I was diagnosed with ADHD as a child in the late nineties. So at this point I’ve taken Ritalin for almost 25 years. I has done a lot of good in my life, I doubt for example that I could have become a civil engineer without it. But I always encourage people to find a minamal effective dose. When I was on higher doses it made me feel reserved or curbed in an odd way.
The reserved feeling can leave you with age. Diagnosed at 7, im 31 now. Took it until 15, mom lost insurance. Didnt take it again until I was in the military 10 years later. And boy, I forgot how much better I was overall as a person with it. Never second doubted myself, confidence was up. And I didnt have the same reserved feelings I had when I was a child. Been off it for a year, ever since I separated from the military and even though I am successful (if you measure how much income I make) I am miserable and can hardly function.
With ADHD, your dopamine is on a lower baseline. This makes you seek out dopamine. This is why the stimulant actually chills you, you can be content with the present moment and what you are currently doing
Long time sub. I'm working through a later in life diagnosis with ADHD as well. I'm 33, fairly successful, and have been a master of masking it. I'm only now starting to really explore and try to treat it. Thank you for using your platform to discuss this. It affects so many people, and they are oblivious or in denial of it. Great content!
Thanks for posting this. I've been able to cope with these symptoms all of my life. I've generally done well in school and career, but I retired this year, and without the structure of a work week and deadlines, I find that I am really struggling to get anything accomplished. My wife is getting frustrated with me, and my anxiety is through the roof. At almost 65 years old, it might seem a little late, but this discussion has given me the inspiration to at least talk to someone. Again, thank you so much!
Just remember a LOT of professionals are trained to medicate you on stuff that doesn't necessarily work for you but makes pharma more money Read as MUCH as you can, ask as many questions as possible, and make sure to have your wife go with you to everything or at the very least cover everything talked about at your visits when you get home. If there is one thing I have learned in life it's that we will ALWAYS miss important questions as we are only human, so make sure to bounce stuff off someone else and see the questions they can come up with that you missed
@@victorkreig6089 Great advice! 👍 I was about to go to the Dr. to get a script for a stimulant but I finally decided to give the carnivore diet a try, high fat, medium protein, practically zero carb. It has only been two weeks but I am a completely different person so much so that my wife is still trying to process the changes. I decided to try this ultimate elimination diet because I have been practically disabled and bedridden at times. I was diagnosed a little over a decade ago at the mere age of 24, first with chronic fatigue, then fibromyalgia which then led to MANY other issues including piss poor hormonal imbalances and extremely low testosterone (tested MANY times, always falling between 160-240 ng/dl). Before my sickness, I looked to be in great shape, with some very respectable #'s in the gym including a 245# seated military press for like 5-6 reps. Prior to being given a title for my sickness, I was advised to do the same basics we hear all of the time. With the diagnosis of an autoimmune disease in which they decide you have based on symptoms alone, it opens up the flood gates to so called "treatments" and other big pharma experiments, pills injections, nerve blockage and ablasions, etc, etc, etc. I have wasted well over 100 thousand dollars over the years in Dr's visits, specialists, medications, and other treatments. I have spent at least 10-15k in supplements alone over the past decade in which 99% of them did little to no good, some even caused more issues. Not trying to rant for too long but wanted to give anyone reading another possible option in their arsenal of building a happy healthy and functional body. I doubt I will be zero to low carb for more than a few months but I will continue until most symptoms/issues have gone AWOL and energy levels, motivation, and attention span stay peaked. Then I will add back in fruits, possibly some dairy if my body and mind can handle it without any symptoms. I'll eventually play around with some homemade sourdough bread (no preservatives/other junk and no sugar in sourdough bread) to see how it will sit with me and then of course play around with some simple carbs around the times of strenuous workouts, again when and if it works for me. I can go into way more detail if anyone is interested, just ask. Last thing, over the past decade the one thing I did that flipped everything around was an extended fast I did back in 2017, I booked an airbnb by the beach for a month and walked/exercised daily, water fasted roughly 18 out of the 30 days I was there and ate one meal a day (steak/eggs) for the remaining 12 days. I lost 33 pounds in that one month, pain decreased by about 85%, depression gone, anxiety decreased by 95% and so on. It was also the first time in my life I had a legit ripped six pack. I came back from that month and I'll never forget the looks and feedback I got. They couldn't even believe how different I looked in such a short period of time. After I got back, I was so motivated and felt practically invincible... but after a few months, little by little, everything returned, it happens so slow its hard to get ahead of and see the full picture of what is happening. For years after that, I felt hopeless, spent most of the day in bed and the knowledge that I could feel better if I could just not eat loomed over me. I knew that the food I was eating was causing me to feel like I was "consciously dead". I then learned about all of the plant toxins, oxalates/lectins/cyanogenic glycosides and so on that are in nearly EVERY plant. These are natural toxins in the plant/vegetable in order to protect itself from predators as it cannot flee... obviously. I never knew about this and I also VASTLY underestimated the importance of animal fats/butter for healthy hormones and a healthy mind. I feel the amazing benefits from when I fasted years ago except this is a million times easier. I'm eating as much fat as I can with a healthy amount of protein and I'm not even trying to diet, yet I still lost 5 pounds the first week (mostly water) and 3 more pounds this week. I feel alive for the first time in years and I just wanted to share that excitement with anyone else who understands where I'm coming from and is looking for something that works 🙂
Genuine question: Do you really think that after having a lifetime of success academically, professionally, and probably personally, you discovered at age 65 that you have a mental disorder rooted in your physical brain that doesn't allow you to focus and pay attention to get things done? Or is it more likely that you've just experienced a major life change and are just having some difficulty and taking some time to adjust to the change?
@@utah_koidragon7117 Good question, and one which I have thought quite a bit about. I remember when I was 6 or 7 my mom took me to a child psychologist because I couldn’t make it through dinner without getting up and wandering around. My teachers reported similar behavior in class. I would get up and bother other students when we were supposed to be working independently. In those days, ADHD wasn’t really a thing, so I was labeled a hyperactive child and would most likely grow out of it, and in the meantime, discipline, structure, and routine was recommended. And, for the most part, those strategies served me well. It wasn’t until I lived with my stepson who had a very positive diagnosis of ADHD that I began to see very familiar and relatable behavior. Although you are correct that a major life change is definitely a strong contributor to the way I’m currently feeling, I can’t help but think there’s more to it.
Never too late, and 65 is the new 45, you've got a lot of life left to live, a lot you can still do, and if it's impacting your relationships, it's definitely worth talking to a medical professional.
I got diagnosed at 27 (had aspbergers my whole life). I took a slow acting adhd medication and it was night and day for me. I'd say off the bat, your speech seems increased like mine was when on it. I could remember details and things I needed to do, I felt alive and happy and energetic. Sadly been off them for 2 years now due to long waiting lists to see psychiatrists to get prescribed (Australia is very strict with amlhetamines). So my life has sort of taken a spiral. Glad you got the help you need, I always explain to people that it makes life night and day, your brain which was once static CRT monitor is now 4k ultra.
I got diagnosed as aspergers 2years ago too(28 now) Despite being suspected to have adhd from different clinicians because of concentration problems it was very good explained because of persistent major depressive disorder, childhood trauma and long duration psychosis during adolescence. From the last too years i made such big improvement in life. I can certainly concentrate better, but it stagnated. What kind of low dose medication do you take? I dont want to take Amphetamine per se because i could relapse in psychotic symptoms. I would certainly discuss this with my clinicians.
NOT TO BE that GUY, BUT CRTs were steadily hitting 2K and sometimes even 4K when we started making the change away from them. Hope your evil government stops raw dogging you and lets you get on with your life
Just start self medicating with meth or speed. It's better to do that than to let your life spiral. I had to do that because doctors wouldn't give me the time of day. Eventually I got so frustrated I said fuck it and took matters into my own hands. Also did the same with testosterone, and glad I did. Fuck stingy doctors.
Really glad to hear you got diagnosed and are responding well to the medication. I went undiagnosed for years as an adult, and specifically during my college/university years, I thought I just didn't study properly and everyone told me I just needed to work harder. Once I got diagnosed and on meds years later, I realized it was the untreated ADHD which made everything so hard.
ADHD meds are a trip, man. I contribute my main reason for being a skinny "hardgainer" to Ritalin. Used to take that stuff for a little while in my developmental years, one of the symptoms being a very reduced appetite. I stopped with the meds but my eating habits remained as they were. Considering trying them again as my academics are in trouble now, but its hard to pick between that increased performance and decreased appetite. Thanks for this video man, its refreshing to see this in a world where people are quick to dismiss ADHD as being "fake"
I'd say try a different med. I find amphetamine based medications are better for me as I don't notice any issues with appetite etc. With Ritalin it's definitely effective at managing symptoms but it does reduce my appetite. Having said that I do still get in enough food as I'm just so used to eating a good 6 meals per day.
@@andrewdavies2640 im keen on trying Adderall instead of Ritalin soon but funnily enough because of my ADHD i just havent gotten around to making an appointment
Im on a pretty low dose ritalin and it does impact the appetite quite a bit. I always take it after breakfast and after afternoon snack so I can be sure to put some calories in. I also switched to more calorie dense foods (right now putting peanut butter or olive oil in almost every meal).
I take the meds in the morning after a big breakfast, then in the early afternoon, and i don't feel the need for lunch or snack. When the meds wear off in the evening I eat at dinner, and I allow myself a big proteinated snack before bed, with the appetite and to equate calories and macros.
Woah this is a trip. Found your page from your body standards video. Been in the bodybuilding/hypertrophy training sphere for a while and just six months ago at the age of 27 got diagnosed with ADHD. Been on vyvannce for about a month and its been life changing. Weird finding such a relatable video.
Glad to hear someone like you, who I look up to have a similar issue and tackle it in the same way I do. Started ADHD meds two months ago after being diagnosed at age 22. Can say, never been more happy with productivity and with being more responsible with my time.
First off, I'm really enjoying these "off topic" videos of your's. As someone who does NOT have ADHD, it really does sound like you experienced normal function. It reminds me of pre vs post-trt, realizing just how powerful NORMAL can be. Also reminded me of a concept/theory connecting ADHD and autism I learned of recently of monotropism vs polytropism. Basically, a "normal" brain like mine is polytropic and can easily switch focuses and has lots of room to have things held loosely in focus. The more monotropic, the more "tunnel vision". Hence, a lot of your ADHD experience, where I new thought hijacks and fully encompasses your focus without any room for even REMEMBERING what came before. People who are autistic can even find it physically distressing to change focus or have anything unpredictable happen, but love the comfort of hyper focusing one one singular thing (extreme tunnel vision that's super comforting but physically/mentally painful to change) I might have butchered that explanation, but I tried. Anyway, I hope you keep doing well and look forward to what other topics you cover!
@@pardipdev6803 I've been on it since 2020. My dose is maxed out. It's the appropriate dose for me, I'm very large, and I have been on ADHD meds on and off since 95'
@pardipdev6803 been on it since 95, well, Ritalin first, followed by Adderall, etc. but I did have a period of years without. I have been on Vyvanse since 2020. I currently take the max dose of 70mg. My quality of life has VASTLY improved. It's helped me in both my career and in my relationships, but also in my motivation to get shit done.
Bro, quitting my ADHD medication after about a year's usage, as a 31-year old, has been waaaay rougher than breaking my amphetamine addiction 6 years ago, or breaking my smoking addiction. Fuck me but it is brutal, and I mean IS, because I'm still deep in the hole from quitting that shit. And it was a slow wind-down, not cold turkey!
@@AlexanderBromley well it was 'only' a seven-month run of about 300mg of amp per day towards the end. And regular amp, not meth. And again, over half a decade ago. Coupled with the fact that the medication I was prescribed was Strattera, officially the weakest of all ADHD medication, I dunno. I don't really FEEL like my previous addiction affected the effectiveness of the meds. It's worth noting that I drink 400mg of caffeine and consume... I dunno, 20+mg of nicotine gums per day, I think those would have a higher impact. Besides, I did feel a lot of effects from the medication in the beginning. Which ties into Why I quit: 1. Tolerance. After ramping up for six months and cruising for another six, I no longer feel any effects from the medication. I do however feel a massive negative effect when I forget to take it, or forget to renew my prescription on time... Which, hey, I have freaking adhd, of course that happens. 2. It blew up my blood pressure from 125/85 to 160/105, which had to be balanced out by other medications, that had annoying side effects. And again, if I ran out? Fucking anguish. 3. I hate feeling like I have to take more pills at 31 than my freaking gramps. 4. I feel like nicotine gums are the perfect solution: all the focus benefits of smoking without the ruined lunges. And yes, I did smoke before, but fun fact: the good BP was as a chain smoking 500mg per week test user. So neither test nor smoking are a blip on the radar compared to the fucking meds. So uh, yeah, fuck the meds. It's better just to go balls deep in finding strategies to handle it. Also weed, it worked amazing until the cops showed up. I was focused, productive, creative and could sleep well. At least cbd oil is legal and helps a little bit.
Man. I’m 28 and I suffer from a lot of these same things that makes it hard to be consistent in my life with certain things. This video gave me hope that seeking help can offer relief and stability. Thanks for posting this, Alex
I was diagnosed at around 7 with a sever case. Was treated for about a year. My grades went from Cs to As. My mom got worried about the med and took me off. I struggled until I was 34, when I finally went to get a diagnosis again. Now I am on Adderall, and it has helped me in a lot of areas. I've been on it now for about a year. I can't believe I made it through college with a ME degree. I was self medicating with a lot of caffeine. I think the structure of college was actually better for me than office work as an engineer. The deadlines were clear, as was the expectations. With work those things were a lot more gray, and I really struggled to accomplish things.
@@benpeterson7530Are you still doing engineering work? Curious if you had to find any coping techniques/tips for engineering work (recent EE grad here).
This video almost made me cry when I saw it. I have been weighttraining for a couple years and have been watching your videos and learning a lot from you. I'm an overweight 36 y/o guy and I identify with you over your story of being overweight when you were younger, and even some of your shares in recent videos about your desire to loose weight. Now I see this - I am having my own struggles with attention as I am trying to make my life work better. I have felt so much better mentally from lifting weights, now I am thinking that getting these issues around attention looked at / diagnosed will be the next step in living a more optimal life. Thanks for sharing this!
Unexpected to meet this in your channel. I have not gone here to hear about ADHD, and I have been impressed with your take and presentation of training and lifting matters. I highly appreciate this aspect of you channel as well and am happy that your new steps seem to help you! Well done! I will get back to your channel with a new and broader view of what you bring to the table. All the best!
I had many of the same symptoms described by the host and commenters. I was the guy with "potential " who needed to get organized , apply myself , focused. I was a self-medicating mediocre employee , an unreliable friend , and the father most likely to be late to any function. It was not until my late 40's when I was diagnosed with ADHD and prescribed Vyvanse that my life changed. My job turned into a career , my relationships improved, and for the first time in life I was able to set and stay focused on a goal long enough to achieve it. I know this isn’t the answer for everyone but if you struggle with any of the symptoms described in this video discuss them with medical professional . It could change your life.
Thanks so much for this. I'm waiting for the diagnosis process (long waiting list here in Iceland) at almost 42 years old, and I can relate to everything you're talking about. I've done OK for myself, but my head hasn't always made it easy. Love this video.
I'm going to be professionally evaluated for ADHD soon. I've had symptoms my whole life but it's difficult to get a good psychiatrist in my country. I resonated so much with your experiences that I actually got teary eyed, I never expected this type of video from you but it sure is a welcome surprise! Really glad to see you get help.
Great video as my son has ADHD and at 11 it’s hard for me to understand just how he feels or thinks but you have made it that little bit easier. But also he likes to watch adult guys talk about their ADHD as he gains confidence he isn’t “broken” and can grow up to be successful
He aint broken, just didn't cook long enough in the oven If his adhd isn't severe than most likely his perception in general isn't much different than yours but is more easily summed up as everyone has a computer console they use to input their actions in life and his just so happens to be in 4 different languages on random keys and he can only read 1 and a half of them. It's not that he can't it just takes 3 times as much effort to do the same stuff as a normal person does. However, that also means he can see things in ways that other people can't as well so it isn't all one sided
I was diagnosed with a neurological disorder last year myself. It’s a weird thing being 35 and getting something you’ve always struggled with, in both big and small ways, labeled as something. But it brought me a lot of relief. It’s ok that I struggle with X or that Y feels impossible to me. If there were a medication for it I’m not sure I’d consider it. That’s a tough call but glad it seems to be working out for you.
Not trying to rain on your parade but a lot of people get basically euphoric in the first few months and then sort of go back towards baseline, which is one of the reasons I've been afraid to pursue it. Would love an update in 6 months or a year
I don’t know if it’s ADHD, but sometimes I have trouble processing what someone is saying. My mind like you said wanders during conversation, or I’m trying to pay attention so hard when someone’s talking that I’ll focus on focusing, not what they’re saying.
I had to take it in Med school I had a kid and wife it was a god send. I was diagnosed when I was 12 my mother was anti drug so we did cognitive therapy, which worked. But I was dipping drinking a lot of coffee and using a lot of pre-workout to be able to study, and I had to wear headphones and drown out with the noise with music so i could focus. Having a 2 year old clinicals lack of sleep made it near impossible for me to sit down. I had restless leg syndrome. Once I started my meds I can sit down do my notes. I actually sat down for my boards and was able to sit and take the exam. For me that was what made the Mcat and step one so hard I couldn’t sit down in front of the computer to take the exam. The Ironic part is that a lot of people that do have adhd self medication anyhow with stimulants anyhow. The cool part is in the gym I’ve felt that I’m able to work more efficiently and more focus while in the gym.
Self-DXed at 44, started lifting 4 months ago at 47. Love you for posting this, homie. Vyvanse is the truth. Thanks for advocating on behalf of the tribe.
I came to the conclusion I have ADHD literally this week, and every video I watch about it just strikes more and more chords with me - the thing about earworms totally resonates with me, as I'll just find myself getting various songs stuck in my head all of a sudden for ages. I've also had folk getting on at me for my poor memory my entire life, and the thing you said about interviewing someone and then realising you hadn't taken in a thing they said - yep, totally. As does the thing about only having two slots of working memory. I'm a long way from getting a professional diagnosis (I'm also awaiting a diagnosis for autism, and that's not going to happen for about two years), but even when I do, I worry that medication might change who I am. I quite like myself, and in recent years in particular, I've grown to accept even my faults as just being who I am. That said, when I realised I had autism, suddenly I realised that so many of the issues that have ruined previous relationships are probably because of that, and now that I'm learning about ADHD, I see that it might have had an impact as well. So maybe I need to at least try it out and see what happens. Maybe it'll turn me into some superbrain genius.
Get help either way. It's extremely easy these days; you can find psychs online to do remote sessions. There are too many tools available to make yourself live life that way.
@@AlexanderBromley Thanks for a great and informative video, it's a bit more difficult in my country, actual drugs aren't that accessible and are insanely expensive, so I guess we'll have to work with what we have, mainly behavioral therapy, psychotherapy and simply working on some good habits, that's what people should begin with anyways.
Late diagnostic here too, finally able to get into the line of work I was looking for and bring security to my family. Not on meds every day, but I use it periodicaly when needed. Also with the minimal efficient dose.
Idk i took concerta 18mg after i was diagnosed and it didnt feel like medicine it felt like i was on drugs, the laser focus was crazy and the “noise” inside my head was practically gone, but i slept awful and lost a lot of weight so i got off it and never really gave stimulants another chance, but i managed to get a lot more structure into my life and im doing pretty well in chemical engineering atm but thats just my two cents
@@CO_Hart2a lot of kids aren't diagnosed due to not being hyperactive and being quiet and "well-behaved", yet adults will assume kids that can't sit still for six hours are broken
Thanks for sharing Bromley. I was diagnosed right before the hardest year of my nursing program. It has definitely helped, but is not a cure all for academic struggles. I still have to work my ass off, and even have to retake my hardest class (ICU) this quarter.
Happy for you that you got that sorted out. I got many of the same Symptoms. When in conversations i try to speak the words of the other person in my head, that my mind dont wander around
Can I be real man? Hearing you talk about your experience with procrastination and anxiety was really cool. Seeing a big dude with his life together admit to the same things I experience, the things that make me feel small and lesser, means a hell of a lot. Thank you for talking about this
I think you were pretty fair. I've overacted every negative diagnosis through patterning my life differently and resisting indulgences. I can't even say what exactly is being mentally healthy other than having a pretty good handle on practical life and not being a total slave to emotions. What is the perfect example of best and truly good in terms of 'mental health' this is unclear to everyone if you ask me, although it would be nice to know what we ought to be like in the world.. The standard for 'mental health' is so generalized and debated.. if practicality is the most important then what's 'truly successful' is also too complex to be sure of what someone ought to have done accomplished already (by whatever age brackets) because of where they've built up from and what specific challenges they're currently undergoing. I think what's most crucial to know one's having a good life, which is what one ought to make their ultimate standard, asking questions like "are you typically enjoying things or at least what you're bearing isn't bringing you down?" "are you trying to get better at doing things despite aging?" "are you not negatively affecting others?" "are you providing the bare minimum and striving to save for security reasons or even beyond survival and already thriving?" These ought to be the thoughts rather than "I can be "fixed" by this exogenous chemical or even this external meeting with a person"
Agree with all of this. And I feel that I was in a unique position to define those things and make a decision accordingly. One of the reasons I don't want to sell out to "listen to your psych and don't worry about it" is because I don't think I would be here if I prioritized "fixes". When we use tools more, we expect less effort so we disengage. Goalposts move and standards change, so being present and responsible in the fave of that is crucial
Everything you said about your experience is so relatable. I’ve been putting off getting diagnosed despite people around me telling me my mental would improve so much more(that and I procrastinate on scheduling an appointment and then I forget lol). I think this vid will give me that final push to help myself.
Been taking Concerta for about 15 years, got through college with it. It felt like a super student drug though, and now I'm off it for a bit (experimenting) and I'm functioning pretty well (but I don't have a lot of stresses at work yet, so we'll see once work picks up). Definitely very helpful, but I much prefer being able to function without using drugs to pick up the slack.
I recently was diagnosed with adhd and autism. The autism makes me obsessed with one thing for a certain length of time, and the adhd makes me repeat the same thought over and over because ideas don't stick in my head
I have ADHD. I was on meds for a few years then got off of them. The biggest issue I have with the medicine is they cause your brain to depend on them so heavily that when you stop taking them your ADHD is a million times worse. It took me a year to finally feel better and I still do have to take some supplements which I’ve found to be helpful.
I think I have ADHD because I get really anxious and jump between tasks 24/7. I am also a gym addict because lifting weights is a great way to shut my brain down and stop thinking. Sometimes it gets so bad that I depersonalise and get lost in my own head and everything feels like a dream state, but I am afraid to get a diagnosis because of how much medical bills are in the USA. I just want my life to slow down again. Meditating has been a great help like that, but I am starting to realise that I cannot behave like the high-functioning person I want to be because I begin to space out after several days of work.
Man, this makes me want to look at getting diagnosed again. During my PhD, I thought that this might be an issue. I have a lot of the signs you mentioned. So I talked to a psychiatrist at the school about it and they asked about my experience in undergrad. I said I didn't take notes in class, but I did fine. They said there was no way I had ADHD. It wasn't satisfactory at the time, but I went on with my day. Like you, I've managed to do fine without any medication and I use caffeine to help focus a lot of the time. I could definitely use more help focusing, though. I mean, I'm watching RUclips at work right now...
If you are smart enough you will just brute force through school (same with me). It's about the sum of the experiences. If you feel like the stuff in the video sounds like you it's definitely worth to check if its ADHD.
Been considering testing for this because my attention span is awful. Totally relate to the ear worms thing. Christmas jingles have gotten so stuck in my head I fully thought I was losing my mind haha
I'm very skeptical when it comes to thinking I have the symptoms of an illness or something because I watch a video or read about it, but after watching this and seeing my whole bookshelf filled with half-read books..... I think I might need to consider some possibilities.
DO NOT MEDICATE FOR ADHD IF YOU LEARN TO BE PRODUCTIVE WITHOUT IT!!!!! I was diagnosed at 15 and was put on pills... They kept upping the dose until I was suicidal, irritable, and not eating anything. I got off at 17 and have had a more productive life ever since, because instead of medication, I learned and trained myself to live with it.
I appreciate the hell out of this video. One Thing I struggled with while on meds is that it kills my appetite. Did you or anyone have this issue and how did you make sure you're eating enough while working out?
Is there some documented issue with long term use? I feel like people intuitively think it's not great, but there doesn't seem to be any research supporting that. No, test didn't have an effect. HIgh doses with other compounds around contest time arguably made it worse.
There's a saying, "Fuck Around and Find Out." You only have one brain my friends. Understand that messing with your nervous system using a PED with a stimulant medication may come with a price. One you may not be prepared to pay.
I'm 34 and have my ADHD assessment booked in few weeks time. So many behaviors that were normalised to me, pointed out as ADHD symptoms by my partner. I'm hoping makes certain aspects of my life more manageable.
Vyvanse (50mg dose) definitely does start to wear off after 7-8pm if I take it around 9-10am but I've been taking it for 4-5 years so my body has adapted to it and I can fall asleep with it now as well (But I'm one of those people who can fall asleep wherever whenever)
constantly reading from very well spoken people that ADHD is not real and it's just boys being boys absolutely annoys the sht out of me, as a going to be Psychologist with a little bit of neuroscience experience under my belt. there is so much hard proof with fMRI that shows brain activity is quite different from people that do not struggle with the symptoms - it's not broken, but it's different and at the point where those symptoms become unbearable to live with it is absolutely reasonable to look into pharmaceutical treatment to level the playing field and shaming those people that actually have the guts to get the help they need to perform is just absolute bs. yes effect sizes in Psychology are always kind of vague and weak in comparison to harder research sciences in the STEM field, but that does in no way shape or form mean that we're just pumping kids full of drugs to see if it helps or not. but profound criticism of that topic is always appreciated (e.g. the SSRI example, we don't fully understand why it works but it somehow works after a while for a while at least), but stigmatizing those that actually take their problems seriously and seek help is just stupid and enrages me greatly. appreciate you sharing your two cents on the topic here, brutally honest anecdotal evidence is very much needed in these trying times of mental health TikTok scams!
There is a war on men and has been for over a century, because if we get put into a cage then there is only women left and they're extremely emotional creatures and easy to manipulate
Such an interesting experience (your "signs I ignored") - I can't relate to any of these, apart from procrastination, so it's fascinating to hear that many people suffer like this
Treating my ADHD only with lifestyle currently, was diagnosed finally as an ABD PhD candidate in 2012, was suffering with a MDD episode and that was what got me into the psychiatrist to find all that out, took ritalin and anti-depressants for a short while there, but have always wondered about the other ADHD meds out there...
Got my diagnosis a few weeks ago at 23. Had all the same symptoms you do - and I'm almost not surprised. The internet selects for people with ADHD very strongly due to the immediate nature of platforms like youtube, reddit etc. Everybody that's chronically online's got adhd, it's kinda creepy. All your friends too.
Being chronically online is not a symptom of ADHD. While people with ADHD are more likely to engage in activities that are short in duration/quickly rewarding, you can absolutely have ADHD without any access to the internet OR be chronically online and not have ADHD. Edit: But I do agree that platforms absolutely do try take advantage of people who suffer from ADHD or other conditions that make controlling behavior highly difficult.
@@DObscura-yi5es Not what he's saying, internet addiction gives you the same symptoms that adhd does Can square it any way you want but that's the reality of it
@@victorkreig6089 That is nowhere in the discussion. 🤦🏽 Btw I'm glad you got your diagnosis @Blackdiamond2, it's a pain in the ass to live with - especially without treatment.
I'll say one thing about adhd meds. The stimulants make me stronger and able to push myself harder for longer, but they make bulking difficult because of the effects on appetite.
Fantastic video, I also have adhd and the difference between when I take the medication and when I don't is like night and day. Within 15 minutes I can feel its effects like brain circuits are being switched on that I can't tell were off because they were switched off. My ability to play chess, read, write, organise my life, all of it is hugely improved. When I was doing my Masters Degree and I tried for months to do it without the medication I just could not visualise the overall gestalt or direction that the essay needed to take. I couldn't see it or visualise it, I start taking the medication and within hours I have an idea of the beginning, middle and end and how the whole essay meaningfully and coherently fits together into a combined whole. I tried for weeks without it and couldn't manage it. As well Psylocybin can work wonders if used with the correct mindset and setting.
I am 37 and struggled with this my entire life on top of many other factors that actually had me believing it was not ADHD. But Vyvanse has changed my life for sure.I tried Rittilian (methylphenidate) for a while but it was not as good.
I have pretty much every symptom you had, but I got tested for memory issues and ADHD but they said I didn't have it because I was able to function in the clinical setting, as my focus wasn't elsewhere, it was easy to focus on the tests at the doctor's office. Every single thing you say about your experience with ADHD is like listening to myself. I'm going to have to go back to the doctor's and push harder, because I also didn't want to take medications as I had only know about the shorter form meds, but if this medication is longer form, I want to see the effects, as my life is in a standstill because I'm unable to push forwards.
This is all so familiar. I really need help, but the NHS in the UK has a two year waiting list and of course I've been procrastinating getting on it, because two years is "later" and I've so much to do "now."
I haven’t been diagnosed with ADHD but I have tried both medication you mentioned. The first time I took Adderall I fell asleep. Vyvanse didn’t make me sleep but it also didn’t feel like an improvement. My symptoms seem to point to Cyclothemia. Unfortunately when I started going to my mental health clinic I thought my prescribing physician would be a psychiatrist and I was wrong. The best I’ve felt was micro-dosing psilocybin and that was only for two weeks. It’s not easy to find where I live so unfortunately I wasn’t able to continue. I want to use it again and hopefully replace the Klonopin I am currently prescribed.
I was diagnosed as a kid but i doubted it until i went back on simulants as an adult and took an afternoon nap for the first time in 20 years after my first dose lol😂 Life went on easy mode after I'd spent so long unmedicated.
Great piece. I have had a few opportunities to listen to & learn about the ins/outs and whys of ADHD, but for some reason I never chose to actually listen & learn until some youtube dude -- to whom I subscribe for his insightful takes on strength training & life -- decided to talk about it from the adult perspective. Of course, like many of your listeners, I probably tried to apply some of your insights & thoughts to inform a "self-diagnosis" of this condition in myself. . . safe to say that I don't appear to exhibit any of the signs. Then why would I listen to this and why would I try to self-diagnosis: because, in the game of re-productive life, the apple can't fall very far from the tree (or can it?). My kid (female; teenager now) was diagnosed with ADHD a few years ago and, though I've funded her meds and her psyche visits, I never really thought about how ffff'd up things could be without that diagnosis and without that treatment. Your take on things from the diagnosed-adult perspective brought me around on that; so thank you very much. The way you described incidents in your childhood (especially teen/pre-teen years) and how things went in school and social life; damn, that stuff was like the male version of what I saw (and still see; but much less frequently these days) with my daughter. Again, these far-from-strength-training pieces of yours are quite solid, insightful, well done, and useful.
I have adhd and I take my medication at 7am every week day to help focus on school, unfortunately it’s supposed to last 6 hours and only lasts about 3-4
My mind keeps wandering during sets and it messes up my reps count. It usually happens when i see scantily clad girls during the set, so a bit unsure if it's my mind or eyes wandering off...
Got diagnosed around 17, just turned 19. Haven't watched the video yet. But one thing i've noticed is that i feel stronger in the gym when i've taken my meds. I would assume it has to do with maybe being more focused, or feeling more awake than normally. Other than that im still unsure how much the meds help me.
I was always told it makes people feel slow, but… I only feel more intelligent on Wellbutrin as im usually just so distracted. Its nice seeing your journey as well
alex b.- i want to know how to work out with weights while on adderrall/vyvanse because i "think" that these stimulants are drying me out to where i get multiple strains and tweaks with muscles, ligaments, and joints, it's been giving me great results with everyday life until i actually exert my self with either weights or just harder chores around the house. vyvanse is smoother than the adderrall on my body physically but i have to take the adderrall to kick start everything or else it takes a half day for the vyvanse to kick in or not work, kinda like an old carbureted engine that needs starter fluid to get it running. lol. i want to know if the stimulant is drying you out during your workouts to get small strains and pains. thanks. congrats with your diagnosis and wish the best for you. btw- i drink around 100 ounces of water per day at 195lbs..
Thanks for posting. Yep you can mask it pretty well and don't be that stereotypical hyperactive brat. I was diagnosed at 29 with prior attempts to treat anxiety / depression, that mainly did not help. I was always mixed, kinda bright, kinda dumb. I just understood stuff, but just could not focus on stuff I found boring or confusing. I achieved nothing academically; I was praised in all jobs and then rage-quit most of them. I can sleep like a baby after Ritalin. It helps a lot, but if you built lots of maladaptive behaviour over the years, there is lot to learn and unlearn. Also at higher doses I kinda don't feel like myself, that sudden strange lack of emotional rollercoaster. At lower doses it does not help as much.
I'm 49 and have been referred by my doctor for an ADHD assessment, I'm on a long waiting list for that here in the UK. Hadn't consider it before until we were looking into an assessment for our teenage daughter and that's what lead me to realise. Two of my nephews have ADHD and one of them also has Asperger's. I'm interested in medication but also worry I could lose aspects of my personality and sense of self if I dial down too much, if that makes sense. Have you ever found ADHD to impact on your comp performances or mindset? I compete at novce level but struggle with nerves and overreacting to poor events or lower placings etc.
I’m pretty sure I ADHD, I used and abused Riddlen in college and it felt like my mind was so sharp I could see through walls. I used them mostly around exams so I could do amazing on tests. Unfortunately there are consequences for using that stuff like loss of appetite or inability to sleep so I had to time when was the best time to used them. I haven’t used them for years as I hated the negative effects far more than liking the positive effects. It is definitely a great drug for crunch time when you need a high horse power brain but it can drain the hell out of you when you are coming off of them. I’m glad they exist, they are extremely useful but I stay away from them unless I really need them.
Damn, guys. Be careful with the drug use. The honeymoon phase doesnt last long and you end up worse off in the end, more often than not. There's way too much shit i want to say on this. It would take an essay. Dont rely on the meds, Bromley. I see they work well for you (they work wonders for my adhd ass too) and i know you aint askin, but take the lowest dose as infrequently as possible. Like fewest days of the week. Only the busiest. Many end up on the higher doses and need it to function at what would have been their previous baseline w/o ever using meds. They are left with nothing but the shitty side effects. Side effects that are not as apparent on low doses or early on in treatment. At this point, stopping is incredibly difficult. In many instances, the dopamine deficit resulting from cecession after long term use of the moderate and higher doses (that many inevitibly end up on) can be quite devastating. Personal antidote: most days, I have the urge to use my meds, but I hardly take them. A tool in the toolbox, sure. They were the tits for alittle while, but surely enough, things changed. Too often, I dont feel like a good version of myself when I use them now. A piece of my soul is missing. An important piece that myself and the people around me rely on. Yet the urge to take them, nearly every single day, remains. And when it is all said and done, it seems that im more productive overall when im off them at this point. This is not uncommon. Yall do with that what you will. But drugs can work pretty well if you hardly ever do them in the first place soooooo low dose, low frequency, and always remember, your doctor probably doesnt know shit. Haha aaaand this novel was brought to you byyyy, adhd.
I too have ADHD, and ive tried many meds before getting the one that worked. Vyvanse did gave me a little boost, but this one made me extremely angry and dangerous, the same as Dexedrine. The one that worked for me was concerta (derivatives from ritalin). The first time I took dexedrine, man I was Dr Manatan... "If only you could perceive time as I do..."
My proms are much worse and I some how made it through school but in my last year of college. Seems the older I get the worse it gets, just sent for the test. Hopefully I’m prescribed, my life is unnecessarily way harder and has been due to all the symptoms from it. Hopefully this can get on the right track.
Help? I injured my Lower back at work like 20 years ago & have bad chronic pain daily. I don't wanna go back on opiods & none of the procedures on my back have worked. Is it possible to rehab/strengthen the muscles in my back through weight training & lessen my pain??? I have pinched nerves, bulging disc's & an anticular tear or some shit but I have been working with a single # of dumbells & doing pushups for 6 months (dont have any other lifting equipment yet unfortunately) but have toned up in the arms & chest & lost 30+lbs mostly in the belly which is highly motivating. Second question should I incorporate daily stretching for my lower back? Any suggestions or am I destined to live in pain forever. I wanna improve my pain not make it worse but short term physical therapy referred from a physician has never helped at all.
Man i should try one these things, i always suffer from painful proscratination, in almost everything, even in playing games sometimes wich is weird, i feel always foggy, i do something then someone ask me something else and i forget complety, i want to try so badly man now.
I was diagnosed with ADHD as a child in the late nineties. So at this point I’ve taken Ritalin for almost 25 years. I has done a lot of good in my life, I doubt for example that I could have become a civil engineer without it. But I always encourage people to find a minamal effective dose. When I was on higher doses it made me feel reserved or curbed in an odd way.
I haven't been medicated for my ADHD since fifth grade and I'm a civil engineer.
So how many hours you need to take it again or it lasts all day?
I have some ADHD autism and OCD I’m an overcomer 😂😅
The reserved feeling can leave you with age.
Diagnosed at 7, im 31 now. Took it until 15, mom lost insurance.
Didnt take it again until I was in the military 10 years later.
And boy, I forgot how much better I was overall as a person with it. Never second doubted myself, confidence was up.
And I didnt have the same reserved feelings I had when I was a child.
Been off it for a year, ever since I separated from the military and even though I am successful (if you measure how much income I make) I am miserable and can hardly function.
With ADHD, your dopamine is on a lower baseline. This makes you seek out dopamine. This is why the stimulant actually chills you, you can be content with the present moment and what you are currently doing
Long time sub. I'm working through a later in life diagnosis with ADHD as well. I'm 33, fairly successful, and have been a master of masking it. I'm only now starting to really explore and try to treat it. Thank you for using your platform to discuss this. It affects so many people, and they are oblivious or in denial of it. Great content!
Thanks for the video, its cool to see that you were looking at similar people on the internet to find out about ADHD and diagnosis :)
Thanks for posting this. I've been able to cope with these symptoms all of my life. I've generally done well in school and career, but I retired this year, and without the structure of a work week and deadlines, I find that I am really struggling to get anything accomplished. My wife is getting frustrated with me, and my anxiety is through the roof. At almost 65 years old, it might seem a little late, but this discussion has given me the inspiration to at least talk to someone. Again, thank you so much!
Just remember a LOT of professionals are trained to medicate you on stuff that doesn't necessarily work for you but makes pharma more money
Read as MUCH as you can, ask as many questions as possible, and make sure to have your wife go with you to everything or at the very least cover everything talked about at your visits when you get home.
If there is one thing I have learned in life it's that we will ALWAYS miss important questions as we are only human, so make sure to bounce stuff off someone else and see the questions they can come up with that you missed
@@victorkreig6089 Great advice! 👍
I was about to go to the Dr. to get a script for a stimulant but I finally decided to give the carnivore diet a try, high fat, medium protein, practically zero carb. It has only been two weeks but I am a completely different person so much so that my wife is still trying to process the changes. I decided to try this ultimate elimination diet because I have been practically disabled and bedridden at times. I was diagnosed a little over a decade ago at the mere age of 24, first with chronic fatigue, then fibromyalgia which then led to MANY other issues including piss poor hormonal imbalances and extremely low testosterone (tested MANY times, always falling between 160-240 ng/dl). Before my sickness, I looked to be in great shape, with some very respectable #'s in the gym including a 245# seated military press for like 5-6 reps. Prior to being given a title for my sickness, I was advised to do the same basics we hear all of the time. With the diagnosis of an autoimmune disease in which they decide you have based on symptoms alone, it opens up the flood gates to so called "treatments" and other big pharma experiments, pills injections, nerve blockage and ablasions, etc, etc, etc. I have wasted well over 100 thousand dollars over the years in Dr's visits, specialists, medications, and other treatments. I have spent at least 10-15k in supplements alone over the past decade in which 99% of them did little to no good, some even caused more issues.
Not trying to rant for too long but wanted to give anyone reading another possible option in their arsenal of building a happy healthy and functional body. I doubt I will be zero to low carb for more than a few months but I will continue until most symptoms/issues have gone AWOL and energy levels, motivation, and attention span stay peaked. Then I will add back in fruits, possibly some dairy if my body and mind can handle it without any symptoms. I'll eventually play around with some homemade sourdough bread (no preservatives/other junk and no sugar in sourdough bread) to see how it will sit with me and then of course play around with some simple carbs around the times of strenuous workouts, again when and if it works for me. I can go into way more detail if anyone is interested, just ask.
Last thing, over the past decade the one thing I did that flipped everything around was an extended fast I did back in 2017, I booked an airbnb by the beach for a month and walked/exercised daily, water fasted roughly 18 out of the 30 days I was there and ate one meal a day (steak/eggs) for the remaining 12 days. I lost 33 pounds in that one month, pain decreased by about 85%, depression gone, anxiety decreased by 95% and so on. It was also the first time in my life I had a legit ripped six pack. I came back from that month and I'll never forget the looks and feedback I got. They couldn't even believe how different I looked in such a short period of time. After I got back, I was so motivated and felt practically invincible... but after a few months, little by little, everything returned, it happens so slow its hard to get ahead of and see the full picture of what is happening. For years after that, I felt hopeless, spent most of the day in bed and the knowledge that I could feel better if I could just not eat loomed over me. I knew that the food I was eating was causing me to feel like I was "consciously dead". I then learned about all of the plant toxins, oxalates/lectins/cyanogenic glycosides and so on that are in nearly EVERY plant. These are natural toxins in the plant/vegetable in order to protect itself from predators as it cannot flee... obviously. I never knew about this and I also VASTLY underestimated the importance of animal fats/butter for healthy hormones and a healthy mind. I feel the amazing benefits from when I fasted years ago except this is a million times easier. I'm eating as much fat as I can with a healthy amount of protein and I'm not even trying to diet, yet I still lost 5 pounds the first week (mostly water) and 3 more pounds this week. I feel alive for the first time in years and I just wanted to share that excitement with anyone else who understands where I'm coming from and is looking for something that works 🙂
Genuine question: Do you really think that after having a lifetime of success academically, professionally, and probably personally, you discovered at age 65 that you have a mental disorder rooted in your physical brain that doesn't allow you to focus and pay attention to get things done? Or is it more likely that you've just experienced a major life change and are just having some difficulty and taking some time to adjust to the change?
@@utah_koidragon7117 Good question, and one which I have thought quite a bit about. I remember when I was 6 or 7 my mom took me to a child psychologist because I couldn’t make it through dinner without getting up and wandering around. My teachers reported similar behavior in class. I would get up and bother other students when we were supposed to be working independently. In those days, ADHD wasn’t really a thing, so I was labeled a hyperactive child and would most likely grow out of it, and in the meantime, discipline, structure, and routine was recommended. And, for the most part, those strategies served me well. It wasn’t until I lived with my stepson who had a very positive diagnosis of ADHD that I began to see very familiar and relatable behavior. Although you are correct that a major life change is definitely a strong contributor to the way I’m currently feeling, I can’t help but think there’s more to it.
Never too late, and 65 is the new 45, you've got a lot of life left to live, a lot you can still do, and if it's impacting your relationships, it's definitely worth talking to a medical professional.
I got diagnosed at 27 (had aspbergers my whole life). I took a slow acting adhd medication and it was night and day for me. I'd say off the bat, your speech seems increased like mine was when on it. I could remember details and things I needed to do, I felt alive and happy and energetic. Sadly been off them for 2 years now due to long waiting lists to see psychiatrists to get prescribed (Australia is very strict with amlhetamines). So my life has sort of taken a spiral.
Glad you got the help you need, I always explain to people that it makes life night and day, your brain which was once static CRT monitor is now 4k ultra.
I got diagnosed as aspergers 2years ago too(28 now)
Despite being suspected to have adhd from different clinicians because of concentration problems it was very good explained because of persistent major depressive disorder, childhood trauma and long duration psychosis during adolescence.
From the last too years i made such big improvement in life. I can certainly concentrate better, but it stagnated.
What kind of low dose medication do you take?
I dont want to take Amphetamine per se because i could relapse in psychotic symptoms. I would certainly discuss this with my clinicians.
NOT TO BE that GUY, BUT CRTs were steadily hitting 2K and sometimes even 4K when we started making the change away from them.
Hope your evil government stops raw dogging you and lets you get on with your life
Just start self medicating with meth or speed. It's better to do that than to let your life spiral. I had to do that because doctors wouldn't give me the time of day. Eventually I got so frustrated I said fuck it and took matters into my own hands. Also did the same with testosterone, and glad I did. Fuck stingy doctors.
Really glad to hear you got diagnosed and are responding well to the medication. I went undiagnosed for years as an adult, and specifically during my college/university years, I thought I just didn't study properly and everyone told me I just needed to work harder. Once I got diagnosed and on meds years later, I realized it was the untreated ADHD which made everything so hard.
ADHD meds are a trip, man. I contribute my main reason for being a skinny "hardgainer" to Ritalin. Used to take that stuff for a little while in my developmental years, one of the symptoms being a very reduced appetite. I stopped with the meds but my eating habits remained as they were.
Considering trying them again as my academics are in trouble now, but its hard to pick between that increased performance and decreased appetite. Thanks for this video man, its refreshing to see this in a world where people are quick to dismiss ADHD as being "fake"
Damn you have literally the exact same experience as me!
I'd say try a different med. I find amphetamine based medications are better for me as I don't notice any issues with appetite etc. With Ritalin it's definitely effective at managing symptoms but it does reduce my appetite. Having said that I do still get in enough food as I'm just so used to eating a good 6 meals per day.
@@andrewdavies2640 im keen on trying Adderall instead of Ritalin soon but funnily enough because of my ADHD i just havent gotten around to making an appointment
Im on a pretty low dose ritalin and it does impact the appetite quite a bit. I always take it after breakfast and after afternoon snack so I can be sure to put some calories in. I also switched to more calorie dense foods (right now putting peanut butter or olive oil in almost every meal).
I take the meds in the morning after a big breakfast, then in the early afternoon, and i don't feel the need for lunch or snack. When the meds wear off in the evening I eat at dinner, and I allow myself a big proteinated snack before bed, with the appetite and to equate calories and macros.
Woah this is a trip. Found your page from your body standards video. Been in the bodybuilding/hypertrophy training sphere for a while and just six months ago at the age of 27 got diagnosed with ADHD. Been on vyvannce for about a month and its been life changing. Weird finding such a relatable video.
Glad to hear someone like you, who I look up to have a similar issue and tackle it in the same way I do. Started ADHD meds two months ago after being diagnosed at age 22. Can say, never been more happy with productivity and with being more responsible with my time.
First off, I'm really enjoying these "off topic" videos of your's.
As someone who does NOT have ADHD, it really does sound like you experienced normal function. It reminds me of pre vs post-trt, realizing just how powerful NORMAL can be.
Also reminded me of a concept/theory connecting ADHD and autism I learned of recently of monotropism vs polytropism. Basically, a "normal" brain like mine is polytropic and can easily switch focuses and has lots of room to have things held loosely in focus. The more monotropic, the more "tunnel vision". Hence, a lot of your ADHD experience, where I new thought hijacks and fully encompasses your focus without any room for even REMEMBERING what came before. People who are autistic can even find it physically distressing to change focus or have anything unpredictable happen, but love the comfort of hyper focusing one one singular thing (extreme tunnel vision that's super comforting but physically/mentally painful to change)
I might have butchered that explanation, but I tried.
Anyway, I hope you keep doing well and look forward to what other topics you cover!
Vyvanse is a game changer. Without it, I'm disorganized, I'm argumentative, and I can't stay on task. I can not imagine life without it.
hi -how long have you been on it and did the dose change? thanks
@@pardipdev6803 I've been on it since 2020. My dose is maxed out. It's the appropriate dose for me, I'm very large, and I have been on ADHD meds on and off since 95'
@pardipdev6803 been on it since 95, well, Ritalin first, followed by Adderall, etc. but I did have a period of years without. I have been on Vyvanse since 2020. I currently take the max dose of 70mg. My quality of life has VASTLY improved. It's helped me in both my career and in my relationships, but also in my motivation to get shit done.
@pardipdev6803 since 95. Vyvanse since 2020. I'm on 70mg
Bro, quitting my ADHD medication after about a year's usage, as a 31-year old, has been waaaay rougher than breaking my amphetamine addiction 6 years ago, or breaking my smoking addiction.
Fuck me but it is brutal, and I mean IS, because I'm still deep in the hole from quitting that shit. And it was a slow wind-down, not cold turkey!
Be interested in how harder amphetamine use affects the effictiveness of ADHD meds in the first place. What made you want to kick the meds?
@@AlexanderBromley well it was 'only' a seven-month run of about 300mg of amp per day towards the end. And regular amp, not meth. And again, over half a decade ago.
Coupled with the fact that the medication I was prescribed was Strattera, officially the weakest of all ADHD medication, I dunno. I don't really FEEL like my previous addiction affected the effectiveness of the meds.
It's worth noting that I drink 400mg of caffeine and consume... I dunno, 20+mg of nicotine gums per day, I think those would have a higher impact.
Besides, I did feel a lot of effects from the medication in the beginning. Which ties into
Why I quit:
1. Tolerance. After ramping up for six months and cruising for another six, I no longer feel any effects from the medication. I do however feel a massive negative effect when I forget to take it, or forget to renew my prescription on time... Which, hey, I have freaking adhd, of course that happens.
2. It blew up my blood pressure from 125/85 to 160/105, which had to be balanced out by other medications, that had annoying side effects. And again, if I ran out? Fucking anguish.
3. I hate feeling like I have to take more pills at 31 than my freaking gramps.
4. I feel like nicotine gums are the perfect solution: all the focus benefits of smoking without the ruined lunges. And yes, I did smoke before, but fun fact: the good BP was as a chain smoking 500mg per week test user. So neither test nor smoking are a blip on the radar compared to the fucking meds.
So uh, yeah, fuck the meds. It's better just to go balls deep in finding strategies to handle it. Also weed, it worked amazing until the cops showed up. I was focused, productive, creative and could sleep well. At least cbd oil is legal and helps a little bit.
But dude, most adhd meds ARE amphetamines
100%. Getting off those meds are no joke. It’s why I don’t take them
@@dustyhayes9569good call man. Stick to the safe stuff, like meth and heroin ;p
Man. I’m 28 and I suffer from a lot of these same things that makes it hard to be consistent in my life with certain things. This video gave me hope that seeking help can offer relief and stability. Thanks for posting this, Alex
I was diagnosed with ADHD at 35, I’m 38 and I can say the Ritalin has helped me a lot. ADHD is no joke. Very misunderstood.
I'm surprised they're still prescribing people ritalin. I feel like I'm the only person I know with ADHD on ritalin (diagnosed back in 2003)
@@SomethingCool51 Why are you surprised?
@@RichRobinsonEverybody is taking adderall or vyvanse these days
I was diagnosed at around 7 with a sever case. Was treated for about a year. My grades went from Cs to As. My mom got worried about the med and took me off. I struggled until I was 34, when I finally went to get a diagnosis again. Now I am on Adderall, and it has helped me in a lot of areas. I've been on it now for about a year.
I can't believe I made it through college with a ME degree. I was self medicating with a lot of caffeine. I think the structure of college was actually better for me than office work as an engineer. The deadlines were clear, as was the expectations. With work those things were a lot more gray, and I really struggled to accomplish things.
@@benpeterson7530Are you still doing engineering work? Curious if you had to find any coping techniques/tips for engineering work (recent EE grad here).
This video almost made me cry when I saw it. I have been weighttraining for a couple years and have been watching your videos and learning a lot from you. I'm an overweight 36 y/o guy and I identify with you over your story of being overweight when you were younger, and even some of your shares in recent videos about your desire to loose weight. Now I see this - I am having my own struggles with attention as I am trying to make my life work better. I have felt so much better mentally from lifting weights, now I am thinking that getting these issues around attention looked at / diagnosed will be the next step in living a more optimal life. Thanks for sharing this!
Unexpected to meet this in your channel. I have not gone here to hear about ADHD, and I have been impressed with your take and presentation of training and lifting matters. I highly appreciate this aspect of you channel as well and am happy that your new steps seem to help you! Well done! I will get back to your channel with a new and broader view of what you bring to the table. All the best!
I had many of the same symptoms described by the host and commenters. I was the guy with "potential " who needed to get organized , apply myself , focused. I was a self-medicating mediocre employee , an unreliable friend , and the father most likely to be late to any function. It was not until my late 40's when I was diagnosed with ADHD and prescribed Vyvanse that my life changed. My job turned into a career , my relationships improved, and for the first time in life I was able to set and stay focused on a goal long enough to achieve it. I know this isn’t the answer for everyone but if you struggle with any of the symptoms described in this video discuss them with medical professional . It could change your life.
Thanks so much for this. I'm waiting for the diagnosis process (long waiting list here in Iceland) at almost 42 years old, and I can relate to everything you're talking about. I've done OK for myself, but my head hasn't always made it easy. Love this video.
I'm going to be professionally evaluated for ADHD soon. I've had symptoms my whole life but it's difficult to get a good psychiatrist in my country. I resonated so much with your experiences that I actually got teary eyed, I never expected this type of video from you but it sure is a welcome surprise! Really glad to see you get help.
Great video as my son has ADHD and at 11 it’s hard for me to understand just how he feels or thinks but you have made it that little bit easier. But also he likes to watch adult guys talk about their ADHD as he gains confidence he isn’t “broken” and can grow up to be successful
He aint broken, just didn't cook long enough in the oven
If his adhd isn't severe than most likely his perception in general isn't much different than yours but is more easily summed up as everyone has a computer console they use to input their actions in life and his just so happens to be in 4 different languages on random keys and he can only read 1 and a half of them. It's not that he can't it just takes 3 times as much effort to do the same stuff as a normal person does. However, that also means he can see things in ways that other people can't as well so it isn't all one sided
I was diagnosed with a neurological disorder last year myself. It’s a weird thing being 35 and getting something you’ve always struggled with, in both big and small ways, labeled as something. But it brought me a lot of relief. It’s ok that I struggle with X or that Y feels impossible to me. If there were a medication for it I’m not sure I’d consider it. That’s a tough call but glad it seems to be working out for you.
Not trying to rain on your parade but a lot of people get basically euphoric in the first few months and then sort of go back towards baseline, which is one of the reasons I've been afraid to pursue it. Would love an update in 6 months or a year
I don’t know if it’s ADHD, but sometimes I have trouble processing what someone is saying. My mind like you said wanders during conversation, or I’m trying to pay attention so hard when someone’s talking that I’ll focus on focusing, not what they’re saying.
I had to take it in Med school I had a kid and wife it was a god send. I was diagnosed when I was 12 my mother was anti drug so we did cognitive therapy, which worked. But I was dipping drinking a lot of coffee and using a lot of pre-workout to be able to study, and I had to wear headphones and drown out with the noise with music so i could focus. Having a 2 year old clinicals lack of sleep made it near impossible for me to sit down. I had restless leg syndrome. Once I started my meds I can sit down do my notes. I actually sat down for my boards and was able to sit and take the exam. For me that was what made the Mcat and step one so hard I couldn’t sit down in front of the computer to take the exam. The Ironic part is that a lot of people that do have adhd self medication anyhow with stimulants anyhow. The cool part is in the gym I’ve felt that I’m able to work more efficiently and more focus while in the gym.
did your dose have to keep going up or have you maintained a stable dose (and for how long)-thank you
Self-DXed at 44, started lifting 4 months ago at 47. Love you for posting this, homie. Vyvanse is the truth. Thanks for advocating on behalf of the tribe.
I came to the conclusion I have ADHD literally this week, and every video I watch about it just strikes more and more chords with me - the thing about earworms totally resonates with me, as I'll just find myself getting various songs stuck in my head all of a sudden for ages. I've also had folk getting on at me for my poor memory my entire life, and the thing you said about interviewing someone and then realising you hadn't taken in a thing they said - yep, totally. As does the thing about only having two slots of working memory.
I'm a long way from getting a professional diagnosis (I'm also awaiting a diagnosis for autism, and that's not going to happen for about two years), but even when I do, I worry that medication might change who I am. I quite like myself, and in recent years in particular, I've grown to accept even my faults as just being who I am.
That said, when I realised I had autism, suddenly I realised that so many of the issues that have ruined previous relationships are probably because of that, and now that I'm learning about ADHD, I see that it might have had an impact as well. So maybe I need to at least try it out and see what happens. Maybe it'll turn me into some superbrain genius.
It's almost painful how relatable everything I heard from you was and I'm also insanely depressed. Perhaps it's really time to get the treatment.
Get help either way. It's extremely easy these days; you can find psychs online to do remote sessions. There are too many tools available to make yourself live life that way.
@@AlexanderBromley Thanks for a great and informative video, it's a bit more difficult in my country, actual drugs aren't that accessible and are insanely expensive, so I guess we'll have to work with what we have, mainly behavioral therapy, psychotherapy and simply working on some good habits, that's what people should begin with anyways.
@@sambasedsamurai9338which country are you from, if you don't mind.
Thank you for sharing your story. This will have a real and positive impact.
The reduction in injury, depression, suicide, and death along w long term achievement is so huge.
Thanks for this testimony.
Late diagnostic here too, finally able to get into the line of work I was looking for and bring security to my family. Not on meds every day, but I use it periodicaly when needed. Also with the minimal efficient dose.
Thanks for sharing your experience
Idk i took concerta 18mg after i was diagnosed and it didnt feel like medicine it felt like i was on drugs, the laser focus was crazy and the “noise” inside my head was practically gone, but i slept awful and lost a lot of weight so i got off it and never really gave stimulants another chance, but i managed to get a lot more structure into my life and im doing pretty well in chemical engineering atm but thats just my two cents
People can have different reactions to medications than others, a lot of the time you have to try a couple things before finding what works for you
So many young kids are being affected/diagnosed by ADHD nowadays. Glad you posted this.
I feel like more kids are negatively affected being prescribed ADHD medication than anything else.
@@CO_Hart2a lot of kids aren't diagnosed due to not being hyperactive and being quiet and "well-behaved", yet adults will assume kids that can't sit still for six hours are broken
@@CO_Hart2 Is this based off of a contrarian hunge or do you have actual statistics to back this up?
Almost like there's something in the food
So cool to see you talk about this; it's like you're describing me before I started Vyvanse two years ago. Congrats!
Thanks for sharing Bromley. I was diagnosed right before the hardest year of my nursing program. It has definitely helped, but is not a cure all for academic struggles. I still have to work my ass off, and even have to retake my hardest class (ICU) this quarter.
Happy for you that you got that sorted out.
I got many of the same Symptoms. When in conversations i try to speak the words of the other person in my head, that my mind dont wander around
Can I be real man? Hearing you talk about your experience with procrastination and anxiety was really cool. Seeing a big dude with his life together admit to the same things I experience, the things that make me feel small and lesser, means a hell of a lot.
Thank you for talking about this
I think you were pretty fair. I've overacted every negative diagnosis through patterning my life differently and resisting indulgences. I can't even say what exactly is being mentally healthy other than having a pretty good handle on practical life and not being a total slave to emotions. What is the perfect example of best and truly good in terms of 'mental health' this is unclear to everyone if you ask me, although it would be nice to know what we ought to be like in the world..
The standard for 'mental health' is so generalized and debated.. if practicality is the most important then what's 'truly successful' is also too complex to be sure of what someone ought to have done accomplished already (by whatever age brackets) because of where they've built up from and what specific challenges they're currently undergoing.
I think what's most crucial to know one's having a good life, which is what one ought to make their ultimate standard, asking questions like "are you typically enjoying things or at least what you're bearing isn't bringing you down?" "are you trying to get better at doing things despite aging?" "are you not negatively affecting others?" "are you providing the bare minimum and striving to save for security reasons or even beyond survival and already thriving?"
These ought to be the thoughts rather than "I can be "fixed" by this exogenous chemical or even this external meeting with a person"
Agree with all of this. And I feel that I was in a unique position to define those things and make a decision accordingly. One of the reasons I don't want to sell out to "listen to your psych and don't worry about it" is because I don't think I would be here if I prioritized "fixes". When we use tools more, we expect less effort so we disengage. Goalposts move and standards change, so being present and responsible in the fave of that is crucial
Everything you said about your experience is so relatable. I’ve been putting off getting diagnosed despite people around me telling me my mental would improve so much more(that and I procrastinate on scheduling an appointment and then I forget lol). I think this vid will give me that final push to help myself.
Been taking Concerta for about 15 years, got through college with it. It felt like a super student drug though, and now I'm off it for a bit (experimenting) and I'm functioning pretty well (but I don't have a lot of stresses at work yet, so we'll see once work picks up). Definitely very helpful, but I much prefer being able to function without using drugs to pick up the slack.
I recently was diagnosed with adhd and autism. The autism makes me obsessed with one thing for a certain length of time, and the adhd makes me repeat the same thought over and over because ideas don't stick in my head
Similar elements have been part of my life. It wasn't until i had another emptional crisis in my 30s where i realized i needed help.
I have ADHD. I was on meds for a few years then got off of them. The biggest issue I have with the medicine is they cause your brain to depend on them so heavily that when you stop taking them your ADHD is a million times worse. It took me a year to finally feel better and I still do have to take some supplements which I’ve found to be helpful.
I think I have ADHD because I get really anxious and jump between tasks 24/7. I am also a gym addict because lifting weights is a great way to shut my brain down and stop thinking. Sometimes it gets so bad that I depersonalise and get lost in my own head and everything feels like a dream state, but I am afraid to get a diagnosis because of how much medical bills are in the USA. I just want my life to slow down again. Meditating has been a great help like that, but I am starting to realise that I cannot behave like the high-functioning person I want to be because I begin to space out after several days of work.
Nice that you're citing Dr K, he has helped me so much
The procrastination element of ADHD is the most difficult to understand both as an outsider and also seemingly for people with ADHD
Man, this makes me want to look at getting diagnosed again. During my PhD, I thought that this might be an issue. I have a lot of the signs you mentioned. So I talked to a psychiatrist at the school about it and they asked about my experience in undergrad. I said I didn't take notes in class, but I did fine. They said there was no way I had ADHD. It wasn't satisfactory at the time, but I went on with my day. Like you, I've managed to do fine without any medication and I use caffeine to help focus a lot of the time. I could definitely use more help focusing, though. I mean, I'm watching RUclips at work right now...
If you are smart enough you will just brute force through school (same with me). It's about the sum of the experiences. If you feel like the stuff in the video sounds like you it's definitely worth to check if its ADHD.
Been considering testing for this because my attention span is awful. Totally relate to the ear worms thing. Christmas jingles have gotten so stuck in my head I fully thought I was losing my mind haha
as someone with ADHD this feels very much like my own experience. Great to hear someone talking about it
Thanks Mr Bromley
I'm very skeptical when it comes to thinking I have the symptoms of an illness or something because I watch a video or read about it, but after watching this and seeing my whole bookshelf filled with half-read books..... I think I might need to consider some possibilities.
DO NOT MEDICATE FOR ADHD IF YOU LEARN TO BE PRODUCTIVE WITHOUT IT!!!!! I was diagnosed at 15 and was put on pills... They kept upping the dose until I was suicidal, irritable, and not eating anything. I got off at 17 and have had a more productive life ever since, because instead of medication, I learned and trained myself to live with it.
You just described me as a child. I’m 66 so ADD was not a recognized malady then to my knowledge. Thanks for sharing this.
I appreciate the hell out of this video. One Thing I struggled with while on meds is that it kills my appetite. Did you or anyone have this issue and how did you make sure you're eating enough while working out?
I’ve quit concerta a few days ago, prolonged use ain’t great. Haven’t you felt better on gear? Test does up the dopamine
Is there some documented issue with long term use? I feel like people intuitively think it's not great, but there doesn't seem to be any research supporting that.
No, test didn't have an effect. HIgh doses with other compounds around contest time arguably made it worse.
There's a saying, "Fuck Around and Find Out." You only have one brain my friends. Understand that messing with your nervous system using a PED with a stimulant medication may come with a price. One you may not be prepared to pay.
I'm 34 and have my ADHD assessment booked in few weeks time. So many behaviors that were normalised to me, pointed out as ADHD symptoms by my partner. I'm hoping makes certain aspects of my life more manageable.
Vyvanse (50mg dose) definitely does start to wear off after 7-8pm if I take it around 9-10am but I've been taking it for 4-5 years so my body has adapted to it and I can fall asleep with it now as well (But I'm one of those people who can fall asleep wherever whenever)
constantly reading from very well spoken people that ADHD is not real and it's just boys being boys absolutely annoys the sht out of me, as a going to be Psychologist with a little bit of neuroscience experience under my belt. there is so much hard proof with fMRI that shows brain activity is quite different from people that do not struggle with the symptoms - it's not broken, but it's different and at the point where those symptoms become unbearable to live with it is absolutely reasonable to look into pharmaceutical treatment to level the playing field and shaming those people that actually have the guts to get the help they need to perform is just absolute bs. yes effect sizes in Psychology are always kind of vague and weak in comparison to harder research sciences in the STEM field, but that does in no way shape or form mean that we're just pumping kids full of drugs to see if it helps or not. but profound criticism of that topic is always appreciated (e.g. the SSRI example, we don't fully understand why it works but it somehow works after a while for a while at least), but stigmatizing those that actually take their problems seriously and seek help is just stupid and enrages me greatly. appreciate you sharing your two cents on the topic here, brutally honest anecdotal evidence is very much needed in these trying times of mental health TikTok scams!
There is a war on men and has been for over a century, because if we get put into a cage then there is only women left and they're extremely emotional creatures and easy to manipulate
Such an interesting experience (your "signs I ignored") - I can't relate to any of these, apart from procrastination, so it's fascinating to hear that many people suffer like this
Treating my ADHD only with lifestyle currently, was diagnosed finally as an ABD PhD candidate in 2012, was suffering with a MDD episode and that was what got me into the psychiatrist to find all that out, took ritalin and anti-depressants for a short while there, but have always wondered about the other ADHD meds out there...
Oh man, I'm an Aspergers kid, but there's so much of me in that description. Brain just can't shut up.
Got my diagnosis a few weeks ago at 23. Had all the same symptoms you do - and I'm almost not surprised. The internet selects for people with ADHD very strongly due to the immediate nature of platforms like youtube, reddit etc. Everybody that's chronically online's got adhd, it's kinda creepy. All your friends too.
Being chronically online is not a symptom of ADHD. While people with ADHD are more likely to engage in activities that are short in duration/quickly rewarding, you can absolutely have ADHD without any access to the internet OR be chronically online and not have ADHD.
Edit: But I do agree that platforms absolutely do try take advantage of people who suffer from ADHD or other conditions that make controlling behavior highly difficult.
@@DObscura-yi5es Not what he's saying, internet addiction gives you the same symptoms that adhd does
Can square it any way you want but that's the reality of it
@@victorkreig6089 That is nowhere in the discussion. 🤦🏽
Btw I'm glad you got your diagnosis @Blackdiamond2, it's a pain in the ass to live with - especially without treatment.
I'll say one thing about adhd meds. The stimulants make me stronger and able to push myself harder for longer, but they make bulking difficult because of the effects on appetite.
Fantastic video, I also have adhd and the difference between when I take the medication and when I don't is like night and day. Within 15 minutes I can feel its effects like brain circuits are being switched on that I can't tell were off because they were switched off. My ability to play chess, read, write, organise my life, all of it is hugely improved. When I was doing my Masters Degree and I tried for months to do it without the medication I just could not visualise the overall gestalt or direction that the essay needed to take. I couldn't see it or visualise it, I start taking the medication and within hours I have an idea of the beginning, middle and end and how the whole essay meaningfully and coherently fits together into a combined whole. I tried for weeks without it and couldn't manage it. As well Psylocybin can work wonders if used with the correct mindset and setting.
Thanks for sharing your experience, being an adult with ADHD myself I can confirm, fucking sucks until you start using meds
Was diagnosed at 19. ADHD unmedicated is a bitch, now rocking it on concerta glad you found something that works. It is night and day
A video like this is a great addition to your already highquality video content Alex! 👍🏼👍🏼
I am 37 and struggled with this my entire life on top of many other factors that actually had me believing it was not ADHD. But Vyvanse has changed my life for sure.I tried Rittilian (methylphenidate) for a while but it was not as good.
I have pretty much every symptom you had, but I got tested for memory issues and ADHD but they said I didn't have it because I was able to function in the clinical setting, as my focus wasn't elsewhere, it was easy to focus on the tests at the doctor's office.
Every single thing you say about your experience with ADHD is like listening to myself. I'm going to have to go back to the doctor's and push harder, because I also didn't want to take medications as I had only know about the shorter form meds, but if this medication is longer form, I want to see the effects, as my life is in a standstill because I'm unable to push forwards.
This is all so familiar. I really need help, but the NHS in the UK has a two year waiting list and of course I've been procrastinating getting on it, because two years is "later" and I've so much to do "now."
I haven’t been diagnosed with ADHD but I have tried both medication you mentioned. The first time I took Adderall I fell asleep. Vyvanse didn’t make me sleep but it also didn’t feel like an improvement. My symptoms seem to point to Cyclothemia. Unfortunately when I started going to my mental health clinic I thought my prescribing physician would be a psychiatrist and I was wrong. The best I’ve felt was micro-dosing psilocybin and that was only for two weeks. It’s not easy to find where I live so unfortunately I wasn’t able to continue. I want to use it again and hopefully replace the Klonopin I am currently prescribed.
I was diagnosed as a kid but i doubted it until i went back on simulants as an adult and took an afternoon nap for the first time in 20 years after my first dose lol😂
Life went on easy mode after I'd spent so long unmedicated.
Great piece. I have had a few opportunities to listen to & learn about the ins/outs and whys of ADHD, but for some reason I never chose to actually listen & learn until some youtube dude -- to whom I subscribe for his insightful takes on strength training & life -- decided to talk about it from the adult perspective. Of course, like many of your listeners, I probably tried to apply some of your insights & thoughts to inform a "self-diagnosis" of this condition in myself. . . safe to say that I don't appear to exhibit any of the signs. Then why would I listen to this and why would I try to self-diagnosis: because, in the game of re-productive life, the apple can't fall very far from the tree (or can it?). My kid (female; teenager now) was diagnosed with ADHD a few years ago and, though I've funded her meds and her psyche visits, I never really thought about how ffff'd up things could be without that diagnosis and without that treatment. Your take on things from the diagnosed-adult perspective brought me around on that; so thank you very much.
The way you described incidents in your childhood (especially teen/pre-teen years) and how things went in school and social life; damn, that stuff was like the male version of what I saw (and still see; but much less frequently these days) with my daughter. Again, these far-from-strength-training pieces of yours are quite solid, insightful, well done, and useful.
Nah these ARE strength training vids, your body isn't the only thing that must be strong in life
@18:20 "taller for my height" 😂😂 ...This video really helps thank you
I really love that phrasing of "going with the brakes on"
I have adhd and I take my medication at 7am every week day to help focus on school, unfortunately it’s supposed to last 6 hours and only lasts about 3-4
My mind keeps wandering during sets and it messes up my reps count. It usually happens when i see scantily clad girls during the set, so a bit unsure if it's my mind or eyes wandering off...
100 relatable. GREAT video.
Got diagnosed around 17, just turned 19. Haven't watched the video yet. But one thing i've noticed is that i feel stronger in the gym when i've taken my meds. I would assume it has to do with maybe being more focused, or feeling more awake than normally. Other than that im still unsure how much the meds help me.
I got diagnosed late in life too. I take Vyvanse at morning and noon. It helps man.
Mike Mentzer's Preworkout is the real deal.
I find this type of discussion extremely interesting and even more engaging than the lifting. You need a second channel to stretch your range.
I was always told it makes people feel slow, but… I only feel more intelligent on Wellbutrin as im usually just so distracted. Its nice seeing your journey as well
alex b.- i want to know how to work out with weights while on adderrall/vyvanse because i "think" that these stimulants are drying me out to where i get multiple strains and tweaks with muscles, ligaments, and joints, it's been giving me great results with everyday life until i actually exert my self with either weights or just harder chores around the house. vyvanse is smoother than the adderrall on my body physically but i have to take the adderrall to kick start everything or else it takes a half day for the vyvanse to kick in or not work, kinda like an old carbureted engine that needs starter fluid to get it running. lol. i want to know if the stimulant is drying you out during your workouts to get small strains and pains. thanks. congrats with your diagnosis and wish the best for you. btw- i drink around 100 ounces of water per day at 195lbs..
Thanks for posting. Yep you can mask it pretty well and don't be that stereotypical hyperactive brat. I was diagnosed at 29 with prior attempts to treat anxiety / depression, that mainly did not help. I was always mixed, kinda bright, kinda dumb. I just understood stuff, but just could not focus on stuff I found boring or confusing. I achieved nothing academically; I was praised in all jobs and then rage-quit most of them.
I can sleep like a baby after Ritalin. It helps a lot, but if you built lots of maladaptive behaviour over the years, there is lot to learn and unlearn. Also at higher doses I kinda don't feel like myself, that sudden strange lack of emotional rollercoaster. At lower doses it does not help as much.
My ADHD symptoms are greatly reduced when I go keto/carnivore.
Did you lose any strength once starting the medication?
I'm 49 and have been referred by my doctor for an ADHD assessment, I'm on a long waiting list for that here in the UK. Hadn't consider it before until we were looking into an assessment for our teenage daughter and that's what lead me to realise. Two of my nephews have ADHD and one of them also has Asperger's. I'm interested in medication but also worry I could lose aspects of my personality and sense of self if I dial down too much, if that makes sense. Have you ever found ADHD to impact on your comp performances or mindset? I compete at novce level but struggle with nerves and overreacting to poor events or lower placings etc.
I’m pretty sure I ADHD, I used and abused Riddlen in college and it felt like my mind was so sharp I could see through walls. I used them mostly around exams so I could do amazing on tests. Unfortunately there are consequences for using that stuff like loss of appetite or inability to sleep so I had to time when was the best time to used them. I haven’t used them for years as I hated the negative effects far more than liking the positive effects. It is definitely a great drug for crunch time when you need a high horse power brain but it can drain the hell out of you when you are coming off of them. I’m glad they exist, they are extremely useful but I stay away from them unless I really need them.
After hearing the signs I ignored section I think I and every guy I've ever known has it.
Damn, guys. Be careful with the drug use. The honeymoon phase doesnt last long and you end up worse off in the end, more often than not.
There's way too much shit i want to say on this. It would take an essay.
Dont rely on the meds, Bromley. I see they work well for you (they work wonders for my adhd ass too) and i know you aint askin, but take the lowest dose as infrequently as possible. Like fewest days of the week. Only the busiest.
Many end up on the higher doses and need it to function at what would have been their previous baseline w/o ever using meds. They are left with nothing but the shitty side effects. Side effects that are not as apparent on low doses or early on in treatment. At this point, stopping is incredibly difficult. In many instances, the dopamine deficit resulting from cecession after long term use of the moderate and higher doses (that many inevitibly end up on) can be quite devastating.
Personal antidote: most days, I have the urge to use my meds, but I hardly take them. A tool in the toolbox, sure. They were the tits for alittle while, but surely enough, things changed. Too often, I dont feel like a good version of myself when I use them now. A piece of my soul is missing. An important piece that myself and the people around me rely on. Yet the urge to take them, nearly every single day, remains. And when it is all said and done, it seems that im more productive overall when im off them at this point. This is not uncommon.
Yall do with that what you will.
But drugs can work pretty well if you hardly ever do them in the first place soooooo low dose, low frequency, and always remember, your doctor probably doesnt know shit.
Haha aaaand this novel was brought to you byyyy, adhd.
How long did it take you to write this?
@@victorkreig6089 took roughly the uber ride back from your mom's house. 15 min, give or take
@@rustyshackle4rd yeah you definitely have autism
I too have ADHD, and ive tried many meds before getting the one that worked. Vyvanse did gave me a little boost, but this one made me extremely angry and dangerous, the same as Dexedrine. The one that worked for me was concerta (derivatives from ritalin).
The first time I took dexedrine, man I was Dr Manatan... "If only you could perceive time as I do..."
My proms are much worse and I some how made it through school but in my last year of college. Seems the older I get the worse it gets, just sent for the test. Hopefully I’m prescribed, my life is unnecessarily way harder and has been due to all the symptoms from it. Hopefully this can get on the right track.
Help? I injured my Lower back at work like 20 years ago & have bad chronic pain daily. I don't wanna go back on opiods & none of the procedures on my back have worked.
Is it possible to rehab/strengthen the muscles in my back through weight training & lessen my pain???
I have pinched nerves, bulging disc's & an anticular tear or some shit but I have been working with a single # of dumbells & doing pushups for 6 months (dont have any other lifting equipment yet unfortunately) but have toned up in the arms & chest & lost 30+lbs mostly in the belly which is highly motivating.
Second question should I incorporate daily stretching for my lower back? Any suggestions or am I destined to live in pain forever.
I wanna improve my pain not make it worse but short term physical therapy referred from a physician has never helped at all.
I can't imagine going to sleep next to Bromley and just starting to hear him whisper the lyrics to skibidi toilet 😁
It's as terrifying as it sounds. Gave me a really good idea for a horror story though.
Man i should try one these things, i always suffer from painful proscratination, in almost everything, even in playing games sometimes wich is weird, i feel always foggy, i do something then someone ask me something else and i forget complety, i want to try so badly man now.
Im on Mydayis. Its like a 12'ish hour release form of adderall.