊🏾 as always i love your comparisons, however do you still prefer the Pula02? Aaaaaand wich one would you chose of theese and the performer 5?
These over Pulas by just a little since they’re a better all rounder
@@jayyaudio ok!! Thank you!!
@@rafioled8997they have alot better production Work
@@jayyaudio What would you say about the staging and imaging experience compared to the Pulas? I found the Pulas quite unremarkable and narrow in that regard.
Jay, What usb dongle would you recommend for doscinco? Something small size but good. Thanks
Apple dongle all you need
Listening to this on my Cincotres, thanks for the recommendation.
I like listening to ADO and was looking into buying simgot EA1000, however I also want to have variety and listen to rap music's wonder if this would be fine for Ado's usual gritty signature
Cincotres would be better
ZiiGYATT
LOL
I was waiting for this niceee 👍 Please compare the technicalities too..I m classical music lover..
Tech is good
can you do a comparison to the Fudu? does the cincotres have better bass texture and rumble?
Better
@@jayyaudio Does the Cincotres slam harder and deeper than Fudu? asking because on graph the Fudu has way more bass.
Is there a review planned for okavango?
Great thumbnail bro!!
Thanks bro
I never heard of the doschincos, you got a review?
ya it's on my channel
I like jpop and kpop and like pop lmao just wanted to ask cincotres or doscinco?? I do enjoy bass as well and some say getting the cincotres is still better? So just tell me which one of the 2 to buy pls 🙏
cinco would be better
jay, i dunno if your familiar with bollywood music but doscinco vs cincotres for bollywood music? if unfamiliar, doscinco vs cincotres for vocals which is better? also, which would be suitable for most genres, movie watching, podcast listening, long sessions, an all rounder basically? also, i fuck wit EQ so tonality not a dealbreaker
Cincotres
hey jay, i got em6l , is it really a significant upgrade to go get cincotres? or skip it saving for more for epz 530
Skip and go for something else
God damn it Jay, you come out with this video right now I literally last night pulled the trigger on a set of Penon serials. I thought to myself Man I'm getting a great deal, great set, it's musically inclined it's not so Technical. I was digging it. Then you come out with this damn video. why do you do this to me? Why do you hate me so 😅😅
I told myself hey I'm only going to get a few iems just one or two That's all I need no more than one or two to enjoy what I like to do. Then I get into this heroin addiction which is iem collecting; and then Jay you come out and you give us deal after deal after deal. You're killing me I'm going to start selling t-shirts that says Jay you're killing me with a wallet turned inside out and spider webs coming out. thank you Jay,thank you for everything that you do😊😊
Hahahaha serials are still great, some people like it more than the Cincotres as the tuning is different, enjoy and thank you for the support
got doscincos and im sending them back, too bassy and dark for my library cincotres time.
HBB was saying its on par with Hype 4. Is there any difference and is it worth the $400 price tag.
Hype 4 is better, but this is pretty close
I haven't had luck with reverse image search. What's the logo on your baseball cap?
Very excited to hear these and the doscincos.
Epik high merch!
How would you compare them to the Mangrid Top?
Better tuned imo, but not as resolving
Is the doscinco muddy or bloated in the mids? I hate that wet blanket effect some warm sets have, but loooove bass lol
You’re better off with the Cincotres
Hey dude thanks a lot for the reviews. I'm wondering what your MID-/HIGH volume on the left on spreadsheet means exactly?
Recommend listening volume
@@jayyaudiothanks bud! Ordered.. Can't wait to hear that midbass slam..
Whats the issue at high volume?
Use spinfit w1 with Hype 2 and poweramp EQ than the vocals will BE insane good
Could you compare Legend Evo with Scarlet mini ? And which one do you prefer ?
I like the EVO more, better controlled Bass and way more resolving, but Scarlet is less shouty and scales better
Hey jay!
I have a set of hype 2's on the way. Would you recommend returning them for the cincotres? I got the hype 2 for about 10% less than the cincotres, will be with upcoming sales too
Thanks, jay!
If you can return hype 2 at full price then go get the Cincotres
Thanks for the review! I am using the Chopin and find the treble/Upper mids slightly too harsh, can't play at a higher volume. Would you say the Cincotres solves this?
It's less but if you want smooth and higher volume that'd be the Doscinco
Just recently stumbled across your videos and i love the iem list as it lets me just read up and compare.
I currently have the moondrop arias, and was thinking of upgrading. Based on your list for jpop you said cincotres was solid but would it be worth the extra money to get the hype 4?
Yup, Hype 4 is nice
aful p5 isn't really compared a lot with the new releases
is it still competing with them?
these are better
What makes them better?
@@zblus prob better techs
aful p5 sound signature is still good tbh
How is it vs. Chopin?
I like it more
Hows the bass texture and quality compared to doscinco
Similar
wonder if its at all discernable, the mid BA choice, according to linsoul site, looks like the 2 BA from cinco should cross over into the bass more so than the dos.
looks like similar BA models to hype2 vs hype4
Wonder if the Jupiter is the upgrade
Dunno, maybe
Hi Jay, the cincotres is better than sa6 mk2?
I like it more ya, SA6 MK2 more detailed
how about select BTW the xenns top or cincotres? thx
My Cincotres just arrived. Too soon to pass final judgement. Only A/B against my S12 pros (odd comparison I know). That said so far I love them enough to think that I am done buying IEMs for awhile...have nearly lost all interest in the Dusk (after downloading Wavelet just to dodge the DSP issue). Cable is much lighter weight (which frankly is more comfortable). I might end up EQing the bass down a little. Other than that I think they are perfect.
So which ones did you prefer?
Thanks for the recomendatjon buying these now. Lmao they are even on amazon so its perfect cause i got a giftcard. Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
I dislike harman tuned sets now a days. No matter how well implemented it may be I'm so done getting any set tuned that way. Awesome review Jay
Good for Jazz?
yup
Cincotres or Doscinco for rock?
Doscinco
Get the Cincotres and EQ the sub bass difference when you need it. Done.
Ohh yes they are King and Kong 🤙🏻
i miss the old jays audio pfp
Hi, Jays, do you put the Cincotres on the same level as the Hisenior Mega5p?
better
Ziigaat x Fresh Reviews Arete soon?
sure
Funny thing that people still talk about the variations in 2024. I’ve had my set since 2022 and still enjoy them. Next stop after this is either Hype 4 or MMK3 👀
Only if those have better vocals than oracle og i would be angry that i brought hype 2 a month ago
Nah Oracle OG better
@@jayyaudio thanks does the Oracle MK2 have a similiar Tuning? Because on RUclips there are No Sound Demos Just for MK2.
Your graph for the Doscinco is completely off. Its supposed to be much more subbass. Look at your own graph database, it starts off at 75 at 20hz, not at 70 as you show here...
?
My largest critique for the Cincotres is the treble.. There's some metallic shimmering going on in many tracks that sounds very colored. It sounds crisp in some tracks, but in many tracks its overpowering or the dry hihat sounds quite a bit "too dry".
Which source are you using ? Low impedance can cause problems with some dacs
Aren't Ziigaat is a sub brand of ThieAudio.
Dunno
Hm… hyping up a brand before releasing a collaboration with that brand. Interesting…
I already addressed this. They reached out to me AFTER seeing my reviews. I have date receipts for this. Stop making false accusations without any info.
@@jayyaudio Kinda like when you were throwing shades at Crin?
And now for the best iem in the sub 500 dollar category, the yanyin canon 2.
Maybe
The benchmark king strikes again 😂. Shilling almost as hard as Zeos.
My guy, that's how chifi works, better iterations comes out after the other, or do you prefer the same thing all the time rofl
I also don't review most "bad" IEMs because it's a waste of time zzz
man, i really wish I jumped straight to the monarch but the logistics is a pain (whereas the hype4 was available locally). That being said, I might stop here for a while, though I've never tried ziigaat and the 53 looks interesting.
You’re good bro Hype 4 is great, and thanks for the channel support 🙏
Aint no waying
Yes waying