the absolute most most tragic death in marvel comics history? a little girl. in the short story "Leah," a comic by Peter David and Colleen Doran, no powers, no secret identity, she was just a little girl who idolized spiderman.damn it, now i'm crying. her name was Leah, a little homeless girl who lived in a cardboard box in a dirty ally. she is in a coma, dying, her organs failing when spiderman finds her, it's to late all the doctors can do is make her comfortable and watch her die but we see in her fever dream her fondest wish was to be rescued by her hero spiderman www.dorkly.com/post/77616/uplifting-superhero-comics/page:2
anyone not crying yet? how about if i tell you leah was a real person who really died, that it was peter david not parker who kissed her on her cheek as she lay on her death bed? www.peterdavid.net/archives/005099.html cue water works
in the comics of spiderman there is the original story that inspired this one: "the kid who collects spider-man"... in the end of the story we find out he has cancer and only have a couple of weeks left...heartbreaking.
Swift Swalow and you know what is the most heartbreaking about these stories? they could be prevented! spiderman knows the smartest people in the world, as well as magic users, powerful healers and psionics, heck even a fet cosmic power beings. why not put them in stasis and let reed richards, hank mccoy and DOCTOR strange cure them? for thatmatter, why hasn"t mr. fantastic cured cancer?
megazwatcher for what i heard the magic users are reluctant to helping with "mundane diseases" they don't want to alter the physical world or anyone in it unless it's 100% necessary, it's not so easy for them to decide who lives and who dies, so they'd rather not have a part on this subjects in any way. the cosmic beings aren't available 24/7 and spidey in that time had no way to contact with most of the other heroes in the hero community, he was merely starting his superhero career. reed Richards is a scientist, not a medic, he studied biology, but he is not sure even today if he could cure a desease. Mccoy is similar to this he is a biologist, not a medic, plus i don't know if spidey knew him in that point.... but yeah, i bet spidey could've found SOMEONE to help.
Two words. Silver Surfer. He dies of a cancer-like disease which eats away at his protective skin. He uses the Power Cosmic to send a burst of energy, which triggers apathy in all people on Earth, as a final gift, as the guy was just as friggin noble on his deathbed as he was a living mofo. Dr. Doom, Uatu, the Waatcher, Mr. Fantastic, Dr. Strange, almost all of the 'Marvel Geniuses", good or evil, try, but fail to save him, and that includes a heartfelt Galactus. He eventually travels back to his home planet of Zen-La, and dies after seeing his beloved Shalla-Bal one last time.... Or did Marvel bring HIM back to life and I missed the memo?
I personally think Spiderman's sickness and death in "The Other" was the most tragic thing I've ever seen in comics. Rarely is a superhero death so built up, and he didn't die in honor exactly, he was fighting a much much stronger guy who ate his eye, beat him until he was unrecognizable and left him in a semi-commatose state. You can argue that he found some secret spider powers and defeated him in the end, but he still died in the arms of Mary Jane all bandadged up. I don't think I've ever actually cried over drawn pictures of fictional characters, but that was the one exception.
That's not what made his death memorable. He was shot, unmasked, fighting the Sinister Six in his home neighborhood. Vulture, Kraven, Electro, Sandman...uh...Green Goblin...who else was there? Wasn't Doc Ock, he was very dead...which was sad as he had finally decided to stop being a criminal and be a scientist once again.
+TheBlues32 it was action packed, heroic, and pretty awesome but it doesn't feel real. thinking the avengers will come back just in time and he will eventually live. maybe death of spiderman is just about the his superhero identity and not about peter. aunt may and captain america's exchange made it real. it changed his death from an action sequence to a tribute with most of his villains showing up.
Spider-Man should have been #1. Spider-Man is one of, if not, the greatest characters of Marvel. Growing up I loved Spider-Man, especially Tobey Maguire, and it was a very heartbreaking moment to me.
oh come on, we all know the Marvel death every fan fears and dreads the most will be Stan Lee. i will stop reading comic books after that and im 52. it just wouldnt be the same
they are legends because they did what they loved and conveyed thier enthusiasm to the fans. make mine marvel, F.O.O.M., stan lees soapbox all hoaky and amateurish compared to today its true but lately...grrr Thor should never be a girl, Iron Heart, Prof X killed by one of his first students; the disappointments go on and on and Marvel feels more like a corporation than a fan club. if i had talent i would make comic books fun again. just one last EXCELSIOR!! for old times sake, then i guess its finally time to grow up have a good day
Whatculture.... You know your wrestling & you know your games. But you don't know comics. Your attempts to pretend you do are kind of cringeworthy to us real fans. 1. Victoria Hand is a copy of Amanda Waller, she is not original but she is still a good character. 2. The saying is there are THREE people that stay dead in comics. Not two. Uncle Ben, Bucky Barnes & Gwen Stacey. All three have in recent years, returned from the grave. 3. Yes, Uncle Ben DID come back. 4. It's not a mystery, Spidey killed Gwen by accident while trying to save her. 5. The most tragic death is The Fantastic Four, at the hands of FOX & that awful movie. You're welcome If you want to feature comics... hire me
Bullshit. This is the same list that nearly any Comic Channel would post. Maybe the order would be different, but it would be all of these characters. Anyone that says any different is a liar and a cheat!
*cunty comment alert 2:* 1. Is an opinion, not fact 2. No, he didn't 3. See 2 4. It's better to say that _currently_ the truth is that Spider-man's web snapped her neck, but it's changed through the years. Hell, even Stan Lee doesn't agree that that's how she died 5. *sigh* Feel free to name comics where any of these points are proven false
It's tragic because of the road she went down and in the end, she never managed to get clean and make amends like everyone hoped she would. And despite how her life ended up and whatever she had done, Matt Murdock still loved her.
Nicky Morris Given "tragic" implies "unhappy ending" and most DD fans probably cheered when she got what was coming to her, yes - by definition, not tragic at all.
Nicky Morris The definition of "tragedy/tragic" begs to differ. What happened to Karen Paige is justice and if it happened to a man, odds are you'd be "lol, he deserved it" I wager. There's nothing tragic about a person who committed wrongdoing getting their comeuppance. Tragedy implies innocence.
Yea, as you brought up yourself comic deaths are never tragic because they never stay dead. you want to do an impressive list? find the top ten most permanent comic book deaths. if you can even find ten permanent deaths in comic books, then i'll be impressed. just so we're clear, these would have to deaths of major characters, not all the nameless pizza delivery guys that deadpool has killed over the years.
jean grey (Died December 2003) thunderbird ben parker captain Mar-vell bill foster (black goliath) jack of hearts the Ancient one Avalanche (brotherhood of evil) the hellions Roger Bochs (alpha flight) Fabian Cortez Genesis (Tyler Dayspring) Ant-man 1 Howard Stark the Mandarin Mastermind (died 1993!) Nova (Richard Rider) Richard and Mary Parker (died 1968!!!)
megazwatcher They literally all came back with the exception of thunderbird (and even he came back once), and ben parker (and the like) is not who I would call a major character....see, this is a very difficult topic.
Is the criteria behind your request that they are dead now, or that they only died one time in their entire publication history? It would definitely be hard, if not impossible, to satisfy the second one, but you ask for "permanent" deaths in your original post. There is no way to know which deaths are permanent, because any death can be overturned in comics (they just get worse and worse with every retcon), but the best we can do is assume current deaths are permanent until shown otherwise. In that case, there are a lot of characters that are dead right now and megazwatcher gave a good list.
clericofchaos1 actually not so much sure there is A jean grey however, this is i different jean grey, one who was never the phoenix, never mafrried cyclops and has not lived the decades of life as an x-man that the REAL jean grey did captain mar-vell also not back, they had a mind wiped skrull who thought he was mar-vell the current mastermind is the dead one's daughter nova has been replaced with a different kid in the suit etc, etc. etc even wolverine, now returned as "old man" wolverine is not the same person these comic book deaths have been and will continue to be real for the forseeable future
+Tungus Grump ... the first one... in 1976? When pretty much the majority commenting on here wasn't even alive (let alone had read an X-men comic), only for her to be resurrected like.. immediately? Who was upset over that? Or the 2nd time in 1980... (see above for age range demographics)? By the time she died twice in 1991, it had already become a recurring theme that nobody thought she wouldn't be coming back already as she's now expected to die (which she did and died again in 1995... twice in 2003... twice in 2005... I mean come on)
John West IV Yeah in 1980 fans threw a fit, as did a couple of people who actually worked on the book. And yes, I was quite alive and reading comics in 1980. And while it was only a few yrs until Byrne came up with a workable retcon to bring her back in Fantastic Four, it felt like an eternity. She may not have been any great shakes in 1976, but by 1980 she was second only to Wolverine in popularity. Just because there was no internet in 1980 doesn't mean people weren't pissed. The world does not revolve around Millennials. Thank god.
I would argue that Ultimate Spiderman's death is pretty damn tragic, given that it's a last stand before he finally comes to terms with the fact that he successfully saved Aunt May, going someway to forgive himself for not being able to save Uncle Ben. Seriously, the motion comic is on RUclips, it is heart breaking stuff, and I don't even read Spiderman.
Victoria Hand was never ever head of SHIELD... she was FIRED from SHIELD when she was an accountant who got sacked for sending Nick Fury letters on what she (in her experience as an accountant) thought he was doing wrong. Then she was deputy head of HAMMER the evil organisation Norman Osborn built to replace SHIELD after he was put in charge... Basicly to be his go to lacky/yes lady/admin... The when SHIELD came back with Captain America in charge she was made admin person for the New Avengers
The part about Spider-Man and Gwen Stacey; It was confirmed by Marvel Comics on the back of the comic that Gwen died as a result of Spider-Man trying to save her. Although Spider-man never knew for certain.
spiderman's death at the end of ultimate spiderman after getting shot saving captain americas life and then single handedly beating the sinister 6 with a bullet wound and beating norman ozborn to death DEFINITELY takes the cake for most tragic and most epic death for me.
Not really, Osborn killed her. Yes Peter has a role in it, in his attempt to save her, but unless she was going to land in a giant vat of especially fluffy marshmallows, she was dead no matter what Parker did.
NO! Damn!!! You totally SHOULD HAVE SAID that it's absolutely devastating and it adds a lot of tragedy to Gwen's death hath she had just had a romance with his killer, Norman Osborn, she had just mothered two of his sons, and that she and Peter never actually had sex, while she and the Goblin did.
I love Avengers Vs. X-men, especially the part where Spidey gives Hope some surprisingly sage advice, and then makes good on it in that volcano, after telling Iron Fist to tell Hope that he, "Meant what [he] said". That' such an emotional moment, don't you think?
Sentry should be up here. He wasn't a major player for very long, but his solo series was really good, and what he goes through during Dark Reign and Siege is just heart-breaking. I kinda wish they would bring Sentry back, considering he's maybe the most powerful hero since Superman, and much more interesting.
It's recognised, in canon that Spidey killed Gwen (though had he done nothing, she'd still die). For starters when Green Goblin did literally the exact ame thing to Mary Jane, Spidey saved her by using multiple webs, this time spreading the impact of suddenly stopping out through her whole body. Also in Civil War Tony uses Spiderman breaking Gwen's neck as an example of why superheroes to register and be trained. Had Spiderman more experience/training he could have saved Gwen. That's one of the key things about Spiderman, he's young and imperfect.
Even though I'm English I love you voice. Most tragic for me was the death of Fantomex's "mother". He was forever introducing her to people but one time when he visits her an army of superhero-deathloks come and kill her. At the end him and Cluster take Psylocke to meet his Mother and Psylocke says "is this real?" and he says "maybe. Is anything? What do I know?" and it's super sad for me bc I think he's misdirecting himself to think his mother is there living alone in the French alps and is always happy to see him.
For what it's worth, there was a "What If?" comic where Peter Parker stopped the robber that had killed Uncle Ben in the main timeline. Ben survives and Peter never learns the power/responsibility bit and he ends up using his power to become a professional wrestler, action hero, and celebrity. J.J. Jameson's son dies in a space shuttle crash and blames Spider-Man because he had the power to help but did nothing.
Some guy recently resurrected Gwen Stacy for the 2016 series of the Amazing Spider-Man, Jean Grey from the past is now in the present, and why isn't Wolverine on this list? I mean, sure they brought Old Man Logan from an alternate dystopian future, but that isn't THE Wolverine, that title passed on to X-23.
You forgot about Captain Marvel's son, Genis-Vell. Just getting over his insanity and using his cosmic awareness correctly for the first time in order to live up to his father's name, he came to the Thunderbolts to redeem his name. During the same issue, he's injured (thought dead) and to try and save him, Zemo fuses his nega-bands into him. They have a weird effect and he's slowly destroying the universe - so they split his body apart and left him in the Darkforce Dimension. A statue for him was made next to his father's.
Totally missed Captain Jean DeWolff, a supporting character in Spider-Man, who occasionally had the possibility, never realized, of becoming a romantic interest, and who was brutally slain by the first Sin-Eater, who was also one of her fellow officers. It was one of those occasions that had Spidey flashing back to Gwen's death, and he quite nearly killed Sin-Eater in the middle of the street with his bare hands. Also, Kraven's Last Hunt, which took one of the campiest villains in all of Spider-Man's Rogues' Gallery, made him a completely sympathetic and utter bad-ass, then had him commit suicide at the height of his triumph over Spidey. It was amazing, moving and utterly tragic.
Jeanne Grey's death was the most tragic, in my opinion. The fact that they brought her back to life doesn't diminish the trauma of seeing her end her own life on the pages of the X-men comics.
Superman. I know he had died befor, but when you're an 8 year old boy and Big blue is your favorite hero... seeing him die fighting Doomsday to save the world really hits you.
How is Captain America not on this? his death was so brutal and complex it made everyone cry right before the civil war film when they thought he'd die.
one of the really sad deaths for me was Deadpool, I know he was almost instantly resurrected in the whole anad run but when he was on that boat with his family hugging his daughter as the entire world was destroyed, that shit was sad
Not a bad list. A couple details details I want to add: Victoria Hand started off as a sort of villian (Dark Avenger), while Daniel Drumm is fundementally a hero. In the story where Victoria Hand died, Daniel Drumm blamed the Avengers for the death of his twin, Jericho Drumm (aka Brother Voodoo), so he attacked the Avengers. As for Colossus, he sacrificed his life to activate the Legacy Virus cure partly because his younger sister Illiyana (aka Magick) died from the virus (which was also quite a tragic moment as well). Karen Page didn't really have AIDS, it was part of a plot by Mysterio to mess with Matt Murdock. This one isn't on the list, but there was an issue of Fantastic Four (#285), where a young kid named Tommy Hanson set himself on fire and died because he wanted to be like his favourite hero, Johnny Storm (Human Torch).
Maybe not tragic for others, but Illyana Rasputin's "death" and Kitty Pryde's "death/disappearance" were pretty heartbreaking for some of us. Some else already mentioned the Leah mini-comic too.
Johnny Storm! At Hickman's Fantastic Four. It is the first time any of them dies. They are the royalty of Marvel. The story is so great that the chapter after his death has no dialogue, only images, and still puts tears in your eyes.
For me, Samuel Paré's death was one of the most tragic. He was Juggernaut's only friend. I was really heartbroken when I read the comic and am from time to time to this day...
I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet but it's Deadpool that Death is in an on again off again relationship. She has just been stringing Thanos along to make him crazy and kill ppl for her.
Illyana's death to the Legacy Virus in the early - mid 90s was pretty sad. She was just a child at that point. Of course they have brought her back and aged her to be Magik again, but she was dead for a relatively long time compared to other characters.
How could you forget Pietr's sister-Illyana? She was Kitty Prides BFF, then was transformed back to a child, caught the nasty disease for mutants only and died-it was a terrible loss! Surprised I didn't see it here
Death of Ultimate Spider-man was tragic in my opinion . Peter's last words to aunt may 'I did it' 'I saved you' 'I couldn't save uncle ben' 'but i saved you' It's not accurate but it was something like that .
Good vid, however a small factoid, Jean grey has only died twice. A lot of people get this wrong, saying that she's been revived multiple times, but this is untrue. Jean's "ultimate sacrifice", was not Jean, but the Phoenix Force, believing itself to be Jean Grey (due to the memories it took from her, while Jean herself was healing in a cocoon at the bottom of the sea). The character (as per her fictional timeline) has died twice. Once in New X-Men #149, by Wolverine gutting her in order to spare her from getting incinerated by the sun. Then in the next issue New X-Men #150 that character reaches her permanent demise at the hands of "Magneto" by being given a "planetary scale stroke". The character has remained dead ever since until the Marvel Now event, where a time displaced younger version of Jean is brought to the present.
Victoria Hand? Really? She was Norman Osborn's right-hand woman during the Dark Reign storyline. Spidey didn't throw Gwen over a bridge but his inexperience contributed to her death. Jean's recent death was also sad.
what bothers me about the movie winter soldier is that it is bucky but in the comics cap uses the cosmic cube (a device that can do anything) make him remember he is bucky. this meant until the movie came out they could always retcon it. they could always say its not bucky cap forced a guy who kind of looked like bucky to remember what he thought bucky was
I believe it was in fact a snap of the neck as the situation is somehow re-enacted with another girl (Mary Jane I think?). And this time Spider-man takes that into account and uses multiple web lines to secure the head, arms and legs to ensure there is no snap-back.
the death of wolverine. Wolverine is one of marvels OLDEST superheroes in marvel and thanks to all the x men movies he's gotten to be a well loved superhero and this story makes a sad story on seeing his end.
The death of Wolverine....knowing that he can't die, I can't to help but to wonder if he's trapped inside that adamantium prison reliving the point of complete suffication which brings death over and over....and over again.
Ultimate Spiderman: Death of Spiderman really hit me. Granted the Ultimate Universe has a lot of deaths which are tend to be permanent (Ultimatum) I reread that Ultimate Spiderman arc every time I need to feel emotion. Another tragic death would be Copycat in the old Deadpool comic. Poor poor Deadpool.
I will state although definitely not worthy in this top 10 list, but an honorable mention at best was Eric Masterson - Thunderstrike. He was a decent hero at the time. He definitely had quite a few fans that liked him. As it was perhaps understood also, Marvel most likely had to end his title due to lack of strong sales.
uncle ben has been brought back. In a comic a few years ago there was a story where there was a spider force that protected alternate time lines from overlapping and one of the members was an uncle ben from a universe where peter died he and may divorced and ben had a child that became a time traveling green goblin. Ben had modified doc octopus arms and a futuristic spider man suit that functioned more like iron man armor. In the end another version of ben killed the spider version and himself to set the timeline right.
superman's self-sacrificial death was sad, and spidey did have a similar death (even if it was corrected almost immediately via time travel). Though I think that Spider-man's death is made a little more brutal because he went into the fight with the foreknowledge that it would be his last. I am of course referencing the edge of time video game, not sure if its official canon or self-contained, but I enjoyed it.
Harold's death in Strike Force Morituri issue 6. Lorna's death in issue 4 was more shocking but Harold's was more heartbreaking, as he was the voice of the comic early on. There were many heartbreaking character deaths in Gillis' run on that comic. But it's not part of 616, so it might not count.
Jason Todd? I know he came back as The Red Hood and at the time, people voted for his death but it was a brutal enough death that it made readers go "What have we done?!"
the absolute most most tragic death in marvel comics history? a little girl. in the short story "Leah," a comic by Peter David and Colleen Doran, no powers, no secret identity, she was just a little girl who idolized spiderman.damn it, now i'm crying. her name was Leah, a little homeless girl who lived in a cardboard box in a dirty ally. she is in a coma, dying, her organs failing when spiderman finds her, it's to late all the doctors can do is make her comfortable and watch her die but we see in her fever dream her fondest wish was to be rescued by her hero spiderman www.dorkly.com/post/77616/uplifting-superhero-comics/page:2
this store will stab you right in the feels. Leah by Peter David and Colleen Doran. imgur.com/gallery/6hvbn
anyone not crying yet? how about if i tell you leah was a real person who really died, that it was peter david not parker who kissed her on her cheek as she lay on her death bed? www.peterdavid.net/archives/005099.html cue water works
in the comics of spiderman there is the original story that inspired this one: "the kid who collects spider-man"... in the end of the story we find out he has cancer and only have a couple of weeks left...heartbreaking.
Swift Swalow
and you know what is the most heartbreaking about these stories? they could be prevented! spiderman knows the smartest people in the world, as well as magic users, powerful healers and psionics, heck even a fet cosmic power beings. why not put them in stasis and let reed richards, hank mccoy and DOCTOR strange cure them?
for thatmatter, why hasn"t mr. fantastic cured cancer?
megazwatcher for what i heard the magic users are reluctant to helping with "mundane diseases" they don't want to alter the physical world or anyone in it unless it's 100% necessary, it's not so easy for them to decide who lives and who dies, so they'd rather not have a part on this subjects in any way. the cosmic beings aren't available 24/7 and spidey in that time had no way to contact with most of the other heroes in the hero community, he was merely starting his superhero career. reed Richards is a scientist, not a medic, he studied biology, but he is not sure even today if he could cure a desease. Mccoy is similar to this he is a biologist, not a medic, plus i don't know if spidey knew him in that point.... but yeah, i bet spidey could've found SOMEONE to help.
Two words. Silver Surfer. He dies of a cancer-like disease which eats away at his protective skin. He uses the Power Cosmic to send a burst of energy, which triggers apathy in all people on Earth, as a final gift, as the guy was just as friggin noble on his deathbed as he was a living mofo. Dr. Doom, Uatu, the Waatcher, Mr. Fantastic, Dr. Strange, almost all of the 'Marvel Geniuses", good or evil, try, but fail to save him, and that includes a heartfelt Galactus. He eventually travels back to his home planet of Zen-La, and dies after seeing his beloved Shalla-Bal one last time....
Or did Marvel bring HIM back to life and I missed the memo?
He's currently got a series.
that was a different universe version of The Silver Surfer not the 616 version.
Meh...ever since the idiots ended the Spider-marriage, I hardly read their crap!
Harvey Abel aren't they retconning one more day out or something?
NinjaTyler Doubtful....they seem SO deadset on keeping the marriage out of the comic. At least we have "Renew Your Vows" - fun read so far (issue #1).
I personally think Spiderman's sickness and death in "The Other" was the most tragic thing I've ever seen in comics. Rarely is a superhero death so built up, and he didn't die in honor exactly, he was fighting a much much stronger guy who ate his eye, beat him until he was unrecognizable and left him in a semi-commatose state. You can argue that he found some secret spider powers and defeated him in the end, but he still died in the arms of Mary Jane all bandadged up. I don't think I've ever actually cried over drawn pictures of fictional characters, but that was the one exception.
Morlun, he is the biggest bad in his rouge gallery, and is the antagonist of spiderverse, it was so satisfying when silk kills him.
Alexander Angelus I got that comic
Ya'll forgot Spidey's death back in Death of Spider-man.Dude took a falling gasoline truck to the face
wasnt that the ultimate universe Not earth 616?
Aunt May crying and shouting at Captain America was so painful i still feel sad by the sheer memory of it.
Aunt May crying and shouting at Captain America was so painful i still feel sad by the sheer memory of it.
That's not what made his death memorable. He was shot, unmasked, fighting the Sinister Six in his home neighborhood. Vulture, Kraven, Electro, Sandman...uh...Green Goblin...who else was there? Wasn't Doc Ock, he was very dead...which was sad as he had finally decided to stop being a criminal and be a scientist once again.
+TheBlues32 it was action packed, heroic, and pretty awesome but it doesn't feel real. thinking the avengers will come back just in time and he will eventually live. maybe death of spiderman is just about the his superhero identity and not about peter.
aunt may and captain america's exchange made it real. it changed his death from an action sequence to a tribute with most of his villains showing up.
What if Uncle Ben is Snoke?
mind blown!
😂😂😂
:O It all makes sense
Better yet, What if Barb was Uncle Ben WHO IS NOW SNOKE!
*explosions in the background*
whos barb
Spider-Man should have been #1. Spider-Man is one of, if not, the greatest characters of Marvel. Growing up I loved Spider-Man, especially Tobey Maguire, and it was a very heartbreaking moment to me.
Tobey is a cry baby
oh come on, we all know the Marvel death every fan fears and dreads the most will be Stan Lee. i will stop reading comic books after that and im 52. it just wouldnt be the same
they are legends because they did what they loved and conveyed thier enthusiasm to the fans. make mine marvel, F.O.O.M., stan lees soapbox all hoaky and amateurish compared to today its true but lately...grrr Thor should never be a girl, Iron Heart, Prof X killed by one of his first students; the disappointments go on and on and Marvel feels more like a corporation than a fan club. if i had talent i would make comic books fun again.
just one last EXCELSIOR!! for old times sake, then i guess its finally time to grow up
have a good day
It will be a dark day when Stan Lee can no longer say "Excelsior!"
youBoob heroes get remembered, but legends never die!!!!
Nando Ginkaku tf
Why wouldn't it be the same? He has nothing to do with the comics anymore, and hasn't for years.
And here I thought I was the only one that read the Runaways comics......
nope it has pretty good following...did you hear Hulu has gotten the series?
Makes me sad, I don't have a Hulu account :'(
Lol me either, but Idk if you have Kodi (highly recommend it if not) but it'll be available very soon after the release.
i doubt it would have survived if only one person is reading it
awesome title though
no, there are a couple more of us
Whatculture....
You know your wrestling & you know your games.
But you don't know comics. Your attempts to pretend you do are kind of cringeworthy to us real fans.
1. Victoria Hand is a copy of Amanda Waller, she is not original but she is still a good character.
2. The saying is there are THREE people that stay dead in comics. Not two. Uncle Ben, Bucky Barnes & Gwen Stacey. All three have in recent years, returned from the grave.
3. Yes, Uncle Ben DID come back.
4. It's not a mystery, Spidey killed Gwen by accident while trying to save her.
5. The most tragic death is The Fantastic Four, at the hands of FOX & that awful movie.
You're welcome
If you want to feature comics... hire me
NEEEEEEEEEEEEERD!!!
*cunty comment alert*
Bullshit. This is the same list that nearly any Comic Channel would post. Maybe the order would be different, but it would be all of these characters. Anyone that says any different is a liar and a cheat!
*cunty comment alert 2:*
1. Is an opinion, not fact
2. No, he didn't
3. See 2
4. It's better to say that _currently_ the truth is that Spider-man's web snapped her neck, but it's changed through the years. Hell, even Stan Lee doesn't agree that that's how she died
5. *sigh*
Feel free to name comics where any of these points are proven false
3. Did he really come back? Or are you referring to the alternate-universe Uncle Ben that appeared in Spider-Verse?
Skurge The Executioner, Thor #362.
He held the bridge at Gjallerbru...
That should have been #1. It's insane that they didn't even put it on the list.
Captain America at the end of Civil War.
He died after CW, not at the end of it
It was in the book for Civil War
Why is Karen's death tragic, didn't she sell out daredevils secret multiple times?
It's tragic because of the road she went down and in the end, she never managed to get clean and make amends like everyone hoped she would. And despite how her life ended up and whatever she had done, Matt Murdock still loved her.
Sebastian, being a flawed character doesn't make her death any less tragic.
Nicky Morris Given "tragic" implies "unhappy ending" and most DD fans probably cheered when she got what was coming to her, yes - by definition, not tragic at all.
Larry Wolf A woman getting killed, just as she's trying to turn her life around is tragic. Whether you, or other fans happen to like her or not.
Nicky Morris The definition of "tragedy/tragic" begs to differ. What happened to Karen Paige is justice and if it happened to a man, odds are you'd be "lol, he deserved it" I wager.
There's nothing tragic about a person who committed wrongdoing getting their comeuppance. Tragedy implies innocence.
Yea, as you brought up yourself comic deaths are never tragic because they never stay dead. you want to do an impressive list? find the top ten most permanent comic book deaths. if you can even find ten permanent deaths in comic books, then i'll be impressed. just so we're clear, these would have to deaths of major characters, not all the nameless pizza delivery guys that deadpool has killed over the years.
jean grey (Died December 2003)
thunderbird
ben parker
captain Mar-vell
bill foster (black goliath)
jack of hearts
the Ancient one
Avalanche (brotherhood of evil)
the hellions
Roger Bochs (alpha flight)
Fabian Cortez
Genesis (Tyler Dayspring)
Ant-man 1
Howard Stark
the Mandarin
Mastermind (died 1993!)
Nova (Richard Rider)
Richard and Mary Parker (died 1968!!!)
megazwatcher They literally all came back with the exception of thunderbird (and even he came back once), and ben parker (and the like) is not who I would call a major character....see, this is a very difficult topic.
Is the criteria behind your request that they are dead now, or that they only died one time in their entire publication history? It would definitely be hard, if not impossible, to satisfy the second one, but you ask for "permanent" deaths in your original post. There is no way to know which deaths are permanent, because any death can be overturned in comics (they just get worse and worse with every retcon), but the best we can do is assume current deaths are permanent until shown otherwise. In that case, there are a lot of characters that are dead right now and megazwatcher gave a good list.
SgtSupaman the second one.
clericofchaos1
actually not so much
sure there is A jean grey however, this is i different jean grey, one who was never the phoenix, never mafrried cyclops and has not lived the decades of life as an x-man that the REAL jean grey did
captain mar-vell also not back, they had a mind wiped skrull who thought he was mar-vell
the current mastermind is the dead one's daughter
nova has been replaced with a different kid in the suit
etc, etc. etc
even wolverine, now returned as "old man" wolverine is not the same person
these comic book deaths have been and will continue to be real for the forseeable future
you forgot punishers whole family
I found Endsong to be a tear jerker. It probably doesn't help that Cyclopes and Jean are my favorite X-Men.
You can swap #1 and #2... k thnx.... nobody was upset over Jean Grey's (many) death(s).
people were plenty upset over the first one
I'd say the same
was just thinking the same thing, it actually became a joke in later issues of x-men
+Tungus Grump
... the first one... in 1976? When pretty much the majority commenting on here wasn't even alive (let alone had read an X-men comic), only for her to be resurrected like.. immediately? Who was upset over that?
Or the 2nd time in 1980... (see above for age range demographics)?
By the time she died twice in 1991, it had already become a recurring theme that nobody thought she wouldn't be coming back already as she's now expected to die (which she did and died again in 1995... twice in 2003... twice in 2005... I mean come on)
John West IV Yeah in 1980 fans threw a fit, as did a couple of people who actually worked on the book. And yes, I was quite alive and reading comics in 1980. And while it was only a few yrs until Byrne came up with a workable retcon to bring her back in Fantastic Four, it felt like an eternity. She may not have been any great shakes in 1976, but by 1980 she was second only to Wolverine in popularity. Just because there was no internet in 1980 doesn't mean people weren't pissed. The world does not revolve around Millennials. Thank god.
The way Nightcrawler died was a pretty big gut punch
only to find him resurrected in the pages of Uncanny X Force in a weird way.
Dude the death of wolverine was so sad that should have made the list
Agreed
I would argue that Ultimate Spiderman's death is pretty damn tragic, given that it's a last stand before he finally comes to terms with the fact that he successfully saved Aunt May, going someway to forgive himself for not being able to save Uncle Ben. Seriously, the motion comic is on RUclips, it is heart breaking stuff, and I don't even read Spiderman.
Victoria Hand was never ever head of SHIELD... she was FIRED from SHIELD when she was an accountant who got sacked for sending Nick Fury letters on what she (in her experience as an accountant) thought he was doing wrong. Then she was deputy head of HAMMER the evil organisation Norman Osborn built to replace SHIELD after he was put in charge... Basicly to be his go to lacky/yes lady/admin... The when SHIELD came back with Captain America in charge she was made admin person for the New Avengers
Kraven.
What an Epic read when I was 12. The 4 part Spiderman-Kraven Series.
how do you kill wolverine ? you drown him lol
he wouldn't be dead more imprisoned
Or cover him in liquid adimantium like in the comic were he lost his healing abilities
Or Stab him with a Ancient Sword
or you write him out of the comics
you make a movie about him without hugh jackman playing him
Please be Adam, please be Adam...Oh ffs
Oh comeon Ben is good
This is a shit comment for wankers #shitcommentforwankers
Scarlett Bandit thanks. I needed that.
The part about Spider-Man and Gwen Stacey; It was confirmed by Marvel Comics on the back of the comic that Gwen died as a result of Spider-Man trying to save her. Although Spider-man never knew for certain.
What about Cable sacrificing himself to bring the x force back to the present and Hope watching him go to pieces????!!!!
And Nightcrawler's death??
all complaints aside am I the only one that appreciates the comedic elevator music in these WhatCulture videos lol
They brought back Uncle Ben in Spiderverse.
but it's not THE uncle ben... they didn't revive him, the 616 uncle ben is dead still.
King Jon Starkgeryan can we acknowledge though that in the one universe uncle Ben lives, everyone else dies?
ClaimedSilver yeah that's more fucked up then him being dead in every universe, at least in the end he gets to have a good life
too be fair, it was an alternate universe uncle Ben
i thought the ultimate peter parker would make it on the list
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spiderman's death at the end of ultimate spiderman after getting shot saving captain americas life and then single handedly beating the sinister 6 with a bullet wound and beating norman ozborn to death DEFINITELY takes the cake for most tragic and most epic death for me.
there's no mystery over how Gwen died, it was the whiplash effect, so Spidey did kinda kill her
Not really, Osborn killed her.
Yes Peter has a role in it, in his attempt to save her, but unless she was going to land in a giant vat of especially fluffy marshmallows, she was dead no matter what Parker did.
Samael 11 He was talking about the movie. So in a sense you both are right.
NO! Damn!!! You totally SHOULD HAVE SAID that it's absolutely devastating and it adds a lot of tragedy to Gwen's death hath she had just had a romance with his killer, Norman Osborn, she had just mothered two of his sons, and that she and Peter never actually had sex, while she and the Goblin did.
usually hate these top 10 lists but this is a nice way of doing it. I like it!
I love Avengers Vs. X-men, especially the part where Spidey gives Hope some surprisingly sage advice, and then makes good on it in that volcano, after telling Iron Fist to tell Hope that he, "Meant what [he] said". That' such an emotional moment, don't you think?
Sentry should be up here. He wasn't a major player for very long, but his solo series was really good, and what he goes through during Dark Reign and Siege is just heart-breaking. I kinda wish they would bring Sentry back, considering he's maybe the most powerful hero since Superman, and much more interesting.
It's recognised, in canon that Spidey killed Gwen (though had he done nothing, she'd still die). For starters when Green Goblin did literally the exact ame thing to Mary Jane, Spidey saved her by using multiple webs, this time spreading the impact of suddenly stopping out through her whole body. Also in Civil War Tony uses Spiderman breaking Gwen's neck as an example of why superheroes to register and be trained. Had Spiderman more experience/training he could have saved Gwen. That's one of the key things about Spiderman, he's young and imperfect.
Thank you for adding Gertrude Yorkes!!! Cried alot when she died
Nice. Very thorough. no complaints.
Even though I'm English I love you voice. Most tragic for me was the death of Fantomex's "mother". He was forever introducing her to people but one time when he visits her an army of superhero-deathloks come and kill her. At the end him and Cluster take Psylocke to meet his Mother and Psylocke says "is this real?" and he says "maybe. Is anything? What do I know?" and it's super sad for me bc I think he's misdirecting himself to think his mother is there living alone in the French alps and is always happy to see him.
Marvel killing off the X-Men over movie rights is more tragic than any of these deaths.
For what it's worth, there was a "What If?" comic where Peter Parker stopped the robber that had killed Uncle Ben in the main timeline. Ben survives and Peter never learns the power/responsibility bit and he ends up using his power to become a professional wrestler, action hero, and celebrity. J.J. Jameson's son dies in a space shuttle crash and blames Spider-Man because he had the power to help but did nothing.
You're gonna go ahead and include Gert, but not Chase himself? That was a crushing end to the Runaways series.
Prof X death would be good if AvX was any good.
(Colossus as Dark Phoenix? WTF?!)
you mean the Colossus / juggernaut Plus Phoenix.....oh nevermind lol
Still not as bad as Uncanny Avengers Vol 1.
Some guy recently resurrected Gwen Stacy for the 2016 series of the Amazing Spider-Man, Jean Grey from the past is now in the present, and why isn't Wolverine on this list? I mean, sure they brought Old Man Logan from an alternate dystopian future, but that isn't THE Wolverine, that title passed on to X-23.
The Death of Wolverine?
NOTHING?
Meh. Wasn't his first, won't be his last. Besides he was replaced by Old Man Logan, who's exact copy of classic Wolverine, but older.
You forgot about Captain Marvel's son, Genis-Vell. Just getting over his insanity and using his cosmic awareness correctly for the first time in order to live up to his father's name, he came to the Thunderbolts to redeem his name. During the same issue, he's injured (thought dead) and to try and save him, Zemo fuses his nega-bands into him. They have a weird effect and he's slowly destroying the universe - so they split his body apart and left him in the Darkforce Dimension. A statue for him was made next to his father's.
Totally missed Captain Jean DeWolff, a supporting character in Spider-Man, who occasionally had the possibility, never realized, of becoming a romantic interest, and who was brutally slain by the first Sin-Eater, who was also one of her fellow officers. It was one of those occasions that had Spidey flashing back to Gwen's death, and he quite nearly killed Sin-Eater in the middle of the street with his bare hands.
Also, Kraven's Last Hunt, which took one of the campiest villains in all of Spider-Man's Rogues' Gallery, made him a completely sympathetic and utter bad-ass, then had him commit suicide at the height of his triumph over Spidey. It was amazing, moving and utterly tragic.
Seriously A top 10 of characters that died i cared nothing about !
Jeanne Grey's death was the most tragic, in my opinion.
The fact that they brought her back to life doesn't diminish the trauma of seeing her end her own life on the pages of the X-men comics.
Nightcrawler's death in "Second Coming" always hit me the hardest.
How powerful is Jean Grey as Dark/Phoenix? Is she more powerful than Eternity? The embodiment of the universe, What do u guys think?
Yes, she is, when she become The White Phoenix of the Crown, only the Creator is beyond her.
Superman. I know he had died befor, but when you're an 8 year old boy and Big blue is your favorite hero... seeing him die fighting Doomsday to save the world really hits you.
"A little 'snap' next to her thighs as the web clings to it".
-Shows the panel with the 'snap' next to her head.
That "little snap" was actually added LATER - those marvel cheats!
The Punisher, but what was even more tragic was Franken-Castle....
How is Captain America not on this? his death was so brutal and complex it made everyone cry right before the civil war film when they thought he'd die.
Actually gave a cheer that Gertrude Yorkes was included in this list. Truly was tragic.
one of the really sad deaths for me was Deadpool, I know he was almost instantly resurrected in the whole anad run but when he was on that boat with his family hugging his daughter as the entire world was destroyed, that shit was sad
What about wonder man
Almost no one cares about Wonder Man, so his death tragic or not, goes unnoticed because, again, no one cares.
You missed Johnny Storm. That story was so unexpected and the comics which followed after in that story were bloody depressing.
Not a bad list. A couple details details I want to add: Victoria Hand started off as a sort of villian (Dark Avenger), while Daniel Drumm is fundementally a hero. In the story where Victoria Hand died, Daniel Drumm blamed the Avengers for the death of his twin, Jericho Drumm (aka Brother Voodoo), so he attacked the Avengers. As for Colossus, he sacrificed his life to activate the Legacy Virus cure partly because his younger sister Illiyana (aka Magick) died from the virus (which was also quite a tragic moment as well). Karen Page didn't really have AIDS, it was part of a plot by Mysterio to mess with Matt Murdock.
This one isn't on the list, but there was an issue of Fantastic Four (#285), where a young kid named Tommy Hanson set himself on fire and died because he wanted to be like his favourite hero, Johnny Storm (Human Torch).
Maybe not tragic for others, but Illyana Rasputin's "death" and Kitty Pryde's "death/disappearance" were pretty heartbreaking for some of us.
Some else already mentioned the Leah mini-comic too.
Illyana 'Magik' Rasputin
Johnny Storm! At Hickman's Fantastic Four. It is the first time any of them dies. They are the royalty of Marvel. The story is so great that the chapter after his death has no dialogue, only images, and still puts tears in your eyes.
For me, Samuel Paré's death was one of the most tragic. He was Juggernaut's only friend.
I was really heartbroken when I read the comic and am from time to time to this day...
I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet but it's Deadpool that Death is in an on again off again relationship. She has just been stringing Thanos along to make him crazy and kill ppl for her.
Illyana's death to the Legacy Virus in the early - mid 90s was pretty sad. She was just a child at that point. Of course they have brought her back and aged her to be Magik again, but she was dead for a relatively long time compared to other characters.
Very few people probably remember him, but the death of Maggott at the Neverland concentration camp still stays with me.
Captain America getting sniped was one. Came out of nowhere
How could you forget Pietr's sister-Illyana? She was Kitty Prides BFF, then was transformed back to a child, caught the nasty disease for mutants only and died-it was a terrible loss! Surprised I didn't see it here
How about.. Nightcrawler? Ya know, he sacrificed himself so that Hope Summers could live
Death of Ultimate Spider-man was tragic in my opinion .
Peter's last words to aunt may 'I did it'
'I saved you'
'I couldn't save uncle ben'
'but i saved you'
It's not accurate but it was something like that .
They might as well change their name to what culture marvel
What about Adam Warlock in GOTG: war of kings? That was distressing...
Good vid, however a small factoid, Jean grey has only died twice. A lot of people get this wrong, saying that she's been revived multiple times, but this is untrue. Jean's "ultimate sacrifice", was not Jean, but the Phoenix Force, believing itself to be Jean Grey (due to the memories it took from her, while Jean herself was healing in a cocoon at the bottom of the sea). The character (as per her fictional timeline) has died twice. Once in New X-Men #149, by Wolverine gutting her in order to spare her from getting incinerated by the sun. Then in the next issue New X-Men #150 that character reaches her permanent demise at the hands of "Magneto" by being given a "planetary scale stroke". The character has remained dead ever since until the Marvel Now event, where a time displaced younger version of Jean is brought to the present.
Victoria Hand? Really? She was Norman Osborn's right-hand woman during the Dark Reign storyline.
Spidey didn't throw Gwen over a bridge but his inexperience contributed to her death.
Jean's recent death was also sad.
what bothers me about the movie winter soldier is that it is bucky but in the comics cap uses the cosmic cube (a device that can do anything) make him remember he is bucky. this meant until the movie came out they could always retcon it. they could always say its not bucky cap forced a guy who kind of looked like bucky to remember what he thought bucky was
5:35 "there must also come great responsibility" FINALLY! Someone got it right!
I believe it was in fact a snap of the neck as the situation is somehow re-enacted with another girl (Mary Jane I think?). And this time Spider-man takes that into account and uses multiple web lines to secure the head, arms and legs to ensure there is no snap-back.
Silver Surfer: Requiem was one of the most moving comics I've ever read. Norrin Radd should have been #1.
How about a DC video for a change ?
Anyone in DeadPool kills the Marvel Universe or Even Punisher's version
7:51 "She explains her choice to her long-suffering and tearful husband Scott." Scott and Jean were not married at the time.
the death of wolverine.
Wolverine is one of marvels OLDEST superheroes in marvel and thanks to all the x men movies he's gotten to be a well loved superhero and this story makes a sad story on seeing his end.
WhatCulture should label which voice is presenting and put them all in individual playlists
The death of Wolverine....knowing that he can't die, I can't to help but to wonder if he's trapped inside that adamantium prison reliving the point of complete suffication which brings death over and over....and over again.
so glad to see gert on here. that shit cut me deep when it first happened
The Civil war comic series explains that Spiderman couldn't prevent Gwens neck from breaking when he tried to stop her from falling.
Ultimate Spiderman: Death of Spiderman really hit me. Granted the Ultimate Universe has a lot of deaths which are tend to be permanent (Ultimatum) I reread that Ultimate Spiderman arc every time I need to feel emotion. Another tragic death would be Copycat in the old Deadpool comic. Poor poor Deadpool.
Peter David the guy who brought back the Lord Papal and the 12 Gods in Dreadstar???
Thats hilarious
I will state although definitely not worthy in this top 10 list, but an honorable mention at best was Eric Masterson - Thunderstrike. He was a decent hero at the time. He definitely had quite a few fans that liked him. As it was perhaps understood also, Marvel most likely had to end his title due to lack of strong sales.
Possessed Jaime Braddock's death at the hands of his brother possessed by his sister.
Literally teared up while reading it
uncle ben has been brought back. In a comic a few years ago there was a story where there was a spider force that protected alternate time lines from overlapping and one of the members was an uncle ben from a universe where peter died he and may divorced and ben had a child that became a time traveling green goblin. Ben had modified doc octopus arms and a futuristic spider man suit that functioned more like iron man armor. In the end another version of ben killed the spider version and himself to set the timeline right.
2:32 what go's through my head every day
Idk why Im finding the way u put "the girl with no powers but somehow has a falaso raptor as a protector" so funny😂😂😂
How frustrating is it to be death in the comic universe. its like her realm is just a revolving door
What's up with that "Shit X for wankers" thingy? It's annoying and out of place. Can someone please explain this to me?
superman's self-sacrificial death was sad, and spidey did have a similar death (even if it was corrected almost immediately via time travel). Though I think that Spider-man's death is made a little more brutal because he went into the fight with the foreknowledge that it would be his last. I am of course referencing the edge of time video game, not sure if its official canon or self-contained, but I enjoyed it.
Harold's death in Strike Force Morituri issue 6. Lorna's death in issue 4 was more shocking but Harold's was more heartbreaking, as he was the voice of the comic early on. There were many heartbreaking character deaths in Gillis' run on that comic. But it's not part of 616, so it might not count.
Jason Todd? I know he came back as The Red Hood and at the time, people voted for his death but it was a brutal enough death that it made readers go "What have we done?!"
whenvi watched 1st class when 11 and when Darwin died i was devestated.
Also Black Widow's deaths are tragical.Hitting to the neck with shield is just terrifying