My House had no Footer Drain Tile! Water in Crawlspace FIX
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- Опубликовано: 2 дек 2019
- This was my journey installing a 60 foot run of outside footer tile. Our crawl space was getting water into it from one side of the house during several inches of rain over a short period of time. The crawl space also has no inside perimeter tile. I was told you can not stop water from entering beneath the house, you need to install the inner perimeter tile around the footer and take it to a sump pit.
I wanted to do all I could to prevent water from entering from the outside. This is my attempt.
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“So I had this brainstorm! I don’t get many” 😂 dude literally speaks for every guy in the world when he said that lol! Excellent video.
Thank you so much for watching and commenting!
Man, I'm so glad you took the trouble to film this and talk your way through it. Your situation mirrors mine almost perfectly and I think this is the solution I'm going to peruse.
Thanks a lot Box5150! A project like this can be done as a DIYer and save you thousands of dollars. In my situation I had to wait for the dry time of year for the final digging, which is July, August, and September. I had a period of time where in 2 months I only had about 2 inches of rain.
I sure hope it works out okay for you!
Have a good one and stay safe!
We had a similar problem in black forest, colorado years ago, however, we didnot dig near the footer, but 10 away...We solved nothing (sad face). Anyway fast forward 12 years, now in upstate new york with a basment. I am wondering how deep I have to dig this, the water seems only to be seeping in on the north side of the house...
@@MikeSheasheaDtree like he showed you are going to have to get your entire drainage pipe below your slab or beside the lower portion of your footer if you want to be safe! much luck to you!
Same, this is the best video about this because it just.. exists. It's like hanging out for the day with a neighbor and going "damn I'm doing that at my place now too"
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You seriously did this the right way. This is probably exactly how the French Drain man channel,would have done it. Nice work.
Thanks! I appreciate the comment!
I can't believe how much water is going in there. Good video.
Thanks!
24:31 watching that water streaming in and everything working as it should be is so satisfying. Great video and great job. That's pretty damn good for your first rodeo. :)
It sure was satisfying! Another thing that is extremely satisfying is people like you, who watch and leave comments like this one!
I really appreciate the time you took to watch and comment.
Stay safe!
No one would know this was your 1st time except you told us! Excellent research and thorough craftsmanship in how you put it all together! I hope it gives you many years of a dry basement or crawlspace! :) Much Success to You!
Wow, thanks!
I really appreciate the comment!
Mate, honestly that is one cool video! Thanks very much for capturing all that and narrating each step. Out of all the videos on this subject I’ve watched yours is right at the top 👌🍻
Thanks a ton!
As a Canadian, I can only marvel at the option of having an exterior sump pump.
Awesome job and documentation!!! Gotta feel incredibly satisfying!!
Thank you Guido! I appreciate you watching!
I loved SNL in the 70s :)
hey just want to say this video is great, very clean job on the project itself and super well edited. very easy to follow and very concise. keep up the great work.
Glad you liked it!
I appreciate you watching!
Thanks for taking the time to share this. It was informative and you're great to listen to.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment too!
Stay safe!
Thanks for sharing this journey. By the end even I was happy to see it working so well.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This pretty much mirrors my situation I'm currently in. Thank you very much, might be the best video I've watched on footers drains. It will be very helpful in the next month or two.
You're very welcome!
Just wanted to add that I like the many viewers that you see here really appreciate you taking the time to put together an "Idiot Proof " video all while trying to figure out how you were going to complete this project on your own no less. Thank you so much sir and yes, I did subscribe and will keep in touch!
Jeff, I really appreciate you watching and your comment!
Thank you and stay safe!
Great job! Really appreciate you taking the time/effort to do all this and record it too!.Just great, thank-you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
High quality content. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Remember all the Ps, `Perfect Preparation Prevents Poor Performance `, you sir are a Star ! marvellous job
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I really appreciate it!
Stay safe!!
Thanks for this video. I have spent a lot of time researching this problem just like you have. Home inspectors often do not look for this kind of thing you pretty much have to do the investigations on your own.
Hi tee kay! You are right in that you are on your own in these kind of "water" projects. Also as you go out and seek opinions and recommendations....no two will be alike!
Thanks for watching!
Truly a great video. No messing about, to the point, and honest about your mistakes. Thanks for making videos that we can all learn from. Much appreciated!
I appreciate that!
Awesome video. Thanks for sharing!
You bet!
Where I'm from we put a sheet of 5mil poly on top of rubber membrane when it's still sticky, then put a dimpled plastic sheeting screwed to wall on top. The dimpling product, dimpled toward wall to allow any residue water to fall to footing, helps keep water from getting to the wall from the backfill through hydrostatic pressure. We also fill with 3/4" to 1" locking aggregate around drain/ weep pipe because it resists infiltration from clay and compaction, and allows good drain to weep pipe. We also fill gravel to top of dimpled membrane leaving a border around house so clay does not migrate to weep pipe that can be dressed with peastone. God bless.
Thanks! It sure sounds like you have a good system worked out!
Stay safe!
I'll hopefully never have to do this myself, but nevertheless I watched the entire video because I like your style! Subscribed!
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!
I really appreciate it!
Stay safe!
Excellent job and narration. Thanks!
Hi whaczup!
Thank you for watching and your comment!
Have a good one!
Awesome DIY and very effective! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Good work. As a homeowner, we actually don't want to be doing this stuff ourselves. But we have to.
When I did mine, I could watch the pipes going into the sump and the water absolutely poured out of the pipes into the sump. Really satisfying.
I was lucky, I could run an outlet pipe to road storm water, so no sump pump required.
I enjoy building stuff so when I encounter problems I enjoy finding the solutions and fixing them.
Thanks Breen! That is a good situation when you can run the discharge to a road ditch or storm drain and allow good old gravity to do all the work.
Have a good one!
This. I love doing these projects but sometimes I want to have someone else do it if I'm busy. The problem isn't that I'm not willing to pay...the problem is that these companies these days have no business ethic. You can call them and they say they will be there but never show up. Well, this is the case in the country where I live.
I like to use a sump switch called level guard. A little pricey but it lets you pick at what point the pump turns on. If you use it in that pump just be sure to permanently engage the float switch on it. Nice work!
Hi Matthew and thanks for watching and commenting!
The Level Guard is real high on my "to get" list. I can add about 8 inches of water to the kick on level and that would take hundreds of short cycles off the Zoeller.
Thanks again!
Great work! I’m leaving feeling inspired. Just like yourself, I pickup a lot from Apple drain. Thanks!
Hi Ja, I really appreciate your comment!
Thank you for watching!
This guy is awesome. Thanks for filming this
Thank you Joe for taking your time and watching this video!!
Stay safe!!
It *is* amazing what sorts of "archaeology" you get into when you start digging. "Well, I don't want to pay any dump fees, so I'll just get rid of this scrap metal, tile, brick, concrete, whatever..." :-(
Thanks for the video!
My thoughts exactly!!
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Scrap metal sounds like a bad idea I think stick to good old rock and brick.
you can always add a timer relay on the pump plug, so it will limit the short cycles. allow the sump to fill up more
Awesome video, thanks for posting! Also very nice to see the pump working in the end!
Thanks for watching!
TY so very much 4 all yourDIY info and filming your wok. Awesome buddy. Job welldone.Your blood, sweat and tears is much appreciated.
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You might want to drill a 1/4 inch hole into the discharge pipe about 2 inches above the pump. If you get an air bubble in the pump volute, this small hole will give the air a place to escape. You also might want to tie a string onto the float arm so you can tug the string and test the pump.
Thanks Steve! I like the float string idea, I'll do that.
The check valve (a Zoeller) has the hole predrilled in it.
Stay safe!
One trick to avoid the short cycles is to use a timer, we use one that plugs into the power socket of the pump cable in the house.
The timer is set to 20 minutes, which is enough for the sump to fill up...
I like that idea!
Thanks!
This is what I use to stop the frequent cycling. You can space the sensors as far apart in your sump as you want. It comes on when the top sensor comes in contact with water and off when the bottom sensor is not submerged any more. I also have the time sensor for an in ground trampoline, works beautifully.
HydroCheck Sump Pump Float Switch with Hi-Lo Dual Sensors and Built-in Alarms
@@weejohnbb I just installed thie unit as well. Most pumps have too short a throw on their floats I like adjusting it myself
Not bad for a old farm boy.thank you for sharing your time
Thank you for watching!
Have a good one!!
Good ol’ fashioned hard work right here. Well done, thanks for filming.
Much appreciated!
I've probably watched over a hundred of Chuck's Apple Drain videos but I've got to admit this install is absolutely top-notch.. If Chuck ever sees your install he's going to be very impressed! One thing Chuck doesn't do much is show the system in action during a massive storm. Hopefully a huge storm comes in and you can show off a bone dry crawl space. BTW - you come across as a nerdy farmer, which is to say you sound like you've got a really high IQ combined with a "I'll figure it out" attitude. I suspect you'd do really well if you lived here in Silicon Valley.
Hi Donald! I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment on this video.
I will in fact, show a follow up video in the spring and include photos of water in the crawlspace.
After this install, the Kentuckiana area went through the driest August and September and half of October since 1875. During those 75 days at my house, we got less than 2 inches of rain. Crops suffered, but late season soybeans suffered the most. Have a great 2020!
You may very well have a point, to me as a Brit he encompasses rural America, and the capability of taking on any task, and actually succeeding.
As I result I’m fascinated by things like this.
And as the Apple Drains man himself says, ‘If you believe in yourself, you can do it’.
Not a bad adage to live your life by.
Best of luck to the farming community worldwide, and to everyone affected by adverse weather, and water.
most farmers are incredibly nerdy individuals. they might speak with an accent or drawl, but they are some intelligent mother fuckers. You cant be a dummy and manage that kind of cluster fuck well enough to make it turn a buck.
Good job. It appears you've been watching alot of Chuck/Apple drain videos.
Hi Mo and thanks for watching and commenting!
I watched all I could on RUclips and even then, you have to read between the lines.
Lots of videos show drain tile work but in sandy soil and I'm in heavy clay.
Only time will tell!
Have a great 2020!
Have You Seen French Drain Man on RUclips. He Works On Clay Soil in Michigan...
I do a lot of slip repair and french drains with what I do and as far as being spot on to how things should be done according to the codes we have to follow and how they want them done french drain man on here does it the best. If you ever have to do this again or another one I suggest you watch his videos. Best of luck!
Thanks. I’ve been looking at French drains. My son has a water problem that needs attention like right now. This really gives me some insight into what we need to do.
Hi Danny, my advice is do your research which is mainly your soil type and ground/drain condition.
Two of RUclipss best channels on drainage is located in Florida and Michigan. I live in between so my mileage will vary.
Good luck to you and work safe!
great job! I have a lot smaller problem with water here in AZ. The last couple days over 2 inches of rain, unheard of for us, thinking of something similar for our monsoon season. Thanks for taking the time and effort for posting.
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That no hub fitting should work just fine, it’s not like yer running 80 psi and if it does leak it just goes back down to the bottom of the sump.
Thanks, it's in an easy place to get to also.
Have a good one!
You can install a float higher up with a timer connected to a heavy duty relay and not short cycle as much if needed
Hi garagekeys and thanks for watching!
I just saw that remote adjustable float while searching for short cycle info and I'll be digging into that this summer.
Sir, you did an outstanding job on the project and taking us through it. Respect and Thank You.
Much appreciated!
Excellent work! The end result looks great!🙂👍
Thank you very much!
Basically you have a moat. Every boy's dream.
Maybe you can lengthen the cycles by getting a different float switch.
Thanks Many, that's what I'm going to look into.
Have a good one!
@@pmtips4482 I was thinking a ball valve to throttle the output. That would do the trick!
I’m am very impressed with how you went about this whole process. Hats off to you sir 👍
Thank you very much!
I really enjoyed watching thanks for sharing
You are so welcome!
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Call French Drain Man...
Good video. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day.
Thank you! You too!
Excellent video! Very detailed. 👍🏽
Thank you! 👍
OMG dug a trench around my entire house in 1998, built an outdoor sump pit, and pumped the water out to the drainage ditch in the front yard.
Very good of you to make this video, Sir. Thank you.
You are very welcome!
Good job! I've been watching videos for a while now getting ideas. You're right, no two are the same. I'm in the northeast (NJ) but it's been raining a lot, the weather pattern has changed.
I'll be installing a yard drain system soon.
thanks for the video and good luck with your system.
Thank you for watching!
I wish you the best on your upcoming project too!!
This video was awesome thank you so much for making this. Details matter thank you for sharing it all !!
You are so welcome!
Wow! That was so satisfying to watch it working in the end! Beautiful job!
Thank you for watching!
One of the best videos out there on drainage. Great work man.
Wow, thanks!
Thank you so much, Sir. I learned a lot in this video!!♡
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I really appreciate it!
I was looking for a solution for a quarter as big a problem needing a quarter as much work but I enjoyed your explanation and appreciated how thorough you were that I watched the whole thing and subscribed. I’ll definitely be using this video for reference as I get started on my own project.
Thank you for watching!
Good luck to you!
A massive ty! I saw what looked like a natural spring coming from beneath the foundation of my house this morning. It's water entering from the rear and under my foundation. I'm pretty sure you cleared this up for me! Ty, again!
I hope you are able to make an effective intercept drain and get it diverted.
Thank you!
Great video and thanks for detailing each step. Good to see it works.
Thanks for watching!
Great job, great video........beautiful property
Thank you!
Thank you for all the helpful tips
You are so welcome!
very good video and your method of deduction was excellent. and yes. every house and the area is different but you have done a excellent job. remember to do the maint on the pump since it will during rainy season short cycle. I am very impressed at what you have done. as a licensed plumber and builder, I find so many lots that are built too low due to buildup costs and no fore thought put into keep the foundation from becoming saturated. Well done!
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I watched a ton of videos on this ,including Chuck from Apple drain all very informative.
I must say, you really did a great job on the whole thing start to finish .The way you explain it all so clear and to the point was captivating and no bs.Your honesty is what we appreciate too, not nany people can do that. You said your 1st rodeo, but you made that job look like you've done it 1,500 times. Im having to do the same thing, Im confused on doing inside or outside of my wall? I have full access to crawel space, new build, no floor yet.
Thank you!
If it's not too late, I would talk to some contractors in your area on advice for coating inside or outside of the blocks. I like the concept of outside coating just because it will prevent lots of moisture and even subsurface water from migrating inside the blocks.
Thanks for watching and good luck!
Very nicely done-both drain and video. I’m glad you took the time to film and insert the short splices. The hub in the basin is a good idea in case maintenance is needed. Also good idea to wrap the NDS and the #8 seems to let water through just fine.
Thank you very much!
very bad idea to wrap the pipe. The fines will have it sealed within a few years
Great video. Thank you Sir.
Had to do something similar years ago. We put 1-2" polystyrene sheets between the tar paint on the walls and backfill to protect it/ stop it getting scraped. 5 years on it seems to be working still.
Thanks! That is a good idea!
Hi brilliant 👏 I my self have built a timber frame extension. Heavy clay footings. A high watertable area in a wet winter. Started as you done before seeing your video. It's given me great confidence in what I decided to do before I back to back filling my footings . Good video good advice 👍cheers from old boy from over the water. Tim
Wow. Fantastic job!
Thank you very much!
Great job and attention to detail!
Thank you! Cheers!
Nice work on the project and on the video. I have had similar issues with water filling up inside crawlspace around the foundation, very similar situation to your's. This issue with my new built home was that the foundations on front side of house are about 4 feet below grade and topography of yard allowed water to flow towards the house.
After the blocks for my house were laid, they back-filled the soil against the block work, with no drains or any type of water-proofing. That soft back fill zone, that had previously been the trench around the block work, extends out about 4 feet from the block wall perimeter of house, and the soft soil tends to settle over the years. It's still settling after 20 years living here.
When rain over-flows gutters, or runs off side of house and falls directly on this soft back-filled zone, it can easily percolates right down to the foundation and comes into the crawlspace. I actually think that may be where a lot of your water was coming from, though you said it wasn't coming from above and was subsurface.
My first successful low budget project to stop all water from coming into crawlspace involved berming or ramping up the soil against house and re-sloping the grade so water would flow quickly away from the house without any pooling. Most importantly, on top of the back-filled zone (now sloped) I laid down a heavy duty pond liner material or black plastic, and then concreted it against the block work so there was no gap for surface water to percolate downward. This surface liner extended out from the side of house by at least 5 feet to fully create a non-permeable membrane over the entire soft back-fill zone. I also dug ditches to carry the water away from house faster and later extended the membrane area.
My method kept the crawlspace very dry for many years, but as the soil continues to settle in that soft back-fill zone around the perimeter of the house, an air space of several inches right at the house wall developed between membrane and soil as the grade continues to slowly settle. The concrete and plastic degraded or broke way and there is now a gaps and slop issues in spots. So I'll have to re-do some sections. But overall it's been an effective and cheap way to stop the water filling the foundation zone. I've seen a lot of houses with similar issues that could be remedied with this same simple cheap method. Nevertheless, I'm not a fan of crawlspaces. I think my next house will be like one you might see at the beach...built on pilings. lol
Sir, you are an incredible teacher and, you know your subject thoroughly. This is one of the best tutorials I have seen on any subject. General contractors take note; this, is how a job should be done.
You're very welcome!
Thanks for sharing. I learned so much.
You are so welcome!
You did awesome Mr. P.T. Very good video and commentary.
Thank you kindly!
Excellent. Just completed a similar job on my house for the same reasons. The ground water flow is amazing. I won’t know for a month or two if I’m done or whether I’ll need more work. Thanks for taking the time to show your work.
Glad it helped!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Really great job sir. That's not easy work and it seems you researched every aspect of the job kudos to you.
Thank you very much!
Very, very, well done video! Liked the way you talked on point about each section you were doing. Even on good videos the people stray and talk about other things and it dilutes what you really need to hear. You did a high quality job, very informative video.
I appreciate that!
Thank you so much for watching and commenting!
Good job! Congrats and thanks for sharing the video.
Thanks for watching!
Yeah! You have a real problem there PM! Nice job putting in the sump pump. It looks like it's going to work good for you! Keep me updated on how well it works. Have a good week!
Thanks John! So far so good! I have to run permanent 120 volt power next year to that outside corner of the house and not sure how to go about it yet. I'll check on codes before I start but no hurry on that job.
Take care!
Awesome job.👍 If I had to do that on my home. I'd do it just like that.😁
This man will put work the majority of the men in the USA! Great job!
Thanks M W, I really appreciate you watching and commenting!
Stay safe!
Great video, excellent work. Thank you. :)
My hats off to you. Great video and fix 👍
Thanks 👍
I started using the blue pvc cement too in recent years, works great for me, and I like the color
It is good stuff, supposedly made for wet conditions. Perfect for a sump pump discharge!
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Thank you, your video was so helpful. Our house has no footer drain and this design would totally work for our house. We will try to install one just like this in the summer.
You're very welcome!
You are doing great on this 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Awesome job. I wish you had been my instructor for Hydro Engr. course waaaay back in school. Good Work, Sir!
Wow, thanks!
great work! Super satisfying to do all that yourself. Researching, planning then doing... Well done mate! :)
Thanks! 👍
OUTSTANDING job
Thank you James!!
Good work ! Good video. Satisfying results !
Glad you enjoyed it!
Well done and very good narration. Very informative and youve done a few things i would not think about, so you tought me something! thank you and i will implement it if troubled by water intake in crawlspace or basement.
Thumbs up !
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent video! Very well explained. You took a lot of things into consideration. Will have to check standing water issue in our soil too. We live in TN and have clay soil.
We have to fix our gutters first. Soil grading is also a huge issue. People we bought the house from did some weird landscaping and did not maintain the gutters. Getting water in the crawl space and basement. I’d rather do it myself because I trust my own work.
Thanks for the video!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for watching!
I would like to see a follow up video and the crawl space, very nice install gonna have to do the same myself here soon.
I do have some before and after pics. I will work on a future video. The only drawbacks I face is my editor software is 10 year old iMovie and will not import photos from the original "photo" file which came on the iMac when purchased, and the original iPhoto does not properly update because it does not recognize my PC even though it was bought at a genuine Apple store in Columbus, Ohio......very frustrating!!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Also, do all you can yourself as contractors are insanely expensive (around here anyway).
I can't get a contractor out for a job anymore for less than 10,000 dollars. It's just crazy.
Cool video, I had similar issue in a house. What I did was regrade the area around the house. Keeps the problem away from the house.
Great bit of work 🙌🏻
Thank you! Cheers!
Great job. I had a similar set up and ended up raising my pump a bit higher from the bottom with more blocks and reduced the cycling frequency. It’s remarkable how much water the Zoeller pumps out.
Great tip!
Thanks for watching!
WOW!! super nice job !!
Thank you very much!
pretty cool to see. Good job
Thank you! Cheers!
Blueskin WP200 was the solution I would have chosen for sure. You taught me a few things!
Thank you for watching!