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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2023
- Vive la France.
Vɐvɤ̞̃ χ̓ɤ Ðlͬɤɕͬkx̓ɤ̞̃.
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Attention! After much delay, I bring you the grammar and vocabulary of Douleur! Use its power (un)wisely.
Link: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OVDVfHZJbi9X_Rbu5UD--MKC7ltU-Th_WDSdy5u7s2E/edit?usp=sharing
i'd love to learn more about the country of doul. what made them and their language this way
Hi, I've noticed in my effort to translate a certain text into this language (I will share the result as soon as I'm done) there is a mistake in the arcticles chart: Ultrafemenine gender is written twice, while Other gender can't be found. I guess the second Ultrafemenine is equivalent to Other and it is just an erratum, but I wanted you to know.
Edit: I've also noticed there are to letter "p", one for the sound /s/ and another one for the sound /ʑ’/. Is that meant to be like that? Because that's cursed as heck but I don't know how to treat each P.
Oh thank you!
@@fernit0505 1st thing: Well I guess that's unfortunate. Yes, the second UF is Other.
2nd thing: Yeah that was definitely intentional 110% no mistakes here.
Pain? Suffering? That's literally what "douleur" means in French! No WONDER your viewers are calling it "Ultrafrench"!
True fact: the average native speaker of Douleur has had seven uvula replacements by the age of ten.
I meant to drop in that most native speaker were fluent by the age of sixty-five, but that joke just got lost somewhere.
This is probably the language that Gollum would have spoken if his native language were French.
shoutouts to me for giving the 65th like to this comment 😏@@stephenkramer7157
you’ve invented ultrafrench
Nah that was Agma Schwa's job... this is Lͬaͬ Fͬrͬaͬnͬcͬeͬ pͬlͬuͬsͬ uͬlͬtͬrͬaͬ.
It’s the ultimate form of cursedlangs
This is ultraultrafrench bro
GOD IS DEAD
HELL IS FULL
Douleur is actually more phonetic like Spanish/Romanian. It's orthography just makes much less sense. 3:23 is the example I'm giving you.
I love that the language is spoken by wailing in abject pain, and that all grammatical rules perfectly resonate to produce french when reciting the bee movie script, quickly devolving into keyboard smash when translating anything else
the perfect punchline, I am still laughing
I was already pissing my pants when i read "l'aviation" but when I saw the actual romanization it all came together. You're a sick mind but nevertheless a genius one. You made something thought impossible: make french incomprehensible even to french speakers. I cannot stress enough how much work and intellect and mental illness are necessary. Thank you for your sacrifice. You scare and amuse me at the same time. This "conlang" is probably the most likely to be picked up by me. Good work!
Very confused about the punchline. Extremely impressive video but the writing being in french doesn’t do anything at the end. It’s just a translation as he even says the the conlang is ovs and french is svo. Am I missing something?
@@Bingoyamaguchi4 The passage is translated from English into Douleur, and the entire language was engineered such that the Douleur translation of this paragraph would appear identical to the French translation. The individual Douleur words, however, do not have the same meanings as their French homographs. For example, at one point the verb "fly" is translated into Douleur and is written as "l'abeille," which coincidentally looks exactly like the French word for "the bee."
Being French is it's own mental illness becausewhy would someone make such fucking hard language in the first place
Man don't even state the punchline throughout the entire video lmfao, props to you man.
Never thought would find a pvz content creator here😂, cheers!
@@Echor_Covos has always been into linguistics in the background, cursed conlang contest is where it peaks though.
If there ever be a third one, I'll make my own cursed conlang, that's for sure.
it is p for penis
I think this video would be even better if it ended right when the script did. Just a quiet French anthem and let people figure out the rest.
The French national anthem going on in the background while speaking douleur, I definitely feel the pain 😂😂😂
2^7th like
You feel the bread?
We should adopt this for universal language. Since the phonology is so bad, everyone will have equal difficulty in learning it!
😅😅😅😅 forget this idea 😅😅😅😅😅 this conlang serves to tragical and comical movies and series only 😅😅😅😅.
I agree with the phonology its so bad, that dismotivates a person to learn this conlang ALL Over the world .
Chaotic Evil Esperanto
@@Nwk843french keyboard syndrome
Why did I read this in either a posh villain British accent or Doofenshmirtz-esque German accent?
Behold! The unesperant-inator
@@NetherTaker *Chaotic good
The fact that there's an 'insectile' gender but no, bees have to be piratical...just brilliant
IM IN A HOLE TOO DEEP
I ONLY LEARNED ABOUT CURSED CONLANG *2 DAYS* AGO -AND I CANNOT STOP-
This shook me all the way up😂 Great work!
I'm in the same situation. RIP my RUclips feed.
That's how linguists reproduce: they infect you with conlang brainrot, and you make more of it yourself 😂
@@Monoryable Haha, why is that so accurate 😂
I begun trying to make a private language so nobody will understand, now I can freely read my language in IPA, know words I never imagined I could know, in the process of watching entirety of Crash Course Linguistics, hoping Xidnaf will return and occasionally trying to learn Esperanto and other conlangs for fun myself.
same
I hear you adding a thrill to some sounds when speaking actual english and I can't tell if it's your dialect or brainrot from making douleur
Absolutely brainrot.
This whole thing is funny, but the punchline of written Douleur just being French is... it feels impossible. How did you do that.
I started with the French and built the conlang around it. The system of mutation came from an effort to make the three different words for bee fit in context. I should stress that this paragraph is the only thing in the whole language that is identical to French in its orthography.
@@stephenkramer7157its like the "overfittiong" that happens when ai is trained on a specific kind of data and when confronted with sufficiently different data, the results the neural network spits out is nonsence
@@stephenkramer7157 now that's dedication :=)
@@stephenkramer7157 "this paragraph is the only thing in the whole language that is identical to French" -- Is that a theorem, or a conjecture?
@@renerpho Conjecture, it's not really feasible to list out every possible sentence and check if its French equivalent is the same. It's a very reasonable conjecture, but a conjecture nonetheless.
This is so good, I absolutely love the idea of being able to express that something is a green pirate in the way that everyone acknowledges my level of masculinity. So convenient!!
Please remind me to never get in an autism-off with you. This is the most terrifying and impressive thing I have seen in a long while.
My adhd might be able to compete. Let me grab extreme-Latin that uses a modified (albeit still extremely cursed) Thai orthography real quick.
@@nsr-intsI am scared now, please elaborate
@@wilyriley_ quite simple, really. Thai but it's a synthetic/polysynthetic language.
@@nsr-intspost it
Encore meilleure que l'accent québécois.
Je ne sais pourquoi, mais en tant que Québécois, je trouvais ça jolie comme langue, et assez intuitif aussi.
And most certainly better than French!
Eille
BAHAHAHAHHA en tant que québécois, j'ai tant ri 🤣
Silence, eur*péen
This was so worth it.
This is the first ccc entry what literally made me laugh, I literally can’t stop laughing right now💀💀💀
I never want you to feel like you're obligated to make another RUclips video, cuz you've already made the best one. But I subscribed on principle.
The video is doing well enough (notwithstanding that I'm riding on the back of an established creator) that I might actually try to do the RUclips thing. We will see.
This gives me the same feeling as the 1812 Overture does, a swirling buildup with just enough foreshadowing culminating in a magnificent conclusion.
The final slideshow gives the same effect as the cannons.
Those sounds are called "strident", they are produced with an epiglottal trill instead of vibrating vocal cords. They are written with a double tilde under the letter and are phonemic in Taa.
If they appeared anywhere it would be in Taa. That being said, I've already hear a couple of interpretations of those sounds. I'm curious what conclusion Agma and his discord will come to.
@@stephenkramer7157 Taa is pretty much as cursed as natural languages get from a phonology point of view (:
Aren't they phonemic in a bunch of other languages as well? Also, isn't "epiglottal" considered obsolete and replaced by "laryngeal" in modern linguistics?
@@pojnacoviceaproductions514 Maybe it's artificially cursed though. I see a lot of weird ideas attributed to !Xoon all the time but it's rarely grounded in actual research. Clicks and long ejective clusters are already weird enough as it is.
Of course it had to be phonemic in ǃXóõ 🙄🙄
La traduction de la fin m'a tué 🤣Par contre quel boulot pour arriver à ce résultat ! Chapeau !
Eng: The end translation had me going crazy! How massive of a work is it to come to this result tough! Congrats!
Trilled fricatives actually exist in Czech, specifically the trilled voiced post alveolar fricative, written as ř. I don't know if this a correct phonetic description but that's what it sounds like to my ear.
Trilled vowels however are a novel idea. I can see why they're not used in natural languages. 😂
I think the difference with the famous Czech sound is that the trilling/flapping there is part of its primary manner of articulation, while Douleur’s is a coarticulation.
Oh hey, trilled vowels!
One of the conlangs (not actually cursed) I'm working on has them.
"Gender system for verbs"
You mean conjugations? 😛
"Verbs take marker from the clause's subject's color"
GRAMMATICAL RACISM, BABY!!!
This is definitely one of my favorite submissions I've seen so far - some good creativity here. I'm sure the language's name resembling "dolor", the Latin word for "pain", is pure coincidence.
It’s French, same meaning
r/woosh
Well, in some languages verbs conjugate differently for male and female nouns, in Slavic languages for example. "Я ел/Ya yel" = "I ate (said by a male speaker)", but "я ела/ya yela" = "I ate (said by a female speaker)"...
@@vahonenko Yes, I know - that's not what was meant in this context, pretty sure. My own conlang does gender inflection in all persons on verbs.
Really underappreciated cursed detail being that this language needs to specify Cyan, but not blue/green xD
um, excuse me professor? I think I'm in the wrong class?
Professor Kramer:
- And how would that be said in Douleur? Without insulting your classmate's bookshelf this time, please.
6:45 genuinely made me start cry laughing, it absolutely caught me off guard oml
Made me do a spit take for sure
i cant believe youre able to say that so fluently how
Torment.
3:51 "The ‹n› letter makes the sound /ɕͬ/, and here we have the /n/ sound being made by an apostrophe of all things"
Truly one of the most cursed cloŋs ever
A beauty of a creation, hats off to you good sir
I was caught off guard every time you said the name of the language and it was funnier every time
this had burst out laghing to tears as soon as the final slideshow started. amazing work mate
you know, colour classes are actually a really interesting idea for a xenolang of some kind, whether for space aliens or fantasy creatures. maybe some kind of fey?
Indeed
what's always funny in the cursed conlangs is that some part of them are genuinely fun ideas
this is almost as cursed as french.
"Babe wake up, French 2 just dropped"
magnificent display of conlanging talent ! Great job ! this conlang gets an A plus in conlang creativity
Bro, I have literally no idea what the weird as-though trilled velar is, and YET I can produce that sound so very easily, but I CAN NOT Identify WHERE and WHAT it could be in the IPA.
My best guess is that it's a highly protracted uvular co-lingual trill, where the very BACK of the tongue is soft and TRILLING against EITHER the Uvula OR the Velum, which the very backmost in my mouth, the Velum, right before the Uvula, is soft...
My feelings exactly. I was hoping Agma would tell me what in the name of God the sound I'm making actually is.
yes, bees are of the piratical gender, that makes perfect sense
I watched this in class and I had to constantly stifle my laughter because I was supposed to be taking a test. I don’t know how ANYONE can come up with something like this. It takes a special form of talent to make something this abysmal. I envy your persistence and wish you well on future endeavors. Amazing video.
I wish I could like this video multiple times
Thank you.
omgs, uvular-trill-ized vowels! i've used those in a conlang before, i love them
Douleur is all I feel.
Congratulations.
It's like a fax machine with a head cold trying to speak Hebrew.
thank you for sharing this video, Tom Scott
This is what French sounds like if someone who never studied French described it to you.
😂😂😂😂 Bro ya saved my day thanks i laugh so much, this conlang its a colangs for painfull people sick people, that can learn french 😅😅😅😅
Trilled vowels with trilled consonants holy shit,man its hard to say you created the perfect conlang for comedies' and tragedies' movies and series.
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Nasty creative phøcking creation 😅😅😅😅😅😅
I felt quite a lot of douleur already 1 minute in i don't think can sit through this all at once.
seagull language
edit: further along in the video now. the seagulls are terribly advanced and I am scared
fier de souffrir ✊
Salutations from a Tom Scott mailing list follower
What exactly is the relevance of Tom Scott's mailing list?
@@stephenkramer7157 Tom Scott's weekly newsletter is mostly a collection of recommended links, and this is one of them today! I'm very glad I came here this was hilarious.
@@stephenkramer7157 He also claims Conlangs are a waste of time, but we can let that slide.
@@stephenkramer7157 the mailing list sends a few video recommendations that Tom found interesting. Looks like this one caught his eye!
@@stephenkramer7157 Tom Scott called this video out as something cool to watch on his weekly mailing list! nice work :)
ah, thanks so much, you've accounted for the rare cases in which someone non-masculine is speaking! i feel very included /j /pos
Almost a year later and I'm still in awe of this beautiful monstrosity and the fact that you built it BACKWARDS.
I want to hear a sermon in it….including the entire Gospel of John.
this video cured my depryershiôn thank you
This gave a great idea for an infimal or surreal number, for all things that are infinitely close to but not zero.
WHAT MADNESS IS THIS?!? How do you come up with, much less execute, the idea of a conlang with infinite trills who's orthography corresponds *exactly* to the French bee movie script without giving any indication it does so? You utterly brilliant bastard. Even before the punchline, I burst out laughing every time your normal smooth English was interrupted by the hellish growl of you pronouncing the language name. I haven't smiled so hard in years.
Even if it only takes you 5 seconds on average to come up with an article and you work 15 hour work days, that's still 13 days of work to make that insane excel spreadsheet. Are you OK? Do you need a hug?
Don't worry. Agma's video on how few phonemes a language can have showcased a web app for autogenerating words base on custom phonotactics. The hard part was getting excel to populate the bloody spreadsheet once I imported the words.
I.... you had me in the first half ain't gonna lie lmfao wow, a whole secondary pronunciation of Franch.
OMG. I've watched this so many times, and I only just now noticed that you chose Quotative Ultramasculine for the sample text (I assume that's what QUM in the gloss stands for).
what if a country just south of England spoke this
Oh God no. no no. no
we call them france
a country just south of england? would be nice to see that sea that separates iberia from the rest of europe filled
hmmm Jersey?
OMG, the conjugation is so cursed. It's like polypersonal agreement without any of the benefits of polypersonal agreement
Edit: I would find ot strange that adjectives, adpositions, etc. don't inflect for anything, because these usually are derived from verbs or nouns
I can't stop thinking about this. Douleur has ruined me. If this has destroyed my mind in ways unknown to mankind, and it has, I am so so sorry for what you went through while making this. Thank you for your sacrifice, because this is the funniest shit I've ever seen. A language to surpass Kay(f)bop(t).
I laughed my ass off the entire time, excellent density of jokes and sincerity
great job on producing so many uvular trills so well. I've always had a hell of a time producing them neatly, so this would really be a hell language for me lol, but have found that brushing my teeth helps, weirdly enough. Basically the glycerin in toothpaste thickens your saliva and as gross as that sounds, it aids in producing uvular trills lol
As a hopefully interesting aside, some dialects of German also have do-support. Pennsylvania Dutch, a German dialect name notwithstanding, for example has do-support. The use of it is rather interesting as it's been influenced by English over the years, so much so that there's a dialectal split based on religion. Anabaptist groups for all their conservative nature actually have a dialect much more influenced by English and largely use their do-support in the same ways English does, though still not exactly the same.
Non Anabaptist groups (the Pa Dutch nobody seems to actually know about lol) however use their do-support more as a kind of emphatic continuous form. In this sense it's a bit of the opposite of what one might expect from English. In English "I do swim" means that swimming is a thing I (habitually) do, while the cognate sentence in Pa Dutch 'ich duh schwimme' instead means rather that I am in fact swimming right this moment, which could be similarly expressed in English via "I AM swimming" i.e. by stressing the auxiliary verb
how did you come up with a romanisation that is just the french translation of the original sentence.
I glossed the sentence, assigned each French word a meaning based on the gloss, and then created the mutation system to justify the fact that there were three completely different words for "bee". Hence why it was a conlang built backwards.
I have watched several horrors, Tarantino's movies and this sort of thing, but I have never seen anything so terrifying.
I-cant-eat-rice
@@FlagAnthem Rice is nice, eat it twice
I think this might be the funniest submission of all. I was ready to go to sleep and now can't stop randomly laughing
I got drawn in more and more intensely as it went and you gradually lost your grip. You are an extremely devious and unclean linguist. And the climax absolutely rocks.
Outfrenched ultrafrench
😅😅😅😅
I can only do a bilabial trill and damn this is so impressive to me.
Gives off danish vibes.
Danish moment.
that's offensive to this conlang
Imagine if you will, four hours into nguh’s second stream, the second to last language of the day. He thought he saw everything, then he gets jump scared by FRENCH!!
I'm glad the ^w^ conlang video led me into this terrible, terrible rabbit hole.
These have been a delight to watch.
This kept me entertained as I worked and that in and of itself is a feat and a half. Bravo.
I don't get it. This is just normal French.
This might be the funniest, most insane thing I have seen all year. I am in literal pain from laughing at that resolution.
I love the phonology of this language! Imagine faces of people around you when you are in a bus, your phone rings, and you go like: 18:35
Thanks for the tutorial on how to make a bird conlang.
I'm "new" to conlanging and this is still fucking brainrotting lol, great job mate
As we say here, chapeau bas.
this is one of the funniest videos i've ever seen
I love that its just French but make it insect pirates
Edit: I suspected something was up from the name alone but then I saw "l'aviation" and just fucking new from the bottom of my heart the entire purpose of this video I love it. XD
Going backwards into French isnt easier or less painful than going headfirst
sounds like hyperpirate+ultrafrench lol
This scans like something from the mind of douglas adams. bravo.
I’m so stoned and I can’t even make it like a fifth of the way through this it’s making me laugh so hard that every two seconds I have to pause the video so I can regain my composure
As a Dutch speaker, this seems easy enough
I love how even you seem to be surprised by this language‘s cursedness while talking about it
My wife just walked in on me asking why I'm listening to dinosaurs mating
wookie + Klingon is this monstrosity
Autocaptions are good, but also add some custom captions for Douleur. Good luck! Great video! (Make sure the custom captions don't overwrite the english ones though!)
This sounds like the language of wookies.
this conlang is still easier to learn then french
honestly given that the language of the speaker causes mutation, imagine someone coming out as trans by speaking a different mutation of the language
Fusional ithkuil be like
I can't but simply laugh as a child😂😂😂
2:50 - 2:57 had me absolutely dead
I almost cried this was so fantastic.
This is the frenchiest thing ever. It's frenchier than baguette and croissant. It's frenchier than barricades and burning vehicles.
Congratulations on the honorable mention, Stephen!!!
I've been playing too much Hollow Knight lately, because my first thought on hearing this was "Cool, it's Leg Eater's native language!"
my brother told me about this comment while I was watching a video related to Hollow Knight. I had to open up the game just to find out you're absolutely correct.
18:49 Hnukk, eu-ahhhhxkhxkh! 😩
Hey fun fact: in Nguh's video announcing CCC3 he showed a screenshot of Tom Scott talking about some videos he saw from CCC2 and he specifically mentioned yours as one he saw. So I guess Tom Scott is aware of your beautiful French^3.