Hi Chris... I just found this about Sterling Moss's BGS861A 1963 MGB . "BGS was totally rebuilt from the shell up for use by Malcolm Gammons and Glen Jarvis in the 1989 event. The car performed faultlessly and they took a class win and 15th overall - the best standard car by miles, winning the team award for MG with Stirling Moss and Ron Gammons.In 1990 the car was fully modified to FIA standards, bored out to 1840cc with Webber 45DCOE carburation to provide 130bhp, via a close ratio gear box and Quaife Limited Slip Diff. In this (its current) specification, BGS was driven to seventh place by Rally legend, Roger Clark, with Tony Masson on ‘the clocks’ in the 1990 Pirelli Classic Marathon.For 1992 it was back to the Classic Marathon, this time sponsored by Mitsubishi, the crew being Sir Stirling Moss and Zoe Heritage. The pair had run a big Healey in the 1991 event but decided to go back to an MGB for 92, Stirling putting BGS through its paces to finish another faultless performance in seventh place" FYI Jeff
My 1962 MG MIdget Mk I had the "standard" hood/top which stored in the boot/trunk along with its frame and side curtains. There were many times that I had to pull over, remove everything and install them because of oncoming rain. I believe I could do it faster than your permanently attached frame and top. Love the car!!!!! BMC rules and BLMC drools.
Only just seen this, apologies. Yeah I have been in that situation a fair few times myself! If it was raining heavily I'm sure that would have provided ample motivation to speed up 🙂.
@@CharltonsClassics The fastest I ever had to do it was when I was crossing the Florida Everglades in 1970 with a date in my Midget Mk I (aka Sprite Mk II). I have to admit that I was trying to impress her more than just trying to keep her dry. This was probably my personal best time at about 3 minutes. When she asked how I was able to do it so fast, I replied, "Practice, lots and lots of practice." The storms in the Everglades were just like driving through a car wash. They usually came fast and left fast.
Well thank you for the kind words. It’s a shame we can’t keep all of our old cars, because we always look back and wish we had! Never to late to buy another one though… 😊
Very nice car. One point: NEVER close the bonnet by pushing in the center. Always close with a palm on both sides of the extreme front corners and press down. I currently have a 1963 , same color, same wheels. Thanks from Oregon USA.
Actually, pushing in the center is exactly the right way to do it. Put the bonnet down all the way but the final click, then gently but firmly push in the center.
@@themistermax We'll let that be your little secret. But, please, stay away from my car and any other with an aluminum bonnet/hood. Here is just one professional source on the RUclips channel: University Motors LTD 003 MG Tech How to Close an MGB Bonnet.
Ahh fantastic. Great to see classics being revived! I didn’t mention it in the video but the underside of my chrome bumpers have been thoroughly coated in hammerite to stop them corroding from the inside-out. Seems to be doing the trick…
@NAda hi, as tempting as that conversion is please BEWARE it rarely ends up proper and is a massive job . as a MG shop owner I've seen many droopy frt ends, they look awful. If you get the rubber bumpers body colour matched they somewhat "disappear" ... then lower the car, fit wider rims/tyres and you have a fine MGB!
@@CharltonsClassics ---lol, I had 550hp last year but killed it, it was terrifyingly fast (i do miss the rush!)---this is a sweet cruiser engine though
I had a green 1972, that I had repainted BRG, did the suspension bushings, brakes, exhaust, added a roll bar and replaced the flush grill with an inset one (I think that was all). ;-) I forgot to ask, "where's the third wiper" (maybe on U.S. versions)?
Sounds like you had a great car on your hands! Yes the 3 wipers were only a requirement in the US as I don't think 2 cleared enough water. Something I can understand after one of my recent drives ha
Yes it was fun during the rare sunny days here in the greater Seattle area. Recently, I've missed it or my 66 Corvair convertible (140hp). My mom had a 64 Corvair convertible (110hp) and my oldest brother had a "new" 71 MGB (post NAVY) during my early to mid teens (no wonder I like ragtops). ;-)
Thanks. So the roll bar was purchased from the MG Owners Club about 35 years ago! Their website has a number of options depending on year. Also the fitting instructions make reference to the removable cover, even though the pictures are without… www.mgocspares.co.uk/parts/1_3_355_2921_3780/roll-over-bars Hope that helps 😊
Just came back to see the car again, beautiful. You and I seem to be in the minority of those who like mudflaps. I have a question about the Peter Burgess cylinder head. I have been conversing with him ( via e mail) about getting one of his cylinder heads. You mentioned stage 2. Is this intended for basically stock engines with replacement free flow exhaust and a "hot street cam" ? Is there a noticeable difference in performance. The only modification to my engine from stock is a "hot street cam". Otherwise stock with a Moss TT exhaust system and electronic ignition. Would the stage 2 be suitable for this set up? Next week I will be installing a fresh gearbox and clutch. I have been putting this off. The previous owner managed to damage first and reverse in this 3 synchro box. I will also be attending to some engine oil leaks and install some fresh motor mounts, an upgraded 3/4" sway bar and some other goodies to include replacing both front and rear shocks and suspension bushings. I'll be removing the downdraft WEBER (also installed by the PO) and putting on the proper SUs, which I have just rebuilt including throttle shaft bushings. New heat shield etc. This is my second MGB, sold my 1964 about 2 years ago, missed it so much I bought this 1963. Prior I have owned a 46 TC, 50 TD, 53 TD Mk II, 56 MGA, 1969 MGC GT, a 1959 Fairthorpe Electron Climax, 5 Land Rovers 1958-1974, 1980 SD 1, several Morris Minors, 4 Thames vans, 1954 Oxford, 1960 Oxford, 58 Sprite. Can't have too many Brit cars.
Hi Jeff, thanks for the comments there. Yes I don’t see too many with mudflaps, but it’s a sickening feeling hearing stones bounce down the side of the body, so always worth adding them in my opinion. As for for the Peter Burgess head, yes that’s my understanding. Stage 2 is a good setup for fast road use. I have Maniflow headers, piper 270 cam & K&N filters. Combined together the car runs at about 130bhp at the crank, so about 30% more than standard and quite a noticeable power difference. Plenty for day to day driving. Whilst I’m no expert, I would think that a stage 2 would be suitable for your car, and it may be worth considering free flow headers too. Sounds like you will have plenty on your hands with the restoration. Hope it all goes well 😊 I will be doing another video covering specifically the engine bay, as I have been informed by my grandad that I missed some of the best bits off haha. All the best Jeff. Ps, nice car collection over the years!
@@CharltonsClassics Thanks for the reply Chris. I have "spoken" via e mail with Peter Burgess and I think I'll propose a stage 2 to him and see what he thinks. Incidentally, Moss motors compared their TT Stainless headers with the factory stock header and reported there was virtually no difference. I'll explore other headers and see what difference they will make.. I'll check on Maniflow. PS in my storage I have for MGBs.. 4 engines (2 Gs and two Vs) 7 gearboxes which included my newly rebuilt 63 and a later 4 synchro O drive) extra heads rebuilt but not ported (yet), gauges, vintage wooden gear knobs, NOS Grilles and radiators on an on. , about 8-10 sets of carbs , 5 drive shafts, lots of chrome bits, new and used calipers, 2 original radios, Lucas for and driving lamps, several ashtrays, on and on. Time to put some of these to use, Oh and though my car is a solid wheel car I have 2 or three sets of wire wheels. PS I just had a birthday lunch and party with my 100 yr old friend Geoff Green from whom I bought my first MG in 1964 the TD MK II.
@@jeffhildreth9244 Sounds like you've got quite a collection of parts there. I'm sure many will find their way onto projects soon and will be brought back to life :). Whilst I've never dealt with Peter Burgess directly i hear that he is an expert in his field, so you cant go wrong with that. Cheers Jeff
@@CharltonsClassics Thanks.. and by the way, we have a Brit car club here in So Oregon USA.. I share my stash (and time) with other MG owners. Never a monetary exchange. Cheers.
lovely B m8! but built Dec 72, with the 73 - 75 mesh grille, shouldn't it be reg. 73? my BGT built 3/72 has the MkII recessed grille ... and maybe the last 68 - 71 medieval 5 wire Lucas alternator, but hey it STILL works :-0! 💕 my B!
Nice to see your attention to detail there! Got my facts wrong it seems. To my knowledge it came off the production line in Dec 1972, but was registered in Jan 1973 (as per the reg doc). For me that makes in a 1972 car right?
@@CharltonsClassics well, by its grille it's 73-spec ... my silly detail knowledge is bc I own a MG/Triumph garage; gotta try learn everything lol. Ok here's a bit to check - windscreen washer container, hard bottle or squishy bag? let me know 🤔😎
@@CharltonsClassics right then ... they went squishy in 73. so, like me w / my B's prehistoric alternator ... we have mutts! MG was always cash - strapped, had to use up what they had. couple of amusing stories I could share when time permits 😂
@@forestghost7 Ahh well I guess that makes it quite difficult to identify the exact year when close to the crossover point. I will stick with 1972 ha. Thanks for the wisdom and insight there. Appreciate it 😊
I can see why people don't like them; and it does cloud rear visibility a bit, but for me it just takes the edge off the wind which i found a bit annoying actually ha
@@0_0.-333 It's called a windscreen / wind deflector / wind blocker depending on what website you are searching on. I bought it from a company called Raceland. Cheers :)
Ahh no. The roll bar is very well secured. But the rear mesh wind screen isn’t bolted in with the supplied brackets. It is held in place inside the roll bar, and is very snug with no movement. Makes it easy to remove if required 😊
Love the car its gorgeous!!! However! And it's a small however, 🤣 I don't like the roll bar, but it's the only thing I would get rid of, I'm new to the channel and loving it. Cheers bud, really does look great.👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
Ahh thank you. Can’t take much credit myself ha. I know why you mean with the roll bar. The car does look pretty sleek without one, but for me it’s a nice reassurance in the unlikely event of a roll. Also does an excellent job of holding the wind screen…another item which is a desired taste, but great from a drivers perspective! 😊
Great car. Great story. Great delivery.
Very nice car I have a 72 also had it 36 years now still enjoy it
Thank you 😀
OMG that thing is gorgeous!
Thank you. I’m very lucky to have it 😊
Hi Chris...
I just found this about Sterling Moss's BGS861A 1963 MGB
. "BGS was totally rebuilt from the shell up for use by Malcolm Gammons and Glen Jarvis in the 1989 event. The car performed faultlessly and they took a class win and 15th overall - the best standard car by miles, winning the team award for MG with Stirling Moss and Ron Gammons.In 1990 the car was fully modified to FIA standards, bored out to 1840cc with Webber 45DCOE carburation to provide 130bhp, via a close ratio gear box and Quaife Limited Slip Diff. In this (its current) specification, BGS was driven to seventh place by Rally legend, Roger Clark, with Tony Masson on ‘the clocks’ in the 1990 Pirelli Classic Marathon.For 1992 it was back to the Classic Marathon, this time sponsored by Mitsubishi, the crew being Sir Stirling Moss and Zoe Heritage. The pair had run a big Healey in the 1991 event but decided to go back to an MGB for 92, Stirling putting BGS through its paces to finish another faultless performance in seventh place"
FYI
Jeff
My 1962 MG MIdget Mk I had the "standard" hood/top which stored in the boot/trunk along with its frame and side curtains. There were many times that I had to pull over, remove everything and install them because of oncoming rain. I believe I could do it faster than your permanently attached frame and top.
Love the car!!!!! BMC rules and BLMC drools.
Only just seen this, apologies. Yeah I have been in that situation a fair few times myself! If it was raining heavily I'm sure that would have provided ample motivation to speed up 🙂.
@@CharltonsClassics The fastest I ever had to do it was when I was crossing the Florida Everglades in 1970 with a date in my Midget Mk I (aka Sprite Mk II). I have to admit that I was trying to impress her more than just trying to keep her dry. This was probably my personal best time at about 3 minutes. When she asked how I was able to do it so fast, I replied, "Practice, lots and lots of practice."
The storms in the Everglades were just like driving through a car wash. They usually came fast and left fast.
Gorgeous MGB
Great vid……… took me back to when I had my 1972 red MGB soft-top between 1997 - 2004.
Seeing your lovely car makes me wish I’d never sold mine
Well thank you for the kind words. It’s a shame we can’t keep all of our old cars, because we always look back and wish we had!
Never to late to buy another one though… 😊
Very nice car.
One point: NEVER close the bonnet by pushing in the center.
Always close with a palm on both sides of the extreme front corners and press down.
I currently have a 1963 , same color, same wheels.
Thanks from Oregon USA.
Just done a bit of reading into this out of curiosity, and it looks as though I’ve been doing it wrong for years! Thanks for the advice there Jeff 🙂
@@CharltonsClassics I learned the hard way : )
Actually, pushing in the center is exactly the right way to do it. Put the bonnet down all the way but the final click, then gently but firmly push in the center.
@@themistermax We'll let that be your little secret.
But, please, stay away from my car and any other with an aluminum bonnet/hood.
Here is just one professional source on the RUclips channel:
University Motors LTD
003 MG Tech How to Close an MGB Bonnet.
@@jeffhildreth9244 Who said anything about aluminum? Anyway, I'd be happy to stay away from your precious car, and you. NP.
That exhaust does sound good. Completely different from any others I've heard.
Ahh thank you. Yes for me it’s the perfect balance between sounding sporty, but not being too loud. Do fully recommend Maniflow.
I drove a '72 B for years - GREAT car except for that whole "keeping it running" thing. Crazy fun to drive.
To be fair, mine is very low maintenance. Aside from oil and filter changes, there’s little that needs doing out of necessity. Best way ha
I’ve got a 77 that I’m bringing back to life. Only mod I want is that beautiful chrome bumper set. Nice MG man.
Ahh fantastic. Great to see classics being revived! I didn’t mention it in the video but the underside of my chrome bumpers have been thoroughly coated in hammerite to stop them corroding from the inside-out. Seems to be doing the trick…
@NAda hi, as tempting as that conversion is please BEWARE it rarely ends up proper and is a massive job . as a MG shop owner I've seen many droopy frt ends, they look awful. If you get the rubber bumpers body colour matched they somewhat "disappear" ... then lower the car, fit wider rims/tyres and you have a fine MGB!
Very nice MGB
Beautiful car - Thanks for posting!
what a nice "B". I've got a '64 "B" (slightly modified, custom chassis&suspensin, sbc (400hp)) fun car, they make a pretty good hot rod too
Thanks 😊
I can’t even begin to imagine what 400bhp feels like in one of these! 😳
@@CharltonsClassics ---lol, I had 550hp last year but killed it, it was terrifyingly fast (i do miss the rush!)---this is a sweet cruiser engine though
Good on you for keeping the original valve cover. Those aluminum valve covers just make them push oil out.
Not my experience with the right gasket.
I had a green 1972, that I had repainted BRG, did the suspension bushings, brakes, exhaust, added a roll bar and replaced the flush grill with an inset one (I think that was all). ;-)
I forgot to ask, "where's the third wiper" (maybe on U.S. versions)?
Sounds like you had a great car on your hands!
Yes the 3 wipers were only a requirement in the US as I don't think 2 cleared enough water. Something I can understand after one of my recent drives ha
Yes it was fun during the rare sunny days here in the greater Seattle area.
Recently, I've missed it or my 66 Corvair convertible (140hp).
My mom had a 64 Corvair convertible (110hp) and my oldest brother had a "new" 71 MGB (post NAVY) during my early to mid teens (no wonder I like ragtops). ;-)
Hi Chris - great MGB! - where did you get the roll bar? Thanks
Thanks. So the roll bar was purchased from the MG Owners Club about 35 years ago!
Their website has a number of options depending on year. Also the fitting instructions make reference to the removable cover, even though the pictures are without…
www.mgocspares.co.uk/parts/1_3_355_2921_3780/roll-over-bars
Hope that helps 😊
Amazing number... Was it a coincidence?
Ahh the registration? Yeah, it’s always had that one 😊
Just came back to see the car again, beautiful. You and I seem to be in the minority of those who like mudflaps.
I have a question about the Peter Burgess cylinder head. I have been conversing with him ( via e mail) about getting one of his cylinder heads. You mentioned stage 2. Is this intended for basically stock engines with replacement free flow exhaust and a "hot street cam" ? Is there a noticeable difference in performance.
The only modification to my engine from stock is a "hot street cam". Otherwise stock with a Moss TT exhaust system and electronic ignition. Would the stage 2 be suitable for this set up?
Next week I will be installing a fresh gearbox and clutch. I have been putting this off. The previous owner managed to damage first and reverse in this 3 synchro box.
I will also be attending to some engine oil leaks and install some fresh motor mounts, an upgraded 3/4" sway bar
and some other goodies to include replacing both front and rear shocks and suspension bushings.
I'll be removing the downdraft WEBER (also installed by the PO) and putting on the proper SUs, which I have just rebuilt including throttle shaft bushings. New heat shield etc.
This is my second MGB, sold my 1964 about 2 years ago, missed it so much I bought this 1963.
Prior I have owned a 46 TC, 50 TD, 53 TD Mk II, 56 MGA, 1969 MGC GT, a 1959 Fairthorpe Electron Climax, 5 Land Rovers 1958-1974, 1980 SD 1, several Morris Minors, 4 Thames vans, 1954 Oxford, 1960 Oxford, 58 Sprite.
Can't have too many Brit cars.
Hi Jeff, thanks for the comments there. Yes I don’t see too many with mudflaps, but it’s a sickening feeling hearing stones bounce down the side of the body, so always worth adding them in my opinion.
As for for the Peter Burgess head, yes that’s my understanding. Stage 2 is a good setup for fast road use. I have Maniflow headers, piper 270 cam & K&N filters. Combined together the car runs at about 130bhp at the crank, so about 30% more than standard and quite a noticeable power difference. Plenty for day to day driving.
Whilst I’m no expert, I would think that a stage 2 would be suitable for your car, and it may be worth considering free flow headers too.
Sounds like you will have plenty on your hands with the restoration. Hope it all goes well 😊
I will be doing another video covering specifically the engine bay, as I have been informed by my grandad that I missed some of the best bits off haha.
All the best Jeff.
Ps, nice car collection over the years!
@@CharltonsClassics Thanks for the reply Chris.
I have "spoken" via e mail with Peter Burgess and I think I'll propose a stage 2 to him and see what he thinks.
Incidentally, Moss motors compared their TT Stainless headers with the factory stock header and reported there was virtually no difference.
I'll explore other headers and see what difference they will make.. I'll check on Maniflow.
PS in my storage I have for MGBs..
4 engines (2 Gs and two Vs) 7 gearboxes which included my newly rebuilt 63 and a later 4 synchro O drive) extra heads rebuilt but not ported (yet), gauges, vintage wooden gear knobs, NOS Grilles and radiators on an on. , about 8-10 sets of carbs , 5 drive shafts, lots of chrome bits, new and used calipers, 2 original radios, Lucas for and driving lamps, several ashtrays, on and on. Time to put some of these to use, Oh and though my car is a solid wheel car I have 2 or three sets of wire wheels.
PS I just had a birthday lunch and party with my 100 yr old friend Geoff Green from whom I bought my first MG in 1964 the TD MK II.
@@jeffhildreth9244 Sounds like you've got quite a collection of parts there. I'm sure many will find their way onto projects soon and will be brought back to life :).
Whilst I've never dealt with Peter Burgess directly i hear that he is an expert in his field, so you cant go wrong with that.
Cheers Jeff
@@CharltonsClassics Thanks.. and by the way, we have a Brit car club here in So Oregon USA..
I share my stash (and time) with other MG owners. Never a monetary exchange.
Cheers.
lovely B m8! but built Dec 72, with the 73 - 75 mesh grille, shouldn't it be reg. 73? my BGT built 3/72 has the MkII recessed grille ... and maybe the last 68 - 71 medieval 5 wire Lucas alternator, but hey it STILL works :-0! 💕 my B!
Nice to see your attention to detail there! Got my facts wrong it seems. To my knowledge it came off the production line in Dec 1972, but was registered in Jan 1973 (as per the reg doc). For me that makes in a 1972 car right?
@@CharltonsClassics well, by its grille it's 73-spec ... my silly detail knowledge is bc I own a MG/Triumph garage; gotta try learn everything lol. Ok here's a bit to check - windscreen washer container, hard bottle or squishy bag? let me know 🤔😎
@@forestghost7 ahh well you certainly know more than me then 😂. It’s got a hard plastic washer bottle
@@CharltonsClassics right then ... they went squishy in 73. so, like me w / my B's prehistoric alternator ... we have mutts! MG was always cash - strapped, had to use up what they had. couple of amusing stories I could share when time permits 😂
@@forestghost7 Ahh well I guess that makes it quite difficult to identify the exact year when close to the crossover point. I will stick with 1972 ha. Thanks for the wisdom and insight there. Appreciate it 😊
Nice car. That windscreen thing... not for me. I threw mine away. I happen to like wind. Isn't that part of why we love these cars?
I can see why people don't like them; and it does cloud rear visibility a bit, but for me it just takes the edge off the wind which i found a bit annoying actually ha
@@CharltonsClassics what's the name of that part?
@@0_0.-333 It's called a windscreen / wind deflector / wind blocker depending on what website you are searching on. I bought it from a company called Raceland. Cheers :)
Did I understand right that you didn't bolt the roll bar in? That's not a good idea.
Ahh no. The roll bar is very well secured. But the rear mesh wind screen isn’t bolted in with the supplied brackets. It is held in place inside the roll bar, and is very snug with no movement. Makes it easy to remove if required 😊
@@CharltonsClassics sorry, I misunderstood. Love the MGB. I'm in the middle of restoring one that was headed for the scrapyard
@@stuwhite2337 Thank you. Great that you’re saving one from extinction 😊. Hope the restoration goes well 👍🏼
Love the car its gorgeous!!! However! And it's a small however, 🤣 I don't like the roll bar, but it's the only thing I would get rid of, I'm new to the channel and loving it. Cheers bud, really does look great.👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
Ahh thank you. Can’t take much credit myself ha. I know why you mean with the roll bar. The car does look pretty sleek without one, but for me it’s a nice reassurance in the unlikely event of a roll. Also does an excellent job of holding the wind screen…another item which is a desired taste, but great from a drivers perspective! 😊
@@CharltonsClassics 👍