Seiko Sumo vs Seiko Turtle - Which to buy?

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  • Опубликовано: 25 окт 2024

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  • @juancabreu11
    @juancabreu11 4 года назад +73

    Thanks so much for the video Bruce!!! Really appreciate you took the time to respond my email with a vid!! Thanks again, Juan

    • @BruceWilliams
      @BruceWilliams  4 года назад +2

      You bet!

    • @JoeSmith-np6nz
      @JoeSmith-np6nz 4 года назад +1

      Good comparison!

    • @drwindsurf
      @drwindsurf 4 года назад +2

      I would try a couple of Seikos on and shop around. I thought the Turtle would be too big and I tried it on and it fit way smaller than the size would suggest. I bought mine on eBay for $225 - considerably less than retail.

    • @billmurphy893
      @billmurphy893 4 года назад +2

      Juan Carlos Abreu I have both and so I agree with Bruce but would add that the sumo has less alignment issues than the turtles so in the buy decision this might be important. My seiko diver fleet includes an SKX, a 3rd gen Monster, a sumo and an anthracite turtle. I prefer the 6r15 but it really doesn’t make a difference as far as accuracy goes.

    • @billmurphy893
      @billmurphy893 4 года назад

      Thanks for the video I had the same questions in the beginning and started with an SKX007 and then bought too many more Seiko divers but kept em all.

  • @juancabreu11
    @juancabreu11 4 года назад +17

    Hey Bruce, I finally bought the King Turtle in black!!! Amazing piece and for $400 it was a steal!! Now I’m going for the Sumo!!!

  • @Lee_K_5555
    @Lee_K_5555 4 года назад +15

    I think Bruce did an excellent job comparing the two watches as well as considerations of other variants.
    I've owned three Turtles and two Sumos. My favorite Seiko diver of all time is the Sumo, mostly because of the bold design of the dial and the case is surprisingly sophisticated and elegant for the price point. I've never had a 6R15 movement that has impressed me. The 4R36 in the Turtle has been perfectly fine and reasonably accurate. I believe the 22 mm strap width of the Turtle blends better aesthetically with the 45 case diameter than the Sumo's 20 mm. The Sumo has really long lugs with the spring bars right at the end, so there is a large gap between the end of a traditional two-piece strap and the case side. That bothers some people, me included, so my Sumo is worn on single-pass NATO straps only for that very reason. I believe the Turtle is more strap-friendly, looking great on rubber, nylon, sailcloth, leather, or the OEM bracelet.
    Much as I like the Sumo, I think it requires a bit of thought and would not be surprised if most people prefer the Turtle due to the smaller lug-to-lug length, multitude of colors and variants, and lower price.

    • @HammerK99
      @HammerK99 3 года назад

      Lee K
      Well said. I didn't know that about the spring bar space on the Sumo. You'd like a zulu from Bertucci then.

  • @cowboyswami2017
    @cowboyswami2017 4 года назад +13

    I own both, so I would say also get both. If only one choice I would pick turtle. I just picked up another turtle two days ago for $256 on ebay. U cant beat that. Great video !

  • @thehypercovery
    @thehypercovery 4 года назад +19

    sumo finishing wins hands down, the case is a work of art

    • @plevine81
      @plevine81 4 года назад

      I see your point, but I actually prefer the tool-ish look of the turtle finishing, and definitely prefer a shorter lug-to-lug length.

  • @blackcatsarenopussies
    @blackcatsarenopussies 4 года назад +8

    Yes, Sumo might have a slightly better finish and a slightly better movement but you can't beat that iconic design and heritage of a Turtle.
    Anyway, it's hard to pick one over the other. You'll probably have second thoughts all the time

  • @tantu2395
    @tantu2395 4 года назад +9

    The 🐢 Turtle looks more "tooly" with day and date display and "pillow" case, Sumo is good looking ,more" dressy" but with a "Rolex" DNA that I don't like , that is why "save the ocean Limited Turtle" is one of my favorite daily beater .

  • @mellymelshaves
    @mellymelshaves 4 года назад +2

    Yo B-DUB! Based on this video, I picked up the Seiko Sumo over The Turtle. I just got it yesterday and BRUH!!! I am loving it! My brother recommended your channel. Ill try not to be in the rabbithole tho!!! Hehe!!

  • @Starstreak170
    @Starstreak170 4 года назад +15

    The 'Hardlex' mineral crystal on most of the Seiko divers is a joke. Why does Orient offer sapphire at a lower price? Seiko are supposed to moving upmarket, but the specs don't match the price.

    • @BruceWilliams
      @BruceWilliams  4 года назад +13

      They are just slow in moving towards market preference. Mineral is good for diving which is the purpose of many of these watches. I really think Seiko could care less what other brands even sister ones like Orient are doing

    • @thatsawesome2060
      @thatsawesome2060 9 месяцев назад

      I believe they intentions were planned obsolescence, Seiko has no problem Puting sapphire on cheap quartz but reluctant to put on automatic movement

  • @georgebeebe2385
    @georgebeebe2385 4 года назад +3

    Juan - I recently bought the Gen 3 Sumo (my first Seiko) and really like it. It started me on a Seiko addiction and I then picked up the Pepsi Turtle. I don’t think you can go wrong with either one. I really enjoy them both. If I could only get one, it would be the Sumo, probably, possibly, maybe. Yeah - the Sumo. If money is tight, get the Turtle and you’ll love it.

  • @chi-towncalifornia5916
    @chi-towncalifornia5916 4 года назад +4

    I’ve owned both, and I find the Sumo more nicely finished than the Turtle with a better movement. I ultimately kept the Turtle, because although the Sumo wrapped around my 6.75 inch wrists nicely, but the case felt like a Seiko SARB that took too many steroids, and the thinner bracelet made the watch less balanced on my wrist.

  • @Nahduge
    @Nahduge 4 года назад +3

    The blue coral was my best Seiko purchase ever.

  • @CC-yq5bw
    @CC-yq5bw 3 года назад +2

    I have both the Turtle King and the new Sumo and regret having both because they are both so good it bothers me to have one sitting around. Both came out of the box within COSC specs which was surprising. I've had terrible luck with some brands such as Hamilton and Orient with out of the box accuracy. The SUMO is -3/day and the Turtle is +3/day when warn 24x7. Both are sapphire so the biggest difference is the movement. One advantage of the SUMO movement is the anti-magnetism rating due to the Spron mainspring. Regardless, the gauss rating is the bare minimum at 4,800 which can just about resist a refrigerator magnet (compared to 15,000+ with new Omega's). Overall, I would say go with whatever strikes you as having the best look.

  • @dpioli
    @dpioli 2 года назад

    I think the answer should have been "if you are into retro history divers case watches go with The turtle, if you are look for a more modern tradicional design go for the sumo". I prefer the turtle... thanks for the video.

  • @edteach3r
    @edteach3r 4 года назад +2

    I own both and prefer either, depending upon... I don’t really know! It’s just that I end up alternating between these two great watches as the mood shifts. P.S. I own 16 Seikos.😎

  • @jwags24
    @jwags24 4 года назад +1

    I love the turtle! It wears so much smaller than what the specs would make you think. Definitely one of my favorite watches I have owned.

  • @aksaifuddinpb8978
    @aksaifuddinpb8978 4 года назад +1

    I love the Turtle especially the black series. But recently bought the Sumo Black Series and the Sumo Hawksbill Turtle (SPB192J1). IMO, the Sumo Hawksbill is definitely the best Sumo. Loving the 2 tone black and red bezel insert with rose gold bezel!

  • @greatonreviews
    @greatonreviews 8 месяцев назад

    I own both too, but I chose the King Turtle any time.
    Much more presence and the dial is just stunning 🥰

  • @danielloera25
    @danielloera25 4 года назад +5

    I own a Turtle and love it. But that said, I’ve been getting wandering eyes for the Sumo but the lug to lug kind of scares me. Considering the Turtle and SKX are the largest watches I wear. My preference being for 38-40mm watches with some 36mm exceptions on a 7in wrist.

    • @BruceWilliams
      @BruceWilliams  4 года назад +1

      I think you could definitely pull it off with a 7 inch wrist. The case wraps down nicely

  • @theguardian3431
    @theguardian3431 4 года назад +2

    Believe it or not, the Sumo actually wears quite well, even for smaller wrists. I have a 6.5 inch wrist and the new green Sumo just melts on the wrist and wears better than my PADI Turtle.

    • @sblantipodi
      @sblantipodi 4 года назад

      Agree, I have a 7 inch wrist and it wears perfectly.

  • @HealhoeGaming
    @HealhoeGaming 4 года назад +2

    i dont get why people make such a big deal about watch to wrist size, maybe just me but i got pretty small wrists and ill wear any size watch. who cares what other people think if you enjoy the watch and wearing it.

    • @NexDim.
      @NexDim. 3 года назад

      Totally agree, I have smaller wrists and actually like the look of bigger watches. It’s on my wrist, who cares what other people think.

  • @andrewhannam.
    @andrewhannam. 4 года назад +1

    The green sumo is very nice but the Turtles are my favorite Seiko divers period! Currently have a baby tuna and skx still in my collection but have multiple Turtles!

  • @mrp9498
    @mrp9498 4 года назад +1

    I own 2 Turtles. Save The Ocean GWS and Okinawa Sea grapes. I’ll have to try on a Sumo and check out the difference. Thanks for the video!👍🏼

  • @KRW628
    @KRW628 4 года назад +2

    Hey, Juan, The Sumo was the first serious (non-G-Shock) watch I bought. It is a great looking piece; what some would call a "dress diver". It looks good with a suit. It looks good wearing casual clothes..Buy the Gen 2- that's got the fat numbers on the bezel. I think it looks better than the new ones (and it's a LOT cheaper).

  • @hamishmaude390
    @hamishmaude390 4 года назад +3

    Turtle for me hands down. Handset and bezel insert of sumo (IMO) are less attractive compared with Turtle. Would love my SRP777 with sapphire crystal + ceramic bezel.

  • @Stclairm1
    @Stclairm1 4 года назад +1

    I wear my turtle 70% of the time over my solar Seiko diver. I bought a new Sumo last fall and plan to trade it to the dealer soon. I like the looks of the previous gen Sumo better. I think for what the new Sumo cost, it should have come with a ceramic bezel.

    • @zouki42
      @zouki42 2 года назад

      Aluminium is more interesting as regards the color. Brings more shades of color

  • @petervernelen6784
    @petervernelen6784 2 года назад

    Thx for the video, just ordered my first seiko and went with the king turtle SRPE03K1 almost went for the king samurai but that iconic turtle design won me over.

  • @ericgrace9995
    @ericgrace9995 2 года назад

    One year later.
    Earlier this year I bought the latest version of the Sumo (70hr. Power reserve) for less than the RRP price of the King Turtle.
    I just ordered a King Samurai (white dial) from an AD with a £200 discount. Sale price £330 GBP.
    You take a risk with alignment buying online for the "best deal". I defer the gratification of buying until I get a really good deal from an AD.
    There are maybe half a dozen watches, in an affordable price range, I would like to own. When I see one on offer .. I buy it.

  • @ibastratepi
    @ibastratepi 2 года назад

    If you like straps and mesh, it's gotta be the turtle because the Sumo has small 20mm lugs and that huge case gap. The turtle OEM bracelet also seems to fit the case a bit better.

  • @manuel_winde
    @manuel_winde Год назад

    I love the sumo- having owned 5 along with every pretty much every modern automatic diver from Seiko over the last 10 years, the sumo is the best bang for buck.
    I loved the mm300 & 62mas and have owned 2 of each but you can pick sumos up for $400/£350 and at that price it blows everything out of the park.
    I have a 7in/18cm wrist and they fit and suit me fine. My only issue is the lack of specified accuracy (same problem with all Seikos though. I’d factor in £50 for a regulation as an insurance option.
    I currently have the padi/Pepsi version and may go for a strapcode jubilee/Angus to upgrade it at some point.

  • @Therollingpanda
    @Therollingpanda 4 года назад +10

    I’ve recently bought my first Seiko, a king turtle, and absolutely love it, the cyclops and that case design set it apart for me.
    Also it comes with a ceramic bezel and sapphire Crystal, so what’s not to like?

  • @1968jpy
    @1968jpy 4 года назад

    Awesome video comparison Bruce . I own both the Blumo and the Padi Turtle 🐢. Both are awesome and amazing watches but like you I like the Sumo more and to me is a more comfortable wearing watch . The Turtle almost seems to wear larger although I know both watches are 45,mm . I think it must have to do with the bracelet on the Turtle is 22 mm and the Sumo being only 20 . That being said Seiko amazes me with their watches and the optical illusion part of their watches 👍🏻

    • @BruceWilliams
      @BruceWilliams  4 года назад +1

      They really do! No other brand makes big watches so wearable

  • @phillippugh2161
    @phillippugh2161 4 года назад +5

    Big turtle fan here . To me just so unique , I have been thinking of adding the green sumo , Bruce what's your opinion of the green sumo. manly the color combination

    • @BruceWilliams
      @BruceWilliams  4 года назад +4

      I really like it, it is a deep olive, almost black until you get it in the sun then it really lights up

    • @phillippugh2161
      @phillippugh2161 4 года назад +1

      @@BruceWilliams thanks Bruce I need to just pull the trigger.....add another seiko hahah. Us seiko guys need help Haha 😉

  • @k.iskandar
    @k.iskandar Год назад

    I much prefer the Turtle than the Sumo. But they are both beautiful.

  • @ma61king
    @ma61king 4 года назад +1

    I own the PADI turtle but now I really want that green Sumo... and a Prospex LX

  • @_illmatic_
    @_illmatic_ 4 года назад +4

    I have both a Sumo and a King Turtle and yes I also paid more for my King Turtle than my Sumo however if I could only have one, I have to go with the Sumo. The finish and quality seems like a cut above the Turtle in all regards. Case design, movement, dial/markers and hands are all just amazing.

  • @blurayauthority
    @blurayauthority 4 года назад +1

    It takes Juan to know Juan.

  • @marcgoldbergdogtrainer
    @marcgoldbergdogtrainer 4 года назад +1

    Thanks Bruce! Really nice comparison. I’m sucker for a day/date complication so 🐢 turtle by a nose.

  • @MarttiSuomivuori
    @MarttiSuomivuori 2 года назад

    If you work irregular hours and nights, it is great to have the day date.
    Other than that, you really have to nitpick to differentiate between the two.

  • @511dydy
    @511dydy 4 года назад +1

    Turtle of course, much better design.

  • @haping1
    @haping1 3 года назад +2

    Nice video. Cannot believe that Seiko doesn't have a signed crown anymore. Although they raised the prices quit substancial.

  • @realfire6883
    @realfire6883 4 года назад +2

    I'm definitely digging seikos I just for some reason cant get past the crown position on some of their models. Just recently picked up a sbdc051 for 650 brand new, LOVE IT!!

    • @sumanth13
      @sumanth13 4 года назад

      Where did you get that deal?

    • @realfire6883
      @realfire6883 4 года назад

      @@sumanth13 Ebay...

  • @valueink
    @valueink 4 года назад +1

    The Sumo is almost too nice for everyday wear to me. I really like the SRPC023 for daily wear better.

  • @sblantipodi
    @sblantipodi 4 года назад

    Agreed, Sumo for me too. Don't think on it twice.

  • @wanfahmy8017
    @wanfahmy8017 4 года назад +1

    I really wish that the 3rd gen sumo uses ceramic bezel instead of aluminum. Mine had a few scratches although I've been babying my sumo.

  • @mohdfahmiahmadkhairi
    @mohdfahmiahmadkhairi 3 года назад

    after watching your video, i think i will buy seiko sumo.

  • @gerryfonklover7481
    @gerryfonklover7481 4 года назад

    Owning the first mm300 and many other seiko I would say the sumo, if you pay road price, its a lot watch for money, superior to the turtle and many other divers in the under 1k price range.

  • @henrywest7217
    @henrywest7217 4 года назад

    A nice and brief presentation today. And to me very relevant. Also thank you for not mentioning Horology House. That topic is getting boring.

    • @BruceWilliams
      @BruceWilliams  4 года назад +1

      I agree no need to beat a dead horse

  • @SuperBocetildes
    @SuperBocetildes 3 года назад +2

    The Turtle looks way better.

  • @OCz4Life
    @OCz4Life 4 года назад

    Sumo's a better watch, and fits great on a wrist. I got myself a turtle and it's a let down compared to a Sumo. From what I saw every person who saw or had both prefered the Sumo as well

    • @1233-d3h
      @1233-d3h 4 года назад +1

      Oposite with me. Own a Turtle and love it. Bought a Sumo, and sold it after a few days. Lug to lug is a bit large for me, and a 20mm lug width anoyed me. Also i hated the fact that you cant grab the bezel at 3 and 9 o'clock.

  • @Vintage-635
    @Vintage-635 4 года назад +3

    "Which to buy?" both! 😉

  • @drwindsurf
    @drwindsurf 4 года назад

    Thank you for a great comparison Bruce :)

  • @awnik99
    @awnik99 4 года назад

    As my wrists are only 14 cm i went for turtle because i was afraid that lug to lug on sumo would be too much. If my wrists were bigger i would definatly buy both!

  • @okihaveaname
    @okihaveaname 4 года назад +3

    "turn into a Seiko-path like me..." 😂
    Love my turtle with lumed bezel but that's..... excessive.

  • @bradd5961
    @bradd5961 2 года назад

    Would you say wearability for a Daily driver is much better for the Sumo vs MM300. They are relatively close in weight from what I can see. I'm thinking that if the wearability comfort is similar I might as well step.up.to.the mm300 or bad idea?

  • @Orca2069
    @Orca2069 Год назад

    My opinion the turtle worth to buy cos thats model n price so really" reasonable especially in new great white shark turtle model so great dive watches 💥💥💥

  • @rlj151
    @rlj151 4 года назад

    I recently picked up the king turtle. I love it. Just wish the straps were longer as I am on the last hole. So ordered a bracelet with diver's extension from strapco.

  • @jinxUKBK
    @jinxUKBK 4 года назад +1

    Great vid Bruce. Would u change your bezel insert to ceramic on the new green sumo.

    • @BruceWilliams
      @BruceWilliams  4 года назад

      I wouldn't because I don't really get into modding.

  • @WINDINGCROWNS
    @WINDINGCROWNS 4 года назад

    Compra la tortuga!!! Haha, just wanted to use the native tongue. The turtle is a great watch. I had a srp777 and a srpa21 and sold both. REGRET😩 now I’m considering buy one of them again! Haven’t decided which though. I bought a citizen pro master Titanium and love it to death BUT still miss and want a turtle again. Cheers

  • @andyl2726
    @andyl2726 4 года назад +1

    Can I swap the bracelet to a seiko jubilee for the king turtle

  • @setter55
    @setter55 4 года назад +1

    Another great comparison video. I've had both the 033 blumo, and a 779 turtle. Both fairly large watches but wear great even on my 6.5" wrist. I did sell the turtle though to help fund a seiko marinemaster sbdx017. But I'll likely add another at some point.

  • @roaddogg800
    @roaddogg800 4 года назад +1

    I personally might suggest the Samurai.... Similar to the Sumo, but more affordable and comparable to the Turtle.

  • @mrbacchus6127
    @mrbacchus6127 4 года назад +1

    Had both prefer the Sumo.

  • @user-MFTI
    @user-MFTI 4 года назад

    Hey Bruce,
    Huge fan of the channel. I own a great white turtle which i love & have been on the lookout for a black dialed & bezeled dive watch to add to the collection.
    I've looked at many sub homages, from everything from San martin to Steinhart & also the Oris aquis & the Longines hydroconquest.
    I thought I'd settled on one of the latter options mentioned but ive seen this new Sumo which I'm really digging.
    A) i wondered if you knew how the Sumo compares to the oris & longines &
    B) would you recommend getting one if you have the turtle.
    I'm hoping the Sumo might scratch the mm300 sbdx017 itch i have but its totally out my price range currently. I guess if there is a mm300 homage you would consider along with the Sumo, aquis & hydroconquest, I'd appreciate any input.
    Thanks

    • @BruceWilliams
      @BruceWilliams  4 года назад +1

      Great question Terry I am going to film a separate video on this today. Hope to have it all edited and uploaded by weeks end. Stay tuned!

    • @user-MFTI
      @user-MFTI 4 года назад

      @@BruceWilliams oh wow great. I might add that any homage would really be last resort, in fact day by day my opinion of homages lowers & lowers. Thanks man.

  • @davidstewart5721
    @davidstewart5721 4 года назад

    A GREAT! Video, Just two Questions about the 'SUMO In your Video: Does the Bezel turn anti clockwise as well as clockwise, Finally is Sapphire Crystal stamped on the Caseback?? Your reply will be greatly appreciated....Stay Safe...David Stewart

  • @chrisgravel7157
    @chrisgravel7157 4 года назад

    Love the Green Gen 3 Sumo but stamped clasp on a watch at that price? I'd buy green sunburst 62 mas instead

  • @mrmarco2803
    @mrmarco2803 3 года назад

    I have both: the Sumo Coral and the Turtle Sto!!!

  • @levinnnnn
    @levinnnnn 4 года назад

    Hi Bruce. I really love the green finish on the new Sumos but Im afraid they'd look too big on my 6.3-inch wrist. Do you think they're too big for me and if yes, do you know if there are other Seiko watches with a very similar shade of green?

    • @jeffryaf
      @jeffryaf 4 года назад

      Did you end up buying the Sumo? I have the same wrist size as you and am wondering the thing lol

  • @you.8208
    @you.8208 3 года назад

    Buy both!

  • @depellerinluc
    @depellerinluc 4 года назад

    Great vid! Thanks for making it, I've loved the look of the Turtle for a while but am also looking for a Japan made version. Advice on where I could get ahold of a BNIB one?

    • @BruceWilliams
      @BruceWilliams  4 года назад

      I put some links to the JDM versions I buy in the description

  • @RK-zo9vs
    @RK-zo9vs Год назад

    If they had a Dark Manta Sumo with ceramic dial and spahhire crystal I would have gone for the Sumo, but they don't, so I went for the King turtle.

  • @martinharrison4245
    @martinharrison4245 4 года назад

    Could get a sbdc051, for nearly the same price as a new sumo. And it's a better watch in terms of finishing than those 2.

  • @patpatterson6073
    @patpatterson6073 3 года назад

    Cool never heard that becoming a seikopath! I'm right with you

  • @James.008
    @James.008 3 года назад +4

    IM CURIOUS how many seiko's do you need to have , to become a Seikopath ???
    i fear that im perilously close !!!

    • @ismethadzic
      @ismethadzic 3 года назад

      Just because my wife bought me a 6 slots watch box I need 6. I'm at 5 right now and I guess I'll go for blue coral sumo :)

    • @Orca2069
      @Orca2069 Год назад

      Ur words so correct fully bro, fear if collect manny" watch make me psycopath 😅😂😢

  • @teodorpetrov7031
    @teodorpetrov7031 Год назад

    Sumo. The elegant beast

  • @jackiechaniago
    @jackiechaniago 3 года назад

    I like both..but I had green turtle fits on my wrist.

  • @SharpChronofighter
    @SharpChronofighter 4 года назад

    Bruce, I already have the old Sumo. I was thinking to buy also the newest model, but eventually in Blue. Do you have any info on possible future colors for the Sumo...? Thank you!

    • @BruceWilliams
      @BruceWilliams  4 года назад +1

      Yes the upcoming SBDC113 looks to be similar to the blue coral maybe a little more muted. Can't wait for more pics to surface.

    • @SharpChronofighter
      @SharpChronofighter 4 года назад +1

      @@BruceWilliams 🙏😉🖐!

  • @andrewffay
    @andrewffay 4 года назад

    Can you review the nex seiko prospex lx diver? I just got the snr041j1 special edition, and cannot find any reviews of these new lx series spring drive seikos. Thanks

  • @desmondjoyce1059
    @desmondjoyce1059 4 года назад +1

    Buy 2 of em

  • @77898
    @77898 2 года назад

    Love my Jade Sumo, And my King Turtle 🐢, Cheers

  • @johnalessi6004
    @johnalessi6004 3 года назад

    A seiko king samurai or Squale Military or Steinhart Military 39mm.....?????

  • @isaimoreno
    @isaimoreno 4 года назад

    I preffer te Sumo watch. He has a better caliber, the 6R. King Turtle is a beautiful watch, but his caliber in the 4R.

  • @ripperx444
    @ripperx444 4 года назад +1

    Literally just making that choice now. Do I want to pre-order the new sumo black or just get another king turtle in blue!!??

    • @BruceWilliams
      @BruceWilliams  4 года назад

      Go look at the Seiko Passion group on FB or on IG. New pics are dropping on upcoming Seiko models and there is a lovely blue sunray sumo coming sbdc113

    • @ripperx444
      @ripperx444 4 года назад

      Bruce Williams awesome thank you! I sold off so many of my other watched just to collect a ton of seiko models! I’ll take a look!
      What is your though on buying the blacked out turtle from 2018? Seems like Japanese dealers like Japan online store still sell them? New Black series sumo vs 2018 black series turtle? Which do you pick?

    • @BruceWilliams
      @BruceWilliams  4 года назад

      @@ripperx444 I really enjoyed the all black turtle but the prices are really high. The sumo will likely be 1000 or more so the 'value' would be more with the sumo imo

    • @ripperx444
      @ripperx444 4 года назад

      Bruce Williams tough choice agreed. Seiko is approaching prices that are a boarder line too much! Like the Doxa sub 200T looks great also...

    • @BruceWilliams
      @BruceWilliams  4 года назад

      @@ripperx444 spot on, Seiko isnt the value they used to be but I still find them really attractive ha. Sub200 looks good too, low price for a new doxa

  • @late4086
    @late4086 3 года назад +1

    King Turtle FTW

  • @amgame9489
    @amgame9489 2 года назад

    not a fan of the sumo dial font. i do like how the turtle looks very much like an original seiko. sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel, winner. cyclops, still torn on this one.

  • @neilziesing7761
    @neilziesing7761 4 года назад

    Great video. Plus one on the Sumo!

  • @Super1venom
    @Super1venom 4 года назад

    yeH i like the sumo too. id go for turtle anyday if they had 20mm lug width tho

  • @invisibleliman
    @invisibleliman 4 года назад

    In the end, which is better?

  • @Teachering
    @Teachering 4 года назад

    Though I have not seen the King Turtle up close I am aware that its movement is the caliber 4R36. My experience tells me that it's not a very accurate movement. I avoid it. The Sumo, on the other hand, uses the 6R15. It is the better movement. I recommend the Seiko Sumo for its looks, comfort, and accuracy over the Turtle.

    • @Ge0rGi.
      @Ge0rGi. 4 года назад +2

      4R36 is more accurate than 6r15 ; I have 2 watches with 4r36 and 3 with 6r15. I also had to send my brand new Seiko moster(6r15) to service because it use to stop working out of nowhere. Google it if you don't believe me. Write seiko 6r15 movement problems and it will take you to Seiko forums.

    • @cy4624
      @cy4624 3 года назад

      Luck of the draw..i have many 4r36 as well as 6R15 that run dead on to 2 SD.
      My sarb has ran 0-1 for 5 years on/off the wrist.

  • @sblantipodi
    @sblantipodi 4 года назад

    PS: congrats Bruce and thanks for your work here. I really like your work on this channel. Thanks

  • @Star_Sn1per
    @Star_Sn1per 4 года назад +1

    That king turtle all the way

  • @tedrobles3306
    @tedrobles3306 2 года назад

    my wrist is under 7 ( near 7 inches ). which is better for me?

  • @donisiciliano
    @donisiciliano 4 года назад

    I don't get why don't they put saphir glass in those, becouse Orient puts it Kamasu which is 250 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ 2 or 3 times cheaper.

    • @cy4624
      @cy4624 3 года назад

      The main reason is its more shatter resistant vs sapphire but since 99% are desk divers and life doesn't depend on it, people want sapphire...not a deal breaker though, I only managed to scratch 1 out of 27 seikos(some are sapphire) which keep growing and growing..

  • @stevenuk
    @stevenuk 4 года назад

    for me, if the Turtle had 20mm lugs, would be perfect... and bracelet that tapers to 18mm.

  • @Tom_H327
    @Tom_H327 Год назад

    I wish I could get that Sumo bezel insert for my Turtle. 😂

  • @niconava9643
    @niconava9643 2 года назад

    I like the turtle

  • @helmiabdullah2271
    @helmiabdullah2271 4 года назад +1

    Sumo win

  • @gravelwildnorthtexas3801
    @gravelwildnorthtexas3801 3 года назад

    can you get a rubber band for the Sumo?

    • @christiantorsell8119
      @christiantorsell8119 3 года назад

      I'm not sure if Seiko sells the sumo on rubber, but Crafter Blue sells a strap fitted specifically for it :)

  • @danielguzmansigh
    @danielguzmansigh 4 года назад

    Hi, how do you get the turtle with the days of the week in Japanese? Is that a mod ?

    • @BruceWilliams
      @BruceWilliams  4 года назад

      No I buy the Japanese market versions

  • @smurf2818
    @smurf2818 2 года назад

    both