2 Saturdays ago I started a huge experiment. I had just gotten my fall seed order from Prairie Moon. Seed packs are marked at $3 per packet in the fall than the $4 packet in the spring and they still give you free shipping for $100 in seeds, so it was like getting a few seed packets for free by ordering in the fall! Yippee! I am trying this fast method with 1/4 of the seeds in the seed packets. Another 1/4, I am doing the traditional C 30 for fall sowing. Another 1/4 will get C 30 in the March for spring sowing and summer planting. The last 1/4 I am going to try direct fall sowing for the 1st time. Thanks for giving me the courage to try new things!
Sure thing! What seeds did you get??? I love buying seeds, such an addiction! Just a note, the germination rate for the fast forward (fridge/freezer) gets the least germination of all the ways I have tried (except direct sowing). For the traditional C30, will these go in flats for the winter? I sow everything in the fall that is gonna go in flats outdoors just so they get the most cold stratification. I've had very poor germination with seeds that I direct sowed in the landscape, it's likely user error ;). Are you doing any of A type seeds now to jump start them for spring?
@@ninetypercentnative thanks for the information on germination rates. Yes, overwinter outdoors in flats. A first for me. 5 years ago I sowed Ninebark seeds in pots. They stayed outdoors for 3 years until they finally sprouted! I planted them this spring and all 12 are healthy and growing a lot! No A type seeds this year, just my native Wild Columbines that self-sow themselves every year.
@@ninetypercentnative I live in southestern Indiana, now zone 6A. However I live on an east-facing wooded hillside with a southern woodland hill beside our yard, so I still plant for Zone 5B. We warm up 1-2 weeks later in the spring than our neighbors in full sun at the top of the hill surrounded by farm fields. Our woodland is primarily all the 'black' trees. Black Walnut, Black Maple, Black Locust, Black Wild Cherry. With Cedars, Tulip Poplar, and tons of Hackberry. I do have a small area "up top" of our hillside in the sun. I planted a Wildlife Meadow there. The darn Walnut juglone is what led me to natives. I was tired of wasting my money on traditional landscaping plants that died in a week or a month. This fall, I bought seeds for Asclepias incarnata, sullivantii, tuberosa, and verticiliata. Baptisia alba. Blemphilia hirsuta. Cimicifuga racemosa. Cirsium discolor. Conoclinium coelestinum. Echinacea pallida and paradoxa. Eryngium yuccifolium. Eupatorium altissimum, perfoliatum, and serotinum. Filipendula rubra.Geranium maculatum. Helenium autumnale and flexuosum. Helianthus giganteus and pauciflorus. Hibiscus laevis. Liatris ligulistylus. Monarda bradburiana. Pedicularis canadensis. Penstemon digitalis. Symphyotrichum drummidii. Cinna arundinacea. Diarrhena americana. Eragrostis spectabilis. Anemonella thalictroides. Caulophyllum thalictroides. Isopyrum biternatum.
Oh wow I just checked out Wild Flower Farm. What a pleasant surprise , the couple’s farm is in Ontario, Canada where I grew up. What an amazing story and a very beautiful selection of wild native effortless plants ! Than you so much for sharing!
So far the Foxglove Beardtongue, Showy Sunflower, Boneset perf., Midland Shooting Star, and Tall Sunflower seeds which went thru the Fridge/Freezer fast stratification have sprouted!
In my zone (Ontario, Canada) I use winter sowing in jugs and plastic containers. This year I sowed some seeds in pots outside directly. But it is too early for us so nothing sprouted yet.
Hi Mirka! People have really great success with winter sowing in jugs! I tried it with success a few years back although I did fry some seedling because I didn't take tops off! ;)
I try it all, lol!🤣 I really need to start documenting the actual success rates when I use these different methods. I have used the freezer for 10 days before but I don’t remember the results. The most success I have is when I sow native seeds in deep cell flats in the late summer or fall (depending on cold stratification requirements) and I let nature take care of the stratification.
So just to be clear I am understanding any seeds that need cold stratification need to be moist you can't just do this with seed packets then? So essentially I can get them in paper towels and 24fridge-12to18 freezer for 7 days then I can plant start them? Now also once stratified would a heat mat be needed at all?
Hi Carmen! That is correct, cold moist stratification requires the moisture as it simulates the seed in the cold, moist dirt in nature. My preferred method is to use mother nature for the cold moist stratification in flats outside over the late fall and winter. Then I like the fridge, but you need to make sure the paper towel or coffee filter is just damp, too much moisture will encourage mold. Then the freezer method in 3rd place. I would give it a try, maybe not using all your seeds, to experiment what will work for you. If the seeds require 30 days cold moist stratification, I do a week on and off in the fridge/freezer, if 60 days are required I will push it to 10-14 days. There are a lot of native seeds that do not have any germination requirements and you can sow them right now. I think purple cone flower and the mountain mints are like that, but double check me.
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2 Saturdays ago I started a huge experiment. I had just gotten my fall seed order from Prairie Moon. Seed packs are marked at $3 per packet in the fall than the $4 packet in the spring and they still give you free shipping for $100 in seeds, so it was like getting a few seed packets for free by ordering in the fall! Yippee! I am trying this fast method with 1/4 of the seeds in the seed packets. Another 1/4, I am doing the traditional C 30 for fall sowing. Another 1/4 will get C 30 in the March for spring sowing and summer planting. The last 1/4 I am going to try direct fall sowing for the 1st time. Thanks for giving me the courage to try new things!
Sure thing! What seeds did you get??? I love buying seeds, such an addiction! Just a note, the germination rate for the fast forward (fridge/freezer) gets the least germination of all the ways I have tried (except direct sowing). For the traditional C30, will these go in flats for the winter? I sow everything in the fall that is gonna go in flats outdoors just so they get the most cold stratification. I've had very poor germination with seeds that I direct sowed in the landscape, it's likely user error ;). Are you doing any of A type seeds now to jump start them for spring?
@@ninetypercentnative thanks for the information on germination rates. Yes, overwinter outdoors in flats. A first for me.
5 years ago I sowed Ninebark seeds in pots. They stayed outdoors for 3 years until they finally sprouted! I planted them this spring and all 12 are healthy and growing a lot!
No A type seeds this year, just my native Wild Columbines that self-sow themselves every year.
@@ninetypercentnative I live in southestern Indiana, now zone 6A. However I live on an east-facing wooded hillside with a southern woodland hill beside our yard, so I still plant for Zone 5B. We warm up 1-2 weeks later in the spring than our neighbors in full sun at the top of the hill surrounded by farm fields.
Our woodland is primarily all the 'black' trees. Black Walnut, Black Maple, Black Locust, Black Wild Cherry. With Cedars, Tulip Poplar, and tons of Hackberry. I do have a small area "up top" of our hillside in the sun. I planted a Wildlife Meadow there. The darn Walnut juglone is what led me to natives. I was tired of wasting my money on traditional landscaping plants that died in a week or a month.
This fall, I bought seeds for Asclepias incarnata, sullivantii, tuberosa, and verticiliata. Baptisia alba. Blemphilia hirsuta. Cimicifuga racemosa. Cirsium discolor. Conoclinium coelestinum. Echinacea pallida and paradoxa. Eryngium yuccifolium. Eupatorium altissimum, perfoliatum, and serotinum. Filipendula rubra.Geranium maculatum. Helenium autumnale and flexuosum. Helianthus giganteus and pauciflorus. Hibiscus laevis. Liatris ligulistylus. Monarda bradburiana. Pedicularis canadensis. Penstemon digitalis. Symphyotrichum drummidii. Cinna arundinacea. Diarrhena americana. Eragrostis spectabilis. Anemonella thalictroides. Caulophyllum thalictroides. Isopyrum biternatum.
Oh wow I just checked out Wild Flower Farm. What a pleasant surprise , the couple’s farm is in Ontario, Canada where I grew up. What an amazing story and a very beautiful selection of wild native effortless plants ! Than you so much for sharing!
You are welcome!
So far the Foxglove Beardtongue, Showy Sunflower, Boneset perf., Midland Shooting Star, and Tall Sunflower seeds which went thru the Fridge/Freezer fast stratification have sprouted!
Yyyaaass, GGIIRRRLL!! 🎊🎊🎊
Excellent fast forward process
It's so helpful when I get that itch to germinate more native seeds and its the middle of summer!
Really nice video I learned so much ,thanks for sharing
Glad it was helpful!
i loved seeing all of the steps and information! great video 😁
Thanks so much! 😊
In my zone (Ontario, Canada) I use winter sowing in jugs and plastic containers. This year I sowed some seeds in pots outside directly. But it is too early for us so nothing sprouted yet.
Hi Mirka! People have really great success with winter sowing in jugs! I tried it with success a few years back although I did fry some seedling because I didn't take tops off! ;)
Great info!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for learning video 👌👌👌
It's my pleasure
Love the force cols
Stratify trick … what about if seeds need longer than 30 days , you do repeat the force cold stratify longer than 7 days cycle?
I try it all, lol!🤣 I really need to start documenting the actual success rates when I use these different methods. I have used the freezer for 10 days before but I don’t remember the results. The most success I have is when I sow native seeds in deep cell flats in the late summer or fall (depending on cold stratification requirements) and I let nature take care of the stratification.
I use soil moist polymer instead of coffee filters . Very easy to pluck sprouted seeds out of .
I will have to try that!
Chalk full of information
Thank you!
great information, thank you!
You bet!
So just to be clear I am understanding any seeds that need cold stratification need to be moist you can't just do this with seed packets then? So essentially I can get them in paper towels and 24fridge-12to18 freezer for 7 days then I can plant start them? Now also once stratified would a heat mat be needed at all?
Hi Carmen! That is correct, cold moist stratification requires the moisture as it simulates the seed in the cold, moist dirt in nature. My preferred method is to use mother nature for the cold moist stratification in flats outside over the late fall and winter. Then I like the fridge, but you need to make sure the paper towel or coffee filter is just damp, too much moisture will encourage mold. Then the freezer method in 3rd place. I would give it a try, maybe not using all your seeds, to experiment what will work for you. If the seeds require 30 days cold moist stratification, I do a week on and off in the fridge/freezer, if 60 days are required I will push it to 10-14 days. There are a lot of native seeds that do not have any germination requirements and you can sow them right now. I think purple cone flower and the mountain mints are like that, but double check me.