Correction: at 3:31 I say the brute forcer did "over 3 quadrillion input sequences". This is false, I miscounted the digits and it's actually on the order of 3 trillion. Still a lot.
Coppersalts, I can do level 5 complete% in 16.467 seconds now B) Why do boost off metal box then box jump when you can just do a box jump discovered on Aug 30, 2018? It requires going to the left of the spikes, then jump, then throw the box at the right frame, then jump twice. If you can get it working, then you can get it under 15 seconds maybe?
Strats that are maybe possible part 2: Level 7: before I said that you can clip through the moving spikes in level 7, but I know now, you can’t clip through moving objects, but what if you can clip on the second spike in level 7, then clip through the one-way platform right below the second spike Level 20: you can maybe skip the lever by grab boosting on the right, under the spikes, similar to level 34 & 35
Improvements that could be made (idk if some of these are possible lol) Level 7: maybe you can somehow skip waiting for the moving spiky balls by doing a wall clip? (Same with level 14) Level 16: maybe you can somehow make a TAS String that can jump onto the highest purple spring without using the conveyor belt? Level 17: maybe you can do a wall clip without flicking the lever? Level 18: Why can't you do more spike clips, that could save some time. Level 36 (question): how to do those left and right taps allow book to “clip” through the lever?
level 7 - not possible. you can only clip into the left side of a wall. level 14 - nowhere where clipping would be helpful. level 16 - pretty sure that's not possible. the high spring is positioned such that you need to gain speed from the conveyor. level 17 - this level is extremely airtight when it comes to routing and I'm pretty sure there's nowhere where clipping would save time. level 18 - those two spike clips that save time. the other ones are too far away to clip into them by a jump from the previous spikes. level 36 - I have no idea how the glitch works; I didn't make that string and the person who did never explained how it worked
@@RonnieKo-1210 no, I did save a little more time after uploading this, but that was just a few frames here and there. There's probably no way of knowing when we're at the limit - new discoveries could happen at any time
there's no way to jump back out of the yellow block wall without book bonking her head on the top of the wall. If you go back across the bottom section to the yellow switch and back it's not faster
some improvements (idk if some of these are possible.) level 8:jump at the right time from the bottom that should get you to clip through the wall from below!level 16:jump when you pass the spike above the first conveyor,it will land you at the bounce block. same goes for each area before a spike in the top area of the same level.level 21:clip through the one way platform with match,then grab match through it with book rest of the level is the same.
@@bubbles3914 here I've meticulously preprogrammed every single input to create a theoretically perfect run. Though TASes are often _not_ perfect as humans are fallible and can miss optimizations. Here we've already shaved off about 6 seconds in a version that's not on youtube yet.
there aren't that many glitches to begin with, so it wouldn't be too different. Grab boosts and box jumps aren't glitches, but rather exploits that could be hard to quantify in certain cases.
i mean expect these Grab boosts and box jumps I mean these Wall clip wall grab that prob used in level 52 and pillar that used in level 22@@aboxofsnakemice1798
still, they're not used all that much throughout the run; they're only used for major skips in a few of the levels. I might consider making a no-brab boost TAS though.@@xFifaEuro271
Me: Why don’t you spam fasting in level 1 to save some time 5 Seconds later me: oh, wait, flash player doesn’t register 1 frame taps, it needs to be at least 2 frames ahhhhhhhhh But, Seriously, does the tas frame perfectly presses the enter key every other frame?
I doubt that will ever happen; it's getting to the point where the most I can hope for is a couple frames here and there. Unless there are some huge discoveries it's unlikely to happen. I do actually have a TAS explained script already which I may make into an actual video at some point
![[TAS] Flash Bloons by sobble_p in 04:33.54](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9LJ4zud64_k/mqdefault.jpg)
![[TAS] BFDIA 5b any% in 4:43.8 - NOT The Absolute Limit (OLD VERSION)](/img/1.gif)
Correction: at 3:31 I say the brute forcer did "over 3 quadrillion input sequences". This is false, I miscounted the digits and it's actually on the order of 3 trillion. Still a lot.
If Somebody Finds a new timesave in level 7 that saves 0.3 seconds or more, coppersalts has to give a shoutout to him/her
In level 7 it's doubtful if even a single frame is possible to be saved let alone 18.
Great to see that! We are in the 4:20s :)
nice
Coppersalts, I can do level 5 complete% in 16.467 seconds now B)
Why do boost off metal box then box jump when you can just do a box jump discovered on Aug 30, 2018?
It requires going to the left of the spikes, then jump, then throw the box at the right frame, then jump twice. If you can get it working, then you can get it under 15 seconds maybe?
that used to be what I did, but the method I use now is much faster.
@@aboxofsnakemice1798 I'm talking about this strat ruclips.net/video/_cG5fZRGGCA/видео.htmlsi=nwiS0k8_ARL81LyT
truly the shortest episode (minis dont count)
womp to the freaking womp gelatin
other than BFDIA 5bi (this one is BFDIA 5bii)
Goin’ Crazy!
Strats that are maybe possible part 2:
Level 7: before I said that you can clip through the moving spikes in level 7, but I know now, you can’t clip through moving objects, but what if you can clip on the second spike in level 7, then clip through the one-way platform right below the second spike
Level 20: you can maybe skip the lever by grab boosting on the right, under the spikes, similar to level 34 & 35
level 7: you can only clip into the left side of a block, so it doesn't work
level 20: there's not enough room on the right for book to get through
This is fricking crazy!
Coppersalts, I didn't even get to use the TAS version because of privacy error and domain expired.
Yeah, Inferno didn't renew his SSL certificate, so I had to switch to running it offline for this.
Improvements that could be made (idk if some of these are possible lol)
Level 7: maybe you can somehow skip waiting for the moving spiky balls by doing a wall clip? (Same with level 14)
Level 16: maybe you can somehow make a TAS String that can jump onto the highest purple spring without using the conveyor belt?
Level 17: maybe you can do a wall clip without flicking the lever?
Level 18: Why can't you do more spike clips, that could save some time.
Level 36 (question): how to do those left and right taps allow book to “clip” through the lever?
level 7 - not possible. you can only clip into the left side of a wall.
level 14 - nowhere where clipping would be helpful.
level 16 - pretty sure that's not possible. the high spring is positioned such that you need to gain speed from the conveyor.
level 17 - this level is extremely airtight when it comes to routing and I'm pretty sure there's nowhere where clipping would save time.
level 18 - those two spike clips that save time. the other ones are too far away to clip into them by a jump from the previous spikes.
level 36 - I have no idea how the glitch works; I didn't make that string and the person who did never explained how it worked
@@aboxofsnakemice1798if all of those tricks aren’t possible, is this the true limit?
@@RonnieKo-1210 no, I did save a little more time after uploading this, but that was just a few frames here and there. There's probably no way of knowing when we're at the limit - new discoveries could happen at any time
Coppersalts, why is there a green border showing on 47 complete%.
you should do a tas with no wall clips
possible route on level 16: just clip through the yellow wall, skipping the ENTIRE top section
there's no way to jump back out of the yellow block wall without book bonking her head on the top of the wall. If you go back across the bottom section to the yellow switch and back it's not faster
@@aboxofsnakemice1798 oh ok
some improvements (idk if some of these are possible.) level 8:jump at the right time from the bottom that should get you to clip through the wall from below!level 16:jump when you pass the spike above the first conveyor,it will land you at the bounce block. same goes for each area before a spike in the top area of the same level.level 21:clip through the one way platform with match,then grab match through it with book rest of the level is the same.
none of these are possible
Coppersalts, I got a 14.8 in level 5 finish% with 0 lag and on the HTML5 port!
nice job!
I also reuploaded my 3.7 / 4.7 runs for level 1 finish% / complete%.
Also question: Is there a reason my PrincessCelestia's 4.0 is invalid when the TAS limit is 4.0?
On level 3?
@@FairyGodmother-q1z the tas limit is 4.083 which I assume rounds up to 4.1, but I haven't really looked too far into the game's timing system
What is the link to 5b tas
infernity.dev/HTML5b
@@aboxofsnakemice1798dont work
@@irrelevant_channel link got changed. it's whirling.infernity.dev/HTML5b/ now
how do you grab boost that fast?
this is a TAS; I didn't do it by hand
@@aboxofsnakemice1798 i dont really know anything of a tas is it a macro?
@@bubbles3914 here I've meticulously preprogrammed every single input to create a theoretically perfect run. Though TASes are often _not_ perfect as humans are fallible and can miss optimizations. Here we've already shaved off about 6 seconds in a version that's not on youtube yet.
Coppersalts, you didn't realize that it's possible to get 222 frames on level 11?
Okay wow no idea how I didn't notice that. Thanks!
@aboxofsnakemice1798 Also edit the Human Theory TAS level 11 to 3.700
@@FairyGodmother-q1z I'll remember to do this when I get back to working on the human theory tas
@aboxofsnakemice1798 I am gonna be making a Segmented any% video, should I include runs faster than the TAS limit, or not include them.
@@FairyGodmother-q1z you should not include them
do glitchless speedrun tas now :)
there aren't that many glitches to begin with, so it wouldn't be too different. Grab boosts and box jumps aren't glitches, but rather exploits that could be hard to quantify in certain cases.
i mean expect these Grab boosts and box jumps
I mean these
Wall clip
wall grab that prob used in level 52
and pillar that used in level 22@@aboxofsnakemice1798
still, they're not used all that much throughout the run; they're only used for major skips in a few of the levels. I might consider making a no-brab boost TAS though.@@xFifaEuro271
i was going to change to no grab boost and glitchless tas but ok@@aboxofsnakemice1798
Me: Why don’t you spam fasting in level 1 to save some time
5 Seconds later me: oh, wait, flash player doesn’t register 1 frame taps, it needs to be at least 2 frames ahhhhhhhhh
But, Seriously, does the tas frame perfectly presses the enter key every other frame?
it does
if you get 4:1x on tas i will make bfdia5b tas explained (no joke)
I doubt that will ever happen; it's getting to the point where the most I can hope for is a couple frames here and there. Unless there are some huge discoveries it's unlikely to happen. I do actually have a TAS explained script already which I may make into an actual video at some point