@@Lumpaa More like the only active pvp scene in KR is fucking League of Legends because Starcraft 2 died off eons ago cause Blizzard doesn't wanna develop for it anymore.
I'm a Guildwars 2 player. I look at this and think "Pearl abyss devs should play 5 minutes, FIVE MINUTES of Gw2's World vs World to learn how to make a decent large scale pvp". It's crazy how dumb this is.
@@Tory-JJ You couldn't be more wrong. Both games are very VERY VERY far from dead. Both games are releasing expansions and new regions every 1-2 years. Both games has a fucking ton of people playing. Just because YOU don't like the current pvp scene in these two games it does not mean it's dead. Name me ONE MMORPG that is balanced and has no meta. Also both games are always changing class balance trying to achieve a better balance.
10:57, You can't make global Spectate because how the game is crated, it only uploads information about whats happening around the map only when you are close to it, because otherwise all information about the mobs,npcs,players etc. would need to be stored either in VRAM if possible or RAM in much grater capacity than it is now.
I have been playing in top RU pvp guild since 2019 and during this time I have seen a lot of different changes in node wars. Now our server is in wild degradation of siege guilds, most of them will soon look exactly the same as the guilds in Korea. Even large alliances of 150 people are forced to fight on nodes limited to 50 people and this is due to an attempt to find a 100% fight. On such nodes we have 10-15 forts - capturing a node is not so important as an interesting and long fight. Current nodes cause problem with their monotony, which could be changed simply by changing some nodes in days and limits as PA promised. What the developers are proposing now looks terrible, it will simply finish off pvp completely.
After participating yesterday and nothing but pure suffering. I absolutely despise this new system and would rather suffer through shitty diplomacy again
Solution to the Spector thing, could just make it so the item turns your character invisible and allows you to move in a similar fashion to the free cam but without restricting the range. Shouldn’t be an issue as far as I can see since they heavily moderate the item’s holders and usage as is.
after seeing all the changes they are obviously attempting to kill pvp in this game without removing it directly. Not sure why but if I had to bet they make more money from pvp not being in the game. It is the only thing that makes sense
@@doubled99218 I mean obviously but the point im trying to make is that they are deliberately trying to push out any remaining PvPers for a reason that isn't super apparent.
Everybody who doesn't pvp knows that the pvpers are the single biggest source of toxicity in this game. They are the ones constantly filling server chat with negativity. They are the most likely to be perma red and griefers, which is how it really affects the game unfortunately. My guild(s) takes in and cares for new/casual players, that's our thing, the biggest issue other than getting the hang of the game is "pvpers" ruining their fun and being toxic AF. The amount of times we got deced because some pathetic person who's red was looking for a reaction from a low level/new player, to just then grief and harass groups of people. And ofc the multiple times we beat them down in defense, they just get more toxic because they are that fragile of people. Must suck knowing all these MMOs don't care about their pvpers, and the ones that do are still basically dead in the scene. Almost like it's a sign.
@@XerbiaX Open world PVP will always bring about toxicity because you lose when you die, people do not like losing. I mainly PVE in BDO and I have no problem with people who go red and PVP, take any other MMO Open world PVP is usually a core part of the game and it should be allowed, BDO should NOT get rid of red players and I hate to see them even more being restricted in their gameplay because of people like you claiming its "ruining players fun" the game literally markets itself as a open world action combat game and they show off their classes and what each can do way more than they show boring life skill gameplay. In a game with this kind of combat system not including PVP would be a massive blunder and PA either realizes this or their game dies. Only specific targeting of players should be punishable, simply killing someone for their grind spot is a completely valid thing to do and should be part of the game, it's what makes the game 10x more exciting.
If this is what NW going to be... I'll convert my gears to full PEN Tungrad Set, then just go focus on PvE and Role-playing. Hopefully this will not happen... ASIA/SEA here.
to be honest instead of giving item like hawk they should give him temporary title which can be used only on specific node war which gives him full immunity so he dont need to be bothered by other players
what if node wars were 3 guilds and instead of attacking the fort to claim it make it have a range that as long as there people of that guild on it then they contribute to claiming it, and if a guild has 10 people on the fort while the other guilds have 2 ppl and the third has 4 then the guild with the 10 people are the Defenders while the other 2 are the attackers, think of it like a percentage guild A has 55% uptime on the fort zone with 10 players alive and defending, while Guild B has 25% and Guild C has 20% and they both are trying to fight Guild A then it at the end of the specified time (1 hour that Pearl Abyss Wants) ends the guild with the most Contribution Percentage of Occupying the zone Gets the node.
If its last hit you can just wait until its low and then push it with your whole guild and 90% of the time you'll get it, doesn't seem like a well thought out process.
So you node rush (and luckily get last hit), then sit to defend your tower the entire time so it doesn't get destroyed? Seems like an awfully flawed system. Lets see how this plays out.
They use it as an item and are extremely strict about who get the item and the usage of the item because that spectate feature can be exploited. Even if a streamer use it and one of the participating guilds finds out and get somebody to watch your stream and then rely information to their guildmates to win, it is still called exploiting. Even if it is done without the knowledge of the streamer. But they are so strict about usage and availability so that ill-intended streamers won't abuse it and then feign ignorance. That's why you were told that when you were given the item. And they won't give you the item permanently simply because others can abuse it by watching your stream. They will know you regularly stream nodewars and they will stream-snipe trying to win.
Fact that FT dont go down when u destroy Fort is nice edition ngl. This way u can counter and make enemy guild bleed. BTW u pay 500m for one FT. So its good it stays up till its destroyed. Makes worth the money.
isnt it like old NW but less preparation and short timer why people so scare? also its first day so people need to learn new system sorry for bad english
They need to upgrade the engine of the game , next year chrono and archeage2 will launch is confirmed by kakaogames and archage2 is just a copy paste of bdo in unreal engine 5
Interesting why do you think so I personally think it being only one hour is way too short and I'm saying that as someone who is planning to come back to the game as a new player when the new class comes out.
This is the whole game since launch. 0 playtesting and no thinking things out.
thats horrific. i fear for NW
I think it would be cool if rbf was just 1 button to enter and it automatically selected a map and instance instead of being split up the way it is.
heck yea
KR and PvP nice joke
Pvp has always been bad because of their servers.
@@Lumpaa More like the only active pvp scene in KR is fucking League of Legends because Starcraft 2 died off eons ago cause Blizzard doesn't wanna develop for it anymore.
I'm a Guildwars 2 player. I look at this and think "Pearl abyss devs should play 5 minutes, FIVE MINUTES of Gw2's World vs World to learn how to make a decent large scale pvp".
It's crazy how dumb this is.
Both games are dead and have serious meta slave issues. The core problems are similar in that aspect.
@@Tory-JJ You couldn't be more wrong.
Both games are very VERY VERY far from dead.
Both games are releasing expansions and new regions every 1-2 years.
Both games has a fucking ton of people playing.
Just because YOU don't like the current pvp scene in these two games it does not mean it's dead.
Name me ONE MMORPG that is balanced and has no meta. Also both games are always changing class balance trying to achieve a better balance.
idk man wvw has a lot of issues too but definitely better then Node wars yea. way more user friendly and easy to get into
This node war system is the biggest pile of shit I've seen. 30 minute node war? This is literally insulting
10:57, You can't make global Spectate because how the game is crated, it only uploads information about whats happening around the map only when you are close to it, because otherwise all information about the mobs,npcs,players etc. would need to be stored either in VRAM if possible or RAM in much grater capacity than it is now.
7:58 why is this not a thing yet? 😭 I think spectator mode feature with casting would be amazing
Hue’s horse was the nw scene all along
AFK NODEWAR SYSTEM IS OUT BOYS! ALL THE HEIDEL AFKERS CAN DO IT IN NODEWARS NOW!!!!!
DK erpers having a field day rn
I have been playing in top RU pvp guild since 2019 and during this time I have seen a lot of different changes in node wars. Now our server is in wild degradation of siege guilds, most of them will soon look exactly the same as the guilds in Korea. Even large alliances of 150 people are forced to fight on nodes limited to 50 people and this is due to an attempt to find a 100% fight. On such nodes we have 10-15 forts - capturing a node is not so important as an interesting and long fight. Current nodes cause problem with their monotony, which could be changed simply by changing some nodes in days and limits as PA promised. What the developers are proposing now looks terrible, it will simply finish off pvp completely.
Need to rename the system from Node War to No War
After participating yesterday and nothing but pure suffering. I absolutely despise this new system and would rather suffer through shitty diplomacy again
Solution to the Spector thing, could just make it so the item turns your character invisible and allows you to move in a similar fashion to the free cam but without restricting the range. Shouldn’t be an issue as far as I can see since they heavily moderate the item’s holders and usage as is.
after seeing all the changes they are obviously attempting to kill pvp in this game without removing it directly. Not sure why but if I had to bet they make more money from pvp not being in the game. It is the only thing that makes sense
Reality is, there are more pve people than pvp people in general (unless you play a pvp specific game like fps or mobas)
@@doubled99218 I mean obviously but the point im trying to make is that they are deliberately trying to push out any remaining PvPers for a reason that isn't super apparent.
Everybody who doesn't pvp knows that the pvpers are the single biggest source of toxicity in this game. They are the ones constantly filling server chat with negativity. They are the most likely to be perma red and griefers, which is how it really affects the game unfortunately. My guild(s) takes in and cares for new/casual players, that's our thing, the biggest issue other than getting the hang of the game is "pvpers" ruining their fun and being toxic AF. The amount of times we got deced because some pathetic person who's red was looking for a reaction from a low level/new player, to just then grief and harass groups of people. And ofc the multiple times we beat them down in defense, they just get more toxic because they are that fragile of people. Must suck knowing all these MMOs don't care about their pvpers, and the ones that do are still basically dead in the scene. Almost like it's a sign.
@@XerbiaX Open world PVP will always bring about toxicity because you lose when you die, people do not like losing. I mainly PVE in BDO and I have no problem with people who go red and PVP, take any other MMO Open world PVP is usually a core part of the game and it should be allowed, BDO should NOT get rid of red players and I hate to see them even more being restricted in their gameplay because of people like you claiming its "ruining players fun" the game literally markets itself as a open world action combat game and they show off their classes and what each can do way more than they show boring life skill gameplay. In a game with this kind of combat system not including PVP would be a massive blunder and PA either realizes this or their game dies. Only specific targeting of players should be punishable, simply killing someone for their grind spot is a completely valid thing to do and should be part of the game, it's what makes the game 10x more exciting.
@@XerbiaX wowzers, hope you and guild keep doing good and protecting new players from these unhappy people.
This is so sad... how does PA even come up with some of these changes? Does who's in charge not test or think this stuff through at all?
This looks horrible. I appreciate the PMA towards the changes but damn... where was the actual war?
This looks like hot garbage. What the actual fork were they thinking? How is this even supposed to be fun at all!?
If this is what NW going to be... I'll convert my gears to full PEN Tungrad Set, then just go focus on PvE and Role-playing.
Hopefully this will not happen...
ASIA/SEA here.
Last hitting fort to gain it is dumb... imagine a ninja sitting in stealth around the fort just waiting to jump in and last hit it to steal
Hue + Blue 😂
We love Hue! Thanks so much!
to be honest instead of giving item like hawk they should give him temporary title which can be used only on specific node war which gives him full immunity so he dont need to be bothered by other players
the average american is in fact 5 years old
what if node wars were 3 guilds and instead of attacking the fort to claim it make it have a range that as long as there people of that guild on it then they contribute to claiming it, and if a guild has 10 people on the fort while the other guilds have 2 ppl and the third has 4 then the guild with the 10 people are the Defenders while the other 2 are the attackers, think of it like a percentage guild A has 55% uptime on the fort zone with 10 players alive and defending, while Guild B has 25% and Guild C has 20% and they both are trying to fight Guild A then it at the end of the specified time (1 hour that Pearl Abyss Wants) ends the guild with the most Contribution Percentage of Occupying the zone Gets the node.
If its last hit you can just wait until its low and then push it with your whole guild and 90% of the time you'll get it, doesn't seem like a well thought out process.
Seems like a KR ser vs Hue Horse more than a NW
Hue took more damage than any of the other guilds. That recap screen gonna be brutal.
Wanted to watch this after the podcast last night.
Higher silver reward, and less forts to conquer like 1fort each 3 guild. Thats how you will take ppl in nw and actually fight for something.
I have no reason to join a guild anymore bruh,
My favorites mode the Node War is gone when im reach 700gs RIP
O7
O7 you had a good run soldier
This will finally kill PVP in this game. Lets find a new game
So you node rush (and luckily get last hit), then sit to defend your tower the entire time so it doesn't get destroyed? Seems like an awfully flawed system. Lets see how this plays out.
This was the most boring video but the commentary was so killer I don't know how you do it blue XDDD
Watching paint dry is more exciting than this.
It really is
34:30 sometimes being the first leads to learning bad habits 🤣
has hue hotbar ever been on the bdo united nations videos?
Video was out so late. I did not collect my twitch drops So dumb they do not auto collect.
and dev only listen to korea player base
spam 5 on video
Why would you even notice that? >.>
they make pvp worse and worse every patch man they might as well rename it crimson desert for solo pve game
blue? In SEA server we can down a fort in 3mins
There doesn't seem to be an incentive to fight
1:28:20 you forget the parts of the video hue sped up the playback
They use it as an item and are extremely strict about who get the item and the usage of the item because that spectate feature can be exploited. Even if a streamer use it and one of the participating guilds finds out and get somebody to watch your stream and then rely information to their guildmates to win, it is still called exploiting. Even if it is done without the knowledge of the streamer.
But they are so strict about usage and availability so that ill-intended streamers won't abuse it and then feign ignorance. That's why you were told that when you were given the item. And they won't give you the item permanently simply because others can abuse it by watching your stream. They will know you regularly stream nodewars and they will stream-snipe trying to win.
Hue hes 52 yrs old right thats why we got treated like his kid kekw
Fact that FT dont go down when u destroy Fort is nice edition ngl. This way u can counter and make enemy guild bleed. BTW u pay 500m for one FT. So its good it stays up till its destroyed. Makes worth the money.
Please stop giving them money till they revert this change i beg. This is terrible.
I might gonna do NW for the extra money now bro. Just online for the last 5 min of the Node and try to snipe the Fort LOL ez money
Why did he not just use magnus?
Can't use magnus during a node war/siege
pinkgaybar guild XD
How do i play NW when I’m an anti social solo player?
Korea and PVP??? that wont work
This is legit copy-past from GW2's WvW system... well, most of them.
Hey Blue... did you already played FFXIV Online?
time to quit nw
Wtf is this?? Nodewar was good as they Been for 10 years. Font bring this to na Eu
isnt it like old NW but less preparation and short timer
why people so scare? also its first day so people need to learn new system
sorry for bad english
nice thank
They need to upgrade the engine of the game , next year chrono and archeage2 will launch is confirmed by kakaogames and archage2 is just a copy paste of bdo in unreal engine 5
have you ever played a unreal 5 game ?, cause almost every large scale unreal 5 game has performance issues .
Archeage a following has died so bad they’re shutting down servers for the first game permanently. The game died, I don’t have high hopes for AA2
What's stopping them from botching their new games? When the previous was handled so terrible.
90% chance that AA2 will be a flop, p2w and ultimately bad
we just really need longer vision ranges computers have came a long way in the last 10 years.
TO me it means U have to do it straight up & stop being old man & sitting procrastination about how to do it lol ,get the fucking job done..
pvp is dead in korea SEAxTH have more action than this LOL
Why are we watching Korea like they actually PvP? Make your decision when it hits your region.
nice
Ew lol
I feel like the nw is better and only crybabies are the older players who were used to abusing the old nw
It is he’s just being a negative Nancy.
FR
Do you actually look at this and say this is somehow a good system, like literally where was the war in this video?
@@senatorimamoglu3888 the pov was a spectator so was this even the person to really give us the true experience?
Interesting why do you think so I personally think it being only one hour is way too short and I'm saying that as someone who is planning to come back to the game as a new player when the new class comes out.
NW won’t feel the same as it once was :( kinda sad since it’s what kept me playing for so long