Metal Refining & Recovery, Episode 25: Gold Playing Cards?
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- I see if I can recover gold from some gold coated playing cards.
Help me make videos by donating here: / codyslab
Follow me on Facebook: / codydonreeder
SubReddit: / codyslab
Time to make your own Gold playing card
probably out of pure 24k gold
"You can't just dissolve the cards because you're losing Cody!"
I thought cody was making his own playing card out of gold.
Austin Christmas Underrated comment👍😂
Austin Christmas or 16 k
Lol, I bought my pack from 7/11 for something like 5 dollars knowing full well they had no gold. They look great on the card table though!
Cody said the picture of the 100 dollar bill looked ugly right when I was thinking the same thing
Ugly is a understatement
Hey Old Ben might not be up to modern standards of beauty but he was quite the ladies man back in the day.
Is chinesium dude chinesium
Jason Pollywog really really ugly
@@frank_texas7400 Tf is Chinesium
Wonder if the 'Certificate of Authenticity" was the only card plated in gold...
Da Hai Zhu if he included that card in the x-ray test then no. But no way of knowing if he had it in the pack or not.
I did test that card and got the same negative result.
I was thinking the same.
Same for box?
I was immediately suspicious when it said "Laboratory Report" but didn't have the name of a specific laboratory. The report # is probably identical for each pack -- a quick way to spot fakes.
Edit: Just looked up some online and both the cheap ones and the $80 ones have photos showing the same report #. Makes me wonder if there was ever a legitimate product with this design.
nice video, and you exposed a fake company in the process. I hope someone uses your video to take action against that company if possible. its not right for them to be allowed to trick people into buying that crap even if it was cheap, they still think its real gold.
yup...
Probably a Chinese company, not much we can do about that. You should see some of the other fakes made in China.
They might be able to get away with it if there's an amount of gold in the cards so small it's basically undetectable, which I suspect they may have done.
Moreover, quite possibly an outright counterfeit. In this case, the name of the company printed on the cards is irrelevant since that company had nothing to do with it, and honestly they're just as upset if not more so about someone selling counterfeits of their products as we are about buying them.
Unfortunately, there's a pretty big problem with counterfeiting these sorts of products, especially if they're sold online, and yes, a lot of it is coming from China.
NewtSniper Contains at least 1 atom of 24 karot gold!
Which is probably true about every card deck ever made. If you consider that a deck of cards would have 10^21 to 10^22 atoms in it, well, that's a LOT of digits. I can't conceive of that amount of material not containing some small number of stray gold atoms as "impurities". Even what's almost certainly the most pure material known to mankind, chip grade silicon, is only pure out to 12 nines or so, meaning you have 10 digits left to work with, so if those impurities contain at least 1 part in 10 billion being gold, you would expect a deck of cards sized piece of chip grade silicon to contain at least one atom of gold.
EDIT: *SPOILER ALERT!* Sorry guys, didn't expect this to be at the top of the comments!
Well, if it's not gold, at least the cards look really nice, and now we know they're pretty dang resistant, so at least he can keep them for fun!
Plus, even though nothing was refined, this really was an interesting video to watch. It's always good to see how to know things aren't going right!
Although it's terrible to know that company straight-up lied, I hope people get in touch with them about fraudulency!
Micah Philson he could ask them for a labreport.
Micah Philson Most likely a Chinese company and notning will happen.
cool thanks mate don’t have to watch the rest of the video 👍
Spoiler alert 😭😭😭
Just fyi that hand-held xrf analyzer is like 40 grand. I want one. Those are sweet.
Dimension7 Damn, you could buy a Mercedes for that kind if money. Interesting how Cody bought that machine instead
I looked up that model on eBay and there are a few for sale in the 15-20k range (used). I would hope he paid more in that range than the MSRP. Still crazy expensive for something handheld though.
It's such a cool tool though Cody probably has had more fun with that than any car.
Don't drop it
Yeah, I'd love to have it, but tbh i would rather have his glassware collection first. Hirsch funnels, glass stills, ahhhh, i want it all
I still wouldn't mind throwing $10-15 at those fakes, if not for the stupid back.
William Shreckengost there are paper decks that sell for that price anyways. No need for the company to be shady about it when they already have a good product.
Its like, what were they thinking
There are other ones with different backs. I got a set that had a back design similar to the diamond pattern on the case
+M B I've got those too, cost around $4 if you get them from aliexpress. Very nice looking but a little slippery
This is my new name, That was my thought exactly! These are really nice (and clearly VERY resistant!) cards, I would love them in my collection just because they look great, but if anything, this video proves that if you get them at a decent price, they're very functional as well!
Plus, knowing it's not real gold makes you not afraid of wear and tear!
All good points here. Thanks for the tip on the alternate backs, btw. I think I'll go ahead and grab one after all (seeing $3.40 for a lattice back), as they're clearly resistant to fluid ingress, and friends might mistakenly assume that I'm just some sort of turbo-baller with real gold playing cards.
the certificate doesn't have a lab name or a Certificate Authority, where can you verify the number?
Thomas Richter nowhere, because it's not a genuine certificate.
that's my point, It should be the first thing to test...
You really expect something that elaborate? Your the type of person who buys that crap on Amazon and gives it a bad review because it's crap...... Never could understand those people. "I bought a $20 knock-off Apple Watch and it's not exactly like the real Apple Watch!" "1 star!!!"
@@dphorgan Don't you think that's a bit harsh? "I know you're just thinking out loud about ways to authenticate this product, but no, I'm going to accuse you of being a naive idiot who ruins everything for everyone!"
fiat printed on fake gold. actual meme
BIGGS WHAT THE FUCK
LMAO CANT BELIEVE I SAW THIS HOW YOU BEEN BROTHER
chillen bro
That’s hilarious! It’s all a scam, fake gold and fiat
cryptocurrencies
I hope the next Cody’s Blab video is of you calling the manufacturer for an explanation, haha.
I hope to see this happen
id watch that off principal alone, that is all
Man Cody, I love watching you think your way through things! Do you think we could get a Basic Chemistry series?
Wow that is a shitty scam. Time to test the old gold plated pokemon cards from mcd's or bk whatever it was back in the day.
Angel Bunny don't touch the Pokemon cards
well, you dont have to touch them, xray seems to be enough. Still wouldnt consider a scam though as you couldnt really gold plate 52 playing cards with 24K gold for 5 bucks. If the 80 dollar one was fake aswell, that would indeed be a scam.
Chuckiele it shouldn’t have a certificate of authenticity if it is fake.
well the certificate was obviously fake too...
I have two I think. At least one. I'll gladly donate them to you Cody if you happen to read this.
The mining and refining videos are your best.
In the next video:
*Puts his arm shoulder deep in a barrel of aquarega"
"Is this your card?"
"For reasons which, are too complicated to explain right now"
Basically, he's saying we're all intellectually inferior.
or that its just a chore to explain.... which is true rather you can grasp the explanation or not.
The easiest way to explain it requires a knowledge 0f Square Dancing...
Rekt Excalibur He just doesn't feel like cutting to a previous vid.
I have an idea of the reasons and i can confirm you that it would have taken a whole on itself to be explained
what does inferior mean ?
What would happen if you burned the cards to see of there were any metals left?
I thought you were going to make gold playing cards for a second and I thought "wow cody is this really the best use of your resources?"
yes please
But how it had a certificate of 'Authenticity...'
Man I hate scammers... My first concern when it failed to react right away.
I expected it as soon as I saw it.
!
!
Cool
I'm going back to school at USU Uintah basin for a chemistry degree. You've inspired me Cody
Got to love how USU has campuses all over UT
I'm just curious whether you checked that the certificate itself was gold plated? I know that it's a common tactic in the more unscrupulous sects of the leather industry to use a patch of real leather that says that it's real leather as the tag on an artificial leather jacket so that customers think the tag is referring to the whole jacket rather than just the tag itself, and something similar could've occurred here?
Gold leaf in iodine solution: Mr. Cody, I don't feel so good.
Gold Fail more like it, hehe
This is my favorite series other than the mining series please do more of these
What if the certificate of authenticity is the only thing that's actually authentic? Did you test that or only one of the actual cards?
That'd be pretty funny, and they wouldn't technically be lying. The certificate only says that there is genuine gold somewhere inside the deck, not that each card genuinely has gold.
As long as there is one atom of Au, its not a scam. Lol. Nice observation.
kurtu5 Actually, there'd have to be actual gold foil, since that's what the certificate says. It could be an incredibly small piece, but it would have to be gold foil or leaf, not just gold in general.
Not sure what the lower bound "metal leaf' has before it ceases to be 'metal leaf'. Perhaps to be considered leaf, it must first be beaten as a manufacturing step, which would distinguish it from plating. If you split it down such that you only had one atom, is it then leaf?
More likely there is a speck of leaf with quadrillions of atoms somewhere in the certificate. The cost to precisely place only one atom would be incredibly high.
He said he tested it negative in another comment
It's fraudulent no matter how you look at it. If the intent is to deceive, and the average consumer would be deceived, it's considered fraud.
How about trying to refine/recover metals from the plants around your mine? Biomining?
Or refining iron from human blo.. or ummm. no biomining sounds real neat!
Vulcanfire01 that's plant abuse though. It will get demonetized.
Do the road-dust platinum please!
Thomas Walsh he did say it was technically a valuable ore
Whut?
i love your videos beacuase their educational and the refining series is my favorite series of videos!
alarm bells ring for me when i saw the plastic as not many elements can be plated to plastic and gold is one of them as plastic cant conduct the current needed for electrolisis.
Stoned Savage!
The thought is that it was gold foil not gold plated, gold foil is essentially extremely thin sheets of gold that can be glued to a surface.
Not to mention it was $6.60ish for a deck of cards. That gives it away.
A lot of the time you start a process like this with electroless deposition of metal to deposit a thin seed layer. Then move on to electrodeposition. That's how you get those shiny chrome plated plastics.
You could deposit gold by RF sputtering
They might have been plated using the same method that they use to apply the metal layer to CDs.
Love these gold videos
I love the refining series almost as much as the beekeeping videos!
Well, at least one prayer was answered, let's hope he goes back to the other series as well!
Ooops Cody you left your delivery area in the video
doesnt really help too, only narrows it down to a pretty large area, i just checked
Yeah he basically describes where it is on his videos where he takes long distance videos across the valley.
One thing is, he doesn't actually live there, his father does, and the other thing is his dad would probably shoot anyone that came by looking to hang out with Cody ;)
I was curious one day and using only his video about getting water from town I was able to find his farm on Google maps *shrug*
pretty easy to find stuff on google maps in non-forested areas.
im pretty sure i once found the house of colin furze, based on a newspaper article and his video about building a shed
In bed. Drifting off...*DING*
CodysLab. Yeah, I am up now.
Doing a time lapse on a giant clock is a really great idea
If they wanted to make gold plated cards that you could actually play a game with more than once without destroying them, the gold layer would certainly have to be beneath something.
If I had to guess, I'd assume they're using something like PETE, which is the type of plastic soft drink bottles are made of. One of its propertities (which is probably very relevant to being food safe, actually) is that it's pretty innert and most common organic solvents (such as your paint thinner) won't touch it. Even with solvents that DO work (DCM seems to be a common recommendation. More specifically to PET family plastics, phenols, as well as DMSO and nitrobenzene), you will probably have to heat it up close to the solvent's boiling point and then wait a few hours.
Keldor314 thanks for that. It probably explains why I met with disaster trying to get the coating off a beer can. The solvents and paint stripper I tried had no effect. I tried burning it off with an ordinary butane/propane torch and the aluminium melted. Looks like I'll need to spend hours with fine emery.
I thought that you were going to make gold playing cards
Maybe they were copper plated first then a super thin layer of zinc. Zinc plated onto copper is known to actually alloy with it on the surface creating a nice shiny golden brass. Ask nurdrage
Its most likely aluminum though
Both Cu & Zn are heavier than Al and would have been detected by the x-ray gun.
Hey Cody,
I have watched this video like a hundred thousand times and I got to thinking..... Would you be interesting in revisiting the playing cards? The cheap ones of course and see if you can render the cards down and identify the metal they are made of... Perhaps if you could get the "plating" off of all of them and try to furnace it down to burn off the combustibles like the coating and such and see if you get some type of metal in the end? I miss these videos, I think it would be cool to see how to render all metals from ore. I live on a mountain and have a lot of rock to identify around the property.... You know what I think would also be neat, make a bar of fools gold, since the stuff turns to ash it would be a challenge I think.... Good excuse to make more crucibles and cupules. I don't know, like I said I miss the refining videos. If you could maybe use some tactics from Grants old videos and also make a sustainable forge for those of us that can't but they better stuff.
Heck yea! he's back!
He never left?
just assumed that the ranch fire would delay him, but I was wrong
Can you try to extract the mercury from the vapors in a florescent lamp?
Is it possible only the "Certificate of Authenticity" contains gold? Was that included in the x-ray test?
truthsmiles yes. He did X-Ray the certificate too at one point.
Maybe there is some gold, but not on the numbered cards but only on the ones with pictures? They looked a little different. I don´t know how deep the X-ray works. I would like to see if the gold leaf is picked up under the stack of cards or if one of the picture cards is treated with gold solving solutions. Great video Cody, can you give an update on the farm fire? Are the trees safe?
Iodine, uodine, we all dine for iodine!
I've purchased a number off of items off of amazon, most of them electrical connectors of various sorts and most of them have had no gold in them at all (I have access to the same XRF analyzer you have in my lab and can measure plating thickness via metallography). I posted the results in my reviews of those products and on a few other sites that sell the products and a year later have found those products are no longer available from those sites and in some cases the store no longer sells products from that manufacturer.
Those five dislikes are the people who genuinely believed in the gold cards
crims 7n , Or the people who sell them to suckers.
liek me ;'(
Excellent video Cody 👌👍
The gold leaf dissolving in the iodine: Mr Stark I don't feel too good
The only solid gold cards I know of are from Mitsubishi Materials. They produced several sets of Hello Kitty themed card decks for the 33rd anniversary of Hello Kitty which were made of fine gold rolled several microns thick then covered in plastic. They also produce printed fine gold business cards, which are made of paper roll-coated in one gram of fine gold.
That was actually really sad to learn. I hope the company that's selling the fraudulent cards is taken down.
However, you still managed to make an interesting video out of it! I can't wait for more videos of this series, hopefully with legitimate materials next time. =)
Cody, huge fan. You inspired me to start keeping bees this season, and I love your videos about refining -- mainly for the chemistry. I would love to see some videos about how to produce basic chemical reactants from natural or readily available materials. For example, making your own nitric acid, or recovering elemental sulphur from ore, or the iodine from sea kelp. Thanks for the videos!
YAY, MORE CODY
You’re human waste man.
@@jasonthompson318 What on Earth is wrong with you?
@@General12th probably watched some his content
It might just be all about the wording that is on that guarantee. It might be that the gold that is on it is 24k gold but it doesn't necessarily mean that the entire card is gold plated. what I mean by that is if you look at the crowns on the face cards they are a slightly different colour from the rest of the cards front and backs. I would check those crowns and see if they might be the only gold plated parts on those cards. Ideally thought I would recommend turning the cards to ash, and then treating the ash with a solution of AR and then testing that solution with stannous chloride to see if any precious metals are present. Or if you want to use your XRF just test the ashes prior to treating with AR.
As the cards are plastic, I imagine it would be rather messy trying to turn them to ash
No more difficult than converting black pack IC's to ash, low oxygen & high temperature.
The x-ray would have detected it if there was any gold on _any_ of the cards.
Incorrect, XRF's only detect what is on the surface or extremely minutely below the surface, also I mentioned to test the crown of the face cards as the only cards that was tested was the 6 of clubs. to test the entirety of a sample you would need to use another method like fire assay or ICP
You are correct, I'm definitely not qualified to run a $40k x-ray gun. Time to see if Amazon will cancel my order. ;)
Thank you for informing me/us.
I guess he really got PLAYED by those fake cards xD
coincidence that episode 25 involves playing cards, because there are 25 cards in the deck!
Are you dyslexic? There are 52 playing cards in a standard deck.
no trust me i counted, i found this deck of cards at the bottom of a septic tank, and i can semi-consistently count to 25.
... there are after Cody's done with it!
Could it be TiN .. Titanium nitride coating is gold. Its used in firearms finishes quite a bit
Can you do a series where you refine something starting from scratch? Like you take something that needs chemicals to refine but make those chemicals from scratch using only tools and no purchased chemicals aside from water.
I love how you mixed it up a bit with showing us a dud. It really helped show the scientific method by taking your original assumptions and putting it to the test!!!😁
Wouldn't it make more sense to add the sodium hydroxide before the hydrochloric acid?
Thats like asking if it makes more sense to multiply 2 X 3 than 3 X 2.
But doesn't the acid neutralize the NaOH before it has a chance to help the iodine dissolve into the water?
It's the Na ions that help it dissolve, and the acid doesn't touch those anyway.
Cody'sLab But if the reaction is between the sodium hydroxide and iodine then it would make sense to let that happen before adding the hydrochloric acid which will consume all the sodium hydroxide.
What I appreciate about your videos is that you're not just some kind of gold-crazed prospector, you're genuinely interested in the chemicals and processes over all.
So let me get this right... you add HCl then NaOH and you think that... nevermind.
I thought the same thing... just add NaCl?
Meh, its all the same as far as the chemistry is concerned.
I sucked at chemistry so I wouldn't know if he was doing something wrong lol.
To be fair, HCl is the only acid you'll need 90% of the time
HCl + NaOH --> H20 + NaCl
He was destroying the acid he added that the process could use in order to create Na ions when he could have just added table salt (NaCl) to begin with.
Hows the progress on your chainmail labcoat?
Gold foil? More like gold fail! But when i saw them at the place that i live at i bought it for the looks not even expecting it to be gold anyways and i sure did bought mine for $5. Everyone just enjoy your cards ☺️
Damn that sucks. Well I’d still keep em cause they look cool.
That looks like a pretty convenient way to dissolve gold! Just an iodine solution and some acid, then some base to recover it. Very cool. Is it selective for gold, or can it dissolve other metals too?
Cody, I may not know my chemistry but did you retest the card after you separated it off the plastic, also, you should have tried some gallium of the metal sheet to see if it reacted to the Aluminum.
Kristyanna Virgona he did retry it, he put the film back in while he said something like "well I don't know what it is, but I'm actually surprised how well they faked it"
Not everything that glitters is gold, does it?
Before the video: i wonder will those gold card change to normal car after it.
Afer the video: fudge those are not gold
Omg I was just rewatching this series last night because I love the series so much
Gold leaf : "I don't feel so good Mr Cody"
what was this sophisticated device you used and what exactly was it reading in this graph.
is saw the the unit keV which is a unit for energy
i would guess it counts the reflected rays with specific wavelengths and intensities(? sry i never really had electromagnetic radiation, photons in school physics) and and every material only or mostly reflect specific parameters)
could you maybe do a own video on this device and explain in depth how it works ( with the electronics and physics behind )
If something comes with a CoA like that and it turns out to be completely bogus, can you pursue legal action against the company? Maybe even class action lawsuit?
Just saying your next toy should be one of them hand held laser rust removers.
You helped me pass my gcses with a perdicted 8 (A)
7:43 "definitely probably not" :-D
Your test is wrong, the certificate states it :)
I'm 2 minutes in and wondering why he didn't just put them in a blender and then put them shake/centrifuge the gold to the bottom... Educate me Cody.
Cody do u like ants by any chance?
1) This made me sad - I have a pack of those sitting next to me, and up until now I thought they were real.
2) Don't suppose there's any chance of doing this with those gold/silver/bronze plated dice? You've got me a little nervous here.
I always watch cody'slab no matter what!
Wonder if the material on the cards was gold colored Mylar, like the insulation on the Apollo LEM’s?
I thought that was Kapton with aluminum flashed onto the back?
Pygar2 Yeah, I was wrong. Don’t even know where I came up with that lol. I’m still curious what material was on these playing cards!
Kudos to Cody for going from "Hey let's extract gold" > "Hey let's see what the heck this is made from." Sucks tho that their faked and a lot of folks fell for it =(
"There's no gold in dem darn cards!" dag nabbit!!
I commend you for not taking the easy clickbait route with the title. "GENUINE GOLD PLAYING CARDS PROVED FAKE??? "
(*Cody posts a video*)
Me: *AHH HURRY THINK OF A ORIGINAL COMMENT TO POST SO I CAN GET LIKES AND BE SEEN BY CODY POSSIBLY*
(*Post random comment*)
(*Gets two likes*)
Me:...
*HELL YEAH IM FAMOUS WOOOOOOOOOOOO*
I'M SHOCKED!!! [HOP HOP HOP!]
Nobunny should be shocked...heap of liars...I knew they were just plastic.
Even the 80 dollar set is fake.
I think Cody should make a GOLD BULLET and fire it into a block of FROZEN AQUA REGIA or something similar to create a disappearing bullet, or create another chemical version of a frozen bullet.
Iodine exists as a non polar molecule due to the fact that it has has two identical iodine atom with same electronegativity. Therefore it sparingly dissolve in polar solvents such as water and readily dissolve in non polar solvents. In order to have a reasonable concentration of iodine in solution you would therefore have to had in iodide ions which forms complexs such as triiodide and other polyiodides that are soluble. Adding iodide solution creates an equilibrium where iodine is constantly being formed into iodides. Hope this explains
Ps I really want to be a chemist some day
So is this fools gold v2.0
How to collect that gold? Just drink it... done.
How to collect gold? Put a Jew in Iodine! ;)
I think this question and answer by this particular seller says it all....
"Question: Is there a certificate of authenticity included??
IT does come with a certificate, but please remember that this is for novelty purposes only. The quality of the cards is really nice, but it is not real gold. It is made of gold foil, which has no gold in it.
By Lucky Donk SELLER on December 8, 2017"
I was curious how much your handheld XRF spectrometer was worth so I did some research. It's worth $20,000-$25,000. Wow, Wtf are you doing with that Cody (besides the obvious)?
Of course this is a perfect video for the refining series. It teaches a valuable lesson of DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU SEE ONLINE AS TRUE. Everyone at one point is a novice, and so maybe they think that they would get them to 'try out' for the first time, and then it turns out not to be true and they question their equipment and yadda yadda.
I wouldn't be surprised, if there would be vacuum deposited gold laminated between two plastic foils (eg. PET). Such gold would be very thin (100nm) and resistant to any chemicalls, as many polymers doesn't dissolve in lacquer thinner. Have you tried dissolving this gold layer after separation of foil? like you tried to dissolve it in NaOH?
With this number of comments, I'm sure I won't get through, BUT, perhaps the card really do contain a very tiny amount of gold that was PVDed onto something like PE or PET film; this film would not be affected by paint thinner or other solvents, and the tiny amount of gold probably is not enough for the X-Ray to register.
Incinerating the pack of cards and checking for gold in the ash (with something really sensitive) probably has more chance of success.
Hey Cody! plating I'm sure you know, gold plating can cover a huge amount of surface, and the word is 1 ounce can in theory be pounded out to about 200 sq feet, pounding being the term for what is actually plating for those whom don't understand the process of plating........... the chinese man they are bad!!!
Be careful about Amazon gold reviews...There are HUNDREDS of sneaky tricks to them. In general they are fine, buuuut some companies can afford to locate people who bought a product, and pay them to write a way-too-positive review. So this happens a lot.
I believe Cody found what 90's comics kids call "Marvel's Gold" All the rage during the 90's foil craze.
Pesky time lapse cameras lol. Unlike yours, mine was recording, and it recorded itself falling into my seedling, knocking it over. Probably gonna have shock for a while, If it pulls through. Also loved the video!
Umm, you added acid, but then you added sodium hydroxide, which is a base. One assumes that it was probably immediately neutralized by the acid, forming sodium chloride (I think). Is that even effective?
Other context, but I thought because you're making a lot of stuff by yourself, like the gunpowder from urine, the methane fermenter, nitric acid, glas, etc. it would be a nice try to ferment your own Acetone with bacteria (Clostridium acetobutylicum) to have a solvent-source "in case of zombie apocalypse"
If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.
I have a video/video series request...
I saw a video the other day of a diamond that was heated up with a torch, then dropped in liquid oxygen and it turned into CO2 they said. I was wondering if you could make some videos on this and other carbon compounds in liquid oxygen. I don't know very much about carbon and would like to learn more. Could make a video series called something like "Amazing Carbon".
Anyway, Thanks for your hard work making your videos! I have watched most of them and enjoy them all. Hope to see more mine videos too, even if it isn't your mine.