*Content:* 0:00 - Intro 0:16 - Basics 1:36 - Baby Jump 3:02 - Regular Stroke ---- 3:27 stance ---- 4:23 side-arm stroke ---- 4:55 bridge ---- 6:03 stroke technique ---- 6:42 aiming ---- 7:24 jump massé ---- 8:35 common errors 8:54 - Dart Stroke ---- 9:52 grip ---- 10:10 visual alignment ---- 11:15 stroke technique ---- 11:40 stance 12:05 - CB Control 13:37 - Elevation, Speed, and Cut Effects ---- 13:54 speed effects ---- 14:18 elevation effects ---- 14:48 tip contact point ---- 15:19 cut angle effects 16:23 - Practice Advice 17:41 - Wrap Up ---- 17:50 Allen Iverson meme ---- 18:02 shot montage *Supporting Resources:* - jump shot resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/ - jump cue: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/jump/ - elevated shot technique: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/elevation/ - vision center alignment: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/eyes/vision-center/ - jump shot handout: billiards.colostate.edu/resource_files/jump_shot.pdf - massé shot aiming system: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/masse/aiming/ *Source Videos for Clips Used:* - collection of great pool shots: billiards.colostate.edu/videos/pool-shots/ - “How to Play Pool - Top 10 POOL SHOTS Every Player Must Know!!!” video: ruclips.net/video/HqAb4mWEkps/видео.html - “Pool and billiards jump shot drills for learning how to jump over a ball” video: ruclips.net/video/u5Q7NinEchs/видео.html - “HSV B.37 - jump shot over-cut effect and examples” video: ruclips.net/video/IlQIzSr5Hxw/видео.html - “Pool stun/draw/follow jump shots at various cue elevations” video: ruclips.net/video/cNxxFdxBIW4/видео.html - “HSV B.19 - highly elevated cue jump shots” video: ruclips.net/video/LnCG_4Sa1ms/видео.html - “Top 25 BEST POOL SHOTS of All Time” video: ruclips.net/video/iqTCHfJ5Dvs/видео.html - “Fun, Interesting, and AMAZING POOL SHOTS” video: ruclips.net/video/lJ2zFPPXQh8/видео.html - “How to Curve an Object Ball” video: ruclips.net/video/iReuQJB2Ztw/видео.html - “HSV B.4 - object ball jump shot” video: ruclips.net/video/Vf2t0loTE_Y/видео.html - “Using the back of a pocket to beat a scratch” video: ruclips.net/video/eMItO8fUxrM/видео.html - “TOP 10 MOST FAMOUS POOL SHOTS OF ALL TIME … And How to Shoot Them” video: ruclips.net/video/a-mAxW0k5Qk/видео.html - “More MOST FAMOUS POOL SHOTS of All Time … And How to Shoot Them” video: ruclips.net/video/S9eOrxwk7H4/видео.html - “Top 10 WILD and CRAZY POOL SHOTS of All Time” video: ruclips.net/video/JNrBg4mCVAs/видео.html - “Top 10 Creative Billiards Bridge Options” video: ruclips.net/video/zWukirAlb4Y/видео.html - “Top 10 BEST SAFETIES of All Time … And How to Shoot Them” video: ruclips.net/video/Rhv3X9uFEYM/видео.html
This is the most detailed instruction on jumping I have seen or read about yet. This video highlights a lot more helpful tips in comparison to your earlier jump video. I really enjoyed the extra detail on what not to do and the correct stroke technique. Dr. Dave, you're the man! You have gave me a shortcut of YEARS of experience through your book and videos. Thank you.
Easily the best Jump-Shot tutorial I've ever seen. I'm known as a good jump shot player myself in my area. People come ask me on how to do jump shots all the time. I'm going to recommend they used this video as there #1 go to on how to learn the jump shot for themselves from now on...
As someone that's played for almost 25 years, this is EASILY the best jump shot tutorial ever made by a mile. Thank you for the time, effort and description you put in this video.
I've watched a lot of your videos, and my game has rapidly improved. Today I almost won a five-game set against an "APA Six" (and cool guy) who had been practicing for hours before I arrived at the pool hall. It came down to the eight ball in game five, and I blew it (just barely), but oh well - next time! Four months ago I would have had virtually no chance winning a single game against a skilled player, but now I'm starting to give good players some trouble, and your excellent instructional videos have really helped me improve my game. Thanks man!
Hands down THE BEST jump shot tutorial video I have ever seen. I’ve always struggled with jump shots. I like how you take the time to explain all kinds of techniques of jumping. New subbie! I’m going to save this video and refer back to it. Thanks Doctor Dave! ❤
Another exhaustive instructional video. Well done! I might add that a specialty jump cue like the McDermott Dr. Popper and good technique can let you make seemingly impossible shots. I have video on my phone of me jumping over a obstacle ball that is a little more than a toothpick's width away. Granted, in a game there are usually better options, but I just wanted to see the limits of my jump cue.
Thanks. FYI, those near vertical jumps are usually double-hit fouls. The only way to send the CB forward is with a secondary hit from the ferrule or shaft.
Just want to add something to this, as well: Most Coin-op (bar) tables have oversized cue balls… those are hard to jump and not worth the space to jump the cue ball. Another aspect is the cloth: If the cloth is a thick, slow, woolen cloth, you can use a regular cue and jump the CB with ease. The thin, fast, worsen cloths are difficult to jump the rock because they do not provide a divet like the woolen cloths. Other than so, everything Dr. Dave says is absolutely spot on!
You make a good point about the oversized balls, but are you sure that most coin-op tables have oversized cue balls? I thought that was only true of old pool tables - the patent for magnetic cue balls is from 1966, and there have been advancements since then as well. I don't know if I've ever seen an oversized cue ball, and I go to quite a few different places to shoot pool (although your comment reminds me that I should always check). Whether magnetic cue balls are harder to jump is a different question that I don't know the answer to.
The ONLY two things I focus on when jumping…the aim point and making a good stroke THROUGH the cue ball. Keep your eye ON the cue ball through the stroke. If that sounds like any other shot, you’re right. Once you feel comfortable with the jump, then follow, draw, or getting position after the jump will almost come naturally. Feel it out. It’s just another shot that is made to sound difficult but is totally attainable. Thanks Dr. Dave. Great video.
Not a jump pro, but I'm pretty sure you don't have to stroke thru the cue like a masse shot. I just pop it like a quick jab and it works fine. Watch the dart technique, is he hitting the cloth?
@@lonoster8501 Is he hitting the cloth while darting it? Yes. Yes, he is. Do you only stroke through the ball on masse shots? Stroking through the ball should be for every shot. What are you even talking about? You, yourself, don’t have to hit it correctly but it’d probably help.
Thank you so much for this video! I have no problem jumping long jumps, and even full ball jumps about 3 balls width apart. But once it gets less than that, I have lots of trouble. This info can really help me fix that with some practice! Love how you break down the art of pool into a more exact science
Check out the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/cue-elevation/ and here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/highly-elevated/ Some of the other stuff here might help also: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/technique/ Enjoy, and good luck!
Very informative video Dr. DAVE. The one thing you might want to mention is when jumping off of a cloth it makes it easier to jump. Ball jumps quicker and higher.
Good point. I should have mentioned that. The extra cloth thickness does make jumps a little easier (especially if the table's cloth is worn and thin).
Very informative! I too quickly learned how important an extra piece of cloth on the table is while practicing! All in all, you covered this part of the game very well! I always enjoy watching your super slow motion clips 👍🏻
The extra cloth on the table is indeed a great idea. I've been afraid to attempt jump shots at all, but I assume the occasional shot in play doesn't usually damage the cloth?
I really appreciate the time and effort for this, I've been looking for a detailed one for a while. Bad shoulders forces me to do dart I can't stand the pain for the regular one
@@inabitovapikle You can use any kind of cloth, but a piece from a used pool table cloth is recommended. You can get a piece from anybody you know that owns a table (and has had the cloth changed). You can also ask a local pool hall. If they don’t have any, you can ask when they plan to change the cloths and show up to cut some pieces.
Well like normal Dr. Dave instructional Video was great like always.♥️ Dr. Dave coved jumping, how to do it correct, and mistakes new people to jumping can & do make. So if you want to jump master, Practice wha was demonstrated. Great Video.👍👍👍👍👍
WOW Really nice You make it look so easy. I tried it a few times in my life. Only with my regular plain queue which had a medium to hard tip. No luck for me. I never stuck with it. As far is jumping went. I worked more at cue ball position. 😅. But father time finally caught up to me. Keith
Another information for me on how i will fine tune my jumpshot. I both use the regular jump shot and the dart shot when the cb is very close to another ball.. thanks dave
Thorough as anyone could want. Lol I am a pool noob by any measurement but once I was shooting the 8 ball last for the win and my opponent had a large cluster of balls in front of the 8 so I called the pocket that it was sitting in front of and sort of winged a jumping shot over the cluster of balls and lo and behold it worked. Felt like a BS genius 🤣 Now I have sharpened my knowledge for the next time I need it 😂
Pfft!! If The Magician had no use for a jump stroke, then neither do I! :) Just kidding. Yet another excellent video. Some practice time coming up over this weekend. Thanks, Dr.Dave, as always!
LOL - I like that you're kidding, since I hear people say that all the time. I'm guessing that the reason Efren doesn't shoot many jump shots is because he isn't very good at that shot.
@@myblacklab7 Efren is not good at jumping; but when you kick as well as him, there is really not much need or incentive to practice the jump. Having said that, even Efren could benefit from having an effective jump shot (with certain shots).
@@martinparker9249 The official international rules of 8-ball are the WPA World Standardized Rules, which allow a legal jump shot. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
Being able to jump out of a safety is a great tool. Being able to make the object ball with a jump shot is very deflating to one's opponent! Just be aware you will be turning the CB loose. I've had a few good jump shots result in scratches, in my time.
Well your video was a very good lesson to learn I just couldn't figure out how to do a jump shot until I watched your video & mini clips pool game app doesn't offer jump shot because of it's game programming code only offers spin shots, I guess it will take a while for game developers & game designers to learn more about how to make a jump shot work with a bit more practice & experience.
Thank's again Dr.Dave, 50% of my game I learn from your videos and this chanell..another great video🔝🔝 Are you maybe thinking about making video like this for masse shot? That would be awesome 😁. Share the knowledge✌
You’re welcome. I’m glad to hear it. FYI, I already have lots of good masse videos under the different categories here! billiards.colostate.edu/faq/masse/ Enjoy!
So, I was playing Persona 5 Royal, in which one of the side activities you can do is billiards... at one point, the MC does a jump shot, and that got me curious as to how it works, and that's how I found this video. With how you explained it, I feel like it's something even I could do now, so thank you!
Great video Dave thank you. In the grip segment tho your jump cue has seen its fair share of play. Looks like how my pencils in school would look during test time 😊
Well done video that should be very helpful to a lot of players but I HATE jump cues. Maybe I'm just a dinosaur but I think if you want to jump you should learn to do it with your playing cue or if the situation dictates it learn to jump with your shaft. I call jump cues "gimmick sticks". Either way when you practice I would suggest spending ample time on different cut shots from various distances to fine tune your aiming. Again, well done Dave.
This has been so helpful, Dr. Dave! I’ve been looking for resources around this and was wondering if using SAWS works well for jump shots as well. Thanks Dr. Dave!
@@DrDaveBilliards yes, I bought the Vimeo SAWS resource and it has been very helpful. I’m also familiar with the Coriolis method. But framed another way, is there a system for aiming with side spin / Masse for jump shots? Or is it just a feel / intuition approach?
Since my fingers aren't very long I don't really jump often, since I can't generate enough speed. I think I will come back again to this video when I'm 15 years old, when my fingers probably might be longer. For now I will stick to kicking. Great video by the way Dr. Dave👍
@@soriano278 Sounds like a good plan. You could also try jumping from the rail first, starting with small jumps over just a part of a ball (or a chalk).
I am a professional instructor, not a professional player, so I don’t play in many tournaments. The biggest I enter on occasion is the VNEA tournament in Vegas.
I mastered the scoop jump shot from since I was little unfortunately, found out they were illegal right before I was about to start my first pool league. This video was very informative and helped me understand how to do proper jump shots, thank you!
Could you elaborate more on the side arm stroke technique? I can consistently jump the ball with both underhand and side arm, but the aiming is tough. I prefer to learn the side arm since I’m short and it’s more versatile for me.
Same for me, I'm practicing side-arm stroke right now and having trouble with the aiming, trying to correct my stroke since I usually have unintentional sidespin which causes the cue ball to be curved off the aim-line. Are there any tips for this Doc?
@@npt22695 Sorry, but the only advice I have (other than what is in the video) is to keep your head, body, shoulder, and elbow as still as possible during the stroke.
@@DrDaveBilliards thanks Doc, I think there's something with the stance, I notice the pros that they usually step out of the aim-line. Would be great if you consider making a video about this technique alone? I see many pros using this instead of the other techniques. I believe it would be interesting since most tutorials on RUclips are all about underhand and dart stroke.
Dr. Dave: I'm hopeless when it comes to jumping the cue ball. The cue ball hardly leaves the surface. Thanks for the video. I'm hoping I can finally get it!!
@@DrDaveBilliards I actually hit several successful jump shots today! I had been setting mu cue at too steep an angle. I probably had the cue at 60 degrees instead of 45 degrees before this change. I didn't hit the shots online, but at least the cue ball left the table and jumped over the ball blocking my line.
Thanks. I'm glad you thought so. FYI, a lot more jump shot help and advice can be found under the various topics here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/ Enjoy!
Thanks Dr Dave, I really did enjoy this video, and I think I'll be paying a lot more attention to your channel going forward. Anyone can see that you're very talented 👍
@@HikeColorado Thanks again. I already have close to 500 videos posted, so you have some good binge-watching "homework" ahead of you: ruclips.net/user/DrDaveBilliardsvideos
@Dr. Dave I think the better shot at the 8 ball at 8:17 would be the one rail kick off the top short rail but, in the context of this video, the masse is the good option.
I will never forget what I went to this tournament one time Johnny Archer was there Tony Ellen. And others. I was watching Tony Ellen to me he was very intimidating. He said to me I'll give you 6789 for $50 a game. NO KIDDING. I Had to pass. No Bullshit Johnny Archer won the tournament that night for 10 grand. He had a nice seven rack run. Keith
@@DrDaveBilliards your methods are easy to follow. I just returned to playing pool seriously after 15 years... Lot to catch up and too many errors to fix 😅
@@DrDaveBilliardslol sweeeeeet. Ex-Physics major, switched to comp sci, but your videos stick with me the most. I owe many victories to your lectures and explanations. Come to Chicago and play some games with me and my crew! My door is always open for you, Professor. Kinetics is King!!!!
I really like your videos. I've played at a pretty high level for decades, but I never learned to jump. Now is the time. I've noticed that you, and other pros, talk about center ball. What I'm noticing is that it is just slightly below center. I made a few measurements, yes Im a geek, on the picture of where you set-up, and others who set-up, for center ball, and it seems pretty consistent that it is slightly below. Could you confirm that?
I'm going to be practicing this week using the extra cloth as you recommended in this video. Does that have any effect on the jump? Such as, making it easier or more difficult to jump?
Hi DrDave, I wonder why it’s illegal to jump shot by scoop the cue ball? Because of miscue or double hit or what? Do you have a slow motion video to demo the case?
… probably because it is too easy and it involves a miscue and secondary contact or the tip hitting the CB while in contact with the table. For super slow motion videos, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/scoop/
What are the implications of jump shots against the new-fangled slab glass surfaces (faced with conventional felt, of course). I´ve seen aggressive jump shots done on these surfaces, and no concern for damage shown -- but have you _seen_ what happens when tempered glass shatters?! _Oh my God!_
Thank you! This is a fantastic video. For the wrist snap I’m seeing (maybe snap is too harsh a word but maybe you know what I mean), this is done with left to right deviation and not any sort of flexion/extension correct? I guess that just comes with a loose and relaxed wrist. And also, is this prominent in good action draw/follow shots? Or do you ideally not want to deviate the wrist when performing these? I know I’ve seen SVB break with a wrist swing back towards the ulnar side, and then forward towards the radial side, what place does this have in more “normal” shots? Thanks Dr. Dave!!
In general, it is not recommended to snap the wrist. it should instead be relaxed and "along for the ride." For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stroke/wrist/
Great video, Dr. Dave! With the dart stroke, is it okay to have both the index finger and middle finger on the top of the cue rather than just the index cue? Would that cause any issues or is that more preference? Thank you!!
I did some follow up research and see folks like Florian and others use two fingers on top, so seems to be preference / comfort. I seem to have a bit more control when using the two fingers on top so I’ll try to master that (unless there is a benefit of only using one finger there!) - thanks again Dr. Dave!!
@@philipv.mcharris5010 As I discuss and demonstrate in the video, having the middle finger underneath is better for most people to prevent the cue from twisting due to the fingers not being in the same plane perpendicular to the cue.
@@DrDaveBilliards ah I see. I thought that just meant to have all the fingers in the same area on the cue as you say. I have been practicing with that in mind, but with my ring finger where my middle finger would be and the thumb and index being in the same area. But I guess the added finger on top even if they are all in the same area can cause twisting? I’ll keep this in mind - thanks, Dr. Dave!
@@philipv.mcharris5010 Regardless of how you position your fingers, it is best to have them all touching the cue in the same plane (not just in the “same area”).
Thanks Bob. This one did take a lot more work than normal, but I think it was worth it. I sure got lots of good jump practice. It won't help my sucky straight-pool game, but it should help me strike more fear in the hearts of my 8-ball league opponents!
I need to learn this.. I’m a pretty new player and I had to kick 8 times in my match last night most of them were jumpable for sure.. ended up fouling 5 times smh
The jump shot is an extremely important defensive and offensive weapon in modern pool. And once you learn the technique, it is very reliable. If you want more help, see the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/technique/
@@DrDaveBilliards thank you! I just went to practice at the pool hall. I’m getting it over the balls and making contact at least. Going to take a while to develop control and accuracy.
… when I invent a time machine and go back in time to attempt to become a pro player instead of a professional instructor. But I like the path I chose. Attempting to be a pro player can be a tough life. It takes many things to become a top pro player: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/advice/pro/
@@DrDaveBilliards I always use the dart stroke, I am very uncomfortable with the other stroke it just doesn't feel right. But I think I should practice this more, I just don't like jumping a lot in the pool hall (I do use a piece of scrap cloth though to protect the table)
Gonna learn this before I buy a table that I didn't find at the side of the road. One of my huskies loves to jump up and sleep on my table , I'll retire it as the dogs bed 😂
I should save this video for my couple friends I play with cause they only know how to shovel it I showed them how and let them use my jumper but couldn’t do it meanwhile I can do it with a beat up house cue
I have jumping the ball down but I often over jump the ball and if I don’t give it enough power I don’t get over the ball I’m not sure what I need to do.
I don't think it is bouncing off the table, at least primarily. I think if you do the force vector diagram you will see what it really happening (or just think about it for a second), at least as the first order effect, if I am right. I think you can negate any rotational aspects, for a first estimate. I would certainly expect the cloth to be compressed, obviously, but if you devise a good experiment to force the ball into the cloth at the kinds of downward forces generated in a jump shot (just measure them) and then release it 'instantaneously', you will find it will move very little, not remotely what you can do jumping. Just my take. I've heard this bounce stuff forever, but I don't buy it, not without some properly generated empiracle proof, anyway. Also, I would think that the cue ball would react very differently, if it were actually bouncing, with and without the practice cloth. In layman's terms, I think you are effectively pinch/squirting it off the table. I was really hoping you weren't advocating that duck walk on the aiming to jump position rise. I can just see the ribbing resulting from that. You came through, yet again. Interesting cushion bridge, I will try that. I'll try the jump position set, down to aim point, and back up again. That looks like it would work well, as it doesn't require any positional resets up high. Great idea. And yeah, offset tip on a high jump and the squirt part, on a longer shot especially, is almost inconsequential. A jump masse, LOL, I can't even execute the damned things well when I they are almost totally on the cloth. And yes, I looked at your (actually the) system, which helped some. Maybe this vid will help. I would like to find a scrap piece of cloth before I practice several shots on the hall tables though. Got to catch the table mechanic. Feel free to give me a grade, just be nice about it. :-)
You can have your own opinion, but the physics is clear (based on high-speed video analysis, which you can find on my website). You don't have to buy it, but it is true ... the CB bounces off the slate, just as it does if you throw the CB down on the table at an angle, and just like it does on each hop during a jump shot.
Soo i can basically do basic jump shots but id like to start trying to lear the tough ones inside 10 inches witch i cant do yet, i have a duffern jump/break and im looking to go with a preditor would i be fine with a preditor jump break or does a jump only cue make a big difference, i dont care how well it breakz i can make a break work with a broom lol id like something that will be a usefull jumping tool though but it would be nice to habe both in one if its just as effective. But also is the 14mm tip thhat much better than a 13mm tip? Or can both be effective and if the jump one cue is that much better is it mainly because of the shaft?
It happens often with jump shots anytime you don't hit perfectly on the vertical centerline of the CB. This is the first time I've discussed or demonstrated it in video. I haven't seen it elsewhere, but I'm sure somebody must have done it before.
@@caseydahl1952 Agreed. There would almost always be a better option, unless you are confident with the jump masse (because you have practiced it), in which case it might be a good choice.
Hi Dr Dave. I am rewatching some of your videos on aspects of the game which I really need to work at. For me jump shots most definitely fall into that category as no matter what I try I just can't master the skill. I think this it partly due to me being a snooker player for most of my life as it isn't a transferable skill due to jumps being illegal in that game. And partly because i am subconsciously paranoid about ripping the cloth so i am not properly committing to the jump. Just out of interest, how likely is it to rip or damage the cloth whilst playing jump shots?. The answer to that could possibly make the difference between me mastering the jump or not. I have a 3 piece jump cue so I would very much like to master the skill and get over this mental block that I seem to have, especially if im stressing about something which is unlike to occur. Also, do you use a different type of chalk on your jump cue than you do on your playing cue?. The reason I ask this is because there aren't any visible chalk marks on the cloth when you show the dents. Personally I use Taom Pyro on my playing cue but that doesn't stick so good to the phenolic tip on my jump cue so I use triangle chalk on that which is softer and leaves visable marks.
I don't like Taom on my jump and break cues. I use Master chalk for that. Taom doesn't stick well enough for me on the phenolic tips. Concerning cloth damage, they only real risk is muscling the shot and driving the tip into the cloth with a lot of force. With proper and relaxed technique, this isn't a concern whatsoever. If you want more advice see the other resources here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/technique/
Hey Dave, thanks for the great video. I've got the dart stroke pretty good but when I use a regular jump stroke, I often get micro tears in my cloth (couple broken threads). It's simonis 860 cloth and I have the jacoby jumper. I use a piece of felt when I practice jumping but I would be hesitant to attempt a jump on any other table for fear of damaging cloth. Any tips for this?
If the regular stroke is causing more cloth damage than the dart stroke, you are probably muscling it or scooping under ball or just using a lot more speed.
Set up balls against the rail and shoot into the side pocket, because you're against the rail, you can't scoop under the ball and if your ripping the cloth, you are scooping. Just practice over and over like that until it becomes habit and eventually you'll stop doing that. Jumping you're not shooting thru like a masse shot. I do masse shots all the time and I've never ripped cloth, do you know why? Think about the angle the tip is at, if you're hitting down full tip pretty flat, you'll never rip the cloth. I do full masse coming back, curve shots, off the rail and have for many years every time I play and again, never ripped cloth and don't use a cloth BUT SHOULD. I never used a jump cue. Honestly, I always thought they were people that couldn't masse and couldn't kick. Yea, so I wish I would have bought one a long time ago. I was dead wrong. Another great weapon
It is not a foul to hit a jump shot with backspin. It is only a foul if you scoop the ball with a double hit or table assist. For more info and lots of demos, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/scoop/
Even if this is a video from 1 year ago, i just saw you're still answering to new comments (very commendable), so here I am. I started training 1-2 times a week by myself in april and i want to start playing on the lower level Championship i have in my country at the end of September, so i wanted to train more and learn new things. How long does it take to learn how to jump, in your opinion? Obviously not to master it but just to use it as a last chance shot😂
If you follow all the advice and practice everything in this video, and you have a decent jump cue, it shouldn't take long at all. Some people can learn in one practice session (with good instruction). Others might take several, assuming they identify and learn from their mistakes (based on the advice in the video).
Update: i just bought a break & jump cue and i went to the table to try it... after giving a rewatch to this video, i made a jump at first try. I'll train to learn also the dart stroke and the side-arm (didn't work at first, but i know they can be helpful in the future). Again thanks for sharing your knowledge, i think it means a lot and is very helpful for a lot of people! @@DrDaveBilliards
@@AndreBolo14 Awesome. FYI, if you want more help with the sidearm stroke, see my "JUMP SHOT Stance, Bridge, and Stroke Variations Useful to Know" video: ruclips.net/video/fOaQDec3KD4/видео.html Enjoy!
I wanted to know one 8 ball rules that i shot 8 ball and 8 ball stop very close to pocket almost pot then opponent play a shot on his ball and 8 ball is down on pocket with out any touch then what next I will win or 8 ball again stood near the pocket or somewhere
A ball that falls into a pocket on its own is replaced in the position it was before it fell. FYI, answers to all rules questions can be found in the videos, handouts, and links here: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
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*Content:*
0:00 - Intro
0:16 - Basics
1:36 - Baby Jump
3:02 - Regular Stroke
---- 3:27 stance
---- 4:23 side-arm stroke
---- 4:55 bridge
---- 6:03 stroke technique
---- 6:42 aiming
---- 7:24 jump massé
---- 8:35 common errors
8:54 - Dart Stroke
---- 9:52 grip
---- 10:10 visual alignment
---- 11:15 stroke technique
---- 11:40 stance
12:05 - CB Control
13:37 - Elevation, Speed, and Cut Effects
---- 13:54 speed effects
---- 14:18 elevation effects
---- 14:48 tip contact point
---- 15:19 cut angle effects
16:23 - Practice Advice
17:41 - Wrap Up
---- 17:50 Allen Iverson meme
---- 18:02 shot montage
*Supporting Resources:*
- jump shot resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/
- jump cue: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/jump/
- elevated shot technique: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/elevation/
- vision center alignment: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/eyes/vision-center/
- jump shot handout: billiards.colostate.edu/resource_files/jump_shot.pdf
- massé shot aiming system: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/masse/aiming/
*Source Videos for Clips Used:*
- collection of great pool shots: billiards.colostate.edu/videos/pool-shots/
- “How to Play Pool - Top 10 POOL SHOTS Every Player Must Know!!!” video: ruclips.net/video/HqAb4mWEkps/видео.html
- “Pool and billiards jump shot drills for learning how to jump over a ball” video: ruclips.net/video/u5Q7NinEchs/видео.html
- “HSV B.37 - jump shot over-cut effect and examples” video: ruclips.net/video/IlQIzSr5Hxw/видео.html
- “Pool stun/draw/follow jump shots at various cue elevations” video: ruclips.net/video/cNxxFdxBIW4/видео.html
- “HSV B.19 - highly elevated cue jump shots” video: ruclips.net/video/LnCG_4Sa1ms/видео.html
- “Top 25 BEST POOL SHOTS of All Time” video: ruclips.net/video/iqTCHfJ5Dvs/видео.html
- “Fun, Interesting, and AMAZING POOL SHOTS” video: ruclips.net/video/lJ2zFPPXQh8/видео.html
- “How to Curve an Object Ball” video: ruclips.net/video/iReuQJB2Ztw/видео.html
- “HSV B.4 - object ball jump shot” video: ruclips.net/video/Vf2t0loTE_Y/видео.html
- “Using the back of a pocket to beat a scratch” video: ruclips.net/video/eMItO8fUxrM/видео.html
- “TOP 10 MOST FAMOUS POOL SHOTS OF ALL TIME … And How to Shoot Them” video: ruclips.net/video/a-mAxW0k5Qk/видео.html
- “More MOST FAMOUS POOL SHOTS of All Time … And How to Shoot Them” video: ruclips.net/video/S9eOrxwk7H4/видео.html
- “Top 10 WILD and CRAZY POOL SHOTS of All Time” video: ruclips.net/video/JNrBg4mCVAs/видео.html
- “Top 10 Creative Billiards Bridge Options” video: ruclips.net/video/zWukirAlb4Y/видео.html
- “Top 10 BEST SAFETIES of All Time … And How to Shoot Them” video: ruclips.net/video/Rhv3X9uFEYM/видео.html
This is the most detailed instruction on jumping I have seen or read about yet. This video highlights a lot more helpful tips in comparison to your earlier jump video. I really enjoyed the extra detail on what not to do and the correct stroke technique. Dr. Dave, you're the man! You have gave me a shortcut of YEARS of experience through your book and videos. Thank you.
I am a Colorado resident and look forward to when I can save up some money and paid time off for your lessons.
I'm glad you liked the video. I would be happy to work with you in person some day. Catch you later.
No kidding, this video is outstanding, and I'll be rewatching it regularly 👍
Easily the best Jump-Shot tutorial I've ever seen. I'm known as a good jump shot player myself in my area. People come ask me on how to do jump shots all the time. I'm going to recommend they used this video as there #1 go to on how to learn the jump shot for themselves from now on...
Thanks. I'm glad you think it is good enough to share and recommend.
@DrDaveBilliards Thanks to this video, I made my first jump shot on the 8 ball for a game winner. Yeah! Thanks Dr Dave. 🎉🎉🎉
I’m glad to hear it. Congrats!
As someone that's played for almost 25 years, this is EASILY the best jump shot tutorial ever made by a mile. Thank you for the time, effort and description you put in this video.
Wow! Thank you!
Getting better but inconsistent. I keep coming back to this video. Thank you
I hope the video continues to help you improve.
I've watched a lot of your videos, and my game has rapidly improved. Today I almost won a five-game set against an "APA Six" (and cool guy) who had been practicing for hours before I arrived at the pool hall. It came down to the eight ball in game five, and I blew it (just barely), but oh well - next time!
Four months ago I would have had virtually no chance winning a single game against a skilled player, but now I'm starting to give good players some trouble, and your excellent instructional videos have really helped me improve my game.
Thanks man!
I'm glad to hear my stuff is helping you improve and win. I hope that trend continues.
@@DrDaveBilliards Thanks!
Hands down THE BEST jump shot tutorial video I have ever seen. I’ve always struggled with jump shots. I like how you take the time to explain all kinds of techniques of jumping. New subbie! I’m going to save this video and refer back to it. Thanks Doctor Dave! ❤
Thank you, and you’re welcome. FYI, here’s a follow-up video you might also find helpful:
ruclips.net/video/fOaQDec3KD4/видео.html
The jump cloth is a fabulous tip. I'm not really on the level to be trying jump shots yet, but you made it easy to understand.
Another exhaustive instructional video. Well done! I might add that a specialty jump cue like the McDermott Dr. Popper and good technique can let you make seemingly impossible shots. I have video on my phone of me jumping over a obstacle ball that is a little more than a toothpick's width away. Granted, in a game there are usually better options, but I just wanted to see the limits of my jump cue.
Thanks. FYI, those near vertical jumps are usually double-hit fouls. The only way to send the CB forward is with a secondary hit from the ferrule or shaft.
Just want to add something to this, as well: Most Coin-op (bar) tables have oversized cue balls… those are hard to jump and not worth the space to jump the cue ball.
Another aspect is the cloth: If the cloth is a thick, slow, woolen cloth, you can use a regular cue and jump the CB with ease. The thin, fast, worsen cloths are difficult to jump the rock because they do not provide a divet like the woolen cloths. Other than so, everything Dr. Dave says is absolutely spot on!
You make a good point about the oversized balls, but are you sure that most coin-op tables have oversized cue balls? I thought that was only true of old pool tables - the patent for magnetic cue balls is from 1966, and there have been advancements since then as well. I don't know if I've ever seen an oversized cue ball, and I go to quite a few different places to shoot pool (although your comment reminds me that I should always check).
Whether magnetic cue balls are harder to jump is a different question that I don't know the answer to.
@@myblacklab7I have seen over-sized cue balls but very rarely since the 80s.
The ONLY two things I focus on when jumping…the aim point and making a good stroke THROUGH the cue ball. Keep your eye ON the cue ball through the stroke.
If that sounds like any other shot, you’re right. Once you feel comfortable with the jump, then follow, draw, or getting position after the jump will almost come naturally. Feel it out. It’s just another shot that is made to sound difficult but is totally attainable.
Thanks Dr. Dave. Great video.
Not a jump pro, but I'm pretty sure you don't have to stroke thru the cue like a masse shot. I just pop it like a quick jab and it works fine. Watch the dart technique, is he hitting the cloth?
@@lonoster8501 Is he hitting the cloth while darting it? Yes. Yes, he is.
Do you only stroke through the ball on masse shots? Stroking through the ball should be for every shot. What are you even talking about? You, yourself, don’t have to hit it correctly but it’d probably help.
Thanks Dr Dave! You're a fantastic teacher!
You’re welcome, and thank you!
Thank you so much for this video! I have no problem jumping long jumps, and even full ball jumps about 3 balls width apart. But once it gets less than that, I have lots of trouble. This info can really help me fix that with some practice! Love how you break down the art of pool into a more exact science
Check out the videos and info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/cue-elevation/
and here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/highly-elevated/
Some of the other stuff here might help also:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/technique/
Enjoy, and good luck!
Very informative video Dr. DAVE.
The one thing you might want to mention is when jumping off of a cloth it makes it easier to jump. Ball jumps quicker and higher.
Good point. I should have mentioned that. The extra cloth thickness does make jumps a little easier (especially if the table's cloth is worn and thin).
I always scoop jumped but knew it wasn’t the correct technique. Can’t wait to practice these tips. Excited to one day be a better pool player 🤗
I hope it helps.
Tks doc i wouldn't know how to do the shot without this tutorial newbie here
I’m glad you found it helpful.
Very informative!
I too quickly learned how important an extra piece of cloth on the table is while practicing!
All in all, you covered this part of the game very well!
I always enjoy watching your super slow motion clips 👍🏻
Thanks Eric. I'm glad you liked it, and I hope you got something useful from it. Catch you later.
The extra cloth on the table is indeed a great idea. I've been afraid to attempt jump shots at all, but I assume the occasional shot in play doesn't usually damage the cloth?
Did you see Fedor Gorst's incredible jump shot at the APEX Wisconsin Open? If not you need to see it.
I didn't. If you can find it, please post a MM:SS timestamp link. Thanks!
@@DrDaveBilliards m.ruclips.net/video/wfsUYTWkAQg/видео.htmlm48s
Thanks! That is an awesome shot. I just added a link to it here:
billiards.colostate.edu/videos/pool-shots/
That's a nice addition. Thanks again.
@@DrDaveBilliards you're welcome! Thank you for all of your instructional videos! I've had a lot of trouble jumping, going to try your tips.
@@BeardedBilliards You're welcome. I hope the video tips help.
I really appreciate the time and effort for this, I've been looking for a detailed one for a while.
Bad shoulders forces me to do dart I can't stand the pain for the regular one
I'm glad you found what you were looking for.
Great advice with starting on the rails. I was able to perform a jump shot with this advice
@@inabitovapikle I’m glad you got it to work. With practice with everything in the video, you should eventually be able to jump from the table also.
@@DrDaveBilliards U mentioned using a cloth to protect the table from the cue ball. Where can I get these from?
@@inabitovapikle You can use any kind of cloth, but a piece from a used pool table cloth is recommended. You can get a piece from anybody you know that owns a table (and has had the cloth changed). You can also ask a local pool hall. If they don’t have any, you can ask when they plan to change the cloths and show up to cut some pieces.
Hey ..Dr Dave ..great video ! Just picked up a jump break cue …here we go !
I hope the video helps you be successful.
I'm glad that my club pool hall allows for jump drills on few tables and on all while playing a game or a tournament. Thanks for another useful video!
It is also polite to use a spare piece of cloth to limit damage to the table cloth. I'm glad you liked the video. You're welcome.
@@DrDaveBilliards yes, of course I use a spare. Otherwise my marks would go down to its basement...
Well like normal Dr. Dave instructional Video was great like always.♥️
Dr. Dave coved jumping, how to do it correct, and mistakes new people to jumping can & do make.
So if you want to jump master, Practice wha was demonstrated.
Great Video.👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks for the nice review. I'm glad you and others liked this one because it took lots of time and effort to create. Best regards!
The holy grail of jump shots. No prescription required. Thanks doc.
As always, the prescription is: Practice, Practice, Practice.
@@DrDaveBilliards Of course!!!! Of course. My bad Doc.
WOW
Really nice
You make it look so easy. I tried it a few times in my life.
Only with my regular plain queue which had a medium to hard tip.
No luck for me.
I never stuck with it. As far is jumping went. I worked more at cue ball position.
😅. But father time finally caught up to me.
Keith
I definitely love this video you have drastically improved my jump shot. Thank you 😊
I'm glad to hear it. You're welcome!
Another information for me on how i will fine tune my jumpshot. I both use the regular jump shot and the dart shot when the cb is very close to another ball.. thanks dave
You're welcome. I hope the video info helps.
Thorough as anyone could want.
Lol I am a pool noob by any measurement but once I was shooting the 8 ball last for the win and my opponent had a large cluster of balls in front of the 8 so I called the pocket that it was sitting in front of and sort of winged a jumping shot over the cluster of balls and lo and behold it worked.
Felt like a BS genius 🤣
Now I have sharpened my knowledge for the next time I need it 😂
Thanks. I hope it helps in your future jumping endeavors.
This video has helped me immensely.
I’m glad to hear it.
The “bullshit bridge” I love it. First time I heard that one. 🤪😂😎
Pfft!! If The Magician had no use for a jump stroke, then neither do I! :)
Just kidding. Yet another excellent video. Some practice time coming up over this weekend.
Thanks, Dr.Dave, as always!
Good luck. I hope the video info helps. Efren didn't need to jump, but most mere mortals do.
LOL - I like that you're kidding, since I hear people say that all the time.
I'm guessing that the reason Efren doesn't shoot many jump shots is because he isn't very good at that shot.
@@myblacklab7 Efren is not good at jumping; but when you kick as well as him, there is really not much need or incentive to practice the jump. Having said that, even Efren could benefit from having an effective jump shot (with certain shots).
@@DrDaveBilliards I agree - kicks don't work for every situation, and extreme masse shots are really hard to pull off.
One of the best ever ! Super dr.dave
Thanks! I worked hard on this one. I'm glad you liked it.
OUTSTANDING !! soooo wanna do this in my next 8 ball game when needed ....even if its a foul, just to be OUTRAGIOUS !!
It is not a foul if you do it properly.
@@DrDaveBilliards I think world 8 ball pool rules it's a foul ?
@@martinparker9249 The official international rules of 8-ball are the WPA World Standardized Rules, which allow a legal jump shot. For more info, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
I just wanna to tell you thanks for everything Doc you really got me on the right track I humbly appreciate at it (thanks a lot) 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
You're welcome. I'm glad to hear you like and benefit from my stuff. Continued good luck with your game!
Being able to jump out of a safety is a great tool. Being able to make the object ball with a jump shot is very deflating to one's opponent! Just be aware you will be turning the CB loose. I've had a few good jump shots result in scratches, in my time.
Well your video was a very good lesson to learn I just couldn't figure out how to do a jump shot until I watched your video & mini clips pool game app doesn't offer jump shot because of it's game programming code only offers spin shots, I guess it will take a while for game developers & game designers to learn more about how to make a jump shot work with a bit more practice & experience.
I’m glad you found the video helpful.
Wonderful video DR. Dave
Thanks. I’m glad you liked it.
Thank's again Dr.Dave, 50% of my game I learn from your videos and this chanell..another great video🔝🔝
Are you maybe thinking about making video like this for masse shot?
That would be awesome 😁.
Share the knowledge✌
You’re welcome. I’m glad to hear it. FYI, I already have lots of good masse videos under the different categories here!
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/masse/
Enjoy!
Excellent video thank you.
Thank you, and you’re welcome.
So, I was playing Persona 5 Royal, in which one of the side activities you can do is billiards... at one point, the MC does a jump shot, and that got me curious as to how it works, and that's how I found this video. With how you explained it, I feel like it's something even I could do now, so thank you!
You’re welcome. I hope the video helps you have some success.
Bravo pour cette vidéo instructive. Merci !!
Thank you, and you're welcome! I aim to swerve. :)
Thank you!!! I just did it!!
You’re welcome. I’m glad to hear it.
Great video Dave thank you. In the grip segment tho your jump cue has seen its fair share of play. Looks like how my pencils in school would look during test time 😊
Thanks. I think something must have be wrong with the finish on my jump cue, because I didn't mistreat it.
Well done video that should be very helpful to a lot of players but I HATE jump cues. Maybe I'm just a dinosaur but I think if you want to jump you should learn to do it with your playing cue or if the situation dictates it learn to jump with your shaft. I call jump cues "gimmick sticks". Either way when you practice I would suggest spending ample time on different cut shots from various distances to fine tune your aiming. Again, well done Dave.
Thanks. The jump cue and jump shot are probably here to stay, so it is an important weapon to master.
This has been so helpful, Dr. Dave! I’ve been looking for resources around this and was wondering if using SAWS works well for jump shots as well.
Thanks Dr. Dave!
SAWS is used only for near-level cue shots with sidespin. For more info, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/saws/
@@DrDaveBilliards yes, I bought the Vimeo SAWS resource and it has been very helpful. I’m also familiar with the Coriolis method. But framed another way, is there a system for aiming with side spin / Masse for jump shots? Or is it just a feel / intuition approach?
@@philipv.mcharris5010 The Coriolis system works, but it still requires a lot of "feel" and experience to be accurate with jump masse shots.
@@DrDaveBilliards Great! Thanks Dr. Dave. I appreciate all the responses and insight - sorry if I ask you too many questions! 😂
@@philipv.mcharris5010 You're welcome. No problem.
Since my fingers aren't very long I don't really jump often, since I can't generate enough speed. I think I will come back again to this video when I'm 15 years old, when my fingers probably might be longer. For now I will stick to kicking. Great video by the way Dr. Dave👍
@@soriano278 Sounds like a good plan. You could also try jumping from the rail first, starting with small jumps over just a part of a ball (or a chalk).
Was a pleasure meeting you on Wednesday! Hopefully next time we can shoot a game and I can get my butt kicked 😆
I'd be happy to shoot a game or two the next time our paths cross. Catch you later.
Huge fan of this channel and start talk. When you were on star talk I was mind blown.
The StarTalk appearance was a lot of fun. I might actually do another one with them soon, dealing with bowling physics instead, so stay tuned!
@@DrDaveBilliards awesome. I am beyond excited.
Thank you for the time and effort you put in your.... And do you play in big tournaments if you don't mind me asking
I am a professional instructor, not a professional player, so I don’t play in many tournaments. The biggest I enter on occasion is the VNEA tournament in Vegas.
best tutorial for billiards
Thanks.
Another fantastic video... Dr....
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I mastered the scoop jump shot from since I was little unfortunately, found out they were illegal right before I was about to start my first pool league. This video was very informative and helped me understand how to do proper jump shots, thank you!
You're welcome. That's too bad the scoop shot is illegal because it is really easy and really effective.
@@DrDaveBilliards I believe it's because scooping damages the felt.
@@glennrozefort3904 It can, especially if the cloth is cheap and loose. It also requires no skill, which would make a jump too easy an option.
@@DrDaveBilliards From my understanding Practice is a must to make it 2nd nature. I notice if I didn't do it for a while I kind of forget how to jump
@@glennrozefort3904 Most definitely. This is true of any challenging skill in any sport.
Due to bad shoulders I have to use the dart method for jumping. I was surprised that you did not illustrate the dart method.
Watch the entire video. I have an entire section and lots of examples dealing with the dart stroke!
Great video Dave! I will have to practice this. I may need your help though!
Thanks. I'd be happy to help.
Could you elaborate more on the side arm stroke technique? I can consistently jump the ball with both underhand and side arm, but the aiming is tough. I prefer to learn the side arm since I’m short and it’s more versatile for me.
I think all the advice in the video still applies. Just be sure to keep the shoulder and elbow as still as possible.
Same for me, I'm practicing side-arm stroke right now and having trouble with the aiming, trying to correct my stroke since I usually have unintentional sidespin which causes the cue ball to be curved off the aim-line. Are there any tips for this Doc?
@@npt22695 Sorry, but the only advice I have (other than what is in the video) is to keep your head, body, shoulder, and elbow as still as possible during the stroke.
@@DrDaveBilliards thanks Doc, I think there's something with the stance, I notice the pros that they usually step out of the aim-line. Would be great if you consider making a video about this technique alone? I see many pros using this instead of the other techniques. I believe it would be interesting since most tutorials on RUclips are all about underhand and dart stroke.
Thank you so much for this tutorial
You're welcome. I aim to swerve an to jump. :)
WOW, thank you!!!!!
You’re welcome. I’m glad you liked it.
Dr. Dave:
I'm hopeless when it comes to jumping the cue ball. The cue ball hardly leaves the surface. Thanks for the video. I'm hoping I can finally get it!!
I hope the advice in the video helps.
@@DrDaveBilliards I actually hit several successful jump shots today! I had been setting mu cue at too steep an angle. I probably had the cue at 60 degrees instead of 45 degrees before this change. I didn't hit the shots online, but at least the cue ball left the table and jumped over the ball blocking my line.
@@bigknocker2264 I’m glad to hear it. Good job!
I just won a game with a jump shot for the first time today! Thanks Dr.Dave!
Congrats! I'm glad to hear it. You're welcome. I aim to swerve (and to jump). :)
ive used a jump shot to get out of a safety more than to make a ball. If you jump good you can almost always get a good hit. And that will win games.
Well done sir. Very useful.
Thanks. I’m glad you think so.
Excellent jump video 🙏👍
Thanks. I'm glad you thought so. FYI, a lot more jump shot help and advice can be found under the various topics here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/
Enjoy!
Thanks Dr Dave, I really did enjoy this video, and I think I'll be paying a lot more attention to your channel going forward. Anyone can see that you're very talented 👍
@@HikeColorado Thanks again. I already have close to 500 videos posted, so you have some good binge-watching "homework" ahead of you:
ruclips.net/user/DrDaveBilliardsvideos
Thank you
You're welcome
Thanks!
You’re welcome, and thank you!
@Dr. Dave I think the better shot at the 8 ball at 8:17 would be the one rail kick off the top short rail but, in the context of this video, the masse is the good option.
@@masonkeener4778 “in the context of this video”
It’s almost like I acknowledged that.
@@masonkeener4778 He’s the one who brought up the masse shot lol Did you even watch the video?
@@masonkeener4778 There’s only back and forth if you keep replying.
You didn’t need to memorize anything, btw. I posted the timestamp in my comment.
@@masonkeener4778 Cool and I acknowledged as much.
Agreed. FYI, I have that option blocked at 8:27.
Have you been having sword fights with that Predator jump cue or is it some kind of "weathered look"?
I think there was something wrong with the finish because I did not abuse the cue (even though it sure looks like I did).
I will never forget what I went to this tournament one time Johnny Archer was there Tony Ellen.
And others.
I was watching Tony Ellen to me he was very intimidating. He said to me I'll give you 6789 for $50 a game. NO KIDDING. I Had to pass. No Bullshit
Johnny Archer won the tournament that night for 10 grand.
He had a nice seven rack run.
Keith
Thank You ❤
You’re welcome! I aim to swerve (especially with jump masse shots). :)
@@DrDaveBilliards your methods are easy to follow. I just returned to playing pool seriously after 15 years... Lot to catch up and too many errors to fix 😅
I hope my stuff helps your return to the game be more enjoyable and successful.
Fantastic video
Thanks. I really do think the video contains "Everything You Need to Know" to learn and master the jump shot.
@@DrDaveBilliards Excited to work my way through the rest of your videos. Just got serious about pool and joined the APA
I have 650 videos online already, so you have lots of catch-up "homework" to do! :)
@@DrDaveBilliards That’s great news for me!
Very helpful and thorough. I'm curious what happened off camera at 6:02!
The CB bounced high off the cushion and bounced a few times.
I'm glad you liked it. This one took a lot of work!
@@DrDaveBilliardslol sweeeeeet. Ex-Physics major, switched to comp sci, but your videos stick with me the most. I owe many victories to your lectures and explanations. Come to Chicago and play some games with me and my crew! My door is always open for you, Professor.
Kinetics is King!!!!
I really like your videos. I've played at a pretty high level for decades, but I never learned to jump. Now is the time. I've noticed that you, and other pros, talk about center ball. What I'm noticing is that it is just slightly below center. I made a few measurements, yes Im a geek, on the picture of where you set-up, and others who set-up, for center ball, and it seems pretty consistent that it is slightly below. Could you confirm that?
Specifically 14:54 of this video. Thanks!
@@gsgeiger Slightly below center does make the jump easier, especially at higher cue elevations. See the 14:44 point in the video.
If you want even more help mastering the jump shot, also see the other videos and info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/technique/
@DrDaveBilliards thank you. Yes, I did notice that while I was watching.
Thanks Doc! 👍
You're welcome! I aim to swerve. :)
I'm going to be practicing this week using the extra cloth as you recommended in this video. Does that have any effect on the jump? Such as, making it easier or more difficult to jump?
Adding the cloth does make it slightly easier to jump the ball, especially on a table with very thin and worn cloth.
@@DrDaveBilliards thanks!
Any tips on what tip shape a jump cue with a phenolic tip should have?
It really doesn't matter much, but nickel or quarter radius is generally better for a near-center-ball-hit break shot.
Hi DrDave,
I wonder why it’s illegal to jump shot by scoop the cue ball? Because of miscue or double hit or what? Do you have a slow motion video to demo the case?
… probably because it is too easy and it involves a miscue and secondary contact or the tip hitting the CB while in contact with the table. For super slow motion videos, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/scoop/
Thanks sir 🙏❤
@@TapashRozario You’re welcome. I aim to swerve. 🤓
@@DrDaveBilliards dear sir, your tricks is awesome 💯 every man's easily understanding 🎱
What are the implications of jump shots against the new-fangled slab glass surfaces (faced with conventional felt, of course).
I´ve seen aggressive jump shots done on these surfaces, and no concern for damage shown -- but have you _seen_ what happens when tempered glass shatters?! _Oh my God!_
Sorry, but I don’t have any experience with these surfaces; although, like you, I am also curious.
Thank you! This is a fantastic video. For the wrist snap I’m seeing (maybe snap is too harsh a word but maybe you know what I mean), this is done with left to right deviation and not any sort of flexion/extension correct? I guess that just comes with a loose and relaxed wrist. And also, is this prominent in good action draw/follow shots? Or do you ideally not want to deviate the wrist when performing these? I know I’ve seen SVB break with a wrist swing back towards the ulnar side, and then forward towards the radial side, what place does this have in more “normal” shots?
Thanks Dr. Dave!!
In general, it is not recommended to snap the wrist. it should instead be relaxed and "along for the ride." For more info, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stroke/wrist/
@@DrDaveBilliards Thank you sir!
Great video, Dr. Dave! With the dart stroke, is it okay to have both the index finger and middle finger on the top of the cue rather than just the index cue? Would that cause any issues or is that more preference? Thank you!!
I did some follow up research and see folks like Florian and others use two fingers on top, so seems to be preference / comfort. I seem to have a bit more control when using the two fingers on top so I’ll try to master that (unless there is a benefit of only using one finger there!) - thanks again Dr. Dave!!
@@philipv.mcharris5010 As I discuss and demonstrate in the video, having the middle finger underneath is better for most people to prevent the cue from twisting due to the fingers not being in the same plane perpendicular to the cue.
@@DrDaveBilliards ah I see. I thought that just meant to have all the fingers in the same area on the cue as you say. I have been practicing with that in mind, but with my ring finger where my middle finger would be and the thumb and index being in the same area. But I guess the added finger on top even if they are all in the same area can cause twisting? I’ll keep this in mind - thanks, Dr. Dave!
@@philipv.mcharris5010 Regardless of how you position your fingers, it is best to have them all touching the cue in the same plane (not just in the “same area”).
Jump cues aren’t permitted in APA? Are you allowed to use your break cue or regular cue to jump?
Jump cues are not allowed, but jumping with your playing or break cue is fine.
Sometimes looking at the stick straight makes u see blury or double
... then stop staring at the stick. :)
But...but...but, jump shots are not allowed in Straight Pool. HAHA. Great video, Dave. I can only imagine how long it took to put together.
Thanks Bob. This one did take a lot more work than normal, but I think it was worth it. I sure got lots of good jump practice. It won't help my sucky straight-pool game, but it should help me strike more fear in the hearts of my 8-ball league opponents!
I need to learn this.. I’m a pretty new player and I had to kick 8 times in my match last night most of them were jumpable for sure.. ended up fouling 5 times smh
The jump shot is an extremely important defensive and offensive weapon in modern pool. And once you learn the technique, it is very reliable. If you want more help, see the videos and info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/technique/
@@DrDaveBilliards thank you! I just went to practice at the pool hall. I’m getting it over the balls and making contact at least. Going to take a while to develop control and accuracy.
@@MickeyOphelan I’m glad to hear it. Keep at it. It is worth it.
When are you going to rep USA for Mosconi cup Dr Dave?
… when I invent a time machine and go back in time to attempt to become a pro player instead of a professional instructor. But I like the path I chose. Attempting to be a pro player can be a tough life. It takes many things to become a top pro player:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/advice/pro/
14:38 That is just insane, I have tried jumps from this close, but fail miserably every time :D
This type of jump is much easier with the "dart" stroke. It is really important to keep the grip relaxed and be sure to not muscle the shot.
@@DrDaveBilliards I always use the dart stroke, I am very uncomfortable with the other stroke it just doesn't feel right. But I think I should practice this more, I just don't like jumping a lot in the pool hall (I do use a piece of scrap cloth though to protect the table)
Gonna learn this before I buy a table that I didn't find at the side of the road. One of my huskies loves to jump up and sleep on my table , I'll retire it as the dogs bed 😂
An old side-of-the-road table that the dog sleeps on is a perfect table to learn how to jump.
I should save this video for my couple friends I play with cause they only know how to shovel it I showed them how and let them use my jumper but couldn’t do it meanwhile I can do it with a beat up house cue
I hope it helps them. If they still think “scoop” jumps are legal, also show them the stuff here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/scoop/
I have jumping the ball down but I often over jump the ball and if I don’t give it enough power I don’t get over the ball I’m not sure what I need to do.
Simple. Follow all the technique advice here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/technique/
and practice a lot.
Any suggestions for a player in a wheelchair?
Hold your elbow out to the side instead of up, and be sure to keep the shoulder and elbow and still as possible during the stroke.
I don't think it is bouncing off the table, at least primarily. I think if you do the force vector diagram you will see what it really happening (or just think about it for a second), at least as the first order effect, if I am right. I think you can negate any rotational aspects, for a first estimate.
I would certainly expect the cloth to be compressed, obviously, but if you devise a good experiment to force the ball into the cloth at the kinds of downward forces generated in a jump shot (just measure them) and then release it 'instantaneously', you will find it will move very little, not remotely what you can do jumping. Just my take. I've heard this bounce stuff forever, but I don't buy it, not without some properly generated empiracle proof, anyway. Also, I would think that the cue ball would react very differently, if it were actually bouncing, with and without the practice cloth.
In layman's terms, I think you are effectively pinch/squirting it off the table.
I was really hoping you weren't advocating that duck walk on the aiming to jump position rise. I can just see the ribbing resulting from that. You came through, yet again.
Interesting cushion bridge, I will try that. I'll try the jump position set, down to aim point, and back up again. That looks like it would work well, as it doesn't require any positional resets up high. Great idea.
And yeah, offset tip on a high jump and the squirt part, on a longer shot especially, is almost inconsequential.
A jump masse, LOL, I can't even execute the damned things well when I they are almost totally on the cloth. And yes, I looked at your (actually the) system, which helped some. Maybe this vid will help. I would like to find a scrap piece of cloth before I practice several shots on the hall tables though. Got to catch the table mechanic. Feel free to give me a grade, just be nice about it. :-)
You can have your own opinion, but the physics is clear (based on high-speed video analysis, which you can find on my website). You don't have to buy it, but it is true ... the CB bounces off the slate, just as it does if you throw the CB down on the table at an angle, and just like it does on each hop during a jump shot.
What are the measurement for your jersey? Tryning to get one
It is a "Large." I don't know the detailed measurements; but if you ask me exactly what measurements you want, I can measure it for you.
Soo i can basically do basic jump shots but id like to start trying to lear the tough ones inside 10 inches witch i cant do yet, i have a duffern jump/break and im looking to go with a preditor would i be fine with a preditor jump break or does a jump only cue make a big difference, i dont care how well it breakz i can make a break work with a broom lol id like something that will be a usefull jumping tool though but it would be nice to habe both in one if its just as effective. But also is the 14mm tip thhat much better than a 13mm tip? Or can both be effective and if the jump one cue is that much better is it mainly because of the shaft?
The most important attributes of jump cues are described and demonstrated here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/jump/
the jump masse is kind of blowing my mind. I've never seen that used before. Is there a clip of it somewhere?
It happens often with jump shots anytime you don't hit perfectly on the vertical centerline of the CB. This is the first time I've discussed or demonstrated it in video. I haven't seen it elsewhere, but I'm sure somebody must have done it before.
@@DrDaveBilliards your example situation was highly specific, it seems unlikely there wouldn't be a better option even if it is really cool looking.
@@caseydahl1952 Agreed. There would almost always be a better option, unless you are confident with the jump masse (because you have practiced it), in which case it might be a good choice.
Hi Dr Dave. I am rewatching some of your videos on aspects of the game which I really need to work at. For me jump shots most definitely fall into that category as no matter what I try I just can't master the skill. I think this it partly due to me being a snooker player for most of my life as it isn't a transferable skill due to jumps being illegal in that game. And partly because i am subconsciously paranoid about ripping the cloth so i am not properly committing to the jump.
Just out of interest, how likely is it to rip or damage the cloth whilst playing jump shots?. The answer to that could possibly make the difference between me mastering the jump or not. I have a 3 piece jump cue so I would very much like to master the skill and get over this mental block that I seem to have, especially if im stressing about something which is unlike to occur.
Also, do you use a different type of chalk on your jump cue than you do on your playing cue?. The reason I ask this is because there aren't any visible chalk marks on the cloth when you show the dents. Personally I use Taom Pyro on my playing cue but that doesn't stick so good to the phenolic tip on my jump cue so I use triangle chalk on that which is softer and leaves visable marks.
I don't like Taom on my jump and break cues. I use Master chalk for that. Taom doesn't stick well enough for me on the phenolic tips. Concerning cloth damage, they only real risk is muscling the shot and driving the tip into the cloth with a lot of force. With proper and relaxed technique, this isn't a concern whatsoever. If you want more advice see the other resources here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/technique/
Hey Dave, thanks for the great video. I've got the dart stroke pretty good but when I use a regular jump stroke, I often get micro tears in my cloth (couple broken threads). It's simonis 860 cloth and I have the jacoby jumper. I use a piece of felt when I practice jumping but I would be hesitant to attempt a jump on any other table for fear of damaging cloth. Any tips for this?
If the regular stroke is causing more cloth damage than the dart stroke, you are probably muscling it or scooping under ball or just using a lot more speed.
Set up balls against the rail and shoot into the side pocket, because you're against the rail, you can't scoop under the ball and if your ripping the cloth, you are scooping. Just practice over and over like that until it becomes habit and eventually you'll stop doing that. Jumping you're not shooting thru like a masse shot. I do masse shots all the time and I've never ripped cloth, do you know why? Think about the angle the tip is at, if you're hitting down full tip pretty flat, you'll never rip the cloth. I do full masse coming back, curve shots, off the rail and have for many years every time I play and again, never ripped cloth and don't use a cloth BUT SHOULD. I never used a jump cue. Honestly, I always thought they were people that couldn't masse and couldn't kick. Yea, so I wish I would have bought one a long time ago. I was dead wrong. Another great weapon
But please tell me how shooting under is a foul because you can still hit at 39 degree and would never touch the ferrule
It is not a foul to hit a jump shot with backspin. It is only a foul if you scoop the ball with a double hit or table assist. For more info and lots of demos, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/scoop/
How far away from the cue ball is the bridge. ??
This depends on the player and the shot. For more info, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bridge/length/
Even if this is a video from 1 year ago, i just saw you're still answering to new comments (very commendable), so here I am. I started training 1-2 times a week by myself in april and i want to start playing on the lower level Championship i have in my country at the end of September, so i wanted to train more and learn new things. How long does it take to learn how to jump, in your opinion? Obviously not to master it but just to use it as a last chance shot😂
If you follow all the advice and practice everything in this video, and you have a decent jump cue, it shouldn't take long at all. Some people can learn in one practice session (with good instruction). Others might take several, assuming they identify and learn from their mistakes (based on the advice in the video).
@@DrDaveBilliards Thank you so much! I'm learning a lot from these videos
@@AndreBolo14 You're welcome. I'm glad to hear it.
Update: i just bought a break & jump cue and i went to the table to try it... after giving a rewatch to this video, i made a jump at first try. I'll train to learn also the dart stroke and the side-arm (didn't work at first, but i know they can be helpful in the future). Again thanks for sharing your knowledge, i think it means a lot and is very helpful for a lot of people! @@DrDaveBilliards
@@AndreBolo14 Awesome. FYI, if you want more help with the sidearm stroke, see my "JUMP SHOT Stance, Bridge, and Stroke Variations Useful to Know" video:
ruclips.net/video/fOaQDec3KD4/видео.html
Enjoy!
I wanted to know one 8 ball rules that i shot 8 ball and 8 ball stop very close to pocket almost pot then opponent play a shot on his ball and 8 ball is down on pocket with out any touch then what next
I will win or 8 ball again stood near the pocket or somewhere
A ball that falls into a pocket on its own is replaced in the position it was before it fell. FYI, answers to all rules questions can be found in the videos, handouts, and links here:
billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/