Can I Run A Marathon With 8 Weeks Training? | Road To Osaka

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  • @dapwhu66
    @dapwhu66 Год назад +7

    20x400 “…not too difficult…” great advice on threshold sessions. Thanks Ben.

    • @greganikin7003
      @greganikin7003 Год назад +1

      It is not difficult at all when you picked proper pace and recovery.

  • @graeme6733
    @graeme6733 Год назад +6

    Another excellent video Ben. Chuffed to hear you've started a podcast as well. It was good o hear you explain threshold runs. I'm struggling to get my head around the difference between a threshold run and a tempo and the purpose of each. Would be great if you could cover this in one of your videos.

  • @simongardner2066
    @simongardner2066 Год назад +2

    Try and check out Kita Area (umeda) when in Osaka, a blaze of colour and noise. I love Japan, great country to visit. Good luck

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад

      Thanks for the tip, I’ll keep that in mind

  • @rasmushagberg6865
    @rasmushagberg6865 Год назад +2

    Regarding the threshold training. It feels like a 3 x 10 minute threshold should be much harder than a 20 x 400m. I'm thinking mostly since the total rest is pretty long. Do you still count them equally in terms of potential benefit? Or is it more a way of mixing it up to make it more fun?

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад

      I typically would run the 400m reps slightly faster but yes would agree the 3x 10mins is a little harder usually. Mainly to mix it up but also work on flushing lactate as it builds during the shorter reps

  • @w00dy778
    @w00dy778 Год назад +7

    Good luck Ben! Enjoyed your previous series for Valencia, looking forward to seeing how you get on this time!

  • @TheFODRunner
    @TheFODRunner Год назад +4

    Great stuff, looking forward to following along again!

  • @monstrellsf-w8277
    @monstrellsf-w8277 Год назад

    Osaka is sick! Some of the best denim in the world is produced there

  • @johnwardlaw6204
    @johnwardlaw6204 Год назад +1

    Looking forward to potentially seeing you in Osaka!

  • @nicholascox8143
    @nicholascox8143 Год назад

    Love your channel Ben!

  • @alexanderingal3707
    @alexanderingal3707 Год назад +1

    Hi Ben, good luck in Oasaka! A question on morning runs and long run specially: is it a hungry run or you have a breakfast? Do you use gels in long trainings?

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад +1

      For morning runs I usually have a small breakfast and coffee before heading out the door. I typically won’t take any gels with me if this is just an easy run but yes, for longer runs I take gels with me. I’ve just uploaded episodes 2 of the road to Osaka which is all about what I eat for my runs :)

  • @erickessler8691
    @erickessler8691 Год назад +1

    That Mizuno is a super sexy shoe. Hope this block goes really well for you Ben.

  • @FordyRuns
    @FordyRuns Год назад +2

    Well done lad looking forward to see how you get on with this block.

  • @deanevans3968
    @deanevans3968 Год назад

    Good luck Ben!

  • @MultiJones93
    @MultiJones93 Год назад +1

    I'd love to go to Japan and try all that tasty food. Really good opportunity for you man, enjoy it!

  • @lionheart4552
    @lionheart4552 Год назад +1

    Good luck Ben, but If I've got this right, It has only been a month since Valencia ( which didn't go to plan ), you have since been unwell & now you plan to run yet another marathon In eight weeks time ! I have a slight feeling this Isn't going to end well 😐

  • @runningwithsam
    @runningwithsam Год назад +3

    have you changed you fueling strategy for Osaka? great video love the pod keep it up!

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад +1

      I have yes, will cover that in the next few episodes

  • @rockylopez1198
    @rockylopez1198 Год назад +1

    Ben, I live near Osaka, I would love to have the chance to run with you!

  • @kophotography895
    @kophotography895 Год назад +1

    GFI #benisrunning. I am just getting over that 2 week cold/flu bug... nasty little bleep

  • @laurencharltonn
    @laurencharltonn Год назад +1

    Excited to follow you along in this block! What is your opinion on using cross training as the “easy double”? Also on easy runs do you run to a pace, heart rate or feel?

  • @English.runner.en.Espana
    @English.runner.en.Espana Год назад +2

    Full Froth for this...
    Question: What do you plan to do differently in this block than the last and what would/will you change in the actual race itself. Cheers Ben

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад +3

      Great question. Will include this in the next episode

    • @English.runner.en.Espana
      @English.runner.en.Espana Год назад

      @@BenIsRunning Awesome. Keep up the hard work Ben. Your an inspiration!! Yew

  • @redstonep7607
    @redstonep7607 Год назад +1

    But your 10 weeks Valencia training was just a month ago, I don’t think you drop off your fitness so fast…… 8 weeks should be enough. Just go with 3:25 min/k.

  • @nath9091
    @nath9091 Год назад

    Have fun! I was in Japan on holiday in November and got my current Park run PB in Tokyo Hikarigaoka. Osaka seems fairly flat although they may put the route through the castle grounds which look quite nice.
    Like most Japanese historical buildings they're actually from late 19th/early 20th century as the old ones were destroyed by fire. It's a weird country with drink vending machines everywhere but no real street food and lots of queuing. Also don't expect anyone to speak English (not saying they should) but pointing and Google translate sorts most things. There's also sometimes English menus.
    Ps: Osaka airport airside is pretty bad for food. Most stuff was closed at about 7pm. The only options were a coffee cafe place that was ridiculously busy and surprisingly the duty free that had a fridge with decently priced but no hot food

  • @timverkoyen8742
    @timverkoyen8742 Год назад +1

    Hi Ben. Love the channel (a lot!). Will you change and test your fueling strategy to prevent the same happening as in Valencia? Keep it up and will follow you in RUclips and your new podcast! 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️

  • @tkwasik
    @tkwasik Год назад

    Yet another shoe Tuber with face expression on thumbnail like some1 parked in his back door - why ?????

  • @jobanski
    @jobanski Год назад +1

    Only 8 weeks to train?! You’ll be tapering almost after training starts! I’m guessing you’ll be shooting for a “less aggressive” finish time?

  • @kevinenglish5460
    @kevinenglish5460 Год назад

    Tough ask to be ready in 8 weeks but hard to turn that down.Best of luck.

    • @lionheart4552
      @lionheart4552 Год назад +1

      I wish Ben all the luck In the world but I have a feeling that this is going to be a disaster .

  • @scotthedley4361
    @scotthedley4361 Год назад

    Love the thoughts on the threshold runs - thanks! A question on the long runs in this block: are you targeting a specific energy system or is it a building miles and kit/nutrition practice? It seemed to be right in the middle of your easy/threshold paces. Thanks mate. Love your work!

  • @pinkturtlesfly
    @pinkturtlesfly Год назад +1

    What will be your longest long run for Osaka? And what is your average long run distance (more or less)?

  • @PoetWithPace
    @PoetWithPace Год назад +1

    8 weeks? Are you sure Ben, especially as you are still sick? 🤔

    • @lionheart4552
      @lionheart4552 Год назад +1

      I love Ben's enthusiasm, but I think this time somebody should have a word.

    • @PoetWithPace
      @PoetWithPace Год назад +1

      @@lionheart4552 maybe he is reading these comments?

  • @noelthatcher1996
    @noelthatcher1996 Год назад +1

    Hi Ben,
    Great video. Let me know if you need any advice re Japan. I’ve been going there for over 25 years and have raced over 10 marathons there so have plenty of experience of getting over jet lag:-)

  • @timothylam1068
    @timothylam1068 Год назад

    Hi Ben, how do you find your threshold pace? Thanks

  • @filippoferrari2275
    @filippoferrari2275 Год назад

    Good luck Ben!!
    Question for next episodes: why did you go back to two double threshold days instead of one double threshold day + one marathon pace workout like you did in the Valencia prep?

  • @ntsikelelomaqubela2754
    @ntsikelelomaqubela2754 Год назад +1

    Hi Ben. Just finished watching this video and immediately subscribed. I'll be using the weekend to watch all your other videos. I'm running the London Marathon in April. It's my first marathon ever. The most I've run before was 20km last year around March. I mostly do Park runs on Saturday mornings. Being doing these for several years now. Recently (Aug '21) moved to the UK from South Africa. I'm really struggling with the temperatures in the morning when I do most of my running. Can you suggest some light warm long sleeve tops one can wear that would provide insulation in this really difficult weather to run in?
    I'm going to follow your running plan religiously from here on out. Finding your channel has been a godsend!!

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад +1

      Appreciate that! Hope you enjoyed your weekend binge 😂 my personal favourites for long sleeves are from soar running and saysky. Both are a little bit on the expensive side but you really do get what you pay for. Super quality :) good luck with the London training!

  • @vincewarne228
    @vincewarne228 Год назад +1

    Hey Ben - I'm keen to know on your long efforts when do you start to bring fueling into the mix? 15 miles, 18 miles+ only ask as those gels are expensive!

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад +1

      For me anything over 25km, covered this topic a little in todays video :)

  • @jonathonsanderson3289
    @jonathonsanderson3289 Год назад +1

    Another great video Ben, i have a question, during a race/run/session if you hit abit of a wall mentally what is the best way to get past it without it affecting you too much?, i had this issue during my marathon at 22 miles and it just killed the race for me

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад +2

      I think back to all the hard runs in training, maybe that run when you really didn’t want to do it but you got it done anyway? That always helps me :)

  • @colinlivingstone8045
    @colinlivingstone8045 Год назад

    Eight weeks is not enough time to prepare for a competitive Marathon, especially Osaka. A long, sustainable, invigorating endurance cycle is required with plenty of relaxed longer runs, varied intensities, hills, occasional fartlek, VO2 or steady state runs. Tempos should only be run judiciously, as they are not as specific or as effective as a VO2 session (i.e 5x3 mins @5k pace off 90 secs to 3.00 mins) or a Park Run at 90%. Phasing in the appropriate recoveries, trials or development races, a short training block is 12 weeks. Ideally, the longer preparation cycles of 16-24 weeks are required to realise endurance potential. I see you have run 67.15 for the Half, 86th in the flat Copenhagen race, or 104th in Britain : which should translate to 14.41 5k, 30.34 10k and 2.19.53 for an optimally trained endurance runner over a full 24 week preparation cycle. Long relaxed runs of 2.00 hours to 2.45 should be a regular part of the Marathon conditioning cycle, which is is 97% aerobic. Depletion and repletion benefits typically occur after 1.45, through to 2.45 to gain a maximal , sustainable training effect.

  • @mckonal
    @mckonal Год назад

    sir, what is your target pace for OSAKA?

  • @JavierISampedroTNF
    @JavierISampedroTNF Год назад +1

    What an awesome opportunity! You deserve it. Let's go Osaka!

  • @leslie7922
    @leslie7922 Год назад +1

    Foreigners: oh sar kar
    Japan: or sah kah

  • @fitz1888
    @fitz1888 Год назад +1

    Good luck with the block - looking forward to seeing how you do!
    Q - I’d be interested to know, do you add warmup & cooldown distances pre/post sessions to your weekly mileage when writing a plan?

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад +1

      Thank you! I do include that in my milage yes. I typically do a 2 mile/3km warm up and cool down before any session so always good to factor that into my plan :)

  • @leandrokansuke5222
    @leandrokansuke5222 Год назад

    I can speak Japanese! Let me know if you need some help!

  • @thalescarrafiello883
    @thalescarrafiello883 Год назад +1

    why do you run your long run faster than easy pace? Do you run it at a consistent tempo or do you switch between easy pace and some efforts?

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад +1

      Mainly to practice fuelling for marathon race day. I in theory should gain more in the form of fitness and preparation to race the marathon than if I were to do it at an easy pace

  • @tomttl
    @tomttl Год назад +1

    So great to have you in Japan for the Osaka marathon! I'm sure you'll have a great time here, keep it up with the good work🔥

  • @pauldouglass1272
    @pauldouglass1272 Год назад +1

    Awesome stuff as always Ben. New specs too ? Looking fresh! Like you, I have to deal foggy lenses!

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад

      I broke my other glasses playing a silly Christmas game, these are my old ones 😂

  • @eddiegaul1903
    @eddiegaul1903 Год назад +1

    Wow, what a treat to be able to run that marathon. I am looking forward to seeing your training and how you progress. Keep up the good work Ben!

  • @villehalmes
    @villehalmes Год назад +1

    Great video and good luck for the new block Ben! Thanks also for new podcast, good stuff!!

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад

      Thanks Ville, glad to hear your enjoying the new podcast too

  • @ericbeall7675
    @ericbeall7675 Год назад +1

    Thats so exciting, I'm going to be in the Philippines, then Japan from Feb 1st to Feb 18th. Wish I could run the Osaka marathon, but the timing is slightly off sadly.

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад

      Have a great trip nonetheless 🇯🇵

    • @ericbeall7675
      @ericbeall7675 Год назад

      @@BenIsRunning I will do, best of luck to you with your training and in the race!

  • @matthewgillespie7634
    @matthewgillespie7634 Год назад +1

    Great video ben! Are you going to be doing anything differently in this buildup vs the last one for Valencia ?

  • @jamesduysen9078
    @jamesduysen9078 Год назад +1

    Hey Ben, good stuff. I have a question on threshold pace. How do you calculate your current threshold pace, since it is a moving target based on fitness? Can it be estimated with HR if you have a pretty good grasp on your HR zones? I have trouble wrapping my head around "a pace that you could hold for 1 hour".

    • @FlyingLizards45
      @FlyingLizards45 Год назад

      You can use a VDOT calculator to get your threshold pace based on a recent race result. Another way to think about it is comfortably uncomfortable. It’s a hard effort that you should be happy it’s over when you’re done, but shouldn’t leave you feeling like you need to stop.

  • @shanethos
    @shanethos Год назад

    How do you test your current threshold pace, are you just going off metrics on your watch or did you do a specific threshold test session to get a baseline?

  • @manfredh.7591
    @manfredh.7591 Год назад +1

    Hi Ben, could you elaborate on how you determine current threshold pace?

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад +1

      There are a few ways. 1, race a half marathon and you threshold should be ever so slightly quicker day by 2/3 sec per km, 2, my watch estimated mine based on heart rate data 3, it’s a rough pace that you can maintain for an hour, a sort of 7/8 out of 10 on the perceived execution and 4, you can do a lactate test in a lab :)

  • @sergioromero2588
    @sergioromero2588 Год назад

    Hi Ben! I’m using Pace 2 as well for the track. What is the best way for you to track it in the most accurate manner? I use sometimes just the lap button to mark the split (for instance the 400m) and based on the track lines but sometimes the watch marks 1 or 2 meters up or down so the pace is not great. Any suggestions? Does it mark it better if you set on the watch the structure workout in advance? Thank you so much and good luck with the prep! 😃

  • @Thommouk
    @Thommouk Год назад

    Don’t need to wish you luck as you’ll knock it out the park mate! Japan - amazing! Deserve it buddy

  • @Jamieallthegearnoidea
    @Jamieallthegearnoidea Год назад

    Hey Ben, I’m trying to build my volume but I don’t seem to recover well from runs in regards to soreness. Do you find that when you increase your volume the way you have that you’re sore after sessions in particular your long Sunday run? Any tips for recovery?

  • @mitchellboocock2456
    @mitchellboocock2456 Год назад +1

    Happy new year Ben. Hope 2023 is a good year for you. Hope to see you at some races sometime this year. #runtoinspire

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад +1

      Same to you! Hope your training is going well

  • @deadnightwarrior6669
    @deadnightwarrior6669 Год назад +1

    Looking forward to the new series! Considering your Valencia experience, what is going to be your fuelling strategy in Osaka?

  • @viktorisakov9698
    @viktorisakov9698 Год назад +2

    Osaka? That’s nice!

  • @adammadill9379
    @adammadill9379 Год назад

    will you race before the marathon to test your fitness? like maybe a 10k, but you don't have much time tbf

  • @joedeering9525
    @joedeering9525 Год назад

    Missed a bit... are you running doubles every day of the week or only on T/Th? Also - will you have a chance to review the shoes before you race??

  • @UWU-eq3kx
    @UWU-eq3kx Год назад

    Hi Ben. Don’t know if this has been said but do you also have a job, are you studying or is RUclips and running your career?

  • @chrisbrown111
    @chrisbrown111 Год назад +1

    How do you track HR is it by watch only or strap?

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад

      I use a heart rate arm based monitor, called the polar sense

  • @gdm9488
    @gdm9488 Год назад

    Hey Ben, running my first marathon in April so trying a plan out but the first week of January I had rough flu and got no running or training done at all. How have you gone about catching up with your plans as it is my first time hitting some of the long run distances so I don't want to get injured pushing it too early.

  • @ciluburkhardt5763
    @ciluburkhardt5763 Год назад

    What shoes did you use in the video?
    What are your favorite tempo running shoes?
    Good luck and be careful not to get injured

  • @AwesomeJenkins
    @AwesomeJenkins Год назад

    You mentioned double threshold days. Will you be doing any shorter speed work to build leg turnover or inserting some pure speed into your long runs over the weekend runs?

  • @MuzzOfficial
    @MuzzOfficial Год назад

    Love the vids, inspired me to book Brighton marathon this year! Q: will you be doing any of the 'big marathon sessions' in this training block that you used for Valencia? i.e. 4x5km or the 5 sets of 2km @MP / 1km float / 1km @threshold / 1km float etc.

  • @ajaybn
    @ajaybn Год назад +1

    Good luck Ben! Sometimes less is more.

  • @lukebodman8699
    @lukebodman8699 Год назад

    Do you think speed work is necessary for marathon training?

  • @nickd.9179
    @nickd.9179 Год назад

    Very cool! Will you be using the same Coros watch from the last series?

  • @aaronjwright
    @aaronjwright Год назад

    Good luck on Osaka and the block. What's the app you use that calculates your threshold pace?

  • @aafrancis21
    @aafrancis21 Год назад

    what do you do for active recovery? A recovery run or another activity like yoga...etc?

  • @vigoss.3904
    @vigoss.3904 Год назад

    Ben I think you should try the puma deviate nitro 2 :) very underrated shoe!

  • @zoevickers3781
    @zoevickers3781 Год назад

    Hey Ben! How do you calculate your threshold? (you mentioned it had changed since November).

  • @willhoyland6383
    @willhoyland6383 Год назад

    Hi Ben, how do you determine your threshold pace? Also, what HR is this run at?

  • @Snerunseasy
    @Snerunseasy Год назад

    All the best, thanks, you an inspiration... I'm interested in the threshold,do you do it on your marathon pace or faster?

  • @finnrattray
    @finnrattray Год назад +2

    Q: Why do you prefer training for the marathon/running it more than any other distance?

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад +2

      As in why do I prefer to run marathons more than other distances?

    • @billowen3285
      @billowen3285 Год назад

      @@BenIsRunning yeah, it seems that people start 5ks from parkrun then go onto marathons (even kipchoge I think)

  • @Mark-bf2ro
    @Mark-bf2ro Год назад +1

    Where did you get the data for the 'current threshold' graph, please?

  • @idodor1592
    @idodor1592 Год назад

    Come to Israel 🇮🇱

  • @RunThePlanet
    @RunThePlanet Год назад

    Good luck in Osaka Ben, will be good to see your race and coverage of that one !!

  • @andrewbakescakes9684
    @andrewbakescakes9684 Год назад

    I got the Itabashi marathon in Tokyo mid March. Let's hold each other to our miles!

  • @Cqual21
    @Cqual21 Год назад

    Love the reminder that you need to stick to your current threshold pace as not to burnout early in the block. Question: Do you plan on incorporating above threshold workouts on a regular basis? Maybe strides at the end of easy session? Thanks!

  • @callumffd3239
    @callumffd3239 Год назад

    Question: How does your training for Osaka to vary from the Valencia training?

  • @motivationthreshold
    @motivationthreshold Год назад

    Exciting! Congratulations 🎉
    Mate you having a lot of colds lately though 😮

  • @TimeGoesBack
    @TimeGoesBack Год назад

    “Trying to film here bud” 😂

  • @ismail-hossain1993
    @ismail-hossain1993 Год назад

    World best one

  • @runfreeultra
    @runfreeultra Год назад

    Nice one Ben, good luck with the training and thanks for the break down of your 8 week approach 👍 ^Rorie

  • @Flight-of-Life
    @Flight-of-Life Год назад

    Wow that's amazing. Japan definitely on my bucket list

  • @jackaplin2986
    @jackaplin2986 Год назад

    Hi Ben - been loving your channel for a year now, hope you smash it in Osaka 🏃‍♂️- what’s the best way of running faster kms (currently around 4:50/5:10 atm but would love to take that right down this year).
    Many thanks mate hope that cold clears up! X

    • @billowen3285
      @billowen3285 Год назад +1

      I think intervals are good for increasing speed

  • @Thekidscancallyouhoju
    @Thekidscancallyouhoju Год назад +1

    Ben v moose

  • @finlayhague9198
    @finlayhague9198 Год назад

    How are you working out your threshold pace?

  • @buttsniffa7469
    @buttsniffa7469 Год назад

    Ben, do you know the total elevation for the Osaka marathon? I'm just curious as there looks to be a hilly section, but no numbers regarding total elevation over the course

  • @markbateman9222
    @markbateman9222 Год назад

    I wouldn't worry too much about only having 8 weeks to prepare. All the work you did for Valencia will stand you in good stead. Remember, due to the issues you had in that race, Valencia wasn't an all out physical effort. To put it another way, all the cash you deposited in the bank for Valencia hasn't been withdrawn yet. It's still there, waiting to be spent!

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад

      I like your thinking mark! Unfortunately a little bit of the cash was lost due to illness over the Christmas period but certainly building back up nicely :)

  • @kenklee4
    @kenklee4 Год назад

    Good sir, do you watch anime?

  • @GuoGuangChiou
    @GuoGuangChiou Год назад

    👍

  • @olegundel169
    @olegundel169 Год назад

    What time are you planning to run?

  • @robertrobertson5586
    @robertrobertson5586 Год назад +1

    Hey Ben! Might be a stupid question but on your double threshold days do you still run 400s/800s threshold or faster? Thanks

    • @BenIsRunning
      @BenIsRunning  Год назад

      Typically a little faster than the longer reps but certainly try to keep them within that threshold effort, especially if it say 20 or even 25x 400m :)

    • @robertrobertson5586
      @robertrobertson5586 Год назад

      Thanks for the reply much appreciated! My suggested threshold is 4:02 per km, so would you recommend 5s faster for short 5s slower longer 🤔 struggle to find much info on this, thanks again

  • @jameswilson870
    @jameswilson870 Год назад

    Hi Ben how did you find your threshold pace. Was it on the coros app? I wonder if it in the Garmin connect app

  • @larrydavid1354
    @larrydavid1354 Год назад

    Is it safe to do a marathon within a month of the last one?

    • @Kelly_Ben
      @Kelly_Ben Год назад

      There's a video out there on this that's really interesting. They said basically don't worry about training to go faster/ longer in between, as it will set you up for injury. Recover lightly for a week or two, then maintain fitness, because at that point you're ready for the next taper.

  • @liamward8451
    @liamward8451 Год назад

    Best of luck 🤞

  • @jennysmith8835
    @jennysmith8835 Год назад +3

    Second, 😰 🔥

  • @iq_by_0303
    @iq_by_0303 Год назад

    How excited are you to go to Japan? Have you ever been there?