very few history buffs know this...but WW2 weapons, including the atomic bombs used, could not kill deer post war. People had to take them home, modify them in order to win the war against deer. This left the original ww2 weaponry changed forever. Any weapon still in its original state can be seen un museums under the "times where deer were invincible" section.
Got a sporterized 1903a3 and brought it back to its old glory. Thankfully the previous owner replaced the rear sight with a mount and didn't drill holes into the receiver. All that needed replacing was the wood, bands and a new front and rear sight. Totally worth it.
Fudds and Bubbas worldwide cried out in pain at the publishing of this video - sensing a disturbance in the force. "What!?", they cried, "M-must rechamber to an obscure wildcat!....Must unnecessarily refinish!....Must d-drill and TAAAAAPPPPP!!!". But, fortunately for milsurps everywhere, one man stood up and simply said "No."
What so another rifle can sit in a safe and never get used for what it was meant to be used for. That's like getting your wife a boob job and never touching them.if the rifle hasn't had the barrel cut or the receiver scrubbed off of all the original marks. Then you return to original condition. I have a 1927 03 that was done in the sixties with a pachmyr stock then before I got it the gentleman put a Krieger barrel on it. That's been my go to rifle for hunting. I gave that to my son because he shot his first deer with it .10 years ago I found a GEW 98 1916 in a gun shop in Billings Montana that has a beautiful wood stock on rebarreled and chamber in 264WM . I also have a 1939 Orbendorf K98 that had been tapped. I replaced the stock and mounted a early 1950s weaver on it and I use it during elk and bear season. my latest is a 6/42 Remington 03 that the rear sight had been removed and a redfield peep had been mounted on the receiver. Great for target shooting,no good for hunting cannot see the front sight in the timber here in western Montana. It had some holes in the upper receiver for some sort of scope mounts but nothing I could match up . The gunsmith that put the lilja barrel on my M70 took it tried to match it up with some of bases that his dad had in the back of the shop and ended up with weaver base on it. I sent Vintage gun scopes on of my weaver steel tubes and they put new glass and purged it . I haven't made meat with that yet but I will. That's also the one in the butt stock there was the Bill of sale from DCM camp perry 1968
I fell off the mauser cliff at 18 When i started “big game” hunting in the southern USA with a 1895 Chilean 7x57. I killed so many deer with that old “army” gun it was probably illegal (😁) But now in the midlife crisis years I’m still building sporterized Mauser hunting rifles in all the Ackley calibers I can find and if I had it all to do over again I can honestly say I would quadruple my collection It’s been one of the best hobbies I’ve ever taken up Good looking Cz and great job on the oxblue
By the time I came of age a non matching worn out German mausers were going for $300 and parts matching ones went from $600-$1000. It makes me want to slap people who had the opportunity to pick them up for pocket change.
I bought a Minnelli stock and was super impressed with it, fit like a glove only issue is the bolt take down disc went in too deep, two washers and it’s fixed. It is now on my 1933 standard modell
GOOD WORK!!!!! IV'E RESTORED SEVERAL OLD SPORTERIZED RIFLES BACK TO ORIGINAL CONFIGURATION!!!! PARTS ARE HARD TO FIND AND YOU CAN GET UPSIDE DOWN IN THESE RIFLES FAST!!!!!
I am fortunate to have a complete Mauser from the battlefields of Africa that was never sportized. Being such a cool rifle, I got a Mitchell's Mauser surplus that I left orginal but added a scope to hunt with. I also want to add a German camp pattern finish to it as is and maybe figure out how to attach a can with out changing much. Another bonus for me is that it is a fun caliber for reloading.
I took a sporterised dou ,K98k and got an original stock and turned it back to original configuration. It had the original front site so it was easy and looks great.
I love how your gun turned out. I have an old Mauser with the winter trigger guard myself. For some reason, when it was imported, it came with the crest ground off, although it is obviously a post war gun as well. Otherwise, it is in the original configuration. It shoots great for having such crude sights, and is a neat gun. Mine does not have the take down disks in the stock, but rather the hole in the cupped buttplate that was done as a cost saving measure. I figure that my gun was put together with leftover parts after the war, as a lot of the parts are stampings that were made as cost savings when Germany was being squeezed towards the end of the war. My gun still has some waffenamt stampings as well as some Czech lion markings, so it is a real amalgamation of parts. Thanks for showing.
I believe the crests were ground off when they sold them to the commercial market back in the day. Its like a property mark. The USMC M45A1 1911s that got sold off to the commercial market has a big X running through the USMC logo.
It’s not done anymore, sporterizing was done in the 50s and 60s when there were thousands upon thousands of them as surplus for a very cheap price, it wasn’t unreasonable then, it would be like taking a military m4 and making it “single shot” for hunting purposes
I do not believe that was the location of the takedown washer in the shorter(inlaid) stock, sir. I would like to believe it was the location of the sling slot instead. Good job and respectfully yours.
My grandad bought my dad and uncle a lee enfield each in the late 50s. My dad said they just had wood barrels full of them. They were covered in Cosmoline and sealed in these barrels. The store would pop one open and sell them til empty then pop another open. They had theirs sporterized at the time and now my dad would like the original so I assume you can get all the corresponding parts for a .303.
I have done this with a 1903, 1903A3, and a Lee Enfield No4 MK1. Im also in the process of restoring an 1898 Krag as well. But I prefer to put them back into original stocks and not after market ones.
1. Where did you get a krag? 2. I’d prefer that but there are aftermarket ones that are pretty much 1:1 reproductions and given that old spare stocks are drying up I wouldn’t mind relying on those
@@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK Local gun store in town. Unfortunately, I will never be able to save the Krag. Somewhere along the line the barrel and receiver were soldered together, breaking that would turn an excellent shooter into a wall hanger.
Great job! It would be nice to see new stocks like this appearing for the Swiss K31 as originals tend to suffer from water damage where they were piled up in the snow butt-down.
I've been doing this with an old 1943 Long Branch Lee Enfield No.4 Mk1*, and I just thank God the bastards who sporterized it didn't chop down the barrel or scallop the receiver. It's been a huge pain in the ass finding a vintage forearm, and that's what's preventing me from complete restoration. I really don't want to shell out the money for a replica forearm (VERY expensive), but it's looking like that might end up being my only choice aside from buying another Enfield and cannibalizing it for parts. I bought my Enfield for $200 and it's shooting 1 minute groups at 100 yards with my custom handloads, so I've been trying to keep the restoration on the cheap. I've spent about $100 restoring the sights (were totally removed by last owner), and about another $100 on the furniture and other bits and bobs. So about $400 in, so you can see why I'm not looking to spent $300 on a replica hand-crafted forearm. Still hoping to find a vintage one for $40-$120.
I've done the same on a couple M1917s. The repop stocks are considerably lesser quality, though there's an American firm doing semi-inletted ones of solid walnut that should be nice if you've got the tools. Tracking down some of these parts is an absolute headache though
I did this with my mauser I found a sporterized mauser, ended up being a 1940 code 147 Mauser 98 meaning it was made by J.P sauer, anyways after finding a stock online I was into this mauser for $450, great deal in 2020
i did the same thing with my mauser project but also had to do modifications to the stock. i too went with the flat butt plate, if i had gotten the laminated stock i would have needed to install a cupped butt plate. the flat butt plate would have been a quick install but the plate was not as wide as the stock, so i carfully had to reshape the stock using several different hand tools (a rasp, a couple of files and a lot of sand paper). as for the bluing, i couldnt get the the bluing chemical so i had some old cooking oil. i heated all the white metal parts to a certain temp (cant remember what the temperature was) and quenched the metal in the cooking oil. i repeated the process multiple times till i came to the desired result. it was a great project, i deeply regret having sold it.
I pride myself on saving pawn shop find sporters and rescuing them from Bubba and his hacksaw. Kind of a personal crusade. I totally restore sporters if they have no permanent unreversible changes. So far, I have restored a Brazilian 08/34 Mauser chambered for 30-06 (Brazil made these for expeditionary forces to use American ammo), a 1916 SMLE Mk III* and a 1916 made Eddystone (ERA) Pattern 14 rifle. Edit March 4th 2022: Add a 1939 French MAS 36 to that list. Those milled parts are REALLY hard to find :D
@@ericschulze5641 Not FN. Czech or German. Brazil took some of the 08/34 carbines they had and made them into 30-06 rifles by reaming the chamber and bore. I say it counts.
@@seanomeirs8362 Modern guns are not chambered correctly for the Bob and that is part of the reason it is 'out of favor'. They use a short action. The Bob should be chambered so that you can seat the heavier rounds (120 grain) out to 3inch COAL and get enough powder behind it. It shines (IMO) as a great varmint to deer round.
It’s not done anymore, sporterizing was done in the 50s and 60s when there were thousands upon thousands of them as surplus for a very cheap price, it wasn’t unreasonable then, it would be like taking a military m4 and making it “single shot” for hunting purposes
I have my father’s bringback k98 its all matching 1940 / 147 , we had a hardware store in eastern Kentucky that sold guns and just about anything I remember going there with my father just to look at all the guns , surplus rifles were in a wooden barrels marked peerless , i think log chains came in them , the Mauser rifles were $10.00 to $ 20.00 , M-1 grands were from $20.00 to $ 50.00 , this was probably somewhere around 1962 or so ,
A gun is only original once. A Sporterized rifle is no longer original but has a new history. In many cases, a would be hunter worked on this rifle for many hours in the evening or on days off. The result is a hunting rifle that is a family heirloom. Each one has been customized and are works of art in their own right. If you have an ordinary original that is great, if you are lucky enough to have a one of a kind hand worked spoterized, love it for what it is!
By that logic remilitarizing a sporterized rifle is adding on even more history to it. If you’re fine with people having sporterizing their rifles you should be fine with people remilitarizing them too.
@@michaelalbert8474 where the hell can you buy a reproduction K98k Mauser or a No.4 Lee Enfield? Simple, you can’t, because no one makes large scale reproductions of them.
If you read the old Precision Shooter magazine you'd see articles on American Springfield '03 conversions, into target or hunting rifles, by various gunsmiths, so the age of the collectible conversion is already upon us. Those gunsmiths were very, very good. I believe it will be the named gunsmith conversions first, followed by the "American Folk Art" [the expensive name for "home made"] conversions.
I hope so, I have a couple, one being of the 200k that Germany could keep from WW1, converted by mauser to be a sporter, word is that was the process to keep them in circulation as hunting not rifles of war circa 1938 G98 AZ.
They already are. They are usually more affordable than an original plus you have more options. An original should be kept original but a sporter can be hunted with as is, restored to original or the sportering can be changed or upgraded. The "Bubba" sporter is the poor mans custom rifle.
Before the 1968 GC Act these Mausers where coming into the states at US$26,95. They were advertises as BRNO and made for the Russian front. They were $3 cheaper than a stock standard Kar-98K
It's a shame, at my local gun shop is a K98 that's a pre-war gun (1938) that is all numbers matching but someone added a receiver sight to it, removed the rear sight and sporterized the stock. Had they left the gun alone and not added the receiver sight, the gun could be brought back fairly easily. I would own the gun as a nice shooter except for the fact they want too much money for it.
For a 1945-1947 made CZ K98 its the wrong buttplate. Most likely they might not have a disassembly disk. In this case, the disassembly disk is too deep in the stock - strange, possily a stock with excessive measures. IÄd need to check it out, but around 1945 there hardly were milled H-styple upper rings. I am currently reading a book about late war produktions of K98ks.......but I am not through yet. But it looks better than before!
that's not where the takedown disc was. That's where the sling slot was. The takedown disc would have been center back and closer toward the butt. This stock never had the disc looks like. And get that thing a front sight hood. I can see it's cut for it.
preach it. That was a late war stock that had the take down device as part of the cupped buttplate, which would be pretty common on a latewar lam stock...
@@herrcobblermachen Yep and look at the stamped trigger guard on it as well. LOL looks like the stamped one's you'd see on 03A3's! As the narrator said post war, but come on he should know his mausers!
Can that work on modern commercial Mausers as in the ones that are sold by Mauser today? Can it work for certain other rifles made that are not Mausers but have similar actions?
I have an 1891 Argentine Mauser in 7.65x53 that's been sporterized with the barrel cut and crowned down to 24 inches from it's normal 30. I am not sure if its even worth it to try to re-militarize it since the barrel has been chopped. I know a lot of guys had 308 win. barrels put into them when the sporterized them. I was able to get an RCBS brass conversion die for it to make brass from 30-06 or 270 brass. And now PPU makes ammo for it. But the old 1891 actions only have two bolt lugs and are known to be weak, so you have to load conservatively. 150gr. HP or 177gr. SP at 2600 is max. The 1898 and 1909 actions are much stronger with the three lug configuration. It was my grandfathers rifle, but he didn't sporterize it. We think he picked it up at a yard sale to keep the coyotes out of his garden.
Actually, it depends on the model of K98, the prewar and wartime models had it just behind where the splices was, while the Kreigsmodell had it in the buttplate
Thank you for the response! Then tig is the way for me to go. When the metal is all polished up I will have it rust blued. I will have a correct refinished shooter!
On mine (I had my action cerakoted later) I took set screws that were too long by about .075’ and installed them with red loctite then filed and sanded them down to smooth. As said i cerakoted my action so I wasn’t too worried about the poor quality of the finish of the rifle I got.
When I sporterized my G98 I kept all the parts so that if I wanted to I could put it back to I mean close to original... Cut off bent and rewelded the bolt, timly trigger, drilled and taped for Burruis scope base, archangel stock, Leupold VX II 4-12x50mm next I want to buy the Gentry 3 position safety. I'm still thinking about re-barrling for something more available (30-06) but I'm open to suggestions on a caliber if anyone has gone that far with good results. I hunt Whitetail deer, Mule deer, and Elk. I really love hunting with this relic and out shooting my buddy's at the range with all their new toys. It groups really well out to 500 yards shooting Nosler 180gr E-tip ammo, this is the ammo that keeps me from re-barrling because of how good it performs on the range and how amazing of a job it does on the animals I have harvested using it.
Man that gun will never be put back to original condition. Just sell the parts you don’t have on it anymore on eBay so that way someone who actually respects the history of the rifle can make use of them.
I would love to see a video on how to reduce the trigger pull on a .308 Mauser. my trigger pull is too high for me. can you make a video about that issue?
Hey bud i stopped the video at time stamp 5:22 bvecause i wanted to comment i did the same thing to my Mauser. Although the Mauser im workinfth is a CZ/VZ24 captured from a German soulder by my Grandfather. It was produced and issued in 1926 ,most likely tto the Romanian Army but later sportorized. So im guessing the rifle i have was used by Partixans or maybe Conscripts or was sold by the Czechs to another country in Europe? On the side of the reciever the only markings are "VZ24" and it has a bit of BRNO and a bit more on the top of the reciever. On the side with the serial number ir starts off with an "E" with a small lions head next to it and then "26" the serial number it self is 6336 K1 and is all matching numbers. Although i still have the old stock with the same numbers its in a box with the new/old stock now. It was actually built also in 1926. My best guess is it may have been used by the soulder in what ever country had it ,and when he left the army he took it home and sportorized it. Later it was confiscated by the Nazi's or used by someine fighting the occupation? In any case it ended up back in a Nazi soulders hands and my grandfather captured it. Since the VZ24s before the war were sold to so many different countries, and outside of europe they were chambered in other calibers. In the middle east and parts of Asia and North Africa some were chambered in 7.65X53mm and 7X57mm with those in europe and some sent to South America and Spain were 7.92X57. Some were even in another caliber,which i have not been able ot find yet? Since my Gramps fought from North Africa threw Italy and into Germany this rifle could be one of several calibers?My issue it that they wernt stamped with the calibers on the barrels back then so I tried to put a 7.9 Metah in it but it was tight and the Metah is basically 8mm and a 7mm projectile falls right threw it.....hehe so i dont know for sure if the Metah is just a bit fatter round then the 8mm Mauser which i hope it is! hehe or is it one of the other calibers? I have had issues ina blue state finding a gun shop with a bore guage that can tell me what caliber it actually is? Looking at the prices of guages online i wont be getting oen any time soon? :>/ So i have owned this rifle for some time and could have fired it when it was still sportorized but choose not too. Now thats its back in its Military configuration with a stock made in the same year as the rifle , which makes it as close to what it actually was ,when it came out of the factory and i'm going nuts trying to find a way to chamber a round and shoot it! LOL But safety 1st and i need help or a suggestion so i can get this rifle checked to find out its caliber/chamber? Why didnt they bother to mark the barrels like they do now for caliber ? It just sux for me right now! Once i get this to the range with some rounds ,im going to be in heaven! lol
Hey Roy, thank you for the video, Roy any idea where I can source out parts for my danzid 1916 gwe 98. I need the barrel band, front band and belt. Thank you!
Great information in this video. This is exactly what I want to do. I bought an Ankara Turkish Mauser with a date of 1942 on it and someon fileted it to pieces. I paid $220 for the gun and two, 20 round boxes of Hornady 196 gr. I'm not even sure what it is... an M38 or an 98K? I have no clue and am not sure how to find out. I'd like to get a full surplus stock because as I said this one has been hacked to pieces. The top of the stock is gone, no rings and the bottom has been shortened by at least 6" - 7". Any idea where I could get parts and info on this piece? Thanks! Steve D. U S. Navy, Retired Texas
I have that same rifle that was a sporter.I have remiliterized but woulad love to have a stock set up like what you did on yours.Any feeds on gettinng that set up??tanx.WSG
Lmao in 2019 I asked whether this would be possible/practical on Reddit and I was basically laughed at. Thankfully 98k's (as well as the rest of the market) has seemed to gone back down so I can reasonably purchase one without feeling like I am burning $100 bills.
I don't really get it, i mean even back then where tons of them where on the marked it does not make any sense, i mean the rifle is good as it is and if anyone want to hunt with it they can just drill holes in the gun to fit a scope, i mean it is changing the gun to but not really. Why should i put money into rebuildung a gun wich i can use as it is without having any disadvanteges. Why do i need to rebuild my rifle to look like any other hunting rifle, what is the point of that? You don't need to have another stock, or shorten the barrell wich is not as long or whatever, what is the point of sporterizing a Mauser?
This is also known as "De-Bubaizing" a rifle. My Dilemma is how to get the stock disks in without a press??? Can they be glued in with an epoxy? I've got two old K98s with crap-ola stocks I'd like to get new stocks for, but I'm stuck on how to do the stock disks.
I just recently purchased a sporterized mauser. Has a 1944 date, and an eagle with swastika stamped on the barrel as well. I would love to do this to mine. I just don't know how coste effective it would be vs getting an original
How would you go about reinstalling the military sights? I have a Wehrmacht Mauser that has had diopter sights put on it and I’d like to have it put back to original
Simply replace the nose cap on it the bayonet lug is milled onto it and is held onto the stock with a pin. The nose cap is under the foreward barrel band.
very few history buffs know this...but WW2 weapons, including the atomic bombs used, could not kill deer post war. People had to take them home, modify them in order to win the war against deer. This left the original ww2 weaponry changed forever. Any weapon still in its original state can be seen un museums under the "times where deer were invincible" section.
Can you elaborate on why they couldn't kill deer?
@@rjk37 Can you elaborate where your sense of humor disappeared to?
@@hokieduck straight moron that's me
It's also why Boeing introduced the B-50 in 1947, the B-29 proved ineffective at neutralizing deer herds.
This is awesome 👌 I agree 👍 I think this went past to many 🤣
Got a sporterized 1903a3 and brought it back to its old glory. Thankfully the previous owner replaced the rear sight with a mount and didn't drill holes into the receiver. All that needed replacing was the wood, bands and a new front and rear sight. Totally worth it.
I'd rather go hunting with a non-sporterized surplus rifle.
Done it before. It's great.
@@innawoodsman go back to /k/
I don't why anyone would destroy a peace of history.
@@Texasmilitarydepartmentvid9654 there were literally thousands floating around for extremely low prices why wouldn’t they.
@@IncredulousIndividual Still history
Fudds and Bubbas worldwide cried out in pain at the publishing of this video - sensing a disturbance in the force. "What!?", they cried, "M-must rechamber to an obscure wildcat!....Must unnecessarily refinish!....Must d-drill and TAAAAAPPPPP!!!". But, fortunately for milsurps everywhere, one man stood up and simply said "No."
Hahahahahaha
Sporterizing Bubbas deserve the rope.
LOL
Lol
What so another rifle can sit in a safe and never get used for what it was meant to be used for. That's like getting your wife a boob job and never touching them.if the rifle hasn't had the barrel cut or the receiver scrubbed off of all the original marks. Then you return to original condition. I have a 1927 03 that was done in the sixties with a pachmyr stock then before I got it the gentleman put a Krieger barrel on it. That's been my go to rifle for hunting. I gave that to my son because he shot his first deer with it .10 years ago I found a GEW 98 1916 in a gun shop in Billings Montana that has a beautiful wood stock on rebarreled and chamber in 264WM . I also have a 1939 Orbendorf K98 that had been tapped. I replaced the stock and mounted a early 1950s weaver on it and I use it during elk and bear season. my latest is a 6/42 Remington 03 that the rear sight had been removed and a redfield peep had been mounted on the receiver. Great for target shooting,no good for hunting cannot see the front sight in the timber here in western Montana. It had some holes in the upper receiver for some sort of scope mounts but nothing I could match up . The gunsmith that put the lilja barrel on my M70 took it tried to match it up with some of bases that his dad had in the back of the shop and ended up with weaver base on it. I sent Vintage gun scopes on of my weaver steel tubes and they put new glass and purged it . I haven't made meat with that yet but I will. That's also the one in the butt stock there was the Bill of sale from DCM camp perry 1968
You deserve a sainthood for this.
I fell off the mauser cliff at 18
When i started “big game” hunting in the southern USA with a 1895 Chilean 7x57. I killed so many deer with that old “army” gun it was probably illegal (😁) But now in the midlife crisis years I’m still building sporterized Mauser hunting rifles in all the Ackley calibers I can find and if I had it all to do over again I can honestly say
I would quadruple my collection
It’s been one of the best hobbies I’ve ever taken up
Good looking Cz and great job on the oxblue
I remember when you could by a surplus mauser for 99¢
When I was 18 (2010) they were $199 for a hand pick out of a crate.
😮yes please
Wait what, that's awesome
By the time I came of age a non matching worn out German mausers were going for $300 and parts matching ones went from $600-$1000. It makes me want to slap people who had the opportunity to pick them up for pocket change.
When I was 19 (2003) there would be pages of just milsurp Mausers in Shotgun News. Tons for like $95. Crazy.
I bought a Minnelli stock and was super impressed with it, fit like a glove only issue is the bolt take down disc went in too deep, two washers and it’s fixed. It is now on my 1933 standard modell
GOOD WORK!!!!! IV'E RESTORED SEVERAL OLD SPORTERIZED RIFLES BACK TO ORIGINAL CONFIGURATION!!!! PARTS ARE HARD TO FIND AND YOU CAN GET UPSIDE DOWN IN THESE RIFLES FAST!!!!!
BRO STOP SCREAMING
I am fortunate to have a complete Mauser from the battlefields of Africa that was never sportized. Being such a cool rifle, I got a Mitchell's Mauser surplus that I left orginal but added a scope to hunt with. I also want to add a German camp pattern finish to it as is and maybe figure out how to attach a can with out changing much. Another bonus for me is that it is a fun caliber for reloading.
I took a sporterised dou ,K98k and got an original stock and turned it back to original configuration. It had the original front site so it was easy and looks great.
dou,1944 Mauser.
I love how your gun turned out. I have an old Mauser with the winter trigger guard myself. For some reason, when it was imported, it came with the crest ground off, although it is obviously a post war gun as well. Otherwise, it is in the original configuration. It shoots great for having such crude sights, and is a neat gun. Mine does not have the take down disks in the stock, but rather the hole in the cupped buttplate that was done as a cost saving measure. I figure that my gun was put together with leftover parts after the war, as a lot of the parts are stampings that were made as cost savings when Germany was being squeezed towards the end of the war. My gun still has some waffenamt stampings as well as some Czech lion markings, so it is a real amalgamation of parts. Thanks for showing.
😎🔥
I believe the crests were ground off when they sold them to the commercial market back in the day. Its like a property mark. The USMC M45A1 1911s that got sold off to the commercial market has a big X running through the USMC logo.
I cringe when I see a "sporterized" Mauser-type rifle.
There's a special place in Hell for fools who desecrate beautiful old weapons.
I just saw a 39 German that was turned into a glorified 700
It’s not done anymore, sporterizing was done in the 50s and 60s when there were thousands upon thousands of them as surplus for a very cheap price, it wasn’t unreasonable then, it would be like taking a military m4 and making it “single shot” for hunting purposes
Nonsense, if done well there's nothing wrong with it and they live on ,just wearing new clothes
@@ericschulze5641 Nonsense. It's stupid and they suck.
@@WynEvans obviously you've never seen a well done sporterized Mauser
Excellent video and a great resort action - thank you.
Thanks for watching!
I do not believe that was the location of the takedown washer in the shorter(inlaid) stock, sir. I would like to believe it was the location of the sling slot instead. Good job and respectfully yours.
can you guys do a video like this on the lee enfield? they're so common and such a good rifle, but they're almost all sporterized.
Thank you for the suggestion!
By 1942, most K98s stocks had the stamped cup butt-plate, and all post war new stocks made in Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia had cupped stocks.
M24/52C Yugos had vz24 flat buttplates. So did the 24/48. The M48 had K98 k style cupped buttplate.
My grandad bought my dad and uncle a lee enfield each in the late 50s. My dad said they just had wood barrels full of them. They were covered in Cosmoline and sealed in these barrels. The store would pop one open and sell them til empty then pop another open. They had theirs sporterized at the time and now my dad would like the original so I assume you can get all the corresponding parts for a .303.
I've heard stories of when Enfields were selling for $20-30. What a time that must have been.
Thank you for using the proper name Wehrmacht, and not using the “N” word. Awesome video.
Most of the high command of the Wehrmacht were Nazis, and they took part in many of the Nazi perpetrated war crimes.
A step in the right direction
I see the Retail store strikes again Roy! You underestimate your abilities, I think it was a very nice job!
"Best I can do is restore it". Thanks Brownell's Rick Harrison!
I have done this with a 1903, 1903A3, and a Lee Enfield No4 MK1. Im also in the process of restoring an 1898 Krag as well. But I prefer to put them back into original stocks and not after market ones.
1. Where did you get a krag? 2. I’d prefer that but there are aftermarket ones that are pretty much 1:1 reproductions and given that old spare stocks are drying up I wouldn’t mind relying on those
@@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK Local gun store in town. Unfortunately, I will never be able to save the Krag. Somewhere along the line the barrel and receiver were soldered together, breaking that would turn an excellent shooter into a wall hanger.
@@chris.3711 that’s a shame, at least it’s still a shooter, even tho I’d imagine .30-40 krag is hard to find
@@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK I lucked out and got another one, not sporterized this time, recently at a pawn shop. Amazing rifle.
@@chris.3711 if you don’t mind me asking how much did u pay for it?
Old is gold...
Great job! It would be nice to see new stocks like this appearing for the Swiss K31 as originals tend to suffer from water damage where they were piled up in the snow butt-down.
I've been doing this with an old 1943 Long Branch Lee Enfield No.4 Mk1*, and I just thank God the bastards who sporterized it didn't chop down the barrel or scallop the receiver. It's been a huge pain in the ass finding a vintage forearm, and that's what's preventing me from complete restoration. I really don't want to shell out the money for a replica forearm (VERY expensive), but it's looking like that might end up being my only choice aside from buying another Enfield and cannibalizing it for parts.
I bought my Enfield for $200 and it's shooting 1 minute groups at 100 yards with my custom handloads, so I've been trying to keep the restoration on the cheap. I've spent about $100 restoring the sights (were totally removed by last owner), and about another $100 on the furniture and other bits and bobs. So about $400 in, so you can see why I'm not looking to spent $300 on a replica hand-crafted forearm. Still hoping to find a vintage one for $40-$120.
I've done the same on a couple M1917s. The repop stocks are considerably lesser quality, though there's an American firm doing semi-inletted ones of solid walnut that should be nice if you've got the tools. Tracking down some of these parts is an absolute headache though
Some layers of Linseed oil are a massive improvement to repro stocks. But originals in American Black Walnut are always preferrable imo.
I did this with my mauser I found a sporterized mauser, ended up being a 1940 code 147 Mauser 98 meaning it was made by J.P sauer, anyways after finding a stock online I was into this mauser for $450, great deal in 2020
You also need the front sight cover as your front sight base has the groove for it. To be correct Chech. rifle
Look at some WWII pics, plenty of German troops didn't have their hoods mounted even on rifles with the provision
i did the same thing with my mauser project but also had to do modifications to the stock. i too went with the flat butt plate, if i had gotten the laminated stock i would have needed to install a cupped butt plate. the flat butt plate would have been a quick install but the plate was not as wide as the stock, so i carfully had to reshape the stock using several different hand tools (a rasp, a couple of files and a lot of sand paper). as for the bluing, i couldnt get the the bluing chemical so i had some old cooking oil. i heated all the white metal parts to a certain temp (cant remember what the temperature was) and quenched the metal in the cooking oil. i repeated the process multiple times till i came to the desired result. it was a great project, i deeply regret having sold it.
well done! thank you
Hell Yeah bring it back to it's original configuration.
I pride myself on saving pawn shop find sporters and rescuing them from Bubba and his hacksaw. Kind of a personal crusade. I totally restore sporters if they have no permanent unreversible changes. So far, I have restored a Brazilian 08/34 Mauser chambered for 30-06 (Brazil made these for expeditionary forces to use American ammo), a 1916 SMLE Mk III* and a 1916 made Eddystone (ERA) Pattern 14 rifle.
Edit March 4th 2022: Add a 1939 French MAS 36 to that list. Those milled parts are REALLY hard to find :D
Brazil made nothing, they're FN reworks purchased by Brazil
@@ericschulze5641 Not FN. Czech or German. Brazil took some of the 08/34 carbines they had and made them into 30-06 rifles by reaming the chamber and bore. I say it counts.
@@shockwave6213 hmm my chiean 30/06 says FN Belgium, I guess the Brazilian ones weren't
@@ericschulze5641 Yeah Chile contracted with FN. Brazil only contracted with DWM and CZ.
I have a Spanish Mauser that was arsenl converted to 7.62x51... had a broken screw and you folks had the needed replacement
Glad we could help out!
My Peruvian Mauser is an FN factory built rifle, chambered in 30-06.
I have a Brazilian on from FN in the original 7x57 intermediate action. Gonna rebarrel it into a 257 Bob.
@@hazcat640 I hadn't heard of. 257 bob, so I looked it up. It looks like a versatile cartridge. Thanks for the feedback.
@@seanomeirs8362 Modern guns are not chambered correctly for the Bob and that is part of the reason it is 'out of favor'. They use a short action. The Bob should be chambered so that you can seat the heavier rounds (120 grain) out to 3inch COAL and get enough powder behind it. It shines (IMO) as a great varmint to deer round.
@@hazcat640 120 grains, moving close to 3000 fps, is no joke.
Put on a sight hood it helps line up the target.
Needs front sight hood and a cleaning rod. Good looking rifle.
It reminds me of the motorcycle choppers that's how lots of beutiful America motorcycles were destroyed
Sporterizing surplus rifles should be considered a crime
It’s not done anymore, sporterizing was done in the 50s and 60s when there were thousands upon thousands of them as surplus for a very cheap price, it wasn’t unreasonable then, it would be like taking a military m4 and making it “single shot” for hunting purposes
Great job, Roy!
Great video, thanks.
All you need now is a front site hood
I have my father’s bringback k98 its all matching 1940 / 147 , we had a hardware store in eastern Kentucky that sold guns and just about anything I remember going there with my father just to look at all the guns , surplus rifles were in a wooden barrels marked peerless , i think log chains came in them , the Mauser rifles were $10.00 to $ 20.00 , M-1 grands were from $20.00 to $ 50.00 , this was probably somewhere around 1962 or so ,
A gun is only original once. A Sporterized rifle is no longer original but has a new history. In many cases, a would be hunter worked on this rifle for many hours in the evening or on days off. The result is a hunting rifle that is a family heirloom. Each one has been customized and are works of art in their own right. If you have an ordinary original that is great, if you are lucky enough to have a one of a kind hand worked spoterized, love it for what it is!
By that logic remilitarizing a sporterized rifle is adding on even more history to it.
If you’re fine with people having sporterizing their rifles you should be fine with people remilitarizing them too.
@@baneofbanes
Sure, it’s your property, do what you want. But it still isn’t an original rifle. May as well buy a reproduction to start with.
@@michaelalbert8474 where the hell can you buy a reproduction K98k Mauser or a No.4 Lee Enfield?
Simple, you can’t, because no one makes large scale reproductions of them.
@@baneofbanes
You just witnessed one being constructed.
@@michaelalbert8474 Are you just dumb? This isn’t a reproduction rifle, it’s reproduction stock and furniture for sporterized rifles.
Doing the lords work
German did not blue the butt plates! Actually... Winter trigger guards were introduced during WW2...
It's a shame Brownells has discontinued these.
Square wood plate is not where the take down disk was but likely the sling insertion opening...
It’s a shame you guys don’t have those stocks anymore
Thanks for the Minelli tip!
I'm only curious if someone would FINALLY make decent Winchester SXP furniture..
Looks like a fun project. Nice work, maybe I can do something like that!
We know you can!
@@brownells I'll sure give it a shot, once I find a good rifle to start with.
That came out pretty well.
M
Thank you!
Stocks are no longer available:( such a shame
At some point in the future, sporterized milsurp rifles will become collectible.
If you read the old Precision Shooter magazine you'd see articles on American Springfield '03 conversions, into target or hunting rifles, by various gunsmiths, so the age of the collectible conversion is already upon us. Those gunsmiths were very, very good. I believe it will be the named gunsmith conversions first, followed by the "American Folk Art" [the expensive name for "home made"] conversions.
I hope so, I have a couple, one being of the 200k that Germany could keep from WW1, converted by mauser to be a sporter, word is that was the process to keep them in circulation as hunting not rifles of war circa 1938 G98 AZ.
I've already tried finding a well made Sporter with the Schnabel front handguard. Finding well made sporterized ones are difficult
They are collectable.
By me, so that I can restore them.
They already are. They are usually more affordable than an original plus you have more options. An original should be kept original but a sporter can be hunted with as is, restored to original or the sportering can be changed or upgraded. The "Bubba" sporter is the poor mans custom rifle.
I acquired an Awesome WW2 Sporterized Mauser.
45-70 Govt, 4 ft long, 11.4 lbs.
Couldn't pass that up
Before the 1968 GC Act these Mausers where coming into the states at US$26,95. They were advertises as BRNO and made for the Russian front. They were $3 cheaper than a stock standard Kar-98K
It’s not the 1968 GC act that’s made Mausers expensive
It's a shame, at my local gun shop is a K98 that's a pre-war gun (1938) that is all numbers matching but someone added a receiver sight to it, removed the rear sight and sporterized the stock. Had they left the gun alone and not added the receiver sight, the gun could be brought back fairly easily. I would own the gun as a nice shooter except for the fact they want too much money for it.
That’s probably the worst part about sporterized rifles. Most people want way to much for them.
No one ever sells military profile stocks very long- here today gone in a couple months never to be restocked again. Not sure why
I want to remilierize the 1903 springfield, I hate seeing those sportized
For a 1945-1947 made CZ K98 its the wrong buttplate. Most likely they might not have a disassembly disk. In this case, the disassembly disk is too deep in the stock - strange, possily a stock with excessive measures. IÄd need to check it out, but around 1945 there hardly were milled H-styple upper rings. I am currently reading a book about late war produktions of K98ks.......but I am not through yet.
But it looks better than before!
Those arrows look like Springfields “Grip zone”...muzzle forward zone
Ha! That's funny.
Winter trigger guard too
I like this 👍
that's not where the takedown disc was. That's where the sling slot was. The takedown disc would have been center back and closer toward the butt. This stock never had the disc looks like.
And get that thing a front sight hood. I can see it's cut for it.
preach it. That was a late war stock that had the take down device as part of the cupped buttplate, which would be pretty common on a latewar lam stock...
@@herrcobblermachen Yep and look at the stamped trigger guard on it as well. LOL looks like the stamped one's you'd see on 03A3's! As the narrator said post war, but come on he should know his mausers!
Can that work on modern commercial Mausers as in the ones that are sold by Mauser today? Can it work for certain other rifles made that are not Mausers but have similar actions?
Lol commercial mauser nowadays cost over 10 grands
I wish to find a front site hood for my 1915 K-98.
I have a sporterized Zastava M48 I'm looking to remilitarize, i have a feeling this will be a headache lol
I have an 1891 Argentine Mauser in 7.65x53 that's been sporterized with the barrel cut and crowned down to 24 inches from it's normal 30. I am not sure if its even worth it to try to re-militarize it since the barrel has been chopped. I know a lot of guys had 308 win. barrels put into them when the sporterized them. I was able to get an RCBS brass conversion die for it to make brass from 30-06 or 270 brass. And now PPU makes ammo for it. But the old 1891 actions only have two bolt lugs and are known to be weak, so you have to load conservatively. 150gr. HP or 177gr. SP at 2600 is max. The 1898 and 1909 actions are much stronger with the three lug configuration. It was my grandfathers rifle, but he didn't sporterize it. We think he picked it up at a yard sale to keep the coyotes out of his garden.
Those wood patches in the stock cover the sling slot, that stock would've had a hole in the buttplate for bolt takedown.
Actually, it depends on the model of K98, the prewar and wartime models had it just behind where the splices was, while the Kreigsmodell had it in the buttplate
Thank you for the video. What is the best way to fill sigh mount holes on the receiver? They are threaded. I've heard of all kinds of ways to do it.
We often recommend permanent filling of holes in receivers by TIG welding them.
Thank you for the response! Then tig is the way for me to go. When the metal is all polished up I will have it rust blued. I will have a correct refinished shooter!
On mine (I had my action cerakoted later) I took set screws that were too long by about .075’ and installed them with red loctite then filed and sanded them down to smooth. As said i cerakoted my action so I wasn’t too worried about the poor quality of the finish of the rifle I got.
When I sporterized my G98 I kept all the parts so that if I wanted to I could put it back to I mean close to original... Cut off bent and rewelded the bolt, timly trigger, drilled and taped for Burruis scope base, archangel stock, Leupold VX II 4-12x50mm next I want to buy the Gentry 3 position safety. I'm still thinking about re-barrling for something more available (30-06) but I'm open to suggestions on a caliber if anyone has gone that far with good results. I hunt Whitetail deer, Mule deer, and Elk. I really love hunting with this relic and out shooting my buddy's at the range with all their new toys. It groups really well out to 500 yards shooting Nosler 180gr E-tip ammo, this is the ammo that keeps me from re-barrling because of how good it performs on the range and how amazing of a job it does on the animals I have harvested using it.
Man that gun will never be put back to original condition. Just sell the parts you don’t have on it anymore on eBay so that way someone who actually respects the history of the rifle can make use of them.
Any ideas about a 1903a3 that has a scope mount through the mag cut off?
Would need the stock, mag cut off and barrel bands?
I would love to see a video on how to reduce the trigger pull on a .308 Mauser. my trigger pull is too high for me. can you make a video about that issue?
Hey bud i stopped the video at time stamp 5:22 bvecause i wanted to comment i did the same thing to my Mauser. Although the Mauser im workinfth is a CZ/VZ24 captured from a German soulder by my Grandfather. It was produced and issued in 1926 ,most likely tto the Romanian Army but later sportorized. So im guessing the rifle i have was used by Partixans or maybe Conscripts or was sold by the Czechs to another country in Europe? On the side of the reciever the only markings are "VZ24" and it has a bit of BRNO and a bit more on the top of the reciever. On the side with the serial number ir starts off with an "E" with a small lions head next to it and then "26" the serial number it self is 6336 K1 and is all matching numbers. Although i still have the old stock with the same numbers its in a box with the new/old stock now. It was actually built also in 1926. My best guess is it may have been used by the soulder in what ever country had it ,and when he left the army he took it home and sportorized it. Later it was confiscated by the Nazi's or used by someine fighting the occupation? In any case it ended up back in a Nazi soulders hands and my grandfather captured it. Since the VZ24s before the war were sold to so many different countries, and outside of europe they were chambered in other calibers. In the middle east and parts of Asia and North Africa some were chambered in 7.65X53mm and 7X57mm with those in europe and some sent to South America and Spain were 7.92X57. Some were even in another caliber,which i have not been able ot find yet? Since my Gramps fought from North Africa threw Italy and into Germany this rifle could be one of several calibers?My issue it that they wernt stamped with the calibers on the barrels back then so I tried to put a 7.9 Metah in it but it was tight and the Metah is basically 8mm and a 7mm projectile falls right threw it.....hehe so i dont know for sure if the Metah is just a bit fatter round then the 8mm Mauser which i hope it is! hehe or is it one of the other calibers? I have had issues ina blue state finding a gun shop with a bore guage that can tell me what caliber it actually is? Looking at the prices of guages online i wont be getting oen any time soon? :>/
So i have owned this rifle for some time and could have fired it when it was still sportorized but choose not too. Now thats its back in its Military configuration with a stock made in the same year as the rifle , which makes it as close to what it actually was ,when it came out of the factory and i'm going nuts trying to find a way to chamber a round and shoot it! LOL But safety 1st and i need help or a suggestion so i can get this rifle checked to find out its caliber/chamber? Why didnt they bother to mark the barrels like they do now for caliber ? It just sux for me right now! Once i get this to the range with some rounds ,im going to be in heaven! lol
Hey Roy, thank
you for the video, Roy any idea where I can source out parts for my danzid 1916 gwe 98. I need the barrel band, front band and belt. Thank you!
Great information in this video. This is exactly what I want to do. I bought an Ankara Turkish Mauser with a date of 1942 on it and someon fileted it to pieces. I paid $220 for the gun and two, 20 round boxes of Hornady 196 gr. I'm not even sure what it is... an M38 or an 98K? I have no clue and am not sure how to find out.
I'd like to get a full surplus stock because as I said this one has been hacked to pieces. The top of the stock is gone, no rings and the bottom has been shortened by at least 6" - 7".
Any idea where I could get parts and info on this piece?
Thanks!
Steve D.
U S. Navy, Retired
Texas
I have a bottle of oxpho blue too, but mine kinda dried up
I have that same rifle that was a sporter.I have remiliterized but woulad love to have a stock set up like what you did on yours.Any feeds on gettinng that set up??tanx.WSG
Dude you forgot the recoil crossbolt in the old stock
I wish someone made laminated reprp stocks
Sporterizing these can be a felony
Sporterizing was done in the 50s and 60s when they had so many they didn’t know what to do with so it wasn’t unreasonable then
@@pennsylvanianrailfan I might sometimes stick with the plain ones
I'd love to do this to a CZ550 , .375 H&H !!!
Lmao in 2019 I asked whether this would be possible/practical on Reddit and I was basically laughed at.
Thankfully 98k's (as well as the rest of the market) has seemed to gone back down so I can reasonably purchase one without feeling like I am burning $100 bills.
So does Brownells still sell these stocks?
My issue was remilitarizing a MAS 36
I don't really get it, i mean even back then where tons of them where on the marked it does not make any sense, i mean the rifle is good as it is and if anyone want to hunt with it they can just drill holes in the gun to fit a scope, i mean it is changing the gun to but not really. Why should i put money into rebuildung a gun wich i can use as it is without having any disadvanteges. Why do i need to rebuild my rifle to look like any other hunting rifle, what is the point of that? You don't need to have another stock, or shorten the barrell wich is not as long or whatever, what is the point of sporterizing a Mauser?
Are these stocks still available?
What's the effective range of one with a shortened Barrel
Nice video but please kill the stock background music. Nobody likes it. Trust me, We Just appreciate hearing you talk.
This is also known as "De-Bubaizing" a rifle. My Dilemma is how to get the stock disks in without a press??? Can they be glued in with an epoxy? I've got two old K98s with crap-ola stocks I'd like to get new stocks for, but I'm stuck on how to do the stock disks.
a vice and a ball bearing
I got myself a sporterised mannlicher m95m and for years I am still looking for the military stock to re-militarise it >_
Ooooh nice!
I just recently purchased a sporterized mauser. Has a 1944 date, and an eagle with swastika stamped on the barrel as well. I would love to do this to mine. I just don't know how coste effective it would be vs getting an original
Do the right thing, save a Mauser.
Where can I get the remilitarized stock? I have a Yugoslav with a Brocken stock.
Give our gunsmiths a call at 800.741.0015 and they should be able to assist!
I want your sporter stalk. Let me know if you'd like to part with it. Thanks.
Are you reading my mind?
How would you go about reinstalling the military sights? I have a Wehrmacht Mauser that has had diopter sights put on it and I’d like to have it put back to original
It is possible your rifle had those sights put on officially for target use either before or after the war, quite possibly making it more valuable.
Practically impossible.
@@dothwalrus370 unlikely.
Can I put a bayonet lug on my Dou.45 k98? It doesn’t have one because it was made late war?
Simply replace the nose cap on it the bayonet lug is milled onto it and is held onto the stock with a pin. The nose cap is under the foreward barrel band.
DONT DO THAT IT WILL RUIN THE VALUE OF THE GUN!!!!
The buttplate isn't supposed to be blued
What's the purpose of the take down disk?
to take apart the bolt easier
@@jeremy67A
Thanks.
Sportorizing a military rifle is as bad as bobbing a deuce and a half. It is sacrilegious.