Fun set. Maybe I will get around to my efforts porting Cinelerra again but really haven't done much there since it came into and left the ports tree. I still have OpenOffice around after running into more/worse bugs with LibreOffice by comparison for some documents that served real work purposes. Some of the LibreOffice development is something I haven't cared for though for the majority of people's uses I do recommend it instead. obs-studio is great for live capturing content from multiple sources and gives some adjustment/filters as it comes in but I wouldn't say it replaces a good NLE workflow if it is not live. I'd rather see a low resolution window blown up big to see the discussed detail easily rather than leave it small with desktop, other windows, etc. that aren't relevant in the picture and a webcam showing you talking about what is on screen during an educational video that is now blurred by youtube and other processing steps until its harder to make out the relevant detail. That being said, webcam capture can have its purposes and place. How often do you put to expanding into tasks you currently know/use such as (examples) programming, databases, learning/exploring a new program for tasks you do now, etc.?
Very useful video. I use firefox, audacity, libreoffice, simplescreenrecorder, but i use Bluefish instead of vscode, Olive Editor instead of Kdenlive, finally i don't use email client. Thanks a lot 🙂
I have to disagree about Firefox; I've been using Iridium for a while now, and I love it. It starts off incredibly locked down, which is great from a privacy point-of-view, and you tweak the settings to something you feel comfortable with. Basically this is the complete opposite of most browsers. It's much sleeker than Chromium but, unfortunately, like all Chromium-based browsers, it is no longer able to sync your bookmarks thanks to Google stopping this for everything but Chrome. It's really worth a look, though, I highly recommend it.
I believe all OSS browers are made by imperialists and boarded up against the end-user. Haven't used Chromeium for a long time, but Firefox is unable to sroll and remeber it's position, has a serious delay in UI/keyboard input, during errors and warnings refuses to show what really happens, turns regulary into a zombie that needs a reboot.... Chrome plays kid and refuses to run as root while that has no technical barrier. My username is none of any browser's business.
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I see you use multiple monitor and mouse. I used to have the same setup with multiple keyboard, monitor and mouse. Now I use "Barrier" KVM, great pease of software.
which window manager you are using it looks awesome ? can you PLEASE make a video on getting this window manager installed and set up on freeBSD ? I want to get the same configuration on my machine.
Good one.. I have been using Thunderbird over 10 years, only for basic email functions. Everytime they make upgrades, it gets worse. For instance, having 'threads' in latest versions, drives me nuts. To get a single email I would need to click 3 times or more. Once, I begged them not to do any more developments in Thunderbird. Looking for alternatives. What's the email client you mentioned? SIlfeed ? Could not find it. Thanks,.
@@user-mr3mf8lo7y If it is 'needed', you would think that Thunderbird would have not let me disable it by default, though I guess there is a difference between disabling something and not having it. If I have to render a webpage in an email client, I'd rather use something like thunderbird where there's hopes of content blockers like ublock origin being available for it as there are a lot of non-ad things that should be removed from webpages and the typical html rendering is needed because they are loading remote content on the spot that was not emailed.
Awesome video. In my experience VS-Code seems to be a little hard to use on FreeBSD compared to Linux. The C/C++ extension pack from Microsoft for the most part works but, I intelli-sense and information popups still don't work for me. Still useful though.
Can't install VS Code from pkg anymore. Had to compile from ports. 12 hours of compiling later and 50gb of disk space (temporarily) later, it works just fine...
If I can use the same applications as in Linux using different layers and emulations, then why don't I just use Linux? Drivers for webcams and microphones are taken from Linux. Besides, you said yourself that hardware acceleration doesn't work there.
I'll be whining. Nothing revealing. I miss little-known programs with rare options that well-known programs don't have. Robonugge, you've made a few of these movies.
BSD is a complete failure. Its an example of what happens when random nerds with no skill in leadership or marketing or grand vision get ahold of huge project such as this. BSD should consolidate and absolutely destroy linux in marketshare, using the extreme levels of distro hell against it. It should learn from apple, create a product with beauty and friendliness, that people enjoy to use. RIght now main project like freebsd has no proper gui installer, even tho open source ones are available, it has no pretty desktop environment of its own, not even heavily forked existing gui etc, it comes CLI by default in 2023 and getting any gui is road hell to make to work even with provided scripts. It could be so so much more if the lazy devs were not stuck in 1985. Oh and it has youtubers advertising the use of limited selection of bsd software to create one of the worst video graphics and thumbnails people have ever seen . . . .all on 1993 CDE which is going to scare the living -smellything- out of people. Its like showing "top windows 11 software" using DOS Executive gui. While everyone can use whatever gui they personally prefer, some of then just dont emmm advertise well.
7:00 You certainly don't need VS Code to write code under a Unix-like OS such as FreeBSD. In fact, it may be a little sacrilegious to use such a tool from a draconian corporation like M$ on an open platform like FreeBSD. Invest the time and effort to learn emacs. Of course, vi is ubiquitous on Unix OS'es. But, emacs is in a very real sense a complete development environment.
C'mon friend... Colleague... I have FreeBSD on desctop since 4.4 version. And let me tell, all these soft is not related to FreeBSD with any bit. FreeBSD software are vidcontrol for example. BSD grep, bmake... BSD is not even software. It's a cathedral, it's an order in mind, it's a way to think and make high quality software like Darwin, Quartz, MacOS... It's a best school for those who want to make himself a high-end professional.
Aww you beat me; I was given a disc with v4 on it from a friend but I ended up going with a newer release 5.2.1 or something as I got going. I kinda want to go back to learn the ways of setting up /dev/ entries back then. Though those programs are not BSD nor do they show obvious signs of being based off of or built with it in mind, its nice to see what can be used on the OS. Firefox imported its memory manager from FreeBSD's memory management development effort years ago though due to their effort of changes/integration they have not been able to continue to import changes from its upstream and that upstream has since expanded it over to support more than FreeBSD. Thought there was an impact on how they distribute updates but don't know if such changes are even still relevant in newest versions.
This is a video about desktop applications that run natively on FreeBSD, not command line utilities or applications that have taken bits from it. It's a great video for people who want to use BSD on their desktops, but who aren't sure how productive they can be.
@@whetphish Those people you're talking about, they are not ready for FreeBSD. If they are, they need no any video. And I did talk about other thing. This softlist are not related to FreeBSD. Most of them are GNU and can be compiled on any POSIX system. Windows included. Especially after a moment when GTK and QT ported to GDI. Should I say it's a windows software after this fact? FreeBSD on desktop is useful for one reason: to become very great software developer through pain and blood. Not to run Gimp/Dia/InkScape/whatever.
@@mirror1766 I use it till now) 4.4 was first. Then 4.6.2. And then most longterm relation with 6.3 version for about 15 years on one laptop. No updates, no recompiles, no reinstallation, just sweat usage. We made together about 12 millions dollars. Now I am in process of switching to 12.3. I was absolutely crazy about KMS feature! This is most wonderful gift I've ever recieved in my life) I dreamt about it about 25 years since ZX Spectrum.
I love this type of video, it's great to get an experienced BSDers opinion on apps and which ones they use.
Thank you BSD Junkie!
Fun set. Maybe I will get around to my efforts porting Cinelerra again but really haven't done much there since it came into and left the ports tree. I still have OpenOffice around after running into more/worse bugs with LibreOffice by comparison for some documents that served real work purposes. Some of the LibreOffice development is something I haven't cared for though for the majority of people's uses I do recommend it instead. obs-studio is great for live capturing content from multiple sources and gives some adjustment/filters as it comes in but I wouldn't say it replaces a good NLE workflow if it is not live.
I'd rather see a low resolution window blown up big to see the discussed detail easily rather than leave it small with desktop, other windows, etc. that aren't relevant in the picture and a webcam showing you talking about what is on screen during an educational video that is now blurred by youtube and other processing steps until its harder to make out the relevant detail. That being said, webcam capture can have its purposes and place.
How often do you put to expanding into tasks you currently know/use such as (examples) programming, databases, learning/exploring a new program for tasks you do now, etc.?
Very useful video. I use firefox, audacity, libreoffice, simplescreenrecorder, but i use Bluefish instead of vscode, Olive Editor instead of Kdenlive, finally i don't use email client. Thanks a lot 🙂
Some great alternatives there....!
I have to disagree about Firefox; I've been using Iridium for a while now, and I love it. It starts off incredibly locked down, which is great from a privacy point-of-view, and you tweak the settings to something you feel comfortable with. Basically this is the complete opposite of most browsers. It's much sleeker than Chromium but, unfortunately, like all Chromium-based browsers, it is no longer able to sync your bookmarks thanks to Google stopping this for everything but Chrome. It's really worth a look, though, I highly recommend it.
I believe all OSS browers are made by imperialists and boarded up against the end-user. Haven't used Chromeium for a long time, but Firefox is unable to sroll and remeber it's position, has a serious delay in UI/keyboard input, during errors and warnings refuses to show what really happens, turns regulary into a zombie that needs a reboot....
Chrome plays kid and refuses to run as root while that has no technical barrier. My username is none of any browser's business.
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I see you use multiple monitor and mouse. I used to have the same setup with multiple keyboard, monitor and mouse. Now I use "Barrier" KVM, great pease of software.
I wish other YT channels had your cadence and mic quality.
Thank you Soma!
Thank you very much.
Great video Robonuggie. ♥️
Thank you Jonathan!
@@RoboNuggie you welcome. You are the best when it comes to freebsd. Although I prefer Linux. Your channel has shown me a lot that freebsd can do. 😃
I use 13.2 RC5 and I don't see vscode in the packages. The port compilation gives me a fatal error. Maybe they removed it?
which window manager you are using it looks awesome ? can you PLEASE make a video on getting this window manager installed and set up on freeBSD ? I want to get the same configuration on my machine.
I think it's CDE or nsCDE. I think he's made videos about both.
You must include FeatherPad as text editor. Extremely fast.
Oh yes.... that slipped me by...cheers!
Something the Editor of the video sould have done in description
sudo pkg install -y libreoffice
sudo pkg install -y kdenlive
sudo pkg install -y firefox
sudo pkg install -y audacity
sudo pkg install -y inkscape
sudo pkg install -y vscode
sudo pkg install -y cawbird
sudo pkg install -y simplescreenrecorder
sudo pkg install -y thunderbird
Good one.. I have been using Thunderbird over 10 years, only for basic email functions. Everytime they make upgrades, it gets worse. For instance, having 'threads' in latest versions, drives me nuts. To get a single email I would need to click 3 times or more. Once, I begged them not to do any more developments in Thunderbird.
Looking for alternatives. What's the email client you mentioned? SIlfeed ? Could not find it. Thanks,.
It's sylpheed, and it is the email client that claws email was spun or split from...
@@RoboNuggie It certainly has a merit.. However, lacks HTMl redering. Like it or not, year 2022, we need that.
@@user-mr3mf8lo7y If it is 'needed', you would think that Thunderbird would have not let me disable it by default, though I guess there is a difference between disabling something and not having it. If I have to render a webpage in an email client, I'd rather use something like thunderbird where there's hopes of content blockers like ublock origin being available for it as there are a lot of non-ad things that should be removed from webpages and the typical html rendering is needed because they are loading remote content on the spot that was not emailed.
@@mirror1766 For that Thunderbird has a feature of 'block remote content'. And does a good job. Let's not mix up apples and oranges.
Awesome video. In my experience VS-Code seems to be a little hard to use on FreeBSD compared to Linux.
The C/C++ extension pack from Microsoft for the most part works but, I intelli-sense and information popups still don't work for me.
Still useful though.
Robo, any chance we will see a video where you share your take on xorg vs wayland on FreeBSD?
I've never used Wayland.... but that's a great idea - I'll put it on the 'todo' list! Cheers :-)
@@RoboNuggie awesome can’t wait :) just opened a poll on r/FreeBSD apparently it’s pretty tie.. tbh I was not able to get wayland running there yet
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daVinci Resolve is available for Linux. For FreeBSD?
Sorry for the late reply, no it's not sadly....
Can't install VS Code from pkg anymore.
Had to compile from ports.
12 hours of compiling later and 50gb of disk space (temporarily) later, it works just fine...
Robo thank you mate
is there any graphical epub reader in bsd? I've been using epy
take a look at foliate
Have to disagree with simplescreenrecorder. Just installed but could not get a screen to be recorded.
I've never had any issues, I found some people had issues until they added kern.ipc.shm_allow_removed=1 to the /etc/sysctl.conf
If I can use the same applications as in Linux using different layers and emulations, then why don't I just use Linux? Drivers for webcams and microphones are taken from Linux. Besides, you said yourself that hardware acceleration doesn't work there.
I'll be whining. Nothing revealing. I miss little-known programs with rare options that well-known programs don't have. Robonugge, you've made a few of these movies.
9:48 face reveal! You don't look like a ghoulish fiend!!!
Aww, thank you Esra :-)
BSD is a complete failure. Its an example of what happens when random nerds with no skill in leadership or marketing or grand vision get ahold of huge project such as this. BSD should consolidate and absolutely destroy linux in marketshare, using the extreme levels of distro hell against it. It should learn from apple, create a product with beauty and friendliness, that people enjoy to use.
RIght now main project like freebsd has no proper gui installer, even tho open source ones are available, it has no pretty desktop environment of its own, not even heavily forked existing gui etc, it comes CLI by default in 2023 and getting any gui is road hell to make to work even with provided scripts. It could be so so much more if the lazy devs were not stuck in 1985.
Oh and it has youtubers advertising the use of limited selection of bsd software to create one of the worst video graphics and thumbnails people have ever seen . . . .all on 1993 CDE which is going to scare the living -smellything- out of people. Its like showing "top windows 11 software" using DOS Executive gui. While everyone can use whatever gui they personally prefer, some of then just dont emmm advertise well.
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7:00 You certainly don't need VS Code to write code under a Unix-like OS such as FreeBSD. In fact, it may be a little sacrilegious to use such a tool from a draconian corporation like M$ on an open platform like FreeBSD. Invest the time and effort to learn emacs. Of course, vi is ubiquitous on Unix OS'es. But, emacs is in a very real sense a complete development environment.
C'mon friend... Colleague... I have FreeBSD on desctop since 4.4 version. And let me tell, all these soft is not related to FreeBSD with any bit. FreeBSD software are vidcontrol for example. BSD grep, bmake... BSD is not even software. It's a cathedral, it's an order in mind, it's a way to think and make high quality software like Darwin, Quartz, MacOS... It's a best school for those who want to make himself a high-end professional.
Aww you beat me; I was given a disc with v4 on it from a friend but I ended up going with a newer release 5.2.1 or something as I got going. I kinda want to go back to learn the ways of setting up /dev/ entries back then. Though those programs are not BSD nor do they show obvious signs of being based off of or built with it in mind, its nice to see what can be used on the OS. Firefox imported its memory manager from FreeBSD's memory management development effort years ago though due to their effort of changes/integration they have not been able to continue to import changes from its upstream and that upstream has since expanded it over to support more than FreeBSD. Thought there was an impact on how they distribute updates but don't know if such changes are even still relevant in newest versions.
This is a video about desktop applications that run natively on FreeBSD, not command line utilities or applications that have taken bits from it. It's a great video for people who want to use BSD on their desktops, but who aren't sure how productive they can be.
@@whetphish Those people you're talking about, they are not ready for FreeBSD. If they are, they need no any video. And I did talk about other thing. This softlist are not related to FreeBSD. Most of them are GNU and can be compiled on any POSIX system. Windows included. Especially after a moment when GTK and QT ported to GDI. Should I say it's a windows software after this fact?
FreeBSD on desktop is useful for one reason: to become very great software developer through pain and blood. Not to run Gimp/Dia/InkScape/whatever.
@@mirror1766 I use it till now) 4.4 was first. Then 4.6.2. And then most longterm relation with 6.3 version for about 15 years on one laptop. No updates, no recompiles, no reinstallation, just sweat usage. We made together about 12 millions dollars. Now I am in process of switching to 12.3. I was absolutely crazy about KMS feature! This is most wonderful gift I've ever recieved in my life) I dreamt about it about 25 years since ZX Spectrum.
Very nice video thanks