DIY Make professional PCB at home

[@techtalks_India]

Dude its great to watch someone to do this with absolute accuracy...you just nailed it...definitely #thumbs up. Great job n keep doing ur great work.

[@EslamsLab]

somesh thank you very much :)

[@abdulnabi4268]

Thanks

[@user-uv4xe3cq2y]

...but why are you using that annoying music???

[@1337Shockwav3]

Professionally underetched, bare minimum PCB. I usually solder stuff that umcomplex on perfboard with jumper wores.

[@EslamsLab]

Man I'm not an engineer, but it needs some passion

[@rjmunt]

Heat the pad and the wire more before adding solder. Some of your joints are 'cold'

[@EslamsLab]

+Raymus Munt thankx for yor advice I'll try it

[@gkdresden]

I prefer the cold chemical toner transfer method by use of nail polish remover. Furthermore I don't leave a lot of copper area on the PCB surface. Often it forms unwanted capacitance. For etching I use a mixture of H2O2 (30%), HCl (30%) and water. For 1 Liter I fill 0.5 Liters of water and give 0.25 Liters of HCl and finally 0.25 Liters of H2O2. The etching process lasts for 2 to 4 minutes without underetching. Before etching I make sure that no rests of paper are left on the copper surface. After etching and washing with clear water by use of steal whool and I cover the copper surface with a solderable layer of colofonium in ethanol. So you need no additional flux for soldering.

[@rickwest2818]

I used to do this a lot back in HS (early 1980's). At that time, you could buy a bottle of liquid FeCl3 from Radio Shack. It said right on the bottle to dispose of the used fluid by flushing it down the toilet. Not kidding. Anyway, I haven't made a PCB in years because there are professional board houses that will do it cheap. Also, these days it's rare for me to design a board with less than 4 layers. Doing even 2 layers with the technique shown here is a royal pain.

[@EslamsLab]

+Rick West for me and you it seems fine to access companies that offer professional pcb's but there are many people around the world needs to make it by themselves
Also if you need it immediately you have to make it yourself
But anyway you are right
You said 1980's
Man you are electronics master now :)
Will be glad if you have time to tell me more
Thank you

[@raulrrojas]

Rick West still available the bottle in any electronic parts shop

[@rickwest2818]

Eslam's Lab boards I design today are usually far too complex for techniques like this. Back around 1986, I did build a parametric equalizer for my car stereo with these techniques. I got the design and layout from a magazine.
Actually, I just remembered using the rub-ons for that project. Didn't transfer toner as shown here.

[@rickwest2818]

Raul Rojas do they still say to flush the used fluid down the toilet? 😯

[@ko-Daegu]

Rick West
Nobody cares what you used to do ...

[@Jarni1979]

1 - make a video to tech how to produce PCB
2 - make a wrong PCB
priceless

[@millanferende6723]

We learn from mistakes! Now I know what to look out for.

[@ignacios3992]

Me parece que es un regulador de tensión en corriente alterna. Muy buena pero también podrías estañar las pistas en caso de que vayas a manejar más de 100W

[@thecongo8505]

Great job 👏

[@agustinrovero859]

You should use the reverse paper of contact films, works great and does not break

[@007wingzero]

I would recommend to put it in liquid tin. Othereise the copper will oxydide over time.

[@teenfitness3759]

Which ink do u use in the lazer printer.

[@edgarestrada3701]

Thank you so much for your time and effort to show us how this is done! great video!

[@ALEFILES]

Nice video! But you may advice FIRST that this method doesn't work with INKJET printers, ONLY works with LASER printers...I have tried to make PCB with my inkjet printer but have no results...And with Laser printers and just an iron, I had success!

[@icywiener5421]

Isn't it obvious that laser toner is the clue?

[@ALEFILES]

Icy Wiener No, isn't obvious...

[@przemekkobel4874]

Acetone (like in nail-varnish remover) seems a better solution for toner transfer than heat. And instead a messy FeCl3 you can use cheap B327 etchant, which is transparent and gently turns blue as gets used up (and you don't need to stir it up constantly, if you have a spare fish tank air pump).

[@VANEPS7]

The process requires toner-not ink.

[@AntonyCartwright]

Hey! Really great video! I really enjoyed it! I'm also going to do it using your method! Just something I noticed though, you know at the end when you were soldering, there was some minor problem; I think you didn't heat the pad and used too much solder. Remember that the capilary effect won't happen on single layer boards. Brilliant video though! Thanks for making it! :-D

[@EslamsLab]

Thank you antony for your encouragement
Actually this is always happen when i make pcbs, i think because the acid leaking under toner this make the board unable to accept soldering , right now I'm working on another pcb making video
I will reveal some chemistry used on making pcbs and i will talk about tinning that make is easier to accept soldering
Thanks again :)

[@AntonyCartwright]

Brilliant, I'll subscribe to you then. If the problem is the toner, you can simply scrub the PCB with flux, it will clean it for you. :-)

[@EslamsLab]

Hey antony the video i mentioned is released

[@RUSH3112]

What is the name of the chemical that you use it to watch

[@cpksuresh8765]

I am some one looking for this video and I wasn't able to understand others vidio of this project thanks...

[@EslamsLab]

Thank you
I'm happy because it was useful for you
If you need any help contact me :)

[@Tracks777]

Nice video! Keep it up!

[@josedominguez2021]

Professional PCB with one hand!!!

[@viswanathancr2801]

good video

[@doro4414]

Instead of photopaper use the vax paper peeled of a sticker. Much easier with great results and no need for laminator, any iron will do ;)

[@laishramguneshwor3137]

What is the drill bit size you are using.. because small drill bit are difficult to find in market

[@EslamsLab]

Carbide drill bit 0.6mm

[@OctaRudin]

Hello @Eslam's Lab, thanks for sharing with us. The knowledge is very useful. Anyway I have some questions to ask.
1. At 2.18 , did u use general laminator or special laminator for pcb ?
2. How much eye drops of H2O2 (Hydrogen Peroxide) to make FeCl2 working properly ?
3. What did you do with the solvent after use ? Throw it away to the sewer directly or else ?
Once again, thank you.

[@EslamsLab]

I'm using modified paper laminator
Just hacked it to fit the pcbs
Also hacked the temperature set point

[@EslamsLab]

H2o2 is not really necessary i use it to accelerate the process but this days I'm not using it anymore
You can deactivate the solvent using some (koh) potassium hydroxide
That makes it not corrosive anymore

[@OctaRudin]

@@EslamsLab That is awesome! will you make the videos ? like how to modify the paper laminator to a pcb laminator and deactivating the FeCl by using KOH. It will be a great video, I think.

[@EslamsLab]

@@OctaRudin take a look at the description and you will find detailed instructions to modify paper laminator to pcb laminator

[@sathishkumar5560]

Please share the application link for schematics

[@techjedi2878]

Just curious as a newbie to this, but why leave all that copper in gap areas? Wouldn't it be better to clean away all that area not part of your circuit?

[@EslamsLab]

No it's connected to the gnd
And it reduces the etching time too much

[@104net]

Nice, but try to wash out your glossy paper with cold water, don't sink it in warm water coz ink is sensitive on heat

[@kingmarri9275]

can u plzz tell me the software by which u make pcb schematic

[@Berghiker]

Can you feed a 1.6mm thick PCB through the laminator? Laminator max thickness 0.5mm.

[@EslamsLab]

The laminator is modified see description

[@rondlh20]

You don't need the hydrogen peroxide, it says "don't add it once" at 5:00, that should say "Don't at it all at once". Even better, just don't use it.

[@EslamsLab]

+Ron DLH i used to mix hydrogen peroxide it makes the whole process faster

[@rondlh20]

I understand, but it also makes it a lot more dangerous. Heating up the water a bit will also accelerate the process, keeping the liquid in motion also helps.

[@EslamsLab]

+Ron DLH yes thanks for sharing this knowledge :)
I will add it in description

[@bjl1000]

Eslam's Lab I use distilled vinegar and hydrogen peroxide. It takes longer but is much safer and the used etchant will kill weeds. Also your video was good but making a pcb just to connect four components is a waste of time . Just solder them all together and encapsulate in epoxy cube. Waterproof and cheap.

[@EslamsLab]

+Frenchie thank you so much
I always wanted to try vinegar thanks for advice
This video made to sho the etching process but the pcb itself was useless
Thanx a lot

[@minhajansari1252]

What is a use is of this pcb

[@shouraikamikawa4864]

what's the pcb software name in the video?

[@EslamsLab]

Diptrace

[@Techbymas]

Bake sub Tu theek hai bro , but UV masking ni ki , Are you from Pakistan ?

[@EslamsLab]

no

[@thepuffunderscore]

Congratulations. You made a reverse PCB

[@choco1tv347]

Please where can I get ferric chloride to buy ..chemical shop or electronic shop

[@EslamsLab]

Both

[@vitsirucka6385]

I think Its better to use a mix of acetone And alkohol to transfer the toner. You then dont need to soak it in water, you just peel it off like a sticker and its great quality. I have made a pcb with 0.5 mm traces. Try it!

[@EslamsLab]

Seems very useful idea i will try that,
But right now I'm always making 0.2 traces
And I'm using another different methods you can check it out on my channel

[@digitaldata-surveying]

Nice work

[@abenwinUT]

Thanks for this video. Very interesting. Question: How do you set the size of the PCB as it is being printed out? When I print, it fills a letter size page. Need to make it smaller. Thanks

[@EslamsLab]

+abenwinUT Wee hi
In diptrace from print preview i use it 100% scale
So you can scale it to 98 or less
And before transfer
Bring your components and check the size on the paper
If you have any question don't hesitate to ask :)

[@b.u.shankarboopathy6593]

Super.👌👌

[@BOGDANSAR]

I like the Casio watch from the video, i have the same model to :)

[@EslamsLab]

I still wearing it till now , it's not embarrassing me :)

[@shantotorofder3916]

hey what will be the quality of the print... plz do I have to print on standard or high quality......plz tell me

[@EslamsLab]

Of course high quality
Eco off
If you have gloss mode turn it on

[@shantotorofder3916]

@@EslamsLab okk so I have to do quality high eco off if gloss mode have so turn it on..then print it on glossy paper......okk thank you...

[@EslamsLab]

Anytime 😊

[@suzyfuc2862]

Good

[@kedarprabhudessai]

Nice video. But do proper tinning of your soldering iron tip

[@EslamsLab]

Thank you
I just realised that the pcb material really bad because i solder any other kind better

[@georgedicu7397]

cute, how about double sided pcb?

[@paulbennett6685]

Can you please tell me what software you use for the circuit design thanks paul

[@EslamsLab]

+Paul Bennett it's diptrace a very easy software you can learn within a few hours

[@path9505]

what if it can print in fiber glass

[@ruturajdesai1831]

haha. sorry I already downloaded before receiving ur message. thank u soo much

[@alangreyson2556]

How much do i need feric cloride in chemical version?

[@EslamsLab]

Liquid fecl3 you need to cover your pcb

[@ekasatriabahari2264]

using inkjet or laserjet?

[@EslamsLab]

Laser

[@TechMaxedYT]

what software did you use? Thanks

[@EslamsLab]

Diptrace

[@TechMaxedYT]

@@EslamsLab Thanks

[@manojkumar-gq3qd]

Hole making machine where to buy? and price please

[@adamjensen6376]

hey there I have a question here I have a bluetooth board and I want to create one myself but without the usb connector and just use ribbon cable or something how much would you charge a person for that

[@EslamsLab]

I hope if i can understand your question to give you the right answer

[@joelafferty3336]

absolutely crap music!! and totally unnecessary

[@EslamsLab]

+Joe Lafferty yes you are right i felt regret after video uploaded

[@hopefuldave]

I quite liked it...

[@schirmcharmemelone]

i down voted just because of the horrendous music

[@fluent_styles6720]

I liked the music

[@NotNazuh]

@@fluent_styles6720 yeah he said it was crap because he was talking about his life

[@GasNBullets]

Why not buy liquid ferric chloride?

[@imjoy6322]

whic software you use

[@user-qd8nx1lc3z]

Sir,
How to make street lights 'PCB' ...???
Please tell me...

[@allampallimanoharasairam4468]

Awesome bro it's really amazing please tell me some free pcb designing software's bro I'll try this at my home

[@EslamsLab]

You can try the limited version of diptrace it supports 300 pins

[@gapadad2]

"Making printed circuit boards using only what you have at home" and a 20 WATT LASER............

[@skyjoe55]

You don't just have one of those lying around?

[@tonyhewett3729]

Hydrogen peroxide is used to make Ferric Chloride, why do you need to add more?

[@EslamsLab]

It accelerate the process

[@lhenlindo3328]

What is the purpose of hydrogen peroxide?

[@EslamsLab]

Accelerating the reaction

[@shinningraj]

at 00:39 which software u used for printing?

[@noviy_polsovatel]

Professional PCB :) LOL :)))

[@africantwin173]

is there a way to convert a smd layout to tht when having the original files.

[@EslamsLab]

+African Twin yes
Unroute everything first
Then right click on every component and replace with through hole
Then route
Ps : dont forget to change component side

[@cpksuresh8765]

Could u plzzz give me the site to buy gloosy paper and to download the software to make circuit design plzzzz

[@EslamsLab]

Here it is
m.aliexpress.com/item/1848289788.html?pid=808_0000_0201&spm=a2g0n.search-amp.list.1848289788&
But you can use magazine paper instead of this blank papers it will give you awesome results

[@stryderpreside]

Impressive. Not very cost effective, but impressive

[@EslamsLab]

Thank you
Please check out the other pcb video on my channel
There is better version of this

[@qumraphotography6895]

whats the brand of laminator your using plz

[@EslamsLab]

Brand doesn't matter. .. because you need to modify it to fit the pcb

[@dyunabadier8386]

Eslam's Lab Hello. Thank you for the tutorial.
Noob question. I would like to ask, why did you need to laminate it? Is it safe to laminate that along with the paper? I am worried that it will damage the machine.
Thank you!

[@EslamsLab]

The machine is modified to fit the the pcb thickness
And the thermostat is also changed to give proper temperature for the pcb
It's been working for years and still good :)

[@lloyd778]

Love it! Keep it coming!

[@EslamsLab]

This was my first pcb video you can check out the last video it's about making pcb's with chemicals and different methods
Also there are some alternatives of the chemicals

[@laser31415]

I've never got boards to snap clean. I finally switched to a band saw.

[@EslamsLab]

You need to scratch the both sides then snap it will give you nice cut

[@billnopoles1934]

I was using a metal-cutting scissor (already 50 years ago), very clean cut.

[@EslamsLab]

Wow

[@cda32]

More like how not to make professional PCB's.

[@NotNazuh]

your name sounds like you had diabetes cause you waste you life eating McDonald's while abusing people online

[@canesvenatici9588]

@@NotNazuh have you ever seen real professional pcbs? That piece of shit is definitely not professional as the video maker claims on the title.

[@AlbertInSanAntonio]

@@canesvenatici9588 yeah cuz it looks like he's at an Intel lab

[@canesvenatici9588]

@@AlbertInSanAntonio There is nothing wrong making homemade pcb with acceptable quality for a hobbyist use in a not so complicated projects. But, claiming it as a professional one in the title is very misleading almost as he was trying to make it for just the sake of a click bait.

[@adomijan1606]

If you are using hydrogen peroxide why dont you do it with HCl and not FeCl3. With HCl you have transparent solutio so you can se the etching process.

[@EslamsLab]

Actually I'm not chemicals expert and when i learned this i wasn't have enough knowledge
But right now I'm using ammonium persulfate it gives clear solution and only etch the copper not other metals

[@inventor7655]

what's name of the program do you use for design this PCB

[@EslamsLab]

Diptrace

[@SteelyGlow]

Instead of Ferrum Chloride use Hydrogen Peroxyde + salt + lemon acid with hot water. It takes a little more time but it's way safer and more affordable.

[@EslamsLab]

Wow i should try this looks really safer

[@SteelyGlow]

Water is needed only when hydrogen peroxyde is more than 5%.
Usually I use 100 ml of H2O2 (3%), 6 teaspoons of lemon acid and 3-5 teaspoons of salt.

[@EslamsLab]

i'm using 100% hydrogen peroxide it's very dangerous

[@flomojo2u]

I was wondering why your toner looked so nice and even, but I guess if you’re using a $2,100USD printer (Kyocera FS-2020D) you are likely to get better results than a $100 laser. Not really an option for most people, and for that amount of money you could get a reasonably nice desktop CNC system that will mill the traces and allow you to drill holes with excellent precision!

[@EslamsLab]

+flomojo2u actually i got this printer for only what equal 75$ here in Egypt it's used printer comes from Germany i think :)

[@lylerodericks]

Amazing video, love the music

[@phitrow]

my father talked about such a product: paint and discard.

[@andygamer1201]

Which software are you using in this video

[@EslamsLab]

+GAMING STUDIO diptrace

[@cradlelxlrgaming5133]

kon sa sofwear ha lay out ke liye

[@mesharyhd7646]

Yes casio 😎

[@masroorahmad4760]

Whos casio

[@mesharyhd7646]

@@masroorahmad4760 the video maker is timing with casio at 6:43

[@masroorahmad4760]

Thanks@@mesharyhd7646

[@zenithedianel6250]

why dont you get off of those useless copper in the circuit commonly it will just become one of the reason for short circuit. we're advice to get rid of those unnecessary parts which are not use for connections

[@EslamsLab]

because it reduces the etching time

[@ahmedalgazale2665]

السلام عليكم
اخي العزيز لوسمحت اريد المركبات المستخدمة
شكرا

[@navidulakshan8811]

What acid you put

[@EslamsLab]

Fecl3 it was written in the video

[@navidulakshan8811]

@@EslamsLab thanks

[@GoodOldGamers]

Dude great video but dang way too many ads! At most on a 10 min video 2 or 3..... You have like 10.

[@EslamsLab]

you know videos with highest revenue is longer ones

[@dhedarkhcustard]

Get RUclips Red. Then you get no ads!

[@zenithedianel6250]

money talks

[@johnthomas5383]

use ad blocker

[@AnujKumar-ym4ri]

Sir how to make the layout on dip trace pls make the video

[@EslamsLab]

I would like to make it for sure but there is tutorials from official diptrace makers if it not clear tell me i will start a series "how to make pcb from zero with diptrace "

[@chikku168]

Can I use butter paper for printing for this
If not What paper is easy to get

[@EslamsLab]

Yes it works also but it shifting too much

[@chikku168]

Eslam's Lab
Thanks for your fast rply
Which paper is better in your opinion

[@EslamsLab]

Bibin augustin 90gm glossy paper works great
And also magazine papers

[@chikku168]

Eslam's Lab
I tried the glossy paper and it works great
I tried the thick and the thin type
Thin types are best
And after heating it placing the board and paper in hot water was efficient

[@EslamsLab]

Congratulations
You can also print silk screen by the same method but after etching the copper first

[@ruturajdesai1831]

which software u have used?? send me link please

[@mumblic]

0:22 !!!

[@Iankmuin]

Nice

[@aklapotherpotherpothikrebh603]

I want tiny pcb for rc cars

[@ibraheemmohey8739]

This circuit for AC Motor speed controling, isn't it?

[@EslamsLab]

Yes and dimmer also

[@Galova]

why hydrogen peroxide? what is it for?

[@EslamsLab]

It speed up the etching process

[@p0intblank597]

Why do we add H2O2 (Hydrogen peroxide )

[@EslamsLab]

It's used as accelerator

[@alphakevin2958]

i would first wash it with metal scrub then cut it out / better to handle

[@MisterWillX]

Free. RUclips. Music.

[@StarzzDrak]

can i use toaster instead of iron ?

[@EslamsLab]

Sure if you can clamp your pcb between 2 pieces of flat metal sheetand don't exceed 170 Celsius for 5 minutes

[@StarzzDrak]

@@EslamsLab ok thanks

[@vikkyjha3518]

can we use acid normal acid for eaching

[@EslamsLab]

I was reading most of acids could work but slower than dangerous acids

[@vikkyjha3518]

+Eslam's Lab OK thanx

[@vikkyjha3518]

+Eslam's Lab sir one more question please - can I use toilet cleaning ACID

[@ilovemyfamilyandnation.3954]

Pcb ka diagram kaha se down load kare pls bataeye

[@abdelazeezmabrouk]

اجيب منين الحمض المستخدم ؟

[@EslamsLab]

abdelazeez mabrouk لو من القاهرة انزل باب الشعرية عند بتوع الكيماويات و اطلب كلوريد الحديد حجر بنى
و اشترى معاه اوكسجين مركز
مس هيكلفك كتير و هيعيش معاك سنين بس احذر من الحاجات دى علشان ضارة جدا

[@sakibian01]

What kind of paper do u use ?

[@EslamsLab]

+sakibian here 90 gm glossy or magazines

[@sakibian01]

Eslam's Lab can i print it from normal printer where we print AA paper?

[@EslamsLab]

+sakibian here no it will not work try to find old magazine or buy cheap one if you can't find glossy paper

[@user-lf2uq5pf8w]

السلام عليكم اخي لو سمحت انا كنت عايز اعرف ازاي اخلي الpcp اللوان

[@EslamsLab]

+الدعوة الي الله الطريقة الصح و المكلفة عن طريق طباعة السلك سكرين و دى صعبه شويه بالنسبة انهة تتعمل فى البيت و مكلفة
فى حاجه اسمها دراى فيلم هو مخصص فى الاصل لطباعة التراكات بس انا استخدمته عادى لعزل اللوحة و بيدى لون موف فقط و بينشف تحت ضوء الشمس

[@PhungPhan1111]

Rubbing the paper or using transfer paper is better.

[@cpksuresh8765]

Plzzz give the info to download Dip tracer

[@EslamsLab]

Search for novarm website you will find download diptrace trial version

[@nathanturunen806]

Photosensitive resist rules =)

[@EslamsLab]

Sure photo resist rules but if you making toner transfer with laminator you will not need it

[@jwuethrich8385]

Professional is a lie. It's nice work.. Don't get me wrong... But the uv method is the only one you can really call professional. Industry doesn't use toner transfer they use riston uv photo resist and either a film/glass mask or dlp for pattern. I built a cupric bubble tank and vacuum press exposure box at home with out following a tutorial other than how to mix cupric from pool acid copper scraps and peroxide. Chem isn't my strongest subject and I didnt want to die so I did my homework and it turned out great. vacuum pull down 365nm led box.. With low iron Glass on the vac panel so it passes more uv than normal glass or plexi. etch tank I made up on the fly. Vacuum pump from ebay for 10bucks, 30 bucks at digikey for led and pets store for air pump. I had a stack of plexi and used acetone and later tried paint thinner for welding. Both work. Bench power supply or dc to DC units are required

[@EZELab]

Nice job (Y)

[@EslamsLab]

+EZE Lab thanks :) hope you enjoyed

[@EZELab]

I did