I’m a graduate student in public policy and I’ve never heard Arendt summarized so well! Yes, this is a concerning phenomenon and a lot of my studies are geared towards figuring out how to engage centrist voters before this entropy catches up to us all.
Oooo this is fascinating and something I'm always trying to figure out lol that and how to get people to stop seeing the left/progressives as a threat and teaming up with extreme right wingers. Considering going back to college and getting a poli sci degree and then getting a masters in something like public policy!
@ikik1648 Any luck yet? Seems to me, we need to rely on the effects of reality to get the message across that reality doesn’t care whether you are a screaming ideologue or a centrist with your head in the sand. So what I mean is, perhaps asking question like: “So how’s your health insurance working out for you?” or “What my grocery shopping cart is telling me seems different from the messaging out of the last Fed meeting. What’s yours saying?” Or, “So, if you don’t support Ukraine, then you’re all good with having a system like Russia’s here?” etc.
Apologies for my late response, but I only saw your post now. To me, and I'm only 57, the entropy you refer to has crept into our lives from as early as the late 60s, when the strife we experienced due to the Vietnam War boiled over, in addition to the assassinations of RFK and MLK; and the 70s, with the Nixon administration's shenanigans culminating in Watergate and his resignation (not to mention VP Agnew's beforehand), leaving us diminished, disillusioned, and disaffected. Ford's controversial pardon engendered deeper cynicism among us. Then came Carter's mediocre presidency, Reagan's joyfully oblivious administration, which first pried open the disparity between rich and poor, while also giving rise to the Neo-Con/Fascist movement that came of age under The Orange Menace's Reign of Horror. And let's not forget the Iran-Contra Affair. Then came the Slick Willie and Monica Show, Cheney's War in the nsme of 9/11(with Dubya as Worst Supporting Actor), Obama leaving us wanting more than Hope, yet relishing the homage we pay to him as a celebrity in the political thereafter, and of course, the vile, foul-smelling, putrid vomit that was and still is all things Trump. What you call entropy is the world I lived in since I committed myself to enlightened citizenship (that I dsre call myself an enlightened citizen means we're in deep trouble). I take entropy to mean my situational normal. I knew nothing else. I would give anything to bear witness to FDR in real time. Despite his foibles, he was a force for good, be it through the Great Depression or World War II. He still stsnds light years ahead of the sea of political guano that is all too pervasive today. Which is why we ordinary folk reinforce our limited worldview within the confines of our lonely rooms through social media. Misery loves company, especially for those among us who feel they have nowhere to turn their lonely eyes to. Here is where our present-day entropy manifests itself.
Thank you for the clear discussion of two of her books that I had read quite a while ago. Of course, I also found the need to dive back into the Origins of Totalitarianism in recent years. Back in 1974, I had the good fortune to take a lecture course from Professor Arendt on The Life of the Mind.
As you yourself pointed out, and as many in these comments have also pointed out, the relevance of so many of these ideas to what we're experiencing right now, right here -- it's awfully scary. I keep coming right down to my base pessimism, and having no idea how to overcome it. But this lecture was so enlightening. Thank you for brining many complex Ideas into very clear view. As usual! :)
This video is absolutely describing where we are politically in the United States currently. Totalitarianism will always be possible because there are at least two conflicting visions of what the country should be, and I would argue that both major sides have given up on trying to find common ground. Thanks for another great video!
Wow 20 seconds in. 🔥🔥🔥 already. I hadn’t been able to conceptualize human condition vs. human nature. I’d long been skeptical of a lot of facets of so called human nature, but how you laid it out (before even explaining it in detail) was wonderful
It's funny: everyone here is clutching their pearls about this subject,but no one seems to be able to realize that it's only half of the country who is heading this way. In case you haven't figured it out yet,it's the left. You know,the college participants who are all over this board.
I wish I would have had a professor like you.... Your videos are so engaging... Came across a movie called The zone of interest - Hanneh arendt and Banality of evil came to my mind
Very well done - nice job of explicating Arendt's 21st century relevance. I clicked the like button midway through watching it - by the end I wished I could click it again.
@@keiju996 thanks for your response . Certainty not in present day view of democracy where the mass votes for a leader rather than one who has knowledge and wisdom through philosophy with state and individuals in mind . Today one needs only to go to social media and quickly sees the horrendous uneducated shadowy views ( dogmatic not only in the religious sense) of serious philosophical matters . If one were to write a post graduate work with legitimate reference through academic reference on the same topics presented in social media posts it would at least be intelligible and read with some sense of comfort. It’s more like listening to a pack of wolves rather than to a wise person of collective wisdom . When one after being on social media looks into the crowd sees not or feels no wisdom it senses lowly educated howling without knowing . A lot of it is to do with filtered down thoughts from philosophers though used out of context and certainly not with having the knowledge and scholarship of these philosophers . Nor aware of the game they were playing with the others . Philosophy as is politics is a serious matter . Good thing medicine doesn’t allow for any perspective will do , or else we all will be dead at the hands of a fool !
Been reading a lot of Arendt lately, reading "Responsibility and Judgement" at the moment. This was very helpful and yeah, timely is one way of putting it.
Will the third level of the Vita Activa, or the contemplative life, be possible for person who refuses to engage in open Reckoning about what we've just undergone in the general mainstreaming of censorship and ideological persecution, which culminated in what I call the Covid/Vax Disaster? In millions unnecessarily killed? Honest question. The avoidance of any of the threads which lead toward Reckoning seems almost as strong in professional academia as in professional media. BTW, on the human nature question, and on the hobgoblin raised here about consistency, Arendt should be supplemented with Chantal Delsol. Carl Eric Scott
We are always trapped in some kind of ideology. We are free to think as long as we think in context - I don't know of any other way to look at this. Perhaps discourse is a way out - however we may be under an unconscious/subconscious ideology we are unaware of and not even able to talk about it.
@@lucyferos205 Ha, eventually you have to go to Walmart. lol! I still believe we are pretty stuck. In fact it's worse now after a year of reflection. Julia Kristeva may have a way, not necessarily out, but at least it's a nice one. Focusing on an apoltical solution. I just recently started looking at her more closely. Something like a humanist approach grounded in maternal love. I think I could get on board with that.
The MASS is referred to as the sense of SELF-DESTRUCTION of the humankind regarding the ideal subject of totalitarian rule. Indifferent between evil and good.
great videos. i shall share with my students. one minor point: arendt notes somewhere (in *the human condition* perhaps?) that she is agnostic on the question of human nature. to paraphrase: "man" (as she calls anthropos) may have a fixed nature/essence/entelechy but that nature/essence/entelechy is not known to man; it is known only to g-d.
I haven't watched it thoroughly yet, but it seems to me that the Prof isn't using a dedicated mic for this delicate philosophical piece of video. It worth using a better framing as well. it's entirely an uneasy frame I would say.
By stating "Humans don't have an essential nature." you imply that Arendt rejected the concept of human nature, but that sounds far more like Judith Butler. After listening to Hannah Arendt for two hours I'm pretty sure she held a dualistic view of human nature AND human condition. Biographically it makes sense, since she grew up in a culture that overemphasized human nature, she primarily worked on understanding the human condition. Also she seemed have an additive rather than a subtractive attitude, meaning she liked to add to contemporary understanding rather than disprove it.
I wonder if for countries like Mexico, with a very strong presence of organized crime, it is not recruited or used by the state precisely - as a form of terror - to prevent the emergence of a public/political life or action. In this way the state maintains the dominion of the private and of Labor over Action.
Hannah Arendt has been and is best mentor in Politics. All her thoughts shaped my life so that today I consider the plurality ask the essence the my life.
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look out for that cheese plant professor Ellie. I am sure I saw it just move - seriously, great work by the way. You are the only philosophical explicator i never feel like clicking away from because I lose interest after a while.
I do think there is a core to human nature. I think this is what people call God. When we are knocked to our knees, this is the part that can help us back up. It doesn't help us do what we want -- just to learn to survive on a fresh basis.
Within this framework of Arendt isn't anarchism technically a totalitarian ideology. I feel like a lot of the concepts described here would fit anarchism to an extent.
Anarchism is diametrically opposite to totalitarianism. If totalitarianism first forms the ideal of a perfect society, and then shapes society to the ideal by any means possible, anarchism forms the ideal of a better society, in which everybody takes part of that society, nobody is dominated and nobody wanted to dominate, then seeks to use the correct means, because certain means -the state- create certain ends which are contrary to our goals
@@edcify8241 That seems like a rather empty distinction, every ideology will eschew certain means. This just highlights the foolishness of the idea of totalitarianism itself.
@@edcify8241 In the first line you said totalitarionism first forms the ideal of a perfect society and then you said "anarchism forms the ideal of a better society" isnt that saying the same thing? Ive read a decent chunk of anarchist texts to me one of the striking features is the refusal to outline a perfect society from the getgo
I have trouble with what she says about ideology. I'm not sure how she defines it, but it seems to me that her concern for freedom is no less ideological than what she denounces. She's certainly right that "reality is messy" and ideologies *can* blind us to that with dissasterous consecuences, but there's no way of having a meaningful picture of the world without ideological convictions as far as I can tell.
I think what she's saying is unfinished. Ellie isn't wrong, but I think she's missing the part where you can't really be "outside" of ideology. Human behavior already teaches us that choices we make are actually pre-determined one way or another. So from a sociologist's perspective, you can't really escape an ideology and the status quo is essentially made by the most dominant ideology. Hannah Arendt isn't the only thinker who studied ideology anyway. Many other prominent contributors have extended the discussion after her time. So yeah, in essence, you're right, one cannot have a view of the world without layers of influence of ideas we've absorbed over time, whether its life experience or things we learn from others.
Yes, FANTASY is the source of politics. Look up Richard Koenigsberg, my papers on ideology, etc. Ideology is collective fantasy. Politics often is ideological fantasy. Yes, ideology STRUCTURES experience.
"Ideologies .... for Arendt [are] extremely troublesome because they reduce our freedom by replacing it with a straight jacket of logic" At least, in her day she had the freedom to smoke. Oh, the logic of banning tobacco while everybody smokes - fossil fuels, wood etc.
Reality is not one thing. It is both possible and advantageous to harmonize multiple realities, but to unify them beyond poetry is a task that even modern physics has failed to accomplish. Reality is not consistent because it is not singular. Yet it is not contradictory with in it's composite parts. We only think reality is capricious because we need it to fuse known together with the unknown. The mysterious must die to give birth to perception. There is nothing wrong with melding various configurations of reality into one perspective as long as unifying principle is understood as goal instead of a primordial subtrate of existence. This not withstanding, the sum total of all realities is not the truth per se, but an ability to perch above it. Reality is lived in, felt, and perceived, whereas truth is a transcendent corall of the whole. Truth need only be understood, so it may encompass abstraction, miraculous events, representation, and joyful irrationalities such as dance. Reality posess no transcendence absent an operator, so it must declare that dreams are not real. Yet we can say in all confidence that dreams are true.
When people with lower intelligence and no interest in the world around them, beyond the selfie , leave those with knowledge of how the world about them functions, let alone where Denmark is, they endanger the democracy. We all are obligated to some awareness, when people have no knowlege of their own history let alone that of others, they leave themselves and others to the dangers of totalitanarinism. In particular, misguided priorities.
The opposite of totalitarianism is INDIVIDUALITY: the opposite of participation in politics. Look what happens when people participate in politics (today). It's the stupidest dimension of society.
Thanks for the explanation, Dr. Anderson. I find Arendt’s arguments and conclusions extremely weak. She seems to have a strong confirmation bias in favour of continuing the liberal state as the greatest good no matter what, and shapes her conclusions on other systems accordingly, leading her to conflate communists and fascists while herself agitating against mass democratic participation. What she puts forward is a dangerous ideology (of the idealised bourgeois republic) that sees itself as outside ideology.
If majority rule is not the case in a democratic society then it is not a democratic society. As simple as that. Arendt is the clearest example to help understand why philosophy does more harm than good 😢
@@edcify8241 Thank you for your feedback. Not sure I fully understand your comment. Saying that thinking is bad is harmful? Thinking can be 'good or bad' depending on many factors. I am sure Arendt was well intended, but she is being irresponsible.
I’m a graduate student in public policy and I’ve never heard Arendt summarized so well! Yes, this is a concerning phenomenon and a lot of my studies are geared towards figuring out how to engage centrist voters before this entropy catches up to us all.
Oooo this is fascinating and something I'm always trying to figure out lol that and how to get people to stop seeing the left/progressives as a threat and teaming up with extreme right wingers.
Considering going back to college and getting a poli sci degree and then getting a masters in something like public policy!
@ikik1648 Any luck yet? Seems to me, we need to rely on the effects of reality to get the message across that reality doesn’t care whether you are a screaming ideologue or a centrist with your head in the sand. So what I mean is, perhaps asking question like: “So how’s your health insurance working out for you?” or “What my grocery shopping cart is telling me seems different from the messaging out of the last Fed meeting. What’s yours saying?” Or, “So, if you don’t support Ukraine, then you’re all good with having a system like Russia’s here?” etc.
Far better than roger berkowitz
Apologies for my late response, but I only saw your post now. To me, and I'm only 57, the entropy you refer to has crept into our lives from as early as the late 60s, when the strife we experienced due to the Vietnam War boiled over, in addition to the assassinations of RFK and MLK; and the 70s, with the Nixon administration's shenanigans culminating in Watergate and his resignation (not to mention VP Agnew's beforehand), leaving us diminished, disillusioned, and disaffected. Ford's controversial pardon engendered deeper cynicism among us. Then came Carter's mediocre presidency, Reagan's joyfully oblivious administration, which first pried open the disparity between rich and poor, while also giving rise to the Neo-Con/Fascist movement that came of age under The Orange Menace's Reign of Horror. And let's not forget the Iran-Contra Affair. Then came the Slick Willie and Monica Show, Cheney's War in the nsme of 9/11(with Dubya as Worst Supporting Actor), Obama leaving us wanting more than Hope, yet relishing the homage we pay to him as a celebrity in the political thereafter, and of course, the vile, foul-smelling, putrid vomit that was and still is all things Trump.
What you call entropy is the world I lived in since I committed myself to enlightened citizenship (that I dsre call myself an enlightened citizen means we're in deep trouble). I take entropy to mean my situational normal. I knew nothing else.
I would give anything to bear witness to FDR in real time. Despite his foibles, he was a force for good, be it through the Great Depression or World War II. He still stsnds light years ahead of the sea of political guano that is all too pervasive today. Which is why we ordinary folk reinforce our limited worldview within the confines of our lonely rooms through social media. Misery loves company, especially for those among us who feel they have nowhere to turn their lonely eyes to. Here is where our present-day entropy manifests itself.
Thanks!
Thank you for the clear discussion of two of her books that I had read quite a while ago. Of course, I also found the need to dive back into the Origins of Totalitarianism in recent years. Back in 1974, I had the good fortune to take a lecture course from Professor Arendt on The Life of the Mind.
As you yourself pointed out, and as many in these comments have also pointed out, the relevance of so many of these ideas to what we're experiencing right now, right here -- it's awfully scary. I keep coming right down to my base pessimism, and having no idea how to overcome it.
But this lecture was so enlightening. Thank you for brining many complex Ideas into very clear view. As usual! :)
Have been learning a lot from the Overthink Podcast.
This video is absolutely describing where we are politically in the United States currently. Totalitarianism will always be possible because there are at least two conflicting visions of what the country should be, and I would argue that both major sides have given up on trying to find common ground. Thanks for another great video!
Yeah. One side is totalitarian,and the other just wants to make a living. Don't get confused about who wants to rule the world.
¡Arendt is still hotfire! Great class teach, im in for the course.
That was excellent. I hope you do more publicly available lectures on Arendt.
Wow 20 seconds in. 🔥🔥🔥 already.
I hadn’t been able to conceptualize human condition vs. human nature. I’d long been skeptical of a lot of facets of so called human nature, but how you laid it out (before even explaining it in detail) was wonderful
Thank you, professor Anderson. This video has encouraged me to reread The origins of totalitarianism.
Same here! Excellent presentation
this video just made so much sense of the world for me holy shit
Your best show yet . Outstanding presentation of complex and baffling behaviors by mixed up populations .
It's funny: everyone here is clutching their pearls about this subject,but no one seems to be able to realize that it's only half of the country who is heading this way. In case you haven't figured it out yet,it's the left. You know,the college participants who are all over this board.
Thank you, Professor Anderson, for this interesting elaboration for Arendt thoughts.
I wish I would have had a professor like you.... Your videos are so engaging... Came across a movie called The zone of interest - Hanneh arendt and Banality of evil came to my mind
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This is such a clear explanation! Really helped me in my political science studies! Thank you so much ! ❤
Very well done - nice job of explicating Arendt's 21st century relevance. I clicked the like button midway through watching it - by the end I wished I could click it again.
your doing a better job then my prof on explaining all of this, thanks :3
Thank you for the summary.
Thanks so much for this, Professor. I learned a lot.
Thanks once more for your philosophical craftsmanship.
I find what politics lack today is the Philosopher King . One who has collective knowledge!
I agree.
If there were a philosopher King, will we still live with Democracy?
@@keiju996 thanks for your response .
Certainty not in present day view of democracy where the mass votes for a leader rather than one who has knowledge and wisdom through philosophy with state and individuals in mind .
Today one needs only to go to social media and quickly sees the horrendous uneducated shadowy views ( dogmatic not only in the religious sense) of serious philosophical matters .
If one were to write a post graduate work with legitimate reference through academic reference on the same topics presented in social media posts it would at least be intelligible and read with some sense of comfort. It’s more like listening to a pack of wolves rather than to a wise person of collective wisdom .
When one after being on social media looks into the crowd sees not or feels no wisdom it senses lowly educated howling without knowing .
A lot of it is to do with filtered down thoughts from philosophers though used out of context and certainly not with having the knowledge and scholarship of these philosophers . Nor aware of the game they were playing with the others . Philosophy as is politics is a serious matter .
Good thing medicine doesn’t allow for any perspective will do , or else we all will be dead at the hands of a fool !
I like your articulate philosophical explanations.
Been reading a lot of Arendt lately, reading "Responsibility and Judgement" at the moment. This was very helpful and yeah, timely is one way of putting it.
happy to spot the hong translation of either/or on that shelf, that book changed my life!
Love this video. Thank you Prof. 😊Wish there will be more topics on Arendt. Maybe “The life of the mind”?
Wow, great summary beautifully presented, thank you!
Will the third level of the Vita Activa, or the contemplative life, be possible for person who refuses to engage in open Reckoning about what we've just undergone in the general mainstreaming of censorship and ideological persecution, which culminated in what I call the Covid/Vax Disaster? In millions unnecessarily killed? Honest question. The avoidance of any of the threads which lead toward Reckoning seems almost as strong in professional academia as in professional media. BTW, on the human nature question, and on the hobgoblin raised here about consistency, Arendt should be supplemented with Chantal Delsol. Carl Eric Scott
Great video. Thanks a lot!
Was wondering if you could do a video on Spinoza? Would love to see you talk about the Ethics or his other writings.
Thanks for this suggestion--great recommendation! :)
Great summary in this short time👏.
Just finished Origins of Totalitarianism and was quite shocked at how relevant it seems to the modern political discourse.
Useful summation, thanks!
What a talk!
I could listen to to you all day. Brilliant!!
There is an essence from the limbic - expressed in the solar plexus. Or heart. Or soul 😊
i thought thinking was part of the 'vita contemplativa' which is separate from the vita activa, and art part of action
We are always trapped in some kind of ideology. We are free to think as long as we think in context - I don't know of any other way to look at this. Perhaps discourse is a way out - however we may be under an unconscious/subconscious ideology we are unaware of and not even able to talk about it.
You might enjoy Zizeks thoughts on Ideology
We could trade thinking for mindful awareness and self-forgetful absorption. But you can't really live in that state indefinitely.
@@lucyferos205 Ha, eventually you have to go to Walmart. lol! I still believe we are pretty stuck. In fact it's worse now after a year of reflection.
Julia Kristeva may have a way, not necessarily out, but at least it's a nice one. Focusing on an apoltical solution. I just recently started looking at her more closely. Something like a humanist approach grounded in maternal love.
I think I could get on board with that.
Thank you very much for this.
This was fantastic. Thank you
An excellent lecture! I am curious if anyone could point me in the direction of what is the best work by Arendt on her theories of ideologies?
Origins of Totalitarianism :)
And Eichmann in Jerusalem
Her Eichmann in Jerusalem always worth another read
Sensational.
Brilliant video. Where can I find more on what Hegel said on how humans are shaped by their environment?
Excellent, you deserve more subscribes and likes
Excellent!
Beautifully explained!
The MASS is referred to as the sense of SELF-DESTRUCTION of the humankind regarding the ideal subject of totalitarian rule. Indifferent between evil and good.
Brilliant video. thank you
thank you so much
thanks, very nicely presented.. and with passion,
almost? 😊
great videos. i shall share with my students. one minor point: arendt notes somewhere (in *the human condition* perhaps?) that she is agnostic on the question of human nature. to paraphrase: "man" (as she calls anthropos) may have a fixed nature/essence/entelechy but that nature/essence/entelechy is not known to man; it is known only to g-d.
I haven't watched it thoroughly yet, but it seems to me that the Prof isn't using a dedicated mic for this delicate philosophical piece of video. It worth using a better framing as well. it's entirely an uneasy frame I would say.
Man, the last 1, 2 minutes of the video - talking about ideology and “the messy reality of nature” - really made me have to step back.
By stating "Humans don't have an essential nature." you imply that Arendt rejected the concept of human nature, but that sounds far more like Judith Butler.
After listening to Hannah Arendt for two hours I'm pretty sure she held a dualistic view of human nature AND human condition. Biographically it makes sense, since she grew up in a culture that overemphasized human nature, she primarily worked on understanding the human condition.
Also she seemed have an additive rather than a subtractive attitude, meaning she liked to add to contemporary understanding rather than disprove it.
Just watch the series "MAID" - with Margaret Qualley, especially so the scene of cashier.
Professor Ellie, please recommend me some books by Hannah Arent's Thought Commentators. Please.
I wonder if for countries like Mexico, with a very strong presence of organized crime, it is not recruited or used by the state precisely - as a form of terror - to prevent the emergence of a public/political life or action. In this way the state maintains the dominion of the private and of Labor over Action.
Quite scary - political isolation, mass movement, no distinction between reality and fiction, terror.. All ✔️ for mexico
Which edition are you referring to?
Fantastic introduction to Arendt. She is extremely relevant to our time considering covid and right-wing populism & authoritarianism on the rise.
This did not age well 😂
Thanks. That helps explain BlueAnon quite a bit. As well as the totalitarian reaction to the virus.
Brilliant.
That’s rock solid.
i'm a fan of your work on youtube and have watched a lot of your videos.
but i wonder what is the point of naming pages?
this video was created for a course in which students were assigned readings
also, always. important to cite sources and show where you're getting things in the texts! :)
@@OverthinkPodcastPhilosophy ok, the videos are part of your university teaching. with this double purpose it makes sense.
Hannah Arendt has been and is best mentor in Politics. All her thoughts shaped my life so that today I consider the plurality ask the essence the my life.
i said in not comment on because @ the beginning the argument is very valuable or valid ( she's established argumentative fortune).
I want to know more about the creature sitting on the shelf on your left
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look out for that cheese plant professor Ellie. I am sure I saw it just move - seriously, great work by the way. You are the only philosophical explicator i never feel like clicking away from because I lose interest after a while.
I do think there is a core to human nature. I think this is what people call God. When we are knocked to our knees, this is the part that can help us back up. It doesn't help us do what we want -- just to learn to survive on a fresh basis.
Within this framework of Arendt isn't anarchism technically a totalitarian ideology. I feel like a lot of the concepts described here would fit anarchism to an extent.
Anarchism is diametrically opposite to totalitarianism.
If totalitarianism first forms the ideal of a perfect society, and then shapes society to the ideal by any means possible, anarchism forms the ideal of a better society, in which everybody takes part of that society, nobody is dominated and nobody wanted to dominate, then seeks to use the correct means, because certain means -the state- create certain ends which are contrary to our goals
@@edcify8241 That seems like a rather empty distinction, every ideology will eschew certain means. This just highlights the foolishness of the idea of totalitarianism itself.
@@edcify8241 In the first line you said totalitarionism first forms the ideal of a perfect society and then you said "anarchism forms the ideal of a better society" isnt that saying the same thing? Ive read a decent chunk of anarchist texts to me one of the striking features is the refusal to outline a perfect society from the getgo
You might as well surmise that all ideologies are totalitarian.
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I have trouble with what she says about ideology. I'm not sure how she defines it, but it seems to me that her concern for freedom is no less ideological than what she denounces. She's certainly right that "reality is messy" and ideologies *can* blind us to that with dissasterous consecuences, but there's no way of having a meaningful picture of the world without ideological convictions as far as I can tell.
I think what she's saying is unfinished. Ellie isn't wrong, but I think she's missing the part where you can't really be "outside" of ideology. Human behavior already teaches us that choices we make are actually pre-determined one way or another. So from a sociologist's perspective, you can't really escape an ideology and the status quo is essentially made by the most dominant ideology. Hannah Arendt isn't the only thinker who studied ideology anyway. Many other prominent contributors have extended the discussion after her time. So yeah, in essence, you're right, one cannot have a view of the world without layers of influence of ideas we've absorbed over time, whether its life experience or things we learn from others.
Arendt described what's happening in Guatemala right now
Yes, FANTASY is the source of politics. Look up Richard Koenigsberg, my papers on ideology, etc. Ideology is collective fantasy. Politics often is ideological fantasy. Yes, ideology STRUCTURES experience.
The mass and lack of democracy
"Ideologies .... for Arendt [are] extremely troublesome because they reduce our freedom by replacing it with a straight jacket of logic" At least, in her day she had the freedom to smoke. Oh, the logic of banning tobacco while everybody smokes - fossil fuels, wood etc.
3:30 "we don't want to talk politics with each other"
*jump cut to 2022*
I like this channel, but it makes me want to know more than I seem capable. Alas, I am only a man with a book problem.
Актуальная лекция, всегда актуальная тема (проблематика)..
"... including the inconsistent and unpredictable character of human freedom." wow!!! such poignant words
Reality is not one thing. It is both possible and advantageous to harmonize multiple realities, but to unify them beyond poetry is a task that even modern physics has failed to accomplish.
Reality is not consistent because it is not singular. Yet it is not contradictory with in it's composite parts. We only think reality is capricious because we need it to fuse known together with the unknown. The mysterious must die to give birth to perception.
There is nothing wrong with melding various configurations of reality into one perspective as long as unifying principle is understood as goal instead of a primordial subtrate of existence. This not withstanding, the sum total of all realities is not the truth per se, but an ability to perch above it. Reality is lived in, felt, and perceived, whereas truth is a transcendent corall of the whole. Truth need only be understood, so it may encompass abstraction, miraculous events, representation, and joyful irrationalities such as dance.
Reality posess no transcendence absent an operator, so it must declare that dreams are not real. Yet we can say in all confidence that dreams are true.
Thinking Without A Bannister
the english pronunciation of "Arendt" is hilarious
Excuse me, is this " A Rant on former democratically organized and future totalitarian societies?"
Then I'm all in.
I think your amazing
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so true, ideologies are coarse-grained thinking patterns for adepts of intellectually lazy mimicry.
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"Hitler's Willing Executioners." The "chorus is the author."
When people with lower intelligence and no interest in the world around them, beyond the selfie , leave those with knowledge of how the world about them functions, let alone where Denmark is, they endanger the democracy. We all are obligated to some awareness, when people have no knowlege of their own history let alone that of others, they leave themselves and others to the dangers of totalitanarinism. In particular, misguided priorities.
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Does a totalitarian society rely on police or military enforcement? You said police. I think military. I don't know Arendt well enough.
They reply on both military and police. Police against their own citizens and military for external expansionary policies
theirs movement saw the needs control, food shortage and a reef economy. (fragile infrastructure).
... and that is why Marx proclaimed, 'Je ne pas une Marxist!'
Une, lol.
>Equating Nazis and Communists
>Claiming reality is inconsistent
Opinion discarded.
This!!!
Nazis and commies are the same. Camps, war, power, propaganda. You're blinded by allegiance to ideology.
The opposite of totalitarianism is INDIVIDUALITY: the opposite of participation in politics. Look what happens when people participate in politics (today). It's the stupidest dimension of society.
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Thanks for the explanation, Dr. Anderson. I find Arendt’s arguments and conclusions extremely weak. She seems to have a strong confirmation bias in favour of continuing the liberal state as the greatest good no matter what, and shapes her conclusions on other systems accordingly, leading her to conflate communists and fascists while herself agitating against mass democratic participation. What she puts forward is a dangerous ideology (of the idealised bourgeois republic) that sees itself as outside ideology.
If majority rule is not the case in a democratic society then it is not a democratic society. As simple as that. Arendt is the clearest example to help understand why philosophy does more harm than good 😢
"The thinking... Them thoughts are actually harmful, mate. Do not."
@@edcify8241 Thank you for your feedback. Not sure I fully understand your comment. Saying that thinking is bad is harmful? Thinking can be 'good or bad' depending on many factors. I am sure Arendt was well intended, but she is being irresponsible.
@@fl3651 If anything, irresponsible how?
But see Mary McCarthy -
Are you sure Arendt's talking about Nazis or Trump?