its my current palace, i hope the next one will be better. i'm tired to set that machines to "lunch time" and trigger a 30s cutscene -.- EVERY TIME!!!!
Magenta Magenta I beat it in 1 day on hard if you have sp adhesive 3 for every party member ranked up a few confidants to get their abilities and then have personas that block or repel physical damage which you can get from this palace it becomes a cake walk and I for one actually really enjoyed its level design and music boss is kinda meh though if you even call it a boss fight
I always picture decarabia as being super resistant to attacks, and I forget that in 1/2 of the SMT games he's just super weak to gun/phys. Maybe it's just the tetrakarn that gets me.
Gryffen snyder-chavez "I see you were trying to conserve SP here, would be quite a shame if you...... *were forced to use magic instead of physical attacks* " o3o
sequoyachu98 I had to use it for the fight with... I'm not gonna say it since it's a huge spoiler and I don't want to ruin it for other people but it's after the palace that is after this.
Joker: Mona, I’m really glad that you found Haru when you did, truly. But where, when, and how did you get her a fake Axe and a Model Grenade Launcher? Noir: ...Fake? Oh! Do you use model weapons here in the metaverse? Joker: ...
What she says about the chocolates when you do harem valentines day is actually pretty scary. She goes: "take my chocolate please...before I crush it" in the creepiest tone of voice
I beat it in one day, _and_ beat that bitch Okumura without any grinding. Those brain gymnastics... _Profuse sweating_ Honestly though, I loved this Palace! Finally something willing to _kick_ my ass! :D (Have yet to finish the game, am just past this Palace.)
@@BlaizeTheDragon yeah but it made the boss a lot worse. Honestly I was only scared for Okumura's fight because there are like 28462 tutorials for this palace on yt 🤣
@@LFCBinzy As someone who went up against Okumura, on Hard, on a Solo Joker run, the fear is 100% justified. I got my ass handed to me so many times that I switched to Merciless just so I could do enough damage in Royal.
As someone who couldn't eat anything let alone lunch in work for 8 hours, i know that feeling of going to the toilet and then just scarfing down lunch before anyone notices. Man jobs are a hellscape of their own
Okumara's palace is extremely underrated. The theme sounded, the shadows moved, the personas attacked, the puzzles were puzzles, and Okumara was a boss. This is truly one of the palaces in the game hands down.
@@superluigifanful I personally hate it because it overstays its welcome fast with how resistant each enemy is and how annoying the puzzles are. I got stuck on one of the puzzles in particular for an hour. Plus, its theme is really repetitive. Sweatshop is one of the only songs in this game I just don’t like.
@Allustar Plays fair tbh I put on my favorite show while doing the keycard part in the og p5 and in royal they made it better also I really like the theme so I guess I just didn't suffer from the issues
The best part of this Palace to me is how eerily relatable it is. Anyone who's worked for a big company, even a decent one has probably still seen fucked up shit that instantly takes them to this Palace. And for the developers to capture it in such vivid and realistic detail is just astonishing.
@@King_RowletNot realistic? You live in a very ignorant mindset if you don’t think sweatshops and overworking and underpaid workers isn’t a very real work issue. More so overseas where labor laws are a lot less strict.
Did anybody else go into P5 expecting Haru to be this confident and imposing character who perhaps let the power go to her head a little too much? Such a 180 from what I expected. Still love her tho.
i expected futaba to be a villiain before playing the game,during the gameplay i expected her to be the real medjed,my expectations were right,but not in the way i was thinking
Okumura: You will never defeat me! Hahahahahaha!!! *summons waves upon waves of mooks* *mooks get defeated* Okumura: I will not be defeated easily!!! Joker: *taps shoulder* Okumura: *dies*
I just looked up Milady. She basically lies, tricks, seduces, and murders men for revenge, power, and money. Its ironic that, with Milady's background of marrying one of the three musketeers Athos, who was Milady's first husband, that Haru wears a musketeer's outfit. Could this irony be that Haru will be faithful to whomever she marries, yet she rebels against her own father?
I don't know if Atlus put too much thought into the fact that Milady de Winter is a VILLAIN in Three Musketeers. She's a pretty horrible person. I think they just liked the idea of a Musketeer design for Haru, and...well..Milady IS the most famous female character from that book, even if she's one of the bad guys.
MrMrMrprofessor People view Haru as a liar, most likely because of her father. That’s reflected in her outfit and Persona. The whole point of the costumes and Personas is so that they take off the mask that society gives them. That’s why she literally takes off the mask on her suit to summon her Persona.
To anyone having trouble in this Palace: For the first part of the dungeon (collecting ID cards), make sure to always have Ann and Morgana in your party as the little robots in this section are weak to wind and fire so eliminating them is your first priority before you attack the main chief of the fight. Make sure you are always using skills that begin with "Ma," since they attack multiple foes at once. When you take out the smaller robots, the chief will repeatedly summon one, while he is doing this you want to always take it out so he's stuck in an endless cycle of summoning a robot while your other two party members are focusing on damaging him. Second part (dealing with the moving pads, along with the 30 second time limit), make sure to at least eliminate the mobs that block your way otherwise you will just end up getting attacked, and ambushed while sprinting to your next pad. This part is fairly easy since there are no real robots to deal with. Third part (reaching the end of the pads, and encountering the small golden robots similar to the one from the first part), make sure to bring Yusuke along as these robots in particular are weak to ice. Every turn he will hit their weak point which will cause him to engage in constant +1 more moves, making it very easy to deal with these foes. Fourth (airport flying, or whatever), I have nothing for this since I pretty much figured it out on my own with a bit of backtracking. Fifth (boss fight), for this all you need to remember the color of the robots so you can make out what they are weak to. I don't remember what the tall red and blue robots were weak to, but I know the giant, green one is weak to Psy? The fight after that will be the executive chief, keep in mind that this specific boss has no real weakness (or I don't think it does since I never hit a weak spot on it), and actually takes time to beat with patience. After you fight him, you will finally face-off Okumura who can be defeated in 1-2 turns. A lot of people here probably finished the Palace but I just wanted to throw that out there, good luck. :)
Define "sweatshop": A factory where workers are employed at a very low wage and work long hours under poor conditions. That fits this Palace and the ruler pretty well. Almost too well.
i already knew this, but reading this and not thniking it makes me wanna cry. (keep in mind my empathy is super low) I mean can you blame me? Persona 5 is deep af.
Do you know what’s especially scary about Okumura’s palace (Aside from the difficulty, amirite)? The cognition of Haru’s fiancé is literally no different from the real life version of him. Okumura _knew_ how awful he was, and yet he intended on selling Haru off to him anyway. That scene alone made me hate him.
Okumura before his change of heart is literally one of the worst fathers one can be. He didn't even view Haru as a person, only as an asset that he could employ any way he wanted.
I think they went for the full atmosphere thing here. Since the shadows come from how Okumura sees his workers, of course most of them will be a lot more used to physical stuff if working so hard physically is the norm for them. Things like that are why I actually really like this palace loads. Or why you've gotta go through just mobs and mobs of enemy shadows. Okumura sees them as expendable and replenishable. Sounds a bit counterintuitive, but the fact that the palace furthered the theme of Okumura so much, it's got its memorable and sensible parts cause of it
Miguel Carvalho Is not really that bad, in fact is one of my favorite because of the ambience, I think that the principal reason why People hate so much this palace, are the enemies of this palace.
One of my fondest moments of this game was when I first entered Okumura’s dungeon and this theme started playing...it was 3am, nobody was awake....and I got up and danced shamelessly for a good 10 minutes.
In this Palace right now. I don't know how I feel about the gimmicks so far, but the idea of us exploring a SPACE STATION is super cool to me, and this music sets the theme. It's a very neat setting.
@@egg8404this banger of a theme must have been put in Okumura's Palace because the devs knew it was going to be even more suffering than it already is otherwise. I may lose half of my mind, but at least I get to listen to some dang good beats while Im losing it.
She kinda was though. 1. Senpai 2. Empress Arcana 3. Filthy rich, inherits a business 4. Engaged to a guy she doesn't want to marry, can get together with MC instead 5. Father is killed by the traitor
I feel like Haru is a sadist underneath the fluffy exterior. Her comments in Mementos has convinced me of that, and seeing the background of her initial persona Milady, I can only fathom the thought of Akira enduring hell if he romances with her, since the confidant explanation says that he becomes her new fiance.
"The treasure is just passed this door" (or something similar to that quote) Oh man the false sense of hope Persona 5 gave me. Despite that being said a couple of times I still believed it was true so it hurt more when I was hit with airlock puzzles. Even though i could come back another day refreshed but you know once I enter I don't come out until ive secured the route to the treasure. it would be an inconvenience to the time I need to spend with confidants
This is probably my favorite palace theme so far. I liked the palace, but that Morgana troll moment kind of got me. "The treasure's right through this door!" *Had to make three more long trips and bring SP drinks*
My only complaint about this palace is that this one was the only one that didn't take place in a classic heist location. Palaces like the castle and the art gallery (I'll avoid pointing out the later ones to avoid spoilers) are usually targets in heists and fit well with the gentleman thief motif. This one was really out there and didn't fit well with the rest of the game. I did like the puzzles though.
There's a reason why it didn't seem like it fit with the rest of the game. That's a story spoiler though, considering what happens when you beat this palace, and all the things you learn about the palace owner, and the reason why they are the target that's chosen. The game throws this palace as a curveball because that's its purpose, to throw you off. It fulfills its role perfectly and the game doesn't ever suffer from it, it's so good how the game plays out.
I agreed with that at first when reading it, but given the music, the space station, and the gentleman theif theme...It gave me a Cowboy Bebop feel. The Shadow costume RUINED IT, but I would argue that it could be an homage to all the sci-fi tropes where they make Space Westerns...even Trigun could fit in that category. Youre right, the execution was kinda garbage. Anticlimactic for the end... But listen to this and then Cowboy Bebop Jupiter Jazz.. I think this is what they were after
Soulnfinity Stealing the Death Star plans??? there's lots on theivery of the Empire in star wars. Okumura is a clearly dart Vader (altered voice and lite Brite chest.)
Haru telling about the abuse and neglect she has faced and coming to reconcile with that as well with how awful her father really is. The background music absolutely going off!
This Palace may get a lot of hate for how tedious and unforgiving it can be if you're not prepared (don't even get me STARTED on the boss fight), but you cannot deny that this theme absolutely SLAPS.
Shawn Peterson Yeah imo the space station aspect was really cool and I enjoyed the air lock puzzles, if only for the fact that you were floating through space.
The only thing I really didn't like were the massive amounts of physical resistant enemies. The puzzles were some of the best in the game and the music is amazing.
Tora Kyte Oh god yeah, ran out of sp really quickly in this one, I think this was around the first time I actually needed to swap out my party members.
I absolutely adore Haru, but she was introduced much too late for her to be useful. I didn't have enough time to finish her confidant, and I didn't have time to properly max her out. I used Ryuji and Makoto, and Haru's gun skills complimented the team nicely. But she was just underpowered (on NG+ when you don't have to worry about social stats, she's a lot better). So when Akechi joined the party I was really fucking happy, he was of a great power level, and his Bless, Curse, and Almighty skills worked perfectly. But we all know how that turned out...
Jamie Metcalfe Seriously ,Akechi was OP as hell. I wish he had stayed for a longer time so it wouldn't arouse suspicions of him that easily. Would love to have used Robin Hood more than I did!
I felt like every time I used him, he wouls die from a stray mudo skill. Especially when I went farming in mementos, I would have to revive his butt. And that's why you never have a weakness to hama/mudo skills, kids.
You mean the part where you find out that Akechi was pure evil? That he doesn't deserve respect, symparthy, empathy, or even forgiveness? Yes! Akechi deserved to die in the end, after all the people he killed, including Oracle's mom and Noir's dad. And no, Shido is just a client, Akechi is the hitman directly responsible for the murders.
Honestly...I've been through Tartarus. And I've played Persona 1. AND I compulsively breed Pokemon for perfect IVs and ev train them. For hundreds of hours at a time. This dungeon is nowhere near tedious.
Mannequin Victoria Chase Its not just that, people usually go physical because it has more mileage when it comes to clearing dungeons quickly due to SP costs of healing < SP cost of attack magic So being forced to use attack magic more often than not makes the dungeon artificially longer (and note that alot of people already found it tedious with its puzzles and navigation)
XxKyKiske2007xX the only bad part of the casino one was the panels and dark Maze Imo. Some of the ideas were really cool. Maybe I just love casino levels...
At first, this palace’s boss fight was an absolute hell to go through, but now that I think about it, it succeeded in one thing: making me use other parts of the battle system. I never really played any turn based RPGs other than Pokémon so I was used to just attacking everything and anything in my way, but the limitations applied on the boss fight made me use items in battle, both stat items and battle items. Truly a game changer that made the rest of the game easier and more enjoyable for me
The problem with the boss fight is that you get pretty much NO indication that it's coming. There's nothing that trains you for it-you have to learn how to abuse the Baton Pass mechanic by yourself. And if you don't have the resources or knowledge to properly do that, God help you.
Okumura's boss fight was among the best in the game as it actually demanded you to think about your moves. People be blasting Okumura's palace and boss fight when Kaneshiro exists.
@@ProfessorGopher2030i mean it very easy if you know how to do but a 30 minutes remain is a stupid thing, even if you strategy but if time over ? I play in Hard Mode for the first play and it give me 💩 while take so long to fight all their robot.
Well,if we're getting technical here, the guy was just using the food industry as a stepping stone to get into politics. So he didn't exactly care about his company anymore.
This is why the dungeon emotionally disturbed me so much. The analogies it uses can be applied strongly to real-world counterparts, try as I may not to dwell on it or on what world we live in >_< It's why I appreciated this game so much more, though.
Playing through all this in Persona 5 Royal, I knew what to expect. I still kept falling for Morgana's "The treasure is just right past this door". Thank god the Will Seeds restore SP
Me when I play through the third palace: "Holy crap, I love this song!" Me when I make it to the fifth palace: "This is coolest thing I've ever heard!!!" *Rivers in the Desert is still my favorite track, but this theme really feels you're about to steal the ultimate treasure*
I thought this palace was gonna be absolute hell based on what I heard for so long, but it was pretty fun It was the shortest, enemies were the same for all of it, so they weren't hard to deal with and the boss actually made me think for once in this game. Took me three tries, but felt like the most fun battle I had so far
@@ProfessorGopher2030 Yeah! This fight feels like it was just meant to be taken in one way and only one way only. If you try to use any other strat you just can't get past this fight at all almost like most of the secret bosses in persona style. It doesn't help that the robots have higher health compared to the ones you fight before.
"What will we name this theme for a Palace set in space and that is based of a fast food business tycoon." Sweatshop. "What are they putting old socks into the burger mix?"
fuck royal's okumura fight. genuinely fought him like 8 times before I beat him, that fight was asinine. IT WASN'T EVEN DIFFICULT MAN IT WAS JUST TEDIOUS AS FUCK.
I will have 2 big bang burgers, a big bang burger large, a Saturn potato with extra dip, a moon burger, 2 earth burgers, one with cheese and a large soda
That Airlock part... Actually, i wanted to go into the airlock part of the palace ever since i saw it in trailers. It was the part of the game i waited for since beginning of playing it. ...I kinda loved it.
I saw everyone complaining about this palace before getting to it. When I finally got there, I was like "alright, let's see what everyone's complaining about" And it wasn't bad at all. I enjoyed this palace and I find it way more memorable than Kaneshiro's and Futaba's.
The Palace itself isn't that bad at all. Granted, it can be a bit of a long haul, especially if you're not prepared. It's the boss fight, specifically in Royal, that tends to be the tipping point.
One of my favorite places. I really loved cyber punk space theme, robots, and future setting that was different from the others. Plus the music fits it very well and was a good challenge.
First dying? Easy mode,i think. Cuz 2nd boss was fucking imbalanced and you couldn't win it before you repeated that fight a lot.Okumura's Palace is hard af but it can't be place for the first death
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"The treasure is just through this door"
*A million doors, and a few trips through space later*
i was very angery
TheMixEmperor and hallways that you can't avoid enemies in
TheMixEmperor this had to be the most anynoying dungeon to traverse
plus lil shits that could kill you with 2 triple downs
its my current palace, i hope the next one will be better.
i'm tired to set that machines to "lunch time" and trigger a 30s cutscene -.- EVERY TIME!!!!
Shout out to all those people who beat this in one in game day. God knows we all lost a part of our soul that day.
Magenta Magenta I beat it in 1 day on hard if you have sp adhesive 3 for every party member ranked up a few confidants to get their abilities and then have personas that block or repel physical damage which you can get from this palace it becomes a cake walk and I for one actually really enjoyed its level design and music boss is kinda meh though if you even call it a boss fight
I had to split into 2 days because of how obnoxious the enemy placement got
Yup
beat it 1 day on merciless but honestly morgana and ann are musts for this palace
pssh try 50 minutes
I didn't know Persona made a level where you see what it's like working for Amazon...
OnlineVideoSurfer *Mcdonalds
Ikea.
Best comment i have ever seen so far
Epic games
Apple*
Shout out to the starfish persona who is weak to physical attacks
Of the councillor arcana in RoYaL
I always picture decarabia as being super resistant to attacks, and I forget that in 1/2 of the SMT games he's just super weak to gun/phys. Maybe it's just the tetrakarn that gets me.
ong that shadow saved my life
Bro you fucking watch your tone Decarabia is awesome.
@@christiangleason122 agreed
Okumura will forever be known as Darth Mcdonalds to me after seeing his shadow form.
nah hes mysterio
The arrow on his head kinda give me an Avatar vibe tbh
Then he gets fucking
*Shot*
*darthdonalds
McDarthnalds
Shout out to all the goddamn enemies in here that resist physical moves
Gryffen snyder-chavez
"I see you were trying to conserve SP here, would be quite a shame if you...... *were forced to use magic instead of physical attacks* " o3o
and this is why you craft elemental tools, really saved my ass a bunch of times when i had no sp
With the amount Megido bombs I had to make just to get through the factory, you might as well call me a bomb factory!
And this, kids. Is why you NEED to max out the death confidant for those SP adhesives
don't really need to max, just get to the point where you can buy them. but maxing it does help anyways.
Bet people who haven't played the game would be confused by that Thumbnail "why is techno music playing for a woman drinking Tea?"
LMAO that's Persona for ya
Raging Raving XD
Tbh it’s kinda fitting
Moon Raven uncultured swines
Lol
I tried to finish this Palace in one day and succeeded, but man did Morgana bait me at the last few areas.
"The Treasure is just up ahead" my ass.
Doing this palace in one day left me dead inside
I must’ve completely overlooked it by entrance from the music
I tried to do it in one day as well, but I had to take a break when I saw the sun come up
One in-game day or Real life day?
I finished the palace in one in game day but went back from the safe room before the boss. I wasted an entire day and was disappointed
And this Palace is the main reason of why you should buy the SP sodas at the bathhouse every single week
SanoVII Oh so THAT'S where the god damn sp sodas were. I couldn't find them for the life of me.
also checking your fridge every night it's possible to find sp refilling items
sequoyachu98 I've just decided to buy SP adhesive 3. Those sodas don't help that much.
I agree I only use them when Im really low on sp but otherwise I'd just share my sp adhesives around my party for whoever needed them lol
sequoyachu98 I had to use it for the fight with... I'm not gonna say it since it's a huge spoiler and I don't want to ruin it for other people but it's after the palace that is after this.
"the treasure is on the other side of this door,lets go!"
MORGANA YOU DISSAPOINT ME! WHAT A BIG LIE
It's all a matter of perspective, really.
"The treasure is at the other side of the door"
*Goes through door, sees another damn puzzle room. Gunshot is heard*
“The treasure is right through that door!”
*A few dozen puzzles and a couple round trips through space later*
Your facts are very accurate
Curse you Morgana!
Hour 1: BANGER
Hour 3: Get me out of this godamn maze
Thank _God_ for *SP Adhesive bandage*
Darin Gainey Thank god for the *Half Discount*
Better hope you have a Persona with Invigorate 3 on you, too. The effects of that and the SP Adhesive 3 both stack.
@@yourboyrussell6738 no i tried it. Invigorate 2 and SP Adhesive 3 or vice versa will stack.
@@chaos_omega_zero Oh right. Yeah… as if that isn't OP enough, lol.
Virgo Bro likewise. Unless enemy can be killed using physical attacks and that would be that star-enemyXD
"the treasure is on the other side of this door"
*it isn't*
SP points: Am I a joke to you?
True, true.
Too true...
Yeah, I remember this being hell on my SP first time, still did it in one day though.
SP Adhesive 3 my friend
Didn't have it yet, but I did have a ton of Coffee.
Shoutout to okumura’s boss fight for having like 7 something waves and respawning enemies if you don’t kill them all together
ah, the one part of this palace I suffered in
Most stressful boss fight I ever played 💀
Oh don’t forget the the robots blow up after two turns if okumura deicides that the fight wasn’t hard enough
@@burgerham4112 actual bruh moment
only in Royal. In OG, he's a joke
Joker: Mona, I’m really glad that you found Haru when you did, truly. But where, when, and how did you get her a fake Axe and a Model Grenade Launcher?
Noir: ...Fake? Oh! Do you use model weapons here in the metaverse?
Joker: ...
Cute joke, but to be fair, every other Persona-user manifested weapons of their own when they awakened to their Personas. Haru is no exception.
Quinn-G shes filthy rich. I wouldnt be surprised if she can afford one thats real tbh
Jason Calderon thats true and all, but uh...
*A grenade launcher?*
She manifested them when she awoke.
Joker didn´t, because he awoke halfway. So did she. It´s possible, im just sayin
This makes Haru seem waaaaaay more sinister than she actually is lol.
Yo, Haru is low-key pretty sinister.
If you know the history of her Persona, it does make Haru seem *much* less innocent than she first seems. Milady is NOT a nice person..
Haru has a grenade launcher and a giant axe.
She's pretty sinister.
What she says about the chocolates when you do harem valentines day is actually pretty scary.
She goes: "take my chocolate please...before I crush it" in the creepiest tone of voice
I made this comment before I saw that clip xD She's sinister enough for this. xD
Peoples: "This palace uses a lot of SP!"
Me: Laughs in SP adhesive 3
Highest on my priority list for this was to get a handful of those. Still in the middle of the palace, but those things are amazing.
Persenn Me: *laughs in Victory Cry*
After i finished this palace i went crying tae with all the money i could scrape up for sp adhesives
@@CrowCrojoINTJ fr victory cry is a godsend for this palace
* We the intellectuals *
The theme of "oh god when will it end!?"
BlaizeTheDragon ‘’The treasure is just behind this door!’’
I beat it in one day, _and_ beat that bitch Okumura without any grinding. Those brain gymnastics... _Profuse sweating_
Honestly though, I loved this Palace! Finally something willing to _kick_ my ass! :D
(Have yet to finish the game, am just past this Palace.)
@@AniGaAG is that normal or royal? Because royal made the palace less tedious
@@BlaizeTheDragon yeah but it made the boss a lot worse. Honestly I was only scared for Okumura's fight because there are like 28462 tutorials for this palace on yt 🤣
@@LFCBinzy As someone who went up against Okumura, on Hard, on a Solo Joker run, the fear is 100% justified. I got my ass handed to me so many times that I switched to Merciless just so I could do enough damage in Royal.
Fun Fact:
In some Japanese fast food restaurants you can ask for a smile for free (as in it’s actually written on the menu)
wait
yakuza’s smile burger isn’t just a fun gimmick?
Wow inmate, that's dark
@@Pomlithe my thoughts exactly
@Nicholas Gomez OOH GOD ! An Iwai Tip :x You better not lewd Haru on this one
im canadian and the cafe i work at has that too. so its probably not just a japan thing.
*click "lunch break"
run!!
*smokescreen first*
take a step back or just run past the enemies and heighten security like i did
LUNCHTIME!! LET US CONSUME OUR SLOP AND GLEEFULLY REENERGIZE!!!
Run Bitch Ruuun !!!!
As someone who couldn't eat anything let alone lunch in work for 8 hours, i know that feeling of going to the toilet and then just scarfing down lunch before anyone notices. Man jobs are a hellscape of their own
Mona saying the treasure is beyond the next door only to find out its not is the reason I have trust issues
Okumara's palace is extremely underrated. The theme sounded, the shadows moved, the personas attacked, the puzzles were puzzles, and Okumara was a boss. This is truly one of the palaces in the game hands down.
Lmao thank you for such a comment
idk if im just an optimist or something but i thought every palace was at least good i don't get why people hate this one lmao
@@superluigifanful because of the annoying boss fight
@@superluigifanful I personally hate it because it overstays its welcome fast with how resistant each enemy is and how annoying the puzzles are. I got stuck on one of the puzzles in particular for an hour. Plus, its theme is really repetitive. Sweatshop is one of the only songs in this game I just don’t like.
@Allustar Plays fair tbh I put on my favorite show while doing the keycard part in the og p5 and in royal they made it better also I really like the theme so I guess I just didn't suffer from the issues
The best part of this Palace to me is how eerily relatable it is. Anyone who's worked for a big company, even a decent one has probably still seen fucked up shit that instantly takes them to this Palace. And for the developers to capture it in such vivid and realistic detail is just astonishing.
Maybe not “realistic”, but definitely uncomfortably authentic
@@King_Rowlet I think what she's saying is that its so over the top that it captures what it FEELS like perfectly
@@sumanthdonthireddy750 As they say, it doesn't have to resemble what it LOOKS like to show you how it FEELS like.
@@King_RowletNot realistic? You live in a very ignorant mindset if you don’t think sweatshops and overworking and underpaid workers isn’t a very real work issue. More so overseas where labor laws are a lot less strict.
Every single day ngl, we're all robots in the end
Did anybody else go into P5 expecting Haru to be this confident and imposing character who perhaps let the power go to her head a little too much? Such a 180 from what I expected. Still love her tho.
Agreed
Whut?
Well, she is a sadist, so I guess she would be somewhat confident, but....
I thought she was gonna be the black masked intruder going in
i expected futaba to be a villiain before playing the game,during the gameplay i expected her to be the real medjed,my expectations were right,but not in the way i was thinking
I was expecting Futaba, Makoto and Haru to be against the PT after seeing the intro for the first time lol
If this was Persona 3/4 I wonder if there would be funny enemy shadows, like walking burgers with eyes or a tank made of french fries.
A burger tank with a french fry for its barrel (turret, whatever they call the long tank boner that shoots their shells)
...Cannon?
a tank made of pancake
What about the long, noodly-armed guy? I always thought his head looked like a drink cup.
Pomlithe vive la France
*Sips* *tea* *like* *a* *queen*
makoto doesnt drink tea though.
No but Haru and Makoto are hinted to be closer... their Ults even compliment each other in some form.
like a queen, not Queen :D
+Jun Kurosu Looking cool, Joker!
Like an empress*
Okumura: You will never defeat me! Hahahahahaha!!!
*summons waves upon waves of mooks*
*mooks get defeated*
Okumura: I will not be defeated easily!!!
Joker: *taps shoulder*
Okumura: *dies*
I love that, how you just need to shoot him once and he's defeated
I used haru and shot him once.
I forced his own daughter to defeat him.
that was so satisfying
@@fierytigergaming8112 satanael
My.. uto... pia..
i mean joker wasn’t the one to kill him but aight
"Physical attacks aren't working!"
Green Reimu so irritating
Decabaria: *appears*
Me: So, it looks like fire on the front, ice on the back. Maybe wind or lightning will wor-
*weak to physical*
ARMOR
「 Psycrow; Split 」 dude decarabia was a lifesaver with all those sp-free downs and baton passes
Sp be going down down down 😭
I just looked up Milady. She basically lies, tricks, seduces, and murders men for revenge, power, and money. Its ironic that, with Milady's background of marrying one of the three musketeers Athos, who was Milady's first husband, that Haru wears a musketeer's outfit. Could this irony be that Haru will be faithful to whomever she marries, yet she rebels against her own father?
I shudder too think what might off turn into if she dint join the phantom thieves
S Manly
And let’s not forget that Haru has sadistic tendencies..
VenomLeon she does make a flowerbed on the roof of their school, though
I don't know if Atlus put too much thought into the fact that Milady de Winter is a VILLAIN in Three Musketeers. She's a pretty horrible person.
I think they just liked the idea of a Musketeer design for Haru, and...well..Milady IS the most famous female character from that book, even if she's one of the bad guys.
MrMrMrprofessor People view Haru as a liar, most likely because of her father. That’s reflected in her outfit and Persona. The whole point of the costumes and Personas is so that they take off the mask that society gives them. That’s why she literally takes off the mask on her suit to summon her Persona.
To anyone having trouble in this Palace:
For the first part of the dungeon (collecting ID cards), make sure to always have Ann and Morgana in your party as the little robots in this section are weak to wind and fire so eliminating them is your first priority before you attack the main chief of the fight. Make sure you are always using skills that begin with "Ma," since they attack multiple foes at once. When you take out the smaller robots, the chief will repeatedly summon one, while he is doing this you want to always take it out so he's stuck in an endless cycle of summoning a robot while your other two party members are focusing on damaging him.
Second part (dealing with the moving pads, along with the 30 second time limit), make sure to at least eliminate the mobs that block your way otherwise you will just end up getting attacked, and ambushed while sprinting to your next pad. This part is fairly easy since there are no real robots to deal with.
Third part (reaching the end of the pads, and encountering the small golden robots similar to the one from the first part), make sure to bring Yusuke along as these robots in particular are weak to ice. Every turn he will hit their weak point which will cause him to engage in constant +1 more moves, making it very easy to deal with these foes.
Fourth (airport flying, or whatever), I have nothing for this since I pretty much figured it out on my own with a bit of backtracking.
Fifth (boss fight), for this all you need to remember the color of the robots so you can make out what they are weak to. I don't remember what the tall red and blue robots were weak to, but I know the giant, green one is weak to Psy? The fight after that will be the executive chief, keep in mind that this specific boss has no real weakness (or I don't think it does since I never hit a weak spot on it), and actually takes time to beat with patience. After you fight him, you will finally face-off Okumura who can be defeated in 1-2 turns.
A lot of people here probably finished the Palace but I just wanted to throw that out there, good luck. :)
red is weak to lighting and blue is weak to wind.
You are gods gift
This should be pinned
Commenting for future reference😂
@@granitegt3301 yep
Define "sweatshop":
A factory where workers are employed at a very low wage and work long hours under poor conditions.
That fits this Palace and the ruler pretty well. Almost too well.
i already knew this, but reading this and not thniking it makes me wanna cry. (keep in mind my empathy is super low) I mean can you blame me? Persona 5 is deep af.
Yeah, I also don't get paid enough to play this palace under those poor conditions
s y m b o l i s m
yeah
Sweatshop of Frustration Gone Horribly Right.
You wanna unhappy mcburger meal, kay?
Yes I’ll have one unhappy meal, with exhaustion and a side of depression, and unpaid overtime to drink. What’s the office supply this week?
Zidane Tribal nice and creative. Me gusta
Futaba Sakura FUTABA IM SICK OF BEING A PHANTOM THIEF
Oh look it's best girl.
Would you like cries with that?
I like Noir's victory screen, it's just,
B I G
S I P
Do you know what’s especially scary about Okumura’s palace (Aside from the difficulty, amirite)? The cognition of Haru’s fiancé is literally no different from the real life version of him. Okumura _knew_ how awful he was, and yet he intended on selling Haru off to him anyway. That scene alone made me hate him.
Yeah exactly and I’d that didn’t hammer the point enough cognitive haru was a fucking robot that KILLS herself in his boss fight in royAl
@@frostycane5134he sees her as a means to an end
Damn
And if you're playing Royal, the boss fight will make you hate him even more with how hard it can get (I heard it's a bit easier in vanilla)
Okumura deserved to die.
Okumura before his change of heart is literally one of the worst fathers one can be. He didn't even view Haru as a person, only as an asset that he could employ any way he wanted.
Haru has more screentime in this video than she does in the entire game
A curse all final party members in Persona games seem to bear. :(
Luigi in SPM got the same treatment.
Haru is in the shitty position of being one of the last Phantom Thieves we recruit. That means her storyline stays unfinished quite often.
This dungeon depressed me
why
that was 9 months ago
The_Gamer-V2 that was 3 days ago
The_Gamer-V2 so what?
agree
I think they went for the full atmosphere thing here. Since the shadows come from how Okumura sees his workers, of course most of them will be a lot more used to physical stuff if working so hard physically is the norm for them. Things like that are why I actually really like this palace loads. Or why you've gotta go through just mobs and mobs of enemy shadows. Okumura sees them as expendable and replenishable. Sounds a bit counterintuitive, but the fact that the palace furthered the theme of Okumura so much, it's got its memorable and sensible parts cause of it
probably important enough to note that the corporobos are actually cognitions, and not shadows
This palace really made you feel like one of the workers by being an absolute chore
i dont care what others say about sweatshop/okumura's palace, this shit SLAPS
This one pretty darn catchy
when you grind this palace and you’re in it for too long, this theme becomes HEADACHE INDUCING.
Oh, glad I'm not the only one..
OurMidnightMemory freaking true xD
1:07
"Gotta catch em all cuz he's
Danny Phantom"
"Gotta catch em all cuz he's
Danny Phantom"
"Gotta catch em all cuz he's
Danny Phantom"
this one wins life
Shadow Okumura totally looks like a Danny Phantom villain
OMG
LMAO
never want to do this dungeon again but ng+ awaits ughhhh
unaccounted disposition just started this dudgeon is it that bad?
Miguel Carvalho Is not really that bad, in fact is one of my favorite because of the ambience, I think that the principal reason why People hate so much this palace, are the enemies of this palace.
*Look at all the SP draining away!* o3o
sp generating gear for the win
NG+? *ALMIGHTY NUKE EVERYTHING*
One of my fondest moments of this game was when I first entered Okumura’s dungeon and this theme started playing...it was 3am, nobody was awake....and I got up and danced shamelessly for a good 10 minutes.
In this Palace right now. I don't know how I feel about the gimmicks so far, but the idea of us exploring a SPACE STATION is super cool to me, and this music sets the theme. It's a very neat setting.
This theme gets so much hate. But those synths and synth bass are just PHENOMENAL!!!
Is not the theme that gets hate, is the palace that's in that taints it. Cuz i haven't gotten to this place yet and I'm vibing
First thing I thought about this music when I first entered the Palace is that it’s awesome.
I mean it aint kaneshiro’s palace theme (price) but it still goes hard
@@egg8404 nah egg nigga really spoiled himself 💀
@@egg8404this banger of a theme must have been put in Okumura's Palace because the devs knew it was going to be even more suffering than it already is otherwise.
I may lose half of my mind, but at least I get to listen to some dang good beats while Im losing it.
this theme slaps and i’m tired of pretending it doesn’t.
Agree
I saw Haru in the trailer and thought she would be like Mitsuru but no. She's a little bean
i wish tho
She’s got the sadism to pull off a Mitsuru Execution under all of that fluff.
She kinda was though.
1. Senpai
2. Empress Arcana
3. Filthy rich, inherits a business
4. Engaged to a guy she doesn't want to marry, can get together with MC instead
5. Father is killed by the traitor
I feel like Haru is a sadist underneath the fluffy exterior. Her comments in Mementos has convinced me of that, and seeing the background of her initial persona Milady, I can only fathom the thought of Akira enduring hell if he romances with her, since the confidant explanation says that he becomes her new fiance.
Fiance, lover, who cares, if she's happy, then I'm happy
"NEVER ANNOY WOMAN WITH A AXE"
"The treasure is just passed this door" (or something similar to that quote) Oh man the false sense of hope Persona 5 gave me. Despite that being said a couple of times I still believed it was true so it hurt more when I was hit with airlock puzzles. Even though i could come back another day refreshed but you know once I enter I don't come out until ive secured the route to the treasure. it would be an inconvenience to the time I need to spend with confidants
as soon as i saw the door puzzle i put the game down wnet to bed and said maybe next week
This is probably my favorite palace theme so far. I liked the palace, but that Morgana troll moment kind of got me.
"The treasure's right through this door!"
*Had to make three more long trips and bring SP drinks*
My only complaint about this palace is that this one was the only one that didn't take place in a classic heist location. Palaces like the castle and the art gallery (I'll avoid pointing out the later ones to avoid spoilers) are usually targets in heists and fit well with the gentleman thief motif. This one was really out there and didn't fit well with the rest of the game.
I did like the puzzles though.
There's a reason why it didn't seem like it fit with the rest of the game. That's a story spoiler though, considering what happens when you beat this palace, and all the things you learn about the palace owner, and the reason why they are the target that's chosen. The game throws this palace as a curveball because that's its purpose, to throw you off. It fulfills its role perfectly and the game doesn't ever suffer from it, it's so good how the game plays out.
You could argue they are robbing a major coorporation and that's very heist-like. Put the sci-fi elements out and it still someone fits.
Soulnfinity a top secret base is a classic the if trope. Have you watched Mission impossible?
I agreed with that at first when reading it, but given the music, the space station, and the gentleman theif theme...It gave me a Cowboy Bebop feel. The Shadow costume RUINED IT, but I would argue that it could be an homage to all the sci-fi tropes where they make Space Westerns...even Trigun could fit in that category.
Youre right, the execution was kinda garbage. Anticlimactic for the end...
But listen to this and then Cowboy Bebop Jupiter Jazz.. I think this is what they were after
Soulnfinity Stealing the Death Star plans??? there's lots on theivery of the Empire in star wars. Okumura is a clearly dart Vader (altered voice and lite Brite chest.)
this theme and palace do not deserve the hate!! the space theme and design are so sick and this hard synth beat goes off!!
Haru telling about the abuse and neglect she has faced and coming to reconcile with that as well with how awful her father really is.
The background music absolutely going off!
Maybe the entire palace is a metaphor for what the workers have to go through every day. Mundane a choir and a real annoyance
Okumura’s Palace
Pros:
- Haru
- It’s in Space!
Cons:
- Everything Else
Cons: It’s in space.
Pros-
This theme.
Con: WASTING SP
This Palace may get a lot of hate for how tedious and unforgiving it can be if you're not prepared (don't even get me STARTED on the boss fight), but you cannot deny that this theme absolutely SLAPS.
This music is so grating to my ears and actually gives me a headache sometimes, but for some reason I come back to it every now and then.
Unpopular opinion but this is one of my favorite palace themes
You’re not alone. That said, I honestly love them all
I seem to be one of the few that actually enjoyed this palace.
I did too it was fun!
Shawn Peterson Yeah imo the space station aspect was really cool and I enjoyed the air lock puzzles, if only for the fact that you were floating through space.
pk100 I like it because of how it set the story afterwards
The only thing I really didn't like were the massive amounts of physical resistant enemies. The puzzles were some of the best in the game and the music is amazing.
Tora Kyte Oh god yeah, ran out of sp really quickly in this one, I think this was around the first time I actually needed to swap out my party members.
Playing through this dungeon was easily one of the most stressful things I've ever done.
It seriously gave me a real headache around the half of it.
I absolutely adore Haru, but she was introduced much too late for her to be useful. I didn't have enough time to finish her confidant, and I didn't have time to properly max her out. I used Ryuji and Makoto, and Haru's gun skills complimented the team nicely. But she was just underpowered (on NG+ when you don't have to worry about social stats, she's a lot better). So when Akechi joined the party I was really fucking happy, he was of a great power level, and his Bless, Curse, and Almighty skills worked perfectly. But we all know how that turned out...
I would have you know that pancakes are a wonderful thing.
Jamie Metcalfe Seriously ,Akechi was OP as hell. I wish he had stayed for a longer time so it wouldn't arouse suspicions of him that easily. Would love to have used Robin Hood more than I did!
I felt like every time I used him, he wouls die from a stray mudo skill. Especially when I went farming in mementos, I would have to revive his butt.
And that's why you never have a weakness to hama/mudo skills, kids.
You mean the part where you find out that Akechi was pure evil? That he doesn't deserve respect, symparthy, empathy, or even forgiveness? Yes!
Akechi deserved to die in the end, after all the people he killed, including Oracle's mom and Noir's dad. And no, Shido is just a client, Akechi is the hitman directly responsible for the murders.
I know what happened, he went to go eat those *thicc* and delicious pancakes
After having to deal with a thousand Anubis’s in the last palace, this one was a joke.
So you too were grinding for the Eternal Lockpick, it appears
oh yea, Fuck those guys.
Honestly...I've been through Tartarus. And I've played Persona 1.
AND I compulsively breed Pokemon for perfect IVs and ev train them. For hundreds of hours at a time.
This dungeon is nowhere near tedious.
Dungeon isn't hard, maybe the casino one because it was long as hell.
You mean Teddieous
this dungeon was so much fun, it was the best one imo
Mannequin Victoria Chase Its not just that, people usually go physical because it has more mileage when it comes to clearing dungeons quickly due to SP costs of healing < SP cost of attack magic
So being forced to use attack magic more often than not makes the dungeon artificially longer (and note that alot of people already found it tedious with its puzzles and navigation)
XxKyKiske2007xX the only bad part of the casino one was the panels and dark Maze Imo. Some of the ideas were really cool. Maybe I just love casino levels...
Absolutely my favorite palace hands down. Favorite puzzles in the game.
Amazing theme, mediocre dungeon in comparison.
I wish they could have given Haru a little more spotlight.
agreed wholeheartedly, haru had so much potential
But Haru is hot though.
XxKyKiske2007xX yeah I mean look at those melons the way they are placed
Now I have not gotten that far into the game yet, but I heard that her Persona had two phases. Thats where the spotlight went I think,.
Personally I wish that the enemies were less of a pain to fight
so many resist phys/gun skills, it forces you to waste SP for a lot of fights
At first, this palace’s boss fight was an absolute hell to go through, but now that I think about it, it succeeded in one thing: making me use other parts of the battle system. I never really played any turn based RPGs other than Pokémon so I was used to just attacking everything and anything in my way, but the limitations applied on the boss fight made me use items in battle, both stat items and battle items. Truly a game changer that made the rest of the game easier and more enjoyable for me
The problem with the boss fight is that you get pretty much NO indication that it's coming. There's nothing that trains you for it-you have to learn how to abuse the Baton Pass mechanic by yourself. And if you don't have the resources or knowledge to properly do that, God help you.
Okumura's boss fight was among the best in the game as it actually demanded you to think about your moves.
People be blasting Okumura's palace and boss fight when Kaneshiro exists.
Fuck his fight, I used harus triple shot on okumura once it was finally his turn.
Granted, Okumura can be easily blown through if you know what to do. But if you don't…you better get comfortable with those robots.
@@ProfessorGopher2030i mean it very easy if you know how to do but a 30 minutes remain is a stupid thing, even if you strategy but if time over ? I play in Hard Mode for the first play and it give me 💩 while take so long to fight all their robot.
the main good thing about this dungeon: it's music is FANTASTIC.
Good soundtrack for my gym workout
Nice. I might do that as well as a matter of fact...
i find it weird how a restaurant company is a dungeon
Well,if we're getting technical here, the guy was just using the food industry as a stepping stone to get into politics. So he didn't exactly care about his company anymore.
This is why the dungeon emotionally disturbed me so much. The analogies it uses can be applied strongly to real-world counterparts, try as I may not to dwell on it or on what world we live in >_< It's why I appreciated this game so much more, though.
Wendy's too She totally went Savage!
PrinceNakasuki sounds like someone needs a change of heart ;)
Well Okumura views the restaurant as a dungeon
Almost everyone hates this palace, but you can't deny that this soundtrack is straight fire
“The treasure is just up ahead!” Morgana said 7 hours before reaching the treasure.
Suddenly, this became Wild Guns... in outer space.
This is a good thing.
I should stop reading comments while sipping my coffee or my screen will pay for it.
Where'd you get the coffee, Leblanc?
I've heard this for 12 minutes and I AM NOT TIRED OF IT.
Playing through all this in Persona 5 Royal, I knew what to expect. I still kept falling for Morgana's "The treasure is just right past this door". Thank god the Will Seeds restore SP
Me when I play through the third palace: "Holy crap, I love this song!"
Me when I make it to the fifth palace: "This is coolest thing I've ever heard!!!"
*Rivers in the Desert is still my favorite track, but this theme really feels you're about to steal the ultimate treasure*
You forgot the sixth palace that shit not only slaps but has LYRICS
All I can imagine is a GIF of every party member rave dancing to this song.
Loved this dungeon and the theme feels like your in a rave.
I honestly think this track really fits with the palace. I like it.
Yuki Yuhi It really does!
once I start listening to this I don't think I can ever stop listening.
I thought this palace was gonna be absolute hell based on what I heard for so long, but it was pretty fun
It was the shortest, enemies were the same for all of it, so they weren't hard to deal with and the boss actually made me think for once in this game. Took me three tries, but felt like the most fun battle I had so far
Just beat Royal last week and okumura's boss fight went from a breeze, to making me want to take a bullet to the brain
I can relate. I had to grind 10 levels to make it through. At least Cognitive Haru was very easy
Okumura's fight is a complete joke if you know what to do. If you don't, it becomes the worst godforsaken thing ever programmed by a human being.
@@ProfessorGopher2030 Yeah! This fight feels like it was just meant to be taken in one way and only one way only. If you try to use any other strat you just can't get past this fight at all almost like most of the secret bosses in persona style. It doesn't help that the robots have higher health compared to the ones you fight before.
This was so dope that I jammed it out with this song when I first heard it!
Persona 5. The game with such an awesome soundtrack that even the weakest dungeon theme still rocks.
Okumura’s cognition on its way to form the Death Egg
did this dungeon in 1 day. SP adhesives are so helpful. Also get yourself a persona that has blessed attacks, you need them for the damn elephants.
Hate the palace, love the music
Awesome Persona 5 OST Sweatshop Extended Video.
"What will we name this theme for a Palace set in space and that is based of a fast food business tycoon."
Sweatshop.
"What are they putting old socks into the burger mix?"
Gotta meet the quota.
"You're obstructing business"
Do I speak for most people when I say, in P5R: *"Eff The Okumura Boss Fight!!"* ?
on new game, yes
I rage reseted my save save file cuz of him😡
fuck royal's okumura fight. genuinely fought him like 8 times before I beat him, that fight was asinine. IT WASN'T EVEN DIFFICULT MAN IT WAS JUST TEDIOUS AS FUCK.
Idk what you guys are talking about I won first try on hard
I got my brother to do it for me 😭
I will have 2 big bang burgers, a big bang burger large, a Saturn potato with extra dip, a moon burger, 2 earth burgers, one with cheese and a large soda
The ONLY Palace that actually had a challenge. Does not deserve the hate it gets
I'm a "Special" Boy I really enjoy this palace for what it is it’s extremely underrated because people come in super underprepared
From the creators of 3-hour mementos trips, now comes 8-hour Okumaras palace!
That Airlock part...
Actually, i wanted to go into the airlock part of the palace ever since i saw it in trailers.
It was the part of the game i waited for since beginning of playing it.
...I kinda loved it.
Morganna: The treasure is just up ahead
Me: (Throws Morganna over the side)
The higher-ups don't want you to know, but Thunderbird is the coolest demon in all of the persona / smt series
I saw everyone complaining about this palace before getting to it. When I finally got there, I was like "alright, let's see what everyone's complaining about"
And it wasn't bad at all. I enjoyed this palace and I find it way more memorable than Kaneshiro's and Futaba's.
The Palace itself isn't that bad at all. Granted, it can be a bit of a long haul, especially if you're not prepared. It's the boss fight, specifically in Royal, that tends to be the tipping point.
One of my favorite places. I really loved cyber punk space theme, robots, and future setting that was different from the others. Plus the music fits it very well and was a good challenge.
This palace was probably the most challenging in my opinion, i even got my first game over because of this palace
Game Over as in arrived at the Deadline
@@metalhopper0188 no dying
First dying? Easy mode,i think. Cuz 2nd boss was fucking imbalanced and you couldn't win it before you repeated that fight a lot.Okumura's Palace is hard af but it can't be place for the first death