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POE Pre 3.25 Loot Filter Improvements - Filterblade Overhaul - Path of Exile
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- #poe #filter #pathofexile
Neversink's Filterblade website is arguably the second most important POE third party resource, behind only Path of Building. It getting overhauled is critically important to veteran POE players and still important to new players.
0:00 Intro; why Filterblade changes are so important
0:35 How Filterblade balances new players and veteran players & why both groups should care
0:49 The Front Page Of Filterblade - First Loot Filter Decisions
1:30 Filterblade Is Designed For Newer Players - Here's How Veteran Players Should Adjust
2:38 The Front Page - Filter Overview section (might be a work in progress)
3:04 Customize Tab - Where The Meat Of Filterblade Is
3:34 The New Tiering System. "S Tier" etc.
4:47 Other Minor Sections - Example Of Customizing Essences (mostly unchanged)
5:38 Other Major Changes - Unique Items & POE Game Client Limitations On Them; Tierlist Changes
7:15 Two Types Of Uniques That Break The Rules - Heavy Belts (might be Mageblood), Lacquered Helmet (extreme roll range)
8:24 The Divination Card Changes - Also Got The Tierlist Changes
8:55 The Mostly Unchanged Sections
9:57 Changes to the Simulate tab & final thoughts
Filterblade link: filterblade.xyz
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"Style and advanced are not that important"- I spend 15 minutes every new league wondering which colour fits, it's super important
Fair point. Maybe I just love the default ones
Neversink color scheming is dogwater poop. Look at Stupidfathobbit filter if you want some inspiration for a better color scheme.
I Also have to change Color every league
@@sirgog Same here, I prefer default.
I sometimes scour the internet for new sounds to put into the filters, from nostalgic video games from my past to AI voice generation. It's super fun to play around with/breathe fresh air into the game
Thanks for the review. I somehow completely missed it when it went live!
Some notes:
- You correctly assessed that the strictness-naming is designed for new players and consistency (because everyone is used to that strictness grading). Every league I get the urge to rename them.
- I think every single section in the customizer has changed. However, all customize changes were essentially just renaming, restructuring and improving navigation. Filter changes are coming with the 3.25 update.
- The filter can actually distinguish replica and non-replica uniques. There's a replica tierlist at the bottom of the customizer
- There's a huge rework to the 'my filters' screen (once the user logs in), allowing users to better organise and maintain their changes (+migrate them into new versions)
PS: As discussed, I'm currently looking into better 'economy-markings' for roll-dependent items and also checking out your idea with the mythic-orb targets. I hope to have something ready by league launch
The box on the simulate tab is crucial. It not only shows how an item will look but tells you WHY it looks that way, which filter settings apply to it. So if you're ever confused about why the filter is doing what it's doing you can paste the item in and it will tell you. Really useful feature for confused new players and veterans with a lot of customisations.
How do I paste an item?
Neversink constantly brings features to filterblade that we didn't even know that we wanted, what a legend! Great breakdown too
Imo that sounds a lot like GGG xD official Filterblade when? PauseChamp
Love some of these UI changes - thank you for the walkthrough of the upcoming changes.
Thanks mate!
I feel called out with rain of chaos...
Does anyone else want a tour of SirGog's closet? This guy has the most amazing threads!
Automated value-based tiering was one of the most headache-inducing things I've ever had to fiddle with in my entire life. And that was just a set and forget thing. I hope I'll be proven wrong and everything's gonna be smooth as butter, but I do have some reservations about celebrating this. :D
Thanks for bringing us the news.
Neversink is doin god work as always,I kinda out of loop this past month been playing Elden Ring,thanks for the update Sir G.
Yeah I think a lot of people are off on other games at the moment.
Good Video Sirgog! commenting for the Algo :D
Still waiting for GGG to extend the pickup range to the screen. We can do that with coffins !
Press CTRL 2x {or button you use for showing loot] it will reset positions.
@@MAX-zl1cg default is z
@@MAX-zl1cg Not talking about the missallignement.
You have to be within two pixels of the loot to pick it up but you can select the "pick coffin" option from meters away so obviously, there is nothing technically that prevents GGG to allow us to pick up items from far away.
@@Melpheos1er I think GGG mentioned this exact topic or something very similar in an interview and their stance was along the lines of global pickup range is in slippery slope territory for adding too much automation in a way. Might be misremembering, but i think this topic was brought up
@@Melpheos1erI think this is a major problem for free for all loot in parties. I imagine that's why they haven't implemented it. I think pick up range could be increased slightly so you can pick stuff up on ledges though. That would be huge for qol
Legend❤
I haven't played for two leagues now so this coverage is much appreciated. Thanks, sirgog!
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Craft of exile 🗣️🗣️🔛🔝🔥🔥
Yeah that's my number 4, and wealthyexile the number 5
Hm, ok, i' ve got some work to do to fix my filter with quake sounds.
Oddly satisfying combination. Maybe it's just me but i can't live without armorshard pickup sound.
I love some of the creative filters. There's one that did the rounds with, uh, suggestive Maven voice lines...
Based! Where do you put the HUH sound?
I spent a solid 5 hours this league optimizing my 3 primary filters. And once the new league is on, then I know I will have to do it again. But this time, it will be easier. 😊
i dont know if its a bug in filterblade but eveytime i load my filter, i have to go back in the essence tab and uncheck "Highlight essence by type" because it gets re-aded to my filter every single time. kinda annoying. Anyways, i now have dosens of hours to spend on making my item filter exactly like i want it.
If you download the filter does it still update with the economy or do you have to redo your loot filter every couple of days? Confused by the softcore minute by minute economy
If you download the file, it doesn't update automatically. However, if you save the filter on filterblade, you can just hop in and re-download it, and it will have the latest economy changes merged in (except for anything you've explicitly overridden)
Same goes for syncing to PoE, unless you're a patron, I believe. I think you need to log in and re-sync your filters over every time you want to update.
He should make all category rankings to be tier based (essences). More consistent and noob friendly. He might be working on that though. Big fan of Neversink and all his work. Dude is a legend!
The tiers of items is not always obvious (and programmatically available) and even less linked to their price/value. I also think most players just care about the value. If there's going to be a consistent tier API I might consider it as an optional mode. Thanks for the kind words.
Anyone know why the uniques that are hidden still drop with a sound? It's frustrating late game when you hide most things but keep hearing sounds for hidden uniques dropping everywhere.
I don't think that sound can be turned off
40/40 waiting for 3.25
I'm still on 31, not sure if I'll push 40 or not. I'm not that far off.
Your foundry tip was super helpful while pushing my last 40th challenge of 4k tiers..
I didn't care for an eagle on top of my totem but from 9 leagues ago decided to push for it each time 💪
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@@Keschoo yeah foundry is fast but is subtle about being fast
neversink stable = filter for ssf. Some guys asking why their "needed" item is hidden, that's because they are on sc economy instead.
much more noob friendly. the work these 2 put at this project!
I like the changes but I wish he had a stable SSF base filter. I don't care at all about the current value. I don't want the base to change at all. Just add new stuff to the filter each league. It would be nice to just start a league.. put last leagues filter in and click update to add new stuff so it continues to work. More like a "standard" SSF league filter
Use Stable. It only gets adjusted at the start of the league and barely changes, unless GGG patches thigns. You can lock tierlists if you want to keep the same tiering throughout multiple leagues as well.
@@NeverSink that's what I do, I'm just saying I wish there was a base version that was based on rarity and usefulness instead of economy. You're killin it though. Keep up the good work
Def gonna have to play with this again next league. I play SSF only and I'm really bad about adjusting my lootfilter. Used Dynamic Lootfilter a couple leagues ago bc it let you quickly adjust which crafting bases to keep but it stopped working unfortunately. Now it looks like I should be able to do that more easily in filterblade. I also remember last league I tried to hide all rares in filterblade using the search bar on the right but it just wouldn't work and would still highlight random rares. Hopefully that's easier now.
Those "random" rares are most likely a) corrupted rares with good implicits b) "Temple or Delve Mods" special drop only mods c) identified rares with tier 1 mods (less likely now that corrupted items drop unid) d) bases with 100% rolls oder very high ilvl (86+) e) veiled mods
@@saexy_potato I tried turning off all the crafting bases and high ilvl bases. I think some of the rares that still showed up were for some vendor recipe maybe?
@@xTobsecretx possibly vendor recipes (6 socket, 6 link, white sockets(not dropping any more)), high roll bases (armour/weapons have intrinsic ranges on their base stats) these items will drop most likely unid, or the aforementioned Temple/Delve Mods (Those always drop identified btw).
You can copy an item in PoE (classic shortcuts) and paste it into the simulate tap in filterblader to see which rules apply to it.
No shirt swap?😂
ALL of your large stacks are turned off. Including 3 mirror drops from Betrayal.
Turning off large stacks lets the non-stacked section take over. It just removes distinction between single and non-single. So he's doing allright.
This is huge, i hated the previous UI and this makes it very intuitive and easier. it's a bit early for a drink, so i'll stick to a CHEAP COFFEE.
put loot filters in game
i would argue filterblade is more mandatory to play the game than pob
3 weeks
Based on past practice, 3 weeks is now out of the question. In almost every league GGG have given a teaser on the 20th day before the start, which would have been ~8 hours ago. And a league namedrop ~22 days out.
@@sirgog i need it to start 26 july, so in 3 days we get the teaser. We have to 😁😁
I'm 2000k hours in and still cant figure out to customize the dropped gear loot on this.
The colored coded section makes no sense to me
Looks like a *slight* exaggeration... 2 million hours is 228 years.
Damn you just did poe ninja dirty poeninja>poedb
Well, db has datamined info that is extremely useful, while ninja is basically just a market viewer and leaderboards. I rate db higher
Ninja is very useful but the economy side gets attacked with malicious false information too much. If they can ever figure out ways to stop that, the site will become higher up.
It's a very tough problem though.
Most of your channels viewership is new players? I imagined the exact opposite.
no I was saying the opposite; new players may find this video so I wanted to add a few basics for them that my core viewers all already know
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Shit, if thats a veteran i guess all of reddit might as well be founders lol
Noone has an agreed upon description of how experienced players are. Three level 90s is mostly aimed as a line that a genuinely new player knows they haven't crossed; that's the intention there.
FWIW, I think that the "top 1%" line now is "Mageblood by day 5; if they want it". Top 10% is "4 voidstones by day 5".
Simulate tab is my go to for culling garbage I'm tired of seeing
does not fucking work this patch
I wish filters where easier to make on console. Been playing for 6 years and still to this day I’ve never made one. Awesome to see filters getting better just bummed that it’s only really for pc players :/
It's not. You need to login on filterblade and then you can export filters to your poe account and directly load them on console (don't forget to set the platform when exporting).
PoB and poedb are nowhere near the level of necessity filterbalde has. If you want to make a top 3, its #1 Filterblade, then a loooooooooooooong gap, #2 PoB and #3 poedb, without filterblade the game is literally impossible to play
Yeah, w/o proper loot filters, I wouldn't play -- far too much garbage to sift through w/o one
loot drfops are so bad, pretty much the only stuff I pick up is decent currencies, good fractured bases, and non garbo uniques/div cards
I'd say more people use awakened trade the poedb
Edit) S tier is so ubiquitous online, I can NOT believe you felt the need to explain it.
You are so unnecessarily long winded, you over explain everyrhing, you use 10 words where 2 would do.
Your 10 minute videos could be cut down to 5 or less every time.
While you might be fine with the tldr version, newer players might like the longer winded version
Trash take, please check yourself and be respectful of sirgog's hardwork.
I get the point where you try to be constructive with your feedback, but it somewhat misses that line and borders an aggressive stance.
As a long time viewer, I personally prefer sirgog's approach.
If you're polite, a more appropriate take would be to request a TLDR / summary chapter in his videos.
I just hold left click for the 2x skim mode. Easy fix for us advanced players.