So i guess it depends on your fight style, but you dont always have to sidestep for a roundkick, like getting up on ball of your foot and rotating can generate just as much force, plus its usually faster. But it is good to step offline, but its not necessarily "the right way to kick"
The ways he’s doing generally has better balance. It’s a good way to kick to counter a kick with a kick. For example if you throw a high kick with the technique you described someone could step out to an angle and kick your supporting leg. It’s a counter Ramon Dekkers did all the time.
The guy literally shows one way of kicking as his demo and then does it full speed and does something different. When he’s showing the audience what to do he doesn’t pivot, when he does a live kick, he pivots.
Basically try to make space between ur legs . If ur legs are kinda tight the kick wont release from ur waist and then the kick will be weaker and u may injure your self
I reckon it depends on the style. I've got more than one coach, one who has a Muay Thai background, he teaches to step before the kick to open up the hips. The other coach is a K1 Kickboxer and she teaches to pivot on your foot without stepping. Personally I prefer stepping before the kick, I feel it's easier to keep balance and I get more power out of it, but I've had success with both variations.
I want to try out a fighting class, never taken one before. I’m thinking about either kickboxing or Muay Thai, I’ve developed strong legs through over a decade of skateboarding and I’d like to try out a fighting style that allows legs
Muay Thai is a great martial art for you then! I would’ve personally also recommended TKD as I did both, but as a skater myself I found the expression you can experience during Muay Thai sparring far more rewarding. You can really feel your progress and try new things whereas you hardly ever spar in TKD.
@@1chaka awesome, thanks for the feedback. I’m definitely looking into something that is more striker oriented, I have good flexibility and have already since taken a couple kickboxing classes, but I might try out Muay Thai as well, I’ve looked in to that and it looks very effective
Shane from fighttips shows how stepping inside rather then outside can prevent you from getting checked. He did say the stepping outside is better for body and head kicks though
@@ninja_wolfofficial physics. Look up rotational inertia. If you step in the direction of the kick, yeah, you do get power because your entire body travels with the kick into the target. However, if you interpret the roundhouse as more of a rotational movement than a "traveling" one (with a step), then the pivot points (ball of foot+ hip) of your "torque arm" (kicking leg) are brought closer together and increase the speed of the kicking leg. Both versions deliver about the same amount of power for the same person, but removing the step takes away the telegraphing factor, making it more useful as a way to quickly attack the lower body and legs.
@@Batman-od9zv I understand what you're saying around house without a step is totally doable and faster. I was just commenting because somebody said step inside . Maybe I'm just having a hard time putting his words into a picture. I'm sure that's what it is
I do a round house with my knee as high as I can flex then I rotate my left foot at the same time I rotate my hips and do a quick chopping action so people don't grab my foot. I really like the front and side kick because kick boxers keep closing the distance like a zombie; it is soooo scary!
Might work on ur average untrained fighter, but i see u switch u feet up after the 1st kick and now ik i got a good seccond to see it, move, and have a counter ready. The side step is good once in a while to throw rhythm off, but if u side step before every kick its just wayy too easy to see coming
You're also not rotating down and into the kick which cuts your power quite a bit. If you're telegraphing that much with the step, you want every bit of power you can het cuz speed isn't in the cards
For those eho dont get it: In the first clip he uses his non kicking foot to step closer to his kicking leg, and then he shows that you should instead step away from your kicking leg.
both are right. you can get a better angle around the check if you do an inward skip step. and the step to the outside is obviously for creating more power. but remember the rule of thumb for most scenarios: #noSingleKicks. unless youre an expert at kicking and can judge the opportunities almost flawlessly.
Neutral foot rotation and body twisting generate much power if you add that to mobility, they are the only advantages that taekwondo has compared to kick-boxing and muaythaï, but both are way more complete and more efficient fighting sport than taekwondo….
Facts. I took TKD just last year to finally get it under my experience belt and I was not surprised but I also wasn't happy with it. It's all fancy, inside generated snap kicks. The fact the whole system relies on keeping the knees inside and close together and keeping such a narrow stance, makes it weak and predictable. Their foot movement and how they open their pathway, gives the kick away before it comes at me. Just a month in TKD and I was reading everyone like a book in sparring sessions. I already know what they're doing because I also learned it, but this was years after I'd already been doing American kickboxing, Muay Thai, Yoshukai Karate, Kenpo (Ed Parker's), Aikido and some Wing Chun so I had a lot of advantages anyways. I just don't find the style complete or practical at all.
@@AverageGabriel if you’re reading people that just means they’re just inexperienced. 😂 most people at national level fighting have tactics to hide what kick they do, mix it up well and catch you off guard
@@solar999 that's the problem I have. My area doesn't have any good fighters for me to train with nor does my area have any fighting academy that works professionally. All the places around me are mere fitness cozy centers with no licensing abilities for amateur or pro fighters.
Edson Barboza would like a word. He throws kicks without telegraph as long as you have proper technique and snap the first way you displayed works better.
The shin shluld still be more flush. The shin should hit direct not at 45 degree angle. The foot pivot was right though and you only hand down for balanc bring back to fave right away to block punches kicks to face. A lot of mma fighters like mid range guard hands chest level. I will say though hugh guard works better for most but not everyone
I guess you mean the mistake is havving support leg flat footed and pointing forward. You can kick like that as long as you DON'T rotate as a speed and no power kick (bazooka kick) to set up other kicks or punches. Because yes, your power kicks, especially middle and low, should be always set up with punches, faster snap kicks or feints.
@@apollo900 Dunno. I dont practice. But as soon as i have my bag hung somewhere I'll give it a try. As with everything it does exist proper technique indeed. Then one may try to find their own way
What about the second foot rotation? You're rotating to plant, but theres no rotation on the follow through, leaving a lot of potential power on the table.
Look again. The first kick he stepped to the left of the bag then threw a left kick. Yiu can see how off balanced it put him and it causes the kick to actually have to travel further and it loses power by the time you get to the target. No power and if you gave him a little push or kick he's going down or flying lol
set it up with punches or by changing the level of the kick. you can also sweep out their supporting leg instead of aiming for the leg if they check high.
Just a suggestion. This video could be improved by leaving the bag out and facing the camera while throwing the technique. The rope is a great idea as it shows the lateral movement and stance width. The bag provides no information other than hitting strength which the video is not about anyway. You can't see depth when you are sideways to the camera angle (the old two-dimension thing of pictures).
For this kick became a Muay-thai kick, the supporting foot must rotate. No negotiation or “fighting style” bullshit. Muay-thai is Muay-thai. Why is that? Several reasons. Research before misleading people.
So he's turning his heel on the leg in the front so he can twist his hips to generate more force. It is one way to kick but implying this must be done with all kicks simply limits oneself.
If your toes on your standing foot are pointing forwards then you can't get your hip through the target and just tap them, point your toes past the target to generate more momentum and gain more power 😉👍🏻 My daughter was being kicked by a boy in primary school, I taught her this and funnily enough.....he stopped!!
Your lead leg is not controlled. Too far away. Need to rotate on the balls of your foot or if doing a quick kick foot shouldn't get scrunched in lol Idk if you actually fight but I have and some of these social media fight gurus are ridiculous
...even better when you turn ypur hips *FULLY* over...and don’t actually execute a half TKD-style roundhouse with a snap, rolled into a semi Thai-style fully-driven roundhouse with 90• pivot! 🤷♂️🤣🙏 ...someone did karate/TKD a lonnnng time before ever learning The Art of 8 Limbs... ...I mean, I could be wrong. But I don’t think I am 🙃
So when I kick does the top of my feet touch the bag. My trainer says on a punching bag it does. So i always hit like that. After training today the top of my whole feet is bruised.
Who's training you?? Professional fighters kick the heavy bag with their shins. Never the feet. That can cause serious injury and if your feet are bruised after hitting the bag he's not teaching you the correct way to hit the bag.
@@gregorymartinez1422 I don’t necessarily hit it with my foot but with the lower part of my shins, so my feet also touch the bag. I’ve trained my kicks many times never had really alot of bruises since recently the whole top of my feet was bruised.
None of the kicks seen in this video are done correctly. Super stiff, flat footed and off balance. The guys upper body leans away from the pivot foot, as he kicks. Swinging your arms that much before a kick shows that your going to kick and shows you're going to be throwing a low kick also. And his form is terrible.
Nice job showing the differences! In case any super new kickboxing viewers didn't catch it all. First clip (X) Legs crossed (no foundation) during transition to outside, kick comes too late. Arm swung down aimlessly behind the kick. Other hand not guarding side of head for counters. Second Clip (✓) Stayed inside, keeping squared to opponent and kicked outside. Arm makes a deflecting motion with the kick to guard counters Side of head is protected with other hand.
Can't see what's being done wrong when you're faced away from the camera and have a giant red X over the screen
Look at his feet
Just step into the kick instead of against it
he says to fully pivot your foot
Cause you clearly never thrown a kick before. It's easy to see.
@@HolisticPrespectiveisnt that why they're here?
Best practice for all roundhouse kicks is to turn your standing foot more
So i guess it depends on your fight style, but you dont always have to sidestep for a roundkick, like getting up on ball of your foot and rotating can generate just as much force, plus its usually faster. But it is good to step offline, but its not necessarily "the right way to kick"
Right. It's just one way of kicking for the right situations it best applies. As with any punch or kick.
Yeah true, you can step if you have time and you wanna hurt but you should be able to kick without stepping.
The ways he’s doing generally has better balance. It’s a good way to kick to counter a kick with a kick. For example if you throw a high kick with the technique you described someone could step out to an angle and kick your supporting leg. It’s a counter Ramon Dekkers did all the time.
And turn on your front foot
The guy literally shows one way of kicking as his demo and then does it full speed and does something different. When he’s showing the audience what to do he doesn’t pivot, when he does a live kick, he pivots.
Telegraphing the fuck out of that round house
U shud set it up it, bcuz its the only to hit with heavy power, unless your fast while still generating heavy power
The fuck you talking about?
#nosinglekicks meaning kicks must be setup with feints, jabs, other punches, etc etc
@@AsapBensin-rx2jsWell yeah if the other guy trains don’t single kick but If he don’t you’re good 😂
Taking that step first sometimes is telegraphing when you’re winded and start to slack on explosiveness
Power comes from the hips
True but that’s by design. It’s a Dutch kick that traded power for speed and compatibility with a boxer’s stance.
Lol I thought this was fighttips till he turned around
The angle of the kicking leg + Pivot of the supporting leg 😮. Was looking for it. Thanks brother!
How to telegraph a kick more like it...
I have no idea what your are showing here. Thanks for making it more confusing!
Basically try to make space between ur legs . If ur legs are kinda tight the kick wont release from ur waist and then the kick will be weaker and u may injure your self
I reckon it depends on the style. I've got more than one coach, one who has a Muay Thai background, he teaches to step before the kick to open up the hips. The other coach is a K1 Kickboxer and she teaches to pivot on your foot without stepping. Personally I prefer stepping before the kick, I feel it's easier to keep balance and I get more power out of it, but I've had success with both variations.
I want to try out a fighting class, never taken one before. I’m thinking about either kickboxing or Muay Thai, I’ve developed strong legs through over a decade of skateboarding and I’d like to try out a fighting style that allows legs
Muay Thai is a great martial art for you then! I would’ve personally also recommended TKD as I did both, but as a skater myself I found the expression you can experience during Muay Thai sparring far more rewarding. You can really feel your progress and try new things whereas you hardly ever spar in TKD.
@@1chaka awesome, thanks for the feedback. I’m definitely looking into something that is more striker oriented, I have good flexibility and have already since taken a couple kickboxing classes, but I might try out Muay Thai as well, I’ve looked in to that and it looks very effective
I've been practicing kicks for half a year but my left foot can't determine the direction of the kick at all
you can actually take a step to the inside, (so that youre outside and can avoid a check) i think liam harrison does it quite often
I need one of those bags!🔥
I try to eliminate the cheat step unless I really need the extra power but I’m glad I’m past these mistakes
Shane from fighttips shows how stepping inside rather then outside can prevent you from getting checked. He did say the stepping outside is better for body and head kicks though
How are you going to generate power stepping inside in the opposite direction of the kick
@@ninja_wolfofficial physics. Look up rotational inertia. If you step in the direction of the kick, yeah, you do get power because your entire body travels with the kick into the target. However, if you interpret the roundhouse as more of a rotational movement than a "traveling" one (with a step), then the pivot points (ball of foot+ hip) of your "torque arm" (kicking leg) are brought closer together and increase the speed of the kicking leg. Both versions deliver about the same amount of power for the same person, but removing the step takes away the telegraphing factor, making it more useful as a way to quickly attack the lower body and legs.
@@Batman-od9zv I understand what you're saying around house without a step is totally doable and faster. I was just commenting because somebody said step inside . Maybe I'm just having a hard time putting his words into a picture. I'm sure that's what it is
I do a round house with my knee as high as I can flex then I rotate my left foot at the same time I rotate my hips and do a quick chopping action so people don't grab my foot. I really like the front and side kick because kick boxers keep closing the distance like a zombie; it is soooo scary!
Your not kicking entirely right either mate
He isn’t but hey it’s RUclips and anyone can upload anything and pretend they fully know what they are doing 🤣
In muay thai, it's a diagonal kick and he is doing it right
The cord was so helpful thanks
I just discovered this in today's training and youtube recommended this short the same day, these algorithms are scary
I like to pivot the supporting foot... the extra power goes a long way
take your guard man! while kicking
Ngl, thought this was UnspeakablePlays for a moment😂
just figure this out, Jr?
Might work on ur average untrained fighter, but i see u switch u feet up after the 1st kick and now ik i got a good seccond to see it, move, and have a counter ready. The side step is good once in a while to throw rhythm off, but if u side step before every kick its just wayy too easy to see coming
If you’re throwing kicks like the first couple you’re still below an amateur so it’s still solid
Do what works for you everyone and if it is effective then stick to it
You're also not rotating down and into the kick which cuts your power quite a bit. If you're telegraphing that much with the step, you want every bit of power you can het cuz speed isn't in the cards
You’re insane. This made me kicks almost 2-1/2 times harder 😂🎉
Ok is this the atlas earth ad but an instrumental?
Is that 6 feet heavy punching bag or 5 feet
For those eho dont get it: In the first clip he uses his non kicking foot to step closer to his kicking leg, and then he shows that you should instead step away from your kicking leg.
both are right. you can get a better angle around the check if you do an inward skip step. and the step to the outside is obviously for creating more power. but remember the rule of thumb for most scenarios: #noSingleKicks. unless youre an expert at kicking and can judge the opportunities almost flawlessly.
Neutral foot rotation and body twisting generate much power if you add that to mobility, they are the only advantages that taekwondo has compared to kick-boxing and muaythaï, but both are way more complete and more efficient fighting sport than taekwondo….
Facts. I took TKD just last year to finally get it under my experience belt and I was not surprised but I also wasn't happy with it.
It's all fancy, inside generated snap kicks.
The fact the whole system relies on keeping the knees inside and close together and keeping such a narrow stance, makes it weak and predictable.
Their foot movement and how they open their pathway, gives the kick away before it comes at me.
Just a month in TKD and I was reading everyone like a book in sparring sessions.
I already know what they're doing because I also learned it, but this was years after I'd already been doing American kickboxing, Muay Thai, Yoshukai Karate, Kenpo (Ed Parker's), Aikido and some Wing Chun so I had a lot of advantages anyways.
I just don't find the style complete or practical at all.
@@AverageGabriel if you’re reading people that just means they’re just inexperienced. 😂
most people at national level fighting have tactics to hide what kick they do, mix it up well and catch you off guard
@@solar999 that's the problem I have. My area doesn't have any good fighters for me to train with nor does my area have any fighting academy that works professionally. All the places around me are mere fitness cozy centers with no licensing abilities for amateur or pro fighters.
Very correct
You got a sub
Thank you
l love kickboxing
Edson Barboza would like a word.
He throws kicks without telegraph as long as you have proper technique and snap the first way you displayed works better.
But i can't that hight up! 😢
Thanks
The shin shluld still be more flush. The shin should hit direct not at 45 degree angle. The foot pivot was right though and you only hand down for balanc bring back to fave right away to block punches kicks to face. A lot of mma fighters like mid range guard hands chest level. I will say though hugh guard works better for most but not everyone
keep on practice with it just have get to used to it okay
I guess you mean the mistake is havving support leg flat footed and pointing forward. You can kick like that as long as you DON'T rotate as a speed and no power kick (bazooka kick) to set up other kicks or punches.
Because yes, your power kicks, especially middle and low, should be always set up with punches, faster snap kicks or feints.
Dude didn't even lift his pivoting foot
Nah fr tho😂
Nobody does
@@claudiomargheri2087 I'm being taught to lift my dam foot 😑 pivoting is hard AF
@@apollo900
Dunno. I dont practice. But as soon as i have my bag hung somewhere I'll give it a try. As with everything it does exist proper technique indeed. Then one may try to find their own way
@@claudiomargheri2087that's how you generate the snap also lifting that foot gives you another few inches of height
it’s all about style some would say that’s wasted movement
I have a question: am I supposed to pome out my toe or tucking it in?🙏🏽
What about the second foot rotation? You're rotating to plant, but theres no rotation on the follow through, leaving a lot of potential power on the table.
Self wrong minus kick
In the first kick he literally did the same exact thing as the last two. He side stepped then kicked...
Look again. The first kick he stepped to the left of the bag then threw a left kick. Yiu can see how off balanced it put him and it causes the kick to actually have to travel further and it loses power by the time you get to the target. No power and if you gave him a little push or kick he's going down or flying lol
Bag circumference and height?
This isn’t a kicking problem, it’s a distance problem. There’s no difference in the kicks, just get closer...
Don't be flat footed
Yes let’s telegraph
set it up with punches or by changing the level of the kick. you can also sweep out their supporting leg instead of aiming for the leg if they check high.
Just a suggestion. This video could be improved by leaving the bag out and facing the camera while throwing the technique. The rope is a great idea as it shows the lateral movement and stance width. The bag provides no information other than hitting strength which the video is not about anyway. You can't see depth when you are sideways to the camera angle (the old two-dimension thing of pictures).
Great suggestion!
For this kick became a Muay-thai kick, the supporting foot must rotate.
No negotiation or “fighting style” bullshit.
Muay-thai is Muay-thai.
Why is that?
Several reasons. Research before misleading people.
Where can I buy the same tshirt and shorts
Just kicking the right way would be more helpful. Just got my bag and i'm trying to get the basics in my head before i start.
Its all about the snap and rotations ngl
This comment section is full of "experts".
A good fighter will telegraph their striking
Greetings where can I buy that bag
So telegraph?
So he's turning his heel on the leg in the front so he can twist his hips to generate more force. It is one way to kick but implying this must be done with all kicks simply limits oneself.
The stutter steps is what's wrong?
Maybe use Punches Instead
I’m confused. What’s the difference?
Stepping to the outside of the bag vs the inside.
If your toes on your standing foot are pointing forwards then you can't get your hip through the target and just tap them, point your toes past the target to generate more momentum and gain more power 😉👍🏻
My daughter was being kicked by a boy in primary school, I taught her this and funnily enough.....he stopped!!
🎉😮😮😮
This guy doesn't do muaythai kick. If he is attempting to kick muaythai, he needs to eliminate several faults.
I believe this is the Dutch kick, used typically in Kickboxing and common in MMA. This kick is supposed to fit better with a more blade boxing stance.
Bro showing this needs to pivot on his base foot more don't want to destroy your knee
Your knee should come up first before you kick. I think it's you that needs a tutorial, you lose all your power swinging upward.
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wow
Twist hips and foot🤔?
This is just telegraph city
Do u kick with ur shin or foot
No guard bro 👊 what is your counter balance arm doing 👎
Dusty lumber co?
Never do this That just gives out your kick your doing so they know what your gonna do trust me it’s coming from a karate fighter.
Have to be aware of not telegraphing your kick before you actually do it too
hmm that dont look like teakwondo... that kicks he shows are snap kicks and he dont lift his knee, he just kick like in soccoer?
Where is your guard?
those are some soft kicks ending em half way if u ask me
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Step to The Outside
Показывальщик,сам на ногах еле стоит😂
That switch is way too big. Unless you're exaggerating for the demo?
bro you can’t have text or voice over?
Your lead leg is not controlled. Too far away. Need to rotate on the balls of your foot or if doing a quick kick foot shouldn't get scrunched in lol
Idk if you actually fight but I have and some of these social media fight gurus are ridiculous
...even better when you turn ypur hips *FULLY* over...and don’t actually execute a half TKD-style roundhouse with a snap, rolled into a semi Thai-style fully-driven roundhouse with 90• pivot! 🤷♂️🤣🙏
...someone did karate/TKD a lonnnng time before ever learning The Art of 8 Limbs...
...I mean, I could be wrong. But I don’t think I am 🙃
So when I kick does the top of my feet touch the bag. My trainer says on a punching bag it does. So i always hit like that. After training today the top of my whole feet is bruised.
Who's training you?? Professional fighters kick the heavy bag with their shins. Never the feet. That can cause serious injury and if your feet are bruised after hitting the bag he's not teaching you the correct way to hit the bag.
@@gregorymartinez1422 I don’t necessarily hit it with my foot but with the lower part of my shins, so my feet also touch the bag. I’ve trained my kicks many times never had really alot of bruises since recently the whole top of my feet was bruised.
I don't understand.
Bag weight
Eso keesta asiendo esta mal la patada tiene kesalir como estés parado yake el otro oponente noteva adar tienpo para que teacomodes
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how is kicking with your foot and not your chin correct? wtf?
What even is the mistake?!
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nao deu pra entender nada
None of the kicks seen in this video are done correctly. Super stiff, flat footed and off balance. The guys upper body leans away from the pivot foot, as he kicks. Swinging your arms that much before a kick shows that your going to kick and shows you're going to be throwing a low kick also. And his form is terrible.
Wait aren’t you meant to be on your toes when kicking stay flat footed means you can’t really pivot your leg when kicking 🤷♂️
Yea exactly
Nice job showing the differences!
In case any super new kickboxing viewers didn't catch it all.
First clip (X)
Legs crossed (no foundation) during transition to outside, kick comes too late.
Arm swung down aimlessly behind the kick.
Other hand not guarding side of head for counters.
Second Clip (✓)
Stayed inside, keeping squared to opponent and kicked outside.
Arm makes a deflecting motion with the kick to guard counters
Side of head is protected with other hand.