@@klein-conceptVery very few brands on the market can match that welding quality, it is perfect, well done Bossi! They are at the very top of my Ti list along with Moots and couple others.
Doesn’t get much better than that. The frame looks like perfection. Only bike that tops it is a Sturdy with all the 3D printed fork, stem, and seatpost.
This IS one, if not THE ONE aero dream bike for me. Every ones in a while I hop to their site, just to look at it. Maybe one day I can buy this frame. 🤜🏻🤛🏻
I love how down to earth your builds are please do not change your style. I will also be looking up the frame and handlebars as they both look very nice. Keep up the good work and be safe.
Beautiful bike. And it's also super light. You wouldn't think that a titanium road bike could be so light. I love titanium bikes and ride a gravel bike from the Dutch manufacturer Pilot myself. But I would also like to build a titanium road bike. Great work and, as always, super explanations.
Stellar build!! and yes, grip paste is the best thing ever!! I got a whole tube of the Park Tool stuff and I put it on every adjustment points so nothing gets gorilla torqued but everything stays put.
Herzlichen Glückwunsch, ein wirklich sehr geiles Bike mit wenig Kompromissen in Sachen Parts!!! Freue mich schon auf das Fahrt-Review! Geniales Video, wi immer!
cant wait for the review! I have been looking at this frame for a year now and just seen my LBS sells it as complete bike for €6600,-. So now i need to inform what parts he adds to it for that build because this is just inside my budget.
This is an amazing video - very thorough and some great close up shots. Almost makes me think I could build my own bike without screwing it up completely... 🤔
This is THE BIKE I would love to build coming from Specialized Aethos S-Works thats already an amazing frame to begin with. Pricing is a little out of realistic reach thought but your video may put me over the edge to get one finally!
I had the regular bossi strada, and that bike rode so damn well i was surprised. Definitely was a shocker for me considering I have ridden other titanium brands. My strada had bigger diameter Chainstays so the stiffness was there while still being compliant at the saddle. The brand or origin of the manufacturer does not matter if it's well designed and built. People judge too early without actually riding the frame.
Happy to hear about your experience. I can only confirm that. While I was only riding my Waltly frame before, this rides differently in a good way. Still need to make up my mind with more rides 🤜🤛
@@angelortiz353 oh i heard a lot of good things about the blackheart roat ti. Also looks beautiful. So congrats on your ride. With what configuration did you build it up? 🤜🤛
@@klein-concept for me that came from an endurance road bike this blackheart road geometry smokes my last bike in every way weight with pedals and titanium bottle cages and garmin exs ti mount and a 3 d lucendi rear varia mount 17.4 pounds
Hi Michael, as always a perfect and definitely beautiful built! I personaly would apreciate to see more builts for the "normal" bike enthusiast who is not willing to spend 10 k + on a bike. With focus on simplicity and function. But the Bossi is definitely a dream bike....
Thanks a lot. There will be more of that content coming as well. But there are already some good builds in that regard I think on the channel. First one being my very first steel bike restoration, the Yoeleo R12 with the LTwoo eRX as well as the Winspace Agile build. Or do you have anything very different in mind? Let me know 🤜🤛
@@klein-concept You are right - this is why I like the channel that much :-)! I am interested and steel bikes. Therefore it would be cool to see more builds from EU steel bike manufacturers (apart from Standert). In my research I feel that unfortunstely most of the (affordable) european steel bike manufacters are from UK (fairlight, enigma, etc.).
@@MB-qj8yo not really but could be due to the fact that the canary adapter spacer is a bit thick and lifts up the whole think which compensates for the steeper angle.
Very nice build. Just received my Standert Pfadfinder frame that I will be building up soon, and I find your build videos very useful. BTW: which kind of bottle cages did mount on the bike?
That is amazing. The Pfadfinder is a beautiful frame. Congrats. These are some lightweight bottle cages from Aliexpress. Unfortunately the link doesnt work anymore.
What a fantastic build! I'm not super into metal frames, but the titanium frame looked stunningly good! However, I noticed the part where you were indexing the Shimano RD and saw that you were using a waxed chain. While you were spinning the wheel, it seemed like excess wax was flying everywhere, and some even stuck to the frame. I'm wondering if this is going to be a constant thing, or does the excess wax stop flying around after a while? I've been considering waxing my chain for some time now, but my friend who waxed theirs mentioned this problem, so I'm not too sure now haha...
@@HoshinoMirai Thanks a lot. Glad to hear you like it. The problem with the wax only happens after the first hot wax session and is not a problem anymore after you rode it for a couple kms. I can only recommend waxing your chain. It s so clean and quiet. 🫶
The reason your indexing is struggling is because your chain is about 3 links too long. Put chain on big ring front, big cog in the back(smallest gear) and 2-3 pins plus link. Depending what cassette you use b screw is between 5-12mm( you have a guide in your rear derailleur box to set up b screw) You current set up looks like it is set up at +20mm… Don’t worry what you learned or whatever your local mechanic told you, just do what i told you and you will be ok. Cheers. 12 speed shimano has to be followed exactly how shimano explains it. Don’t play with it don’t try to make it better just follow directions or you will never and I mean never ever be able to get indexing right. Awesome bike. I am interested to know how it rides. Can’t wait for your ride review.
Did you remember to set up the front derailleur support screw? Easily forgotten. Asking because I wonder if you'd use the little stick-on metal part that comes with the front mech to avoid scratching the frame, or perhaps the frame already has a flat area for the screw to rest on.
@@klein-concept I asked because I initially forgot it too, and on my nice steel frame it noticeably improved the shifting. The Shimano band-on adaptors have a flat area designed for the screw to rest against, so I didn't end up with the screw resting on the frame. Would recommend the stick-on part in your case.
does the bottom bracket not have a centre sleeve/tube. there could be a high chance of the chain set axle wearing through the Di2 wire. Campagnolo bottom brackets use to be supplied without one, but know they do supply a sleeve because of issues of the axle wearing through the wire
How does this bike compare to your Waltly custom Ti frame? I have seen Waltly making some aero Ti frames as well and wanted to see how the two compare. Comfort between these aero shaped tubes vs cylindrical tubes in the Waltly. Thanks and keep up the great work! You definitely influenced me to go Waltly!
@@reinholdachleitner2069 Look at it from another perspective-this is a top quality Ti frame that costs about as much as SWorks carbon frame. Ti is forever, carbon isn’t. There is a good chance the Ti will outlive you.
Was is your take on 30mm and wider tires? I recently downsized to 28 because while the 30 and 32 were more comfortable, they were also harder for me to maintain speed, accelerate and climb.
I m on 28 on most of my bikes. Mainly because the outer diameter of most wheels is around 28 or 29 so i think aerodynamically 28 works best there. But I ordered some 30s and will try them to see if i notice any difference.
Watching with interest, Michael. I will observe that in 2024 I'd have trouble considering any frame, even a road frame, a) without a UDH, and b) with only 30mm tire clearance. I'll be interested to see if you've addressed these issues. Oh, and can I have your Waltly?
51:30 Please DO NOT use copper paste with aluminium or titanium parts. Over time this will cause contact corrosion between those parts. Copper paste will probably accelerate the corrosion between aluminium and titanium. Copper paste is only suitable for iron on iron or high temperature environments. There are a lot of different anti seize pastes without copper, suitable for aluminium. I don’t even know why they still market this stuff for modern bikes… If you want to learn more about this topic, search for „electrochemical series“. The bigger the electrochemical difference between the used materials, the bigger the likelihood of corrosion between these parts in harsh conditions an over time. I hope this helps
Hey Klein, (un)related question. These Ti Bikes may do something the "industry" does not want. Since technically a Ti frame is unbreakable, doesn't this mean that in the future (+20years) there will be a lot of these Ti frames around just like 90's steel MTB frames (or Track bikes converted to fixies by hipsters that somehow manage to create a whole esthetic around uncomfortable bikes ridden with super narrow tires on city streets)? Any thoughts?
I hope so. Thats why i love titanium or steel. The durability and robustness is so much better. So if the technology allows to build even lighter metal frames for the weight weenies (like myself sometimes) we might get there 🤜🤛
I believe until they get a lot cheaper you wont be seeing them even in 20 years from now as hipster esthetic bikes. But, we are also experiencing a titanium frame boost coming from China and Taiwan. Ora, TSB, Waltly and the one this frame is from are stepping up. Just look at the Eurobike that was held back in July. Non 3D/Molded frames are cheaper, but they dont look as good - hipsters do want the best looking bikes dont they :D
As you might have seen in my other video I also ordered a Waltly frame for way cheaper and loved it as well. So i fully agree. There are more affordable choices coming from Asia 🫶
That might very well happen. Or they will go back to some old standard. Like its happening with threaded bottom brackets and there might be a rim brake revival coming as well 🫶
@@klein-concept That's what I thought, I want to try the Berk Lupina Short with a pad. Tell me, did you measure how much the frame weighs? And what size did you get?
Hi. Love how the hike looks, well done you. Please tell me the name of these wheels, I know you will be swapping them with what's in the mail. These ones do look good though
The Avian Canary. I actually reused the one from another build but have a second one already sitting at my place for the next upgrade build. Both of them are 110x400 🤜🤛
@@klein-concept will order the FALCON II for my Swork Venge. A bit heavier / stiffer but still more aero & lighter than classic stem + bars! I’ll go for 110x360!
Bro, really! After 1:17:28 hrs you didn't gave us (the audience) the opportunity to see the whole bike assembled? At least 1 min to look at it and enjoy it. 🤦🏼♂️
I already gave you the full roundtrip around the build in the very first minutes of the video. But you re right. Next time. To make up for this i will add some extra beauty shots in the review video 🫶
I know. Luckily i only had to cover parts of it myself and even that was a bit of a stretch but this might be my forever bike. At least at the moment it s hard to imagine anything that would come even close to it. So i think it maybe was worth it 🫣
That frame is SO NICE! But I gotta say, modern bikes are kinda whack. You “slammed” that stem but it still had like 30mm of compulsory spacers. It just doesn’t hit the same... super nice otherwise.
That’s a great point. It changes the effective geometry of these bikes when comparing them on charts. Nothing wrong with them but the stack can be assumed to be 2cm higher than listed if you plan to run it slammed.
Раньше такие байки были просто вах теперь эта обыденность технологии позволяют Китайцы делают. И не нужно платить 7000 тыс евро за раму))) даже за титановую раму
next time please use a mechanical groupset. campagnolo super record for example. eletric systems are a liability to have on the long run. end game bike should be mechanical, also rim brakes only.
@@klein-concept electric groupset is here with us only because of the bigger profit margin of the bike companies. other than that, they are overrated and adds too much complexity to a simple ride.
Well, the text on the video thumbnail automatically reads like AnTi Dream because Ti is not a common word an brain reads "A Ti DREAM" as "AnTi DREAM". I'm sure your bike is amazing, thought. It's just funny thumbnail. I thought it was intensional and kinda viral. @@klein-concept
1:30 what do you mean no money involved? You got it for free and you don’t have to return it. You get money from views, ad sense and whatever you manage to get from selling this bike. There is money involved. Just indirectly.
@@ariffau interesting comment but let me explain. First of all it would be hard to make a review without getting the product to make the review on. And second sure you can always sell whatever you re reviewing but in the end except if you re reviewing maybe cars and would get a free car (which i guess doesnt happen) the value of the product would never cover the actual production cost. Like this video took 3 full days to film, 3 more days to edit and there is still a review coming. Value wise that will be WAY above the value of the frame itself. But yes what I ment was that there has not been any money involved. In terms of the regular common forms like cash, wire transfers or maybe these days any kind of crypto payments. Hope that makes sense.
Damn…I am jealous…well done man, the frame is a beauty
Thanks a lot. I love it so far. It rides like a charm. Will take it on some climbs and record a proper review 🤜🤛
@@klein-conceptVery very few brands on the market can match that welding quality, it is perfect, well done Bossi! They are at the very top of my Ti list along with Moots and couple others.
They really are. I alao have my eye on Moots and Litespeed but somehow i really clicked with the attitude of Bossi. 🫶
Doesn’t get much better than that. The frame looks like perfection. Only bike that tops it is a Sturdy with all the 3D printed fork, stem, and seatpost.
That's true, but it would be heavier I guess 🫶
This IS one, if not THE ONE aero dream bike for me. Every ones in a while I hop to their site, just to look at it. Maybe one day I can buy this frame. 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Also keep an eye on the second hand marker. While it is not cheap. Now after riding it i understand it is worth it 🤜🤛
Nicely done Michael. I am so stoked for you and I am really looking forward to the ride review. 👍🏾
Thank you so much. It is really a fun ride. Will be taking it into the mountains soon for a proper review 🫶
I love how down to earth your builds are please do not change your style. I will also be looking up the frame and handlebars as they both look very nice. Keep up the good work and be safe.
Thank you so much mate 🤜🤛
Beautiful bike. And it's also super light. You wouldn't think that a titanium road bike could be so light. I love titanium bikes and ride a gravel bike from the Dutch manufacturer Pilot myself. But I would also like to build a titanium road bike. Great work and, as always, super explanations.
Thanks a lot. And there are some more lightweight tunes coming up 🤜🤛
Oh wow that frame is so so so cool! Love your content man! Keep up the good work ☀️
Thanks a lot Rob 🫶
Stellar build!! and yes, grip paste is the best thing ever!! I got a whole tube of the Park Tool stuff and I put it on every adjustment points so nothing gets gorilla torqued but everything stays put.
Thanks a lot and good to hear you are very thorough with your carbon grip paste. It makes every build smother. 🤜🤛
I'm excited there is new content on this jewel of a bike. Much needed. 👏🏻🔥
And proper review coming as well 🤜🤛
Herzlichen Glückwunsch, ein wirklich sehr geiles Bike mit wenig Kompromissen in Sachen Parts!!! Freue mich schon auf das Fahrt-Review! Geniales Video, wi immer!
Vielen Dank 🫶
Let's go!!!! This looks incredible.
@@mikekelly1771 hope you enjoy it. That frame is a piece of art. Respect to the bossi team 🫶
That bike looks amazing!!
I agree. Love it too 🫶
Was für ein schönes Bike ❤ einfach geil !
@@unterwegsmitpatrick8397 danke dir 🫶
nice build.
@@trooperV thank you 🤜🤛
Super nice!! Enjoyed watching this!
Thanks a lot 🫶
stunning build
@@nomondayclub thanks a lot mate. You need to give it a testride 🤜🤛
wow, that's an amazing frame!
I could not agree more 🤜🤛
cant wait for the review! I have been looking at this frame for a year now and just seen my LBS sells it as complete bike for €6600,-. So now i need to inform what parts he adds to it for that build because this is just inside my budget.
I think independent of the groupset you will love the setup either way 🤜🤛
Quality Frame,
triggered my Reflex to see this titanium Fusion beatuy.
Safe riding.
Thanks a lot 🤜🤛
This is an amazing video - very thorough and some great close up shots.
Almost makes me think I could build my own bike without screwing it up completely... 🤔
Thank you. Glad it gives you this feeling as it is as easy as it looks. Go for it 🤜🤛
Solid 🎉
@@gamer-pro-berlin danke 🫶
This is THE BIKE I would love to build coming from Specialized Aethos S-Works thats already an amazing frame to begin with. Pricing is a little out of realistic reach thought but your video may put me over the edge to get one finally!
Happy to hear that. Glad I was able to push you towards it. You will not regret it. It is a really fun ride 🫶
I had the regular bossi strada, and that bike rode so damn well i was surprised. Definitely was a shocker for me considering I have ridden other titanium brands. My strada had bigger diameter Chainstays so the stiffness was there while still being compliant at the saddle.
The brand or origin of the manufacturer does not matter if it's well designed and built. People judge too early without actually riding the frame.
Happy to hear about your experience. I can only confirm that. While I was only riding my Waltly frame before, this rides differently in a good way. Still need to make up my mind with more rides 🤜🤛
Very nice i looked at this bike frame but because of cost i went with a blackheart road ti no regrets but the bossi looks amazing🙏💪
@@angelortiz353 oh i heard a lot of good things about the blackheart roat ti. Also looks beautiful. So congrats on your ride. With what configuration did you build it up? 🤜🤛
@@klein-concept thank you
@@klein-concept i have ultegra di2 crw 40-45 wheelset,exs cockpit,bjorn saddle,novaride bb,enve seatpost with enve fork
@@klein-concept for me that came from an endurance road bike this blackheart road geometry smokes my last bike in every way weight with pedals and titanium bottle cages and garmin exs ti mount and a 3 d lucendi rear varia mount 17.4 pounds
@@angelortiz353 lovely setup 🫶
In Germany we say geiler Typ! But i do like the bike too! 😎👍
@@kelangsplace ich danke dir 🤜🤛
Hi Michael, as always a perfect and definitely beautiful built! I personaly would apreciate to see more builts for the "normal" bike enthusiast who is not willing to spend 10 k + on a bike. With focus on simplicity and function. But the Bossi is definitely a dream bike....
Thanks a lot. There will be more of that content coming as well. But there are already some good builds in that regard I think on the channel. First one being my very first steel bike restoration, the Yoeleo R12 with the LTwoo eRX as well as the Winspace Agile build.
Or do you have anything very different in mind? Let me know 🤜🤛
@@klein-concept
You are right - this is why I like the channel that much :-)! I am interested and steel bikes. Therefore it would be cool to see more builds from EU steel bike manufacturers (apart from Standert). In my research I feel that unfortunstely most of the (affordable) european steel bike manufacters are from UK (fairlight, enigma, etc.).
Building all the things I've wanted recently.
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That looks sweet!!! Nice avian Canary 😉
Oh yes 🫶
@@klein-concept do you notice the 3 degree increased downangle? The yoeleo has a 7degree downslope and the canary a 10 degree one.
@@MB-qj8yo not really but could be due to the fact that the canary adapter spacer is a bit thick and lifts up the whole think which compensates for the steeper angle.
A really nice bike! I also found a similar one from J.Guillem after watching some cade media video.
Thank you. Oh yes their bikes are also beauties 🫶
Beautiful bike man. Been looking at their gravel bike frames
Thanks mate. Yes that one is also beautiful 🫶
I don't understand the hype around titanium frames, but this one is indeed very pretty.
@@pierrex3226 glad to hear that some titanium got to you 🫶
Great content!
Thanks a lot 🫶
Very nice build. Just received my Standert Pfadfinder frame that I will be building up soon, and I find your build videos very useful.
BTW: which kind of bottle cages did mount on the bike?
That is amazing. The Pfadfinder is a beautiful frame. Congrats.
These are some lightweight bottle cages from Aliexpress. Unfortunately the link doesnt work anymore.
What a fantastic build! I'm not super into metal frames, but the titanium frame looked stunningly good!
However, I noticed the part where you were indexing the Shimano RD and saw that you were using a waxed chain. While you were spinning the wheel, it seemed like excess wax was flying everywhere, and some even stuck to the frame. I'm wondering if this is going to be a constant thing, or does the excess wax stop flying around after a while? I've been considering waxing my chain for some time now, but my friend who waxed theirs mentioned this problem, so I'm not too sure now haha...
@@HoshinoMirai Thanks a lot. Glad to hear you like it. The problem with the wax only happens after the first hot wax session and is not a problem anymore after you rode it for a couple kms. I can only recommend waxing your chain. It s so clean and quiet. 🫶
I have a slight feeling you did in fact see us there
What do you mean?
Templehofer feld babyyy!
@@valkash7441 ja mann 🤜🤛
yeah 😄
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The reason your indexing is struggling is because your chain is about 3 links too long. Put chain on big ring front, big cog in the back(smallest gear) and 2-3 pins plus link. Depending what cassette you use b screw is between 5-12mm( you have a guide in your rear derailleur box to set up b screw) You current set up looks like it is set up at +20mm… Don’t worry what you learned or whatever your local mechanic told you, just do what i told you and you will be ok. Cheers.
12 speed shimano has to be followed exactly how shimano explains it. Don’t play with it don’t try to make it better just follow directions or you will never and I mean never ever be able to get indexing right.
Awesome bike. I am interested to know how it rides. Can’t wait for your ride review.
Thanks so much for the tips. Will give it another tune. 🤜🤛
@@klein-concept my pleasure! Cheers
Did you remember to set up the front derailleur support screw? Easily forgotten. Asking because I wonder if you'd use the little stick-on metal part that comes with the front mech to avoid scratching the frame, or perhaps the frame already has a flat area for the screw to rest on.
Yes i did forget it 🫣 or actually thought i dont need the plate as it is a metal frame in the first place. Might add it 🫶
@@klein-concept I asked because I initially forgot it too, and on my nice steel frame it noticeably improved the shifting. The Shimano band-on adaptors have a flat area designed for the screw to rest against, so I didn't end up with the screw resting on the frame. Would recommend the stick-on part in your case.
does the bottom bracket not have a centre sleeve/tube. there could be a high chance of the chain set axle wearing through the Di2 wire. Campagnolo bottom brackets use to be supplied without one, but know they do supply a sleeve because of issues of the axle wearing through the wire
@@leewormald1972 there was one and its in there as well. Will show it more clearly next time 🫶
Your video are fire as always, I just wonder why you wear those oversize glasses, something smaller would suit you better
@@baptisteridoux8020 the more face they cover the better 🫣🫣
Nice build. What kind of TPU tubes do you recommend? I’ve tried several brands but I get a lot of flats.
I m using the Ride Now TPU ones 🫶
How does this bike compare to your Waltly custom Ti frame? I have seen Waltly making some aero Ti frames as well and wanted to see how the two compare. Comfort between these aero shaped tubes vs cylindrical tubes in the Waltly. Thanks and keep up the great work! You definitely influenced me to go Waltly!
@@12danny21 Thank you. I think in a couple weeks i should be able to say more about the comparison. Need to stress test it a bit more. 🤜🤛
Hey, I tried the Supacaz Suave Bartape which is way lighter and i really like it it is not as sticky but the feeling is way nicer imo
Thank you. Will give it a try 🤜🤛
Very nice but it isn't cheap but you do get a seatpost,carbon fork,headset,spacers,thru axles and seatpost clamp included.
Thats true but agreed. The package included is pretty good and high quality 🤜🤛
@@reinholdachleitner2069 Look at it from another perspective-this is a top quality Ti frame that costs about as much as SWorks carbon frame. Ti is forever, carbon isn’t. There is a good chance the Ti will outlive you.
Ti over carbon any day 🤜🤛
I was waiting for a 747 to land on it.
@@alien-bass hahahahahhhahahaha better not 🫣
@@alien-bass but at least a T47 did lol
Was is your take on 30mm and wider tires? I recently downsized to 28 because while the 30 and 32 were more comfortable, they were also harder for me to maintain speed, accelerate and climb.
I m on 28 on most of my bikes. Mainly because the outer diameter of most wheels is around 28 or 29 so i think aerodynamically 28 works best there. But I ordered some 30s and will try them to see if i notice any difference.
@@klein-concept Let me know how it goes sir. Thanks
Ps best saddle ever💪💪
I liked it a lot but already moved to another one as it didnt fit my 🍑 somehow 🫣
Watching with interest, Michael. I will observe that in 2024 I'd have trouble considering any frame, even a road frame, a) without a UDH, and b) with only 30mm tire clearance. I'll be interested to see if you've addressed these issues. Oh, and can I have your Waltly?
This is a preproduction frame where i can not disclose these details yet but lets say. Both if your worries should be well addressed 🤜🤛
@@klein-concept Thank you. I think I may be able to read between these cryptic lines.
@@michaelnewman4302 😂😂
51:30 Please DO NOT use copper paste with aluminium or titanium parts. Over time this will cause contact corrosion between those parts. Copper paste will probably accelerate the corrosion between aluminium and titanium.
Copper paste is only suitable for iron on iron or high temperature environments.
There are a lot of different anti seize pastes without copper, suitable for aluminium. I don’t even know why they still market this stuff for modern bikes…
If you want to learn more about this topic, search for „electrochemical series“. The bigger the electrochemical difference between the used materials, the bigger the likelihood of corrosion between these parts in harsh conditions an over time. I hope this helps
Thanks a lot. I will have a look at this. Weird they advertise it as titanium grease. 🤜🤛
Hey Klein, (un)related question.
These Ti Bikes may do something the "industry" does not want. Since technically a Ti frame is unbreakable, doesn't this mean that in the future (+20years) there will be a lot of these Ti frames around just like 90's steel MTB frames (or Track bikes converted to fixies by hipsters that somehow manage to create a whole esthetic around uncomfortable bikes ridden with super narrow tires on city streets)?
Any thoughts?
I hope so. Thats why i love titanium or steel. The durability and robustness is so much better. So if the technology allows to build even lighter metal frames for the weight weenies (like myself sometimes) we might get there 🤜🤛
I believe until they get a lot cheaper you wont be seeing them even in 20 years from now as hipster esthetic bikes. But, we are also experiencing a titanium frame boost coming from China and Taiwan. Ora, TSB, Waltly and the one this frame is from are stepping up. Just look at the Eurobike that was held back in July.
Non 3D/Molded frames are cheaper, but they dont look as good - hipsters do want the best looking bikes dont they :D
As you might have seen in my other video I also ordered a Waltly frame for way cheaper and loved it as well. So i fully agree. There are more affordable choices coming from Asia 🫶
@@zeref783 my fear is that the "industry" will just change wheel/axle/headtube/etc. standards just to make them obsolete.
That might very well happen. Or they will go back to some old standard. Like its happening with threaded bottom brackets and there might be a rim brake revival coming as well 🫶
6 bis 8 Mille auf den Tisch - fertig!
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Nicht ganz 🫣
"Babe, wake up, Michael Klein built a new bike and we're going to watch it on RUclips!"
Hahaahhahahaha. Love it 🫶
Who needs a 15k carbon bike when you can have this? I would really like to see the industry moving to 3D printed titanium.
So true. Would be a great more sustainable movement 🫶
Watly titanium are doing a very similar looking frame also Ti, anyone experience with that?
@@darrenduerden i didnt try it yet. Would love to compare them side by side.
jetzt will ich auch eins
Ab gehts 🫶
Being bike monogamous is a difficult task to achieve but good luck!
At least it s a romantic idea 😂😂
Good video, thanks for your job. I saw in Instagram that you already installed a Berk non padded carbon saddle. What happened?
Thanks a lot mate 🤜🤛 The Bjorn is a beautiful saddle but didnt fit my 🍑
@@klein-concept That's what I thought, I want to try the Berk Lupina Short with a pad. Tell me, did you measure how much the frame weighs? And what size did you get?
The frame is around 1.8kg in a size 56 🤜🤛
Hi. Love how the hike looks, well done you. Please tell me the name of these wheels, I know you will be swapping them with what's in the mail. These ones do look good though
Thank you. These are the CRW CS4045. There is an unboxing video on my channel as well. Super dope wheels. Can recommend them so far. 🤜🤛
@@klein-concept cheers from Surrey England
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@@simo-lorenz schau nicht aufs bartape 🫠
It's called a compression ring 😉
Ah thank you 🫶. Makes sense.
May have missed it, but did you weigh the naked frame before the build?
Guess i got too excited. But its around 1.8kg for the frame in a size 56. 🤜🤛
@@klein-conceptunderstandable!
Oh yeah got this video lined up for when the kids are in bed.
@@abedfo88 hope you will enjoy it 🫶
Klein where did you buy handlebars from?
Superb, well done
Bought them from Pandapodium 🫶
@@klein-concept thanks I can’t wait to see the other light weight parts you’re fitting
@@Grant-bu4nj me neither 🫣
AVIANS Canary or Falcon II? Your 2nd one or the one you had put on another build? Specs? Thank youuuuu
The Avian Canary. I actually reused the one from another build but have a second one already sitting at my place for the next upgrade build. Both of them are 110x400 🤜🤛
@@klein-concept will order the FALCON II for my Swork Venge. A bit heavier / stiffer but still more aero & lighter than classic stem + bars! I’ll go for 110x360!
Wicked. Have you run so narrow bars before? Was thinking about going narrower as well but was wondering about handling and stability.
What saddle is that?
@@gabrielclimb The Bjorn Setka 🤜🤛
@@klein-concept tks
Really NICE bike
Thanks a lot 🤜🤛
Good content. However. install a screw, advert. Grease a bearing, advert. Its all getting a little silly.
@@porkyparry1 thank you. But really. There are too many ads? Sorry for that. I wasnt aware. RUclips places them automatically. Will have a look 🫶
Love the content but the glasses are so distracting 😎🤘
They are here to also passively train your focus 🫶
Bro, really! After 1:17:28 hrs you didn't gave us (the audience) the opportunity to see the whole bike assembled? At least 1 min to look at it and enjoy it. 🤦🏼♂️
I already gave you the full roundtrip around the build in the very first minutes of the video. But you re right. Next time. To make up for this i will add some extra beauty shots in the review video 🫶
Damn... its disc though.
I know but it rides so well. And even with disc it is really light 🤜🤛
@@klein-concept it looks great!
Whoah!
Right? 🤜🤛
@klein-concept That is mindblowing, glad to see you got it!
what's the weight of this frame?
Around 1.8kg 🤜🤛
No question it is nice, but many prefer the traditional look of welded metal frame. It looks too much like a painted carbon frame.
Agreed it s all a matter of taste. I love the look of a modern aero hinted frame but prefer steel or titanium. This gives me both 🫶
Whats the running total of this build?
Didnt put all the details together but roughly 10k euro 🫣
@@klein-concept wow 💸
Not cheap 😂
I know. Luckily i only had to cover parts of it myself and even that was a bit of a stretch but this might be my forever bike. At least at the moment it s hard to imagine anything that would come even close to it. So i think it maybe was worth it 🫣
Didn't you already get a ti bike from china
Maybe 🫣
come on, you didn't weight the frame and show no detail of the frame
@@nuttynut722 sorry 🫣 the frame is around 1800g. I promise there will be more detailed shots in the review video 🤜🤛
pedals?
I use the Wahoo Speedplay Powerlink ones.
That frame is SO NICE! But I gotta say, modern bikes are kinda whack. You “slammed” that stem but it still had like 30mm of compulsory spacers. It just doesn’t hit the same... super nice otherwise.
The lowest you can achieve the stem to be is with Dedas DCR 56mm top cap. Best to be used with an Alanera but $$$.
Also that proprietary adapter from Avian is adding some extra space. So there would be other possibilities to get it even lower 🫶
Good idea. Will have a look at that one but guess it is not as light as the Avian Canary one 🤜🤛
That’s a great point. It changes the effective geometry of these bikes when comparing them on charts. Nothing wrong with them but the stack can be assumed to be 2cm higher than listed if you plan to run it slammed.
That is true.
White stuff looks like sealant to me
Wasnt aware there is sealant for threads 🫣
@@klein-concept i dont know if it is, i just know thread sealer tends to be white.
@@mitchellsteindler that makes sense. Thanks a lot. 🤜🤛
Раньше такие байки были просто вах теперь эта обыденность технологии позволяют Китайцы делают. И не нужно платить 7000 тыс евро за раму))) даже за титановую раму
Right. This technology is getting more accessible to a lot of manufacturers now. Lets see what innovative designs and prices will come from this.
Wa Wa Wee Wa
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next time please use a mechanical groupset. campagnolo super record for example. eletric systems are a liability to have on the long run. end game bike should be mechanical, also rim brakes only.
While in theory I agree. I think this frame is electronic groupset only. Will be working on an epic mechanical rim setup soon 🤜🤛
@@klein-concept electric groupset is here with us only because of the bigger profit margin of the bike companies. other than that, they are overrated and adds too much complexity to a simple ride.
AnTi Dream, lol
How? Why? Let me know 🫶
Well, the text on the video thumbnail automatically reads like AnTi Dream because Ti is not a common word an brain reads "A Ti DREAM" as "AnTi DREAM".
I'm sure your bike is amazing, thought.
It's just funny thumbnail. I thought it was intensional and kinda viral.
@@klein-concept
@@dkaigorodov hahahahahahha. Wasnt intentional but now i also see it 🤜🤛
1:30 what do you mean no money involved? You got it for free and you don’t have to return it.
You get money from views, ad sense and whatever you manage to get from selling this bike. There is money involved. Just indirectly.
@@ariffau interesting comment but let me explain. First of all it would be hard to make a review without getting the product to make the review on. And second sure you can always sell whatever you re reviewing but in the end except if you re reviewing maybe cars and would get a free car (which i guess doesnt happen) the value of the product would never cover the actual production cost. Like this video took 3 full days to film, 3 more days to edit and there is still a review coming. Value wise that will be WAY above the value of the frame itself.
But yes what I ment was that there has not been any money involved. In terms of the regular common forms like cash, wire transfers or maybe these days any kind of crypto payments. Hope that makes sense.
Don't trust this parktool scale, it always read low.
What other scale is there to trust? I got this as it seemed the industry standard. Happy for other suggestions 🫶
Nonsense, parktool scales work perfectly. Maybe you should calibrate them if yours are off
@@andrecallison ok so maybe i m not crazy 😂😂
Noooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@EllasPOSEiDON haha why do you think so?
@@klein-concept Just kiddin'. You bring this bike a touch closer to my senses. I just enjoy to watch it. Have fun with it. :)
@@EllasPOSEiDON haha thank you 🫶
You could do this with your eyes shut. Just another free bike with no imagination sorry bruder
No need to be sorry. All subjective. For me this is as far away from "just another" free as i could imagine. 🫶
@@klein-conceptDanke schön It's a beautiful bike of course but I prefer your custom made bike where you put a lot more thought into it.
MOBI is one meticulous dude
@@DraxMoranis hahaahhahahaha 🫶
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