In the race for Humanoid Robots the old dog shows off new tricks
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Its all about the hands.
So lucky to be still alive to witness some of this. Hopefully I am granted a few more years to own one
If you sleep well,do exercise and have a healthy lifestile you can live beyond 2050s if you were born in the 2000s tough,its sad tthat some people cant make it this far away...
'.....They're very pretty, very pretty Colonel...but can they fight!'
Atlas comes with the newest automatic mini-gun headshooting technology. AI operated rocket launchers are available as add-ons.
Oh, I hope not…
In my opinion it will come down to the hands. If they are to do delicate human tasks they will have to replicate the human hand, one of the most complex parts of a human and what together with our brains has helped humans become as dominant as we are. Don't underestimate the power of the opposable thumbs.
As in real life, some will need four hands…
One pair to hold you, the other to spank you. 🤣
Humanoid robot mma in 5 years or less. It'll be wild.
The important things are:
AI to make the robot independent & useful.
Dexterity of the hands.
Low production cost.
Suitable for mass production.
10 hour battery life (needs a low refresh rate) this is very difficult.
All of these are needed to be a meaningful comersial success.
Boston dynamics has none of these.
LOL you clearly have ZERO clue what you're talking about. They're literally developing batteries that run off salt, The next wave of batteries are going to 'solid state' batteries. They haven't even suggested the cost of production, Mass production isn't going to be an issue if they WANT them mass produced...which they won't. They will be made to order as tesla's robots are. Ai is making leaps an bounds, elons own AI is truely open source and one of the best out there. The new version of atlas has dexterity in its hands.
Remove head from rectum THEN type
The atlas bot had rubber nubs for hands and the hand clamps on their new guy look about as useful. The 10 hour battery requirement is arbitrary depending on the use case of the bot; if it can charge at work, no need for long range.
@@TheZoneTakesYou how are u commenting on the hands when you’ve not seen them operate xD you know what they say about ppl that assume
Wow BD said hold my beer!
BD (and many other) robots have a uncomfortable dystopian air about them. They're not something people are going to want to be around and for the most part are controlled via game controllers. They also generally move with a jerky, unpredictable movement. Looking at the BD (and other) videos, notice that even their "handlers" tend to avoid being near them in order to avoid injury. These are areas where Tesla's Optimus diverges from the norm.
These will be for commercial use years before they make it consumers.
@@samuelwilliams7331 Would you like to work next to these?
These are early versions. AI will eliminate the remote.
The mobility is really incredible, however, the hands are terrible and they shown no autonomous features.
Is Atlas still have to be programmed, it is still far behind!
A possible event where a lot of the Tesla community set each other up, and drove FSD in a huge fleet at the same time in a smaller town / limited area in a big city / at night. Then the world could open its eyes to how fantastic FSD is close to becoming 😍 Aren't you the man to create such a party Lars 😉
I know that recent AI is close to AGI. The neural networks learn a lot like humans do, and although it's different and more efficient in some ways, there are still things that have to be overcome, like will power, motivation, etc. It has things down like creativity and mimicry (the ability to copy something it sees or hears, etc.) already to a high degree. Because of the way neural networks work, there is no need to program a robot to do something. Take Tesla's full self driving for example. It was and is doing things that it wasn't programmed to do. It figured some things out on its own.
If they replace humans on jobs that nobody really wants- like working night-shift in the factory or hot, dirty, dangerous work…then I’m all for it…
That's never gonna happen.
AI is replacing writers, artists, musicians and all other forms of art so robots will replace whatever jobs their owners desire.
@@straighttalk2069well hopefully they bring more good than bad!
Hey UAW VW Union ! These are your replacements.
I’m addition to achieving useful and versatile autonomy first, Tesla also has a massive lead on manufacturability and scaling. Tesla will likely be far ahead on a truly general purpose bot, at an affordable price, and the other manufacturers will likely cash out by selling their companies to large global manufacturers who will still not be able to catch Tesla and will instead focus on niche commercial segments.
I’m down 40% on this stock. Talk about that man.
Better to not watch for a while.
The solution is to buy more 😂
@@EmpireEnglishSchool I actually thought about it.
@@richard_zanormous3648 it comes down by more than 50% each year
Take a look at the yearly highs and lows
Fantastic! So nimble, fast, and good looking. Now the only thing it needs is FSD not to get lost in the crowd, and naturally a sharp brain like Optimus, until then good luck. Only 4 years ago China had 500 EV co. today are down to 90 and disappearing fast. Same story will be with dummy robots. \\\\\\\\Great video Lars, Thanks.
Those robot tricks are freaky and will impede the mass market reach. Robot helpers, elderly care, will need something more human-like. in industrial applications and military applications... yes, that's a plus.
I think you want most people to be able to defeat a robot in a fight.
Tesla's Optimus seems cultured intellectual (like a general) taking it's time to think about and do things correctly.
Boston Dynamics new Atlas comes across as a foot solder designed to attack and kill.
I do remember Tesla saying it's intentionally not too powerful. I wonder where that was?
Hey thanks for the video. In answer to your question re if Atlas 2 is just programming, or real AI? Boston already announced a partnership with NVIDIA back in March, so I believe it's the latter. Note that Tesla is also an NVIDIA partner, but I believe thats only currently for training GPUs (eg H100).
'NVIDIA is building a comprehensive AI platform for leading humanoid robot companies such as 1X Technologies, Agility Robotics, Apptronik, Boston Dynamics, Figure AI, Fourier Intelligence, Sanctuary AI, Unitree Robotics and XPENG Robotics, among others'
Boston Dynamic is using Intels platform as all but Tesla are.
google nexus one came out in 2010. Apple was early to the game by a mile because they already made small computers with built in screens. I think boston dynamics is more of the nokia of the smartphone race than apple. Their focus on acrobatics and stability will contribute greatly to optimus performance just as all market competitors strengthen each other. We all benefit if the exorcist bot is dope. Kung fu robots is just around the corner
Isn't it funny how we hear the same "The Competition is coming!" but from companies that never did anything in mass production and use every component from outside sources.... and have no software ....
The big problem for Boston will be Cost. That robot will cost 10x over Tesla's. Word.
I worked with 4 AI projects and to be honest, the biggest issue is the people developing and training it. Best way i can put it is, when it get to people that can actually train it to its potential, it's like training a 40yo Aristotelian philosophy. Its so polluted that even though it is capable, it is impossible. Elon most likely won't make the same mistake. 💯
The electric version of atlas? Does that mean there was a gas version??!! 😂😂
I believe BD did start with a Gas Robot.
Then their last Atlas mobility was hydraulic..
Wow, give that thing some rollaids or gasX!!😂
Ha ha ha hydrogen ?
Is it real or movie magic 😅😅😅😅
Do parts come from Hyundai?
Nooooooooo don’t retire th backflipping party trick
Truth be told, when Tesla announced it MOST people (including me) did laugh and think why would they pivot in that direction… and now they don’t…
Admitting you have no vision takes courage.
@@paintedpony2935 He now has it.
Isn't bd owned by Hyundai now? 🤔
Do a lot of these robot vids look computer generated or is it just me? 2024 ai robotics stock pump?
I wonder at what point we can have human-looking robots ala Data from Star Trek or Westworld?
They have plenty of them in Japan. Just sesarch in youtube.
I really am dissappinted that atlas is not hydraulic anymore. At the same time i wonder why in the world they did it that way. Have electric motors really got that much better or did they just spend way more money on a system that was overly complicated? Any input?
Prototypes are easy
I'd love to see Elon meeting his robot team just after he'd seen the new Atlas.... I bet there was some serious words spoken.
Can't see any competition there yet. BD still pre-programme their bots for sequenced movements and look very janky. After 30 years of development do they have a single customer yet?
Phillip.
@@philliptemple4534 I want Tesla to be regarded as the go-to long term but the BD bot is impressive given it's the starter from them in this form. It's impressive and I'd guess Elon would say so too. Having said that, they are both different and Optimus is more "humanlike" which is obviously a selling point. A great future anyway as there is tons of room for all these bots.
@@Cybertruck1000 The BD bots have always been very expensive but impressive. IMHO BD is aiming at military/police applications. Tesla is going for the consumer / factory market. I personally don't see much overlap between the two.
Phillip.
I doubt the energy efficiency and the amount of practical AI software .. so far Boston Dynamic has done wonders with remote controlled robots and controlled produced videos... Not many videos come from journalists....
The walking ability of the new Boston Dynamics bot is amazing. Tesla will have to up their game.
Walking is near the bottom of useful abilities. Some bot's have wheels that are very useful.
Tesla's Optimus has incredible dexterity with it's human like fingers which means in a world designed for humans it should fit right in.
Engineers disagree with you.
We will see when the cake is baked.
@@davidbeppler3032
Not it is not. Needs to be programed to do such things. In a manufacturing world designed for humas operations, all those extra degrees of freedon are useless. Also why move the head if 360° vision is available with a lot less parts and cheaper than moving the head? Flat feet to walk make unnatural walking, maybe good in a manufacturing world but not in the real outside world, as Optimus will be most used.
Computer generated prototypes are easy
The atlas 2 doesn't really need a brain of its own. That's why it has antennas. Near future factories will be built around robot architecture and the most efficient way to utilize it. One of those ways will be by connecting to mainframe and avoiding a need for individual robots to have ai. Robots have been working in industry for decades. This isn't really that new. One just killed a guy at a Tesla factory not long ago. They just haven't been able to walk around.
Tesla, "Let's build a robot that can do work and is safe, that any able bodied human can defeat."
Boston Dynamics, "Let's build a superbot that can kill all the humans!"
yeah but the Boston robot is working of code as no way did it learn that by looking at a human and how would twisting be used in the real world
Ask Chubby Checker.
EV Lars ✔️🖖🌎 Jetsons here we come! Should be fun fun!🤖👾
Don't laugh at tesla more things happen behind scenes will surprise u
by 2025 optimus will be able to thread a needle. and elon can mass produce these buggers for 18k. can any other company say that? i doubt it
Pulling numbers from your rear isn’t relevant to reality.
@@singed8853 fine dont get in. Just remember, you were told.
See the antena? It will suply energy, and program features. Of course it does not have AI. Why turn the head when you can have 360 degree vision? Just like its predecessor built for a lot of tricks. Un less you desing the manufacturing plant for all that inhuman mobility it can not be used at its 100% potential. It will be used on manufacturing plants designed for humans to operate, thus those freedom of movement does not have any utility at all. It also has "flat foots". Worse feature is the use of "grip hands". Tesla Optimus made all hads similar toi those obsolete
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"Kicked off. by Tesla?" You gotta be kidding. It was an embarrassment when Elon showed off a man dressed like a robot and started dancing like Atlas. The Tesla robot can still barely walk independently while Boston Dynamics has been making amazing commercial robots for years. Spot and Stretch. Boston is now showing Tesla how it's done.
Yeah, at the end it’s the Robot Company that can make profit that wins.
That was a woman dancing in a robot suit. Rumours are, it was Grimes, but I'm not sure if the identity was ever confirmed.
Optimus 2 is eerily similar to humans in its movement. But I prefer the inhuman range of motion that Boston Dynamics have showcasedin Atlas 2. Optimus 2 walks like it has pooped its pants. Atlas 2 walks with "confidence". Mintee looks cheap and drunk! UBTechs robot looks rubbish in its movement, right? Like an OAP!
I will disagree with Mr. Fan. Superhumanoid robots are a waste because the world around us is engineered for just human capabilities. In similar vain, not putting all the extra batteries into the Cybertruck if not needed. It’s overkill with zero viability in the current time. Just as Lars pointed out with the smartphone timing debut. BD might very well produce this robot but it will extremely niche and not useful in a human world. As was old atlas.
Superhuman robots will have many uses, such as greatly improved productivity in factories and other workplaces, along with military, law enforcement, and security applications.
So far reality proves your theory wrong. Non humanoid robots and machines are already extensively used because they are fit for purpose whereas humans are stuck with the form they are born with.
@@singed8853 Yes, however we are discussing a humanoid form factor. Humans still, for the moment, occupy a grand portion of a non-humanoid robot environment so the “hypothesis” still holds. At present, super humanoid robots are not feasible because there aren’t any super human work to replace. The whole purpose of humanoid robots is to remove humans from situations of harm or tedious repetitive actions.
@@jamespaul2587 If a humanoid robot doesn’t need to; eat, sleep, take breaks, go home and feed the kids, worry about healthcare or mortgages, etc. - how great would the factories productivity be? And that’s just with regular robots, forget the super part. Hypothetical for ya - if every human were born and raised scientifically, instead of with theology as is currently done, would there truly be a need for brut force robots? When was the last time, or the first time for that matter, a scientist gunned down another scientist because their textbooks differ? How many people died, prosecuted and imprisoned or even received a black eye when Pluto was reclassified? When the Trump administration canceled the Europa missions, how many JPL employees stormed the capital demanding hypothetical justice. And to be fair; when the Obama admin canceled the Constellation program, how many combined NASA engineers called for and executed a civil war? Something to think about.
I keep reliving Elon's Terminator wobbling around doing stupid tricks like folding clothes
Elon thought that was something fantastic
And Elon Fan Boys clap like seals for the Joe Biden impersonator.
Then Boston Dynamics released their new robot, which is truly a Terminator.
and TSLA implodes even more
Good grief, Elon is so outmatched.
Maybe Elon needs a Participation Trophy?
The important things are:
AI to make the robot independent & useful.
Dexterity of the hands.
Low production cost.
Suitable for mass production.
10 hour battery life (needs a low refresh rate) very difficult.
All of these are needed to be a meaningful comersial success.
Boston dynamics has none of these.
I'm not an Elon fan but think the folding of the clothes was incredibly dextrous and showing the amazing possibilities of what is to come.
You are not nearly as bright as you think you are.
@@whowhy9023 None of the above means anything unless
you match it to the White Paper that defines the robot.
and that gets back to the First Principles of any robot.
The First Principle of any robot:
Hands that do work
How many hands? 2 - 4 should do it
Motion - anything that will allow the hands to get to a job that needs to be done
legs maybe - track locomotion maybe - tentacle motion maybe - hundreds of ways to move the hands around
Spacial navigation - LIDAR maps out the area and IDs everything found
Vision - 360-degree - depth perception is done with LIDAR
I'll stop there - listing random things about a robot means little
but that's the Elon way of doing things - throw crap at the wall and see what sticks
It really doesn’t matter who creates the first genuine synthetic life form as the end result will be the same i.e. we are the biological boot loader for synthetic life :-)
It seems very over engineered. for robots to display humans as workers. You don’t need the body to do all that configure and contortion. It’s just extra money spent on things that don’t actually make it more useful. B dynamic is not serious about MASS producing a bot