Has The Tuono Abdicated The Throne? | 2020 Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 RR
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2020
- With two more OEMs adding bikes to the Super Naked group this year and no major updates to the Tuono lately, the question becomes is the Tuono still king of the Super Nakeds?
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"I gotta keep the speed down a little bit guys"
5 seconds later: "BRAAAP BRAAAP BRAAAP BRAAAAAAP"
"It can pass anything... except a gas station..." LOL! I love the Tuono, it's an extraordinary naked for sure. Fun review. Laughing and joy = priceless.
I have a 2020 in grey color and yeah, she's a beast sallowing fuel😂😂 otherwise I'm love with her. Totally agree with your opinion.
I love the tuono too especially the factory BUT! at 255kmh a sfv4 will shoot by with 300+
Great review, I was laughing along with you! I have the 2019 Tuono Factory and absolutely love it, the sound is intoxicating!
As always great review, the way you revved often throughout the ride review it's like a kid got his new bike and that happiness, it did put a smile on my face.
That sound and engine are incredible
Thanks Scott, I haven't had the chance to test ride this bike, but thanks to you I already know it wouldn't suit my needs no matter how much I love the sound of the glorious V4. I can only have one bike and I do a lot of city riding and your review clearly shows its limitations. Cheers mate!
Great video Scott, you have an infectious laugh as it made me laugh every time you blipped the quick shifter. Awesome machine and sounds great.
Still my favourite video. Never been so happy about my bike till this review. Thanks for the video and yes I’m subscribed since 2019.
I can see how happy you are on this bike.. great review..
Awesome video Scott,
I want to have the fun you had on that beast!
Great review Scott. Think you.
I have a 2017 and have loved every minute, at about 15k miles now. I may get a second bike for those longer rides but don't think I'll ever not want a Tuono in my stable.
Yep I have 2008 ZX-14 turbocharged fully done, it's my touring missle. I just need something for city it's either Tuono vs 1290 R. The wheelie factor with the Super Duke R is so intoxicating.
Hey I know this is an old comment but what's the status on your tuono now, and your opinion, 2 years later? I bought a 2020 tuono factory, have 6k miles on it and so far so good, but was wondering if you still have it, how many miles does it have, and what problems it gave you if any. Hearing it's lasted 15k miles is good news to me because I have no idea what to expect from it in the years
Great review Scott. Looked like you had a blast! 👍
I did!
I don’t understand how people get such bad fuel consumption on them. I have a 17 factory and I can get 5.5L / 100 kms no problem. Even going hard on the throttle. I’ll get 200 kms until I hit the reserve light no prob. have even made it to 240kms before gas light.
Great review.
Doing 50 in first and 100 in second is my guess....
I have 19 Factory and get about same gas mileage as you , however I only ride in country roads out of city limits so except while passing through small villages on the way with few lights the bike is always moving 99% of the times , I think that might be the key difference on getting good mileage
You did well not getting flamed with that comment.
The riding God's usually smite you down in their response like 'Man I get 70 miles to a tank, need new boots every 1000 miles'.
Just pure BS.
Naturally I always ride over 9k revs, of course 🙄
Loved your explanation on the rear brake and the ABS :) I felt that on my RT yesterday when a pedestrian crossed in front of me on a road. It was no emergency, as usually a short-break but I dual-braked and I could feel so well the rear break almost... there! :D
My RT a 2016 i think the rear is mushy and numb.. with the linked brake system the rear break really isn't needed except for low speed work... that being said.. hard emergency braking the system using the front brake as hard as possible works amazing...
Hahahah thank you brother for doing this review. :)))))) keep up the good work and don’t stop posting reviews, always a fan watching your content.
Hi Scott. I traded my 2018 factory Tuono for a 2019 with the electronic suspension. I have to say it is a game changer. I owned a BMW S1000R with electronic suspension and was never quite sure of it when pushing on. The Tuono system is different gravy. Just the best out there. If you can stretch to it, the 2019 Tuono smacks them all including the new Streetfighter. In your words it plays real hard.
Hi bob I have a 2019 Bmw s1000r sport & have an interest in aprilia v4 tuono 1100 factory , how are you getting in with the aprilia , we have just got 1 official aprilia dealer here in Ireland that opened a few months ago , they are priced at € 21,495 ... expensive bike , I’d like to know are they reliable etc & better than the Bmw ? I’m thinking I would like the character from the v4 more
Nice bike and nice review, very interested. The sound of the Tuono is amazing.
New to this channel but you are already one of the few reviewers I can see who would manage to "tame" the VMAX 1700 (the bikes in your "too nice" category are fearsome for most. Great stuff here, thank you. By the by, with all the bikes I have owned or ridden, the VMAX 1700 remains the most brutal!
100% Agree!
I Love my Tuono Factory 202 😍😍😍
Nice review NTP! I have this exact bike in that colour in my garage and have been falling in love with the thing since I bought it in November last year. I came off an MT10 onto this and largely agree with your comparisons/comments, although I would say that comfort is subjective and for me, the more forward (more tucked) natural position that you assume on the Tuono makes for a more comfortable ride with less wind blast (yes the mini screen helps too) and less weight through the spine over long journeys. Also, I've found the Tuono to consume a little less fuel (although not by much) than the MT, even though it inspires me to press on much more than the Yamaha did. A lot of people find similarity between the Aprilia V4 and Yam crossplane soundtrack, but for me at least in the real world, the Aprilia noise is simply unrivalled - the Italians hit the name on the nose - 'Thunder'. For anyone interested in these types of bike, you should make sure that you at least ride the Tuono before making judgement, there are no bad bikes in the category but the Tuono feels like something special every time you ride. Also, there was mention in this review of the jerky low down fuel mapping, counter-intuitively I've found that the RACE engine map smooths a lot of that effect out as it has the lowest engine braking. Awesome bike, I actually like the little protests you get at very low town speeds, reminding you that you're riding 95% of a superbike with flat bars :-)
I will be testing the SFV4S, Tuono and SDR 3 when looking for a replacement for my ‘17 S1000R. My track instructor has a ‘17 Tuono, and we talked and he still wonders if he should have bought the S1000R instead. I have not ridden the current batch but rode all bar the SF (obviously) in ‘17, and they were all quite different but at the time the ‘17 S1000R was for me. Will be very interested to see how the Beast 3 is an improvement on the SDR I rode, and if there is any change to the Tuono. I expect it will come down to the SFV4S (I have ridden the PV4S) and expect I will “land” on one of the Italian V4 bikes, because I have improved my skill set and the sound...SFV4S does have an edge on looks...nice time to have choices
Spot on. Loved the test ride on the Tuono, and wanted it badly, but slow speed performance and my need for commuting put me off. I felt the same about the switchgear too. Sniff sniff.
Until now the best of the best naked bike Aprilia Tuono V4 Factory.👍👍👍
if this reviewer ever gets to test the Tuono Factory, he should put a thumb on his 360° cam swivel... then he can give three thumbs up! ;) (2016 Factory model here, with the Akra EVO2 full titanium line and an RSV4 carbon end-can; after 4 years still 175rwhp on the dyno)
You need to review the Ducati street fighter. Yet another great review,tnx.
I really like your videos. You can really feel the joy of riding.
In which region do you drive in your videos?
Being a 2019 Tuono owner myself, I can tell you I love it a lot! Maybe the Ducati Streetfighter V4 has more power etc, but it's also a lot more expensive. Almost a new class on itself, Hyper Naked perhaps?
After riding both, I still prefer the engine of the Tuono. The Aprilia has a much more usable power band and the chassis is unbeatable. The Ducati's engine is super smooth but you have to bring the RPM to 10,000 before you start getting all its power. In my opinion, the Street Fighter handles better and looks much sexier. Both great bikes but the Tuono may still hold the crown of hypernaked's.
I do love the V4 sound but the triples sound great too, IMO
such a great review. Btw couldn't stop smiling hearing u laughing
Thank you. Of all the super nakeds, this made me laugh the most...hmm...maybe I should get one 🤔👍
In the city cruising at 40-50km you gota leave it in first or second grear for the V4 to remain smooth. One thing i love about the V4 in the city is that you can release the gas and let it slow down and this motor is so strong it wont got lower than excatly 16km/h with no gas imput,
The Tuono is an awesome motorcycle and probably the best bike in its class. Although the the servicing prices are sky high, the wait time for parts is up to 4 months in Australia. The QC with Italian motorcycles is just not as robust as a Japanese bike. Therefore parts fail frequently whether it's pitted cam shafts or water leaking into dash. Despite of all the flaws it's an amazing feeling to ride one of these. My suggestion is Buy a new one and sell it after 3 years. Like my man Ryan F9 from fortnine said "Buying a used Race Machine is like buying Grenade with its pin pulled out"
Very interested in your Ducati Streetfighter V4 S test... When you do that pay attention to the throttle and mapping. As from 2016 I found the Ducatis very snitchy/twitchy especially in the lower rpm. Also check wether this bike will blip in the low rpm. The 2016 XDiavel switched the rear cylinder off below 3000 rpm while down shifting and had a irritating delay when one wanted to blip between 3 / 2 / 1.... Please check this for us. I already hear the V4 switches off some cylinders in traffic! Will be interesting what you will find riding it in normal town traffic. Regards.
The livery in red black white and green looks as good.
Cool video. Thx
What is that Bazooka on the right side?
Waiting with great anticipation on the 2021 version. My 2019 super duke r is now for sale.
Test ride the 2020 1290 R, just beautiful as fun factor goes.
I’m also waiting to see what updates the ‘21 Tuono gets!
Awesome review Scott. Are you planning to review equipments like your helmets and jackets etc?
No, not really, haven't even thought about it yet. I don't think that they will get many views for the amount of effort that I'd have to put into them.
Thanks for watching, Ride safe,
Scott
I think the problem for Aprilia is to find a replacement for this bike when time come. The v4 Tuono has been the king since 2010 and i have never seen a bike won more tests/reviews than this. The V2/60 Rotax'es was also on top many times, especially the Gen2.
Good video and bike, but which manufacturer's riding pants are you wearing? I want to buy similar🤔 I just bought an aprilia shiver 900 2018 is an awesome bike and those sounds whit acrapovic❤️ greetings 🇫🇮
Those are the Trilobite Agnox jeans. Love'em.
Greetings from Germany!
Still my dream bike. Waiting for the 2020 Misano edition or possibly the next generation. Both are overdue.
What about the Ducati Streetfighter V4s with 208 HP?
Tuono still top dog. Ducati V4 is too peaky(test drove it - very disappointing), you've got to rev the shit out of it to find the power and the Z h2 is too heavy to be classed as a true super-naked but the power is on tap from 3k onwards and is a blast to ride( test drove and bought it there and then). But i won't be chucking away the keys to my Tuono any time soon. It's light and got bags of grunt low down. Still the daddy.
Ive ordered a 2020 Factory with an akra slip on and the race map that it comes with. I was thinking about the Ducati streetfighter V4 but it cost almost 3k more and with a exhaust it will be 8k more (akra pipe for maintain the warranty) for the standard version. The Tuono spec vise is more like the streetfighter V4s with the electronic öhlins suspension and then we are talking 10k more. And even for 10k less the Touno still is the king in recent test as in the one from Mcn.
Like to have both Aprilia and SDR they are both by far best street bikes.
I WANT ONE!!!!🤩
Thanks.
When I was shopping for my naked bike I looked at this the KTM, and the BMW. I’m a taller rider. The Aprillia bar placement was good, but the pegs were tight. The BMW had a weird long each to the bars. In the end I went with the KTM as the only one that physically fit me. It’s an all day long ride that doesn’t beat you up over the riding position.
Can I ask how tall you are ?
@@gryphongryph 6'1". 185cm
How does that 360 degree work...man thats cool.
looks like a wide-angle cam at the end of a boom, attached to his backpack...
Every time I feel like trading in my Tuono I just watch this video and I’m content again 😊 no need.
Yea, one day when I can afford a second bike, it will be a Tuono!
take care,
Scott
@@NothingToProve Thanks Scott it’s nice to see a reply from a legend like you keep the videos coming I’ll be sure to follow you
According to the dyno that 44teeth use ,compared to the SFighter V4s, the Tuono makes MORE horsepower AND torque up to 9500 rpm. And the torque and power curves are a straight line. Having not ridden a V4S I can't speak to the rideability, but based on the dyno, the Tuono wins. The amount of time my Tuono has been above 10,000 rpm would be measured in minutes, while below10,000 would be many many hours. The V4s can rev it's nuts off and that's how it manages the crazy hp number, but in real life, it won't matter. Even IF the V4s is a slightly superior bike, once you factor in the price difference, it's a no-brainer. The tuono sounds better, is $9k cheaper, and makes more power and torque where you use it most. Also cruise control.
whats the best exhaust for this beautiful sounding machine?
Now that's a "can of worms" that I'd never open. There are sooooooo many choices.
Any! You could put a can of beans on as an end can and it would still sound amazing 🤤 best sounding bike full stop.
Need that 660 to come out!
I'd much prefer a tuned 900cc version with about 125HP then the lackluster 660...
I'd like to upgrade from my 900 Shiver..... The 660 will not deliver in the engine compartment... 5hp more if any... And no torgue... The 1100 Tuono would be a nearly 100% power gain combined with less weight.... That is just to extreme for my taste....
Aprilia...FTW!!!
Fun factor I'll take the new 1290 R.
Hey Scott, I know this video isn't about what I am going to write about but I don't know how I could contact you. So, what I'd like you to talk about and make people aware about is the Motorradfahrverbot that's coming in Germany and Austria, I'd like to know your opinion on this
Cheers from Austria👍👍
Ok, this is my honest American perspective on this matter: (note: after living here in Germany for 8 years now, and being married to a German for over 10 years now).
To be honest, this makes me very angry. If we accept this "logic", then all sports cars have to be included in this ban and personal aircraft and well we could go on...right? Otherwise we are singling out just one type of vehicle, saying it's ok for some but not for others. Several words come to mind: racism, bigotry, bias, intolerance, apartheid, chauvinism, prejudice, discrimination, this is really scary because what is the next step if this gets passed? Proponents of this will say that there will be no next step but history has shown us that there is always a next step...that is a fact.
If bikes are too loud then regulate the sound of the bike not all the owners of motorcycles, this is so asinine that it's unbelievable that educated, intelligent people in Berlin are even thinking about this, little alone passing a law.
It's time for German/Austrian people to change their thinking from regulate, regulate, regulate, to: start enforcing the laws that are already in place, simply because making more laws just punishes us normal people from doing what free citizens do every day. And then eventually we really are not free any more.🤔😒
@@NothingToProve Thanks Scott, it is nice to know your point of view on such matter, especially considering you are an American living in Germany (correct me if I'm wrong).
I concur with you: if now is like this, than tomorrow could easily be worse...
Thank you for your answer!
Ducati streetfighter?
I hope to see you review the v4 streetfighter
I doubt that will happen, the Ducati dealership is hard to work with...on a good day. Been there 4 times and called 2 times, and only made one video to show from my effort, the V2, so he said he will call me in a few weeks... I doubt he ever will unless I go back and pester him a few more times. Which I'm not a begger, nor is Ducati God's gift to motorcyclists. So too bad for Ducati, they will remain a niche motorcycle mfg. with this type of attitude towards the customers.
NothingToProve
I had the same request and a shame they are so customer unfriendly. ...
Which dealer is it and I will tell them they have to be gratefull having their bikes reviewed in such a professional way. So curious what you think of the Ducati SFV4S...
Thanks and keep up the good work.
Best bike on the planet.
from the graphs I've see the Tuono keeps up with the ducati up until it runs out of revs
from the life "I've seen" graphs don't really matter when it comes to revs
Thanks for watching, ride safe,
Scott
@@NothingToProve what I'm trying to say is that they should feel pretty close in power unless you hit those high revs, do you find that's the case?
I live in the United States, and the Super Duke is a much better street bike for my country's roads and laws. I'm also a fan of LED lights and having a fuel gauge.
I have a 2019 I had to try 3rd gear at 80 or 90 mph it will pull a wheelie to about 120 mph I also have a 2008 Ducati 1098 s with a flash ECU and 70 mm exhaust and the stock Aprilia I think is quicker
Can’t wait for Honda to release the all new CB-1000-RR-R-SP
Mit dem Akrapovic drauf ist es eine Hausnummer besser mit dem Sound.
The Tuono needs 'Self control' turned up to 11 out of ten, that's about the only problem :)
everything but a gas station indeed, haha
Kawa zh2 is the king of naked in my opinion
Which Kawasaki is "too nice". The H2-Z? Beginning to feel like there's a general distaste for Japanese bikes in Europe after binging several vids, or is it just this channel?
AT 16:19 I say the BMW "is too nice" too. So does that mean that I hate the European brands too? 🤣 Seriously though, if that's the impression you get from watching my channel then you are getting the wrong one. I try to be as objective as possible in every approach to each bike review. Sometimes much to the schagrin of the dealers that I work with.
But and here is my question to you, I really liked the ZH2 in the review video, did you watch that?
I really don't get clutch less up and down shifting, a smooth upshifter/blipper fine, but without it, I find it a bit like a Cowboy kicking a horse with spurs, not good for the horse and completely unnecessary!! Still each to their own!!
I thought that, but having one on my s1000r I would not go back - just better. That said, there are times where I ride without the QS because it is fun to nail shifts the old way . Best of both worlds.
Looks oldschool...
That's because it is old! But sometimes us old guys know how to ride :) and so does the Tuono.
wow that's a lot of corpses on the windscreen ;-)
i don't understand how anyone can push electric bikes/mobility when a monster like this can be ridden, that sound, that working bad ass engine....thats what MEN need :-)
It sounds good. Probably the best of all naked bikes. It is definitely fast and I am sure it handles good. But it has too many negatives. The biggest negative being dealer support where I live. I have only ever seen maybe 2 of these on the road. Lots of Ducatis and lots of SDR. No Tuonos. Next who wants to spend all their time at the gas station. The dashboard is not great and the switch gear is terrible. Sorry guys but I will have to pass on this.
Love IT, look a lot better then the new ducati. Streetfighter 😃
In my humble opinion this is not a bike to ride when you have nothing to prove. I have owned both the Super Duke R 1 gen. and the Tuono 1100 Factory. The problem with the Tuono is that it's to track focused. It's too hyper naked. Here in Scandinavia we have lots of back roads and the Tuono is superb when the surface is super slick. But when the roads gets rough its far too stiff especially if you have lots to prove. I found the SDR to be better and safer going fast on rough unknown roads, but only when the suspension is properly dialled in. A fast suspension for track is not fast for the road. Road suspension needs more travel. Think a rally car vs F1. My track setup for a bike is absolutely useless on the road and downright dangerous. I think the super naked should be the ultimate road weapon not track. Actually, your new Beemer has the potential to be a ferocious road weapon. A nothing to prove suspension is both faster and safer for the road 😊 I also found the quick shifter on the Tuono too slow. This combined with the heavy front bias made is less wheelie fun.
I literally ride my Tuono with SC Project GP shorty can for the sound. Literally.
Ahahahahah 😂😂😂
It’s not really naked in the true sense of the word, unlike the SDR.
Why this is called a 'naked' while spotting almost full fairings and can mount a proper windshield and still not kill the looks, I wouldn't figure out, but the legions who swear by this bike I can figure out. That Mill. End.
I think this is the first time we disagree about a bike.
First of all, I would never ever consider the Tuono a Naked-Bike!
Second, because if she is, the old Suzuki Bandit S and the Honda CBF 1000 are too. But they are not!
Yes, she is a powerful bike and maybe the best choice for a trackday, but in no terms I would choose her over the sexiest bike alive, the Super Duke! But even if the SD wouldn't exist, there is always MV Agusta. Sadly those bikes are not that common, but so beautiful!
Hi Simon,
No, we don't disagree, you disagree with the rest of the motorcycle community, the Tuono was the first to be called "super naked" about 18 years ago and then the segment started.
So I'm not the one that put it into the "naked" group 😁👌👍
I just have to treat it like one...that's all...because everybody else does.
@@NothingToProve Yes, I know that almost everyone calls her that, but technically she is not. Just like I said before.
Tbh, I even belong to another minority. Those who don't like the Tuono. I won't go into further detail, because I think that many people might want to punish me for blasphemy 😏😁
But I think she is not that good looking (quite the opposite) and doesn't sound that good. I saw her, I heard her and it was not for me.
But I admit that I have a very special taste and I have encountered many different types of disagreement for my opinions. But I don't care.
I'm not looking for support, but I think I'm entitled to have a mind of my own., just as everybody else.
Btw...
I never said that you were the first person to call it Super-Naked. I just wanted to make my point why I think that she is not.
Come on it’s not the right bike for you...
neither is a super model but you still want her! 😢
@@NothingToProve It's a bloody good bike despite being made in Italy...
Thanks Scott! Not a good looking bike with still too much fairings... and I do not like the switch gear - I see a cable clutch - the inst. panel looks out dated! Great motor! Great QS! Poor mapping! Overall I'll still stick with the SDR. Now for the V4 S .... Regards!
Such a great bike! I just wish it wasn't so Ugly! Aprilia needs to restyle the bike in my opinion!
This bike is UGLY! :D
nah, it's not ;)
What's your bike? A beautiful kawasaki? 😅
I think this bike looks dated. For its design date it was great but it has not moved on. Aprilia have acknowledged it need a redesign.
@@ampm9771 a super Duke GT
And so is your mum