How to Make Low Angle Hand Plane : Bevel down Jointer Plane
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- I have wanted a Bevel down Low angel plane for a long time. they are great for figured wood but still being easy to work like their cousins the Low angle bevel up planes. this was made with a Hock iron and the body is from Hard Maple. the wedge and button are from Epay. this is also a collab with Rex Krueger. He is also making a Bevel down low angle plane over on his channel.
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I've never seen a plane work so well!
You and Rex couldn’t be more different.....or more similar 😄. Much different approach but the same friendly “approachable” attitude and willingness to teach and help. I’ve been a casual woodworker for 40 years and have learned more from the two of you in the last month about hand tools (planes especially) than I ever knew before.
thanks man. Hoping to take a trip out to his place some time. we have been wanting to get together for a video for a wile.
I've got the FEE-VA. Initially thought I'd be good with 1-2...up to 6 now, lol. But NOT LOL because I didn't get the wooden shoe memo, and dropped a chisel. Crocs don't cut it, but are easily cut. Luckily no nerve or tendon damage, but lesson learned. It was a short 3/4" Craftsman socket/bench chisel. Not heavy, and fell from bench height. So if anyone reads this, those clogs aren't just a fashion statement! ps, thanks for the sharpening tips.
I’m glad to see a traditional plane making tutorial. Every other one I see on RUclips cuts the plane in half and glues it back together after the cuts are made.
Was that a chubby checker reference joke at the intro 🤣 the limbo song
When Rex made his iron, I was really hoping he would grind it by hand, just to safe face for making fun of you
Lol that would have been funney!
Is that GIMP I see on the monitor? If you go to Windows -> Single Window Mode in GIMP you can do away with that ridiculous 3-window thing. I've been using that program for like 20 years an I still don't know why they do that.
uzimonkey yes it is. I love the multipul window setup. I have 4 moniters on my computer, an it is nice to move them around. I do the same for video editing.
Now that you've had it a few years... how would you say it compares to your low angle bevel up? Particularly curious about end grain and softer woods--I feel like a lot of people don't talk about how great low angles are on stuff like pine and spruce
I use it when I have long end grain work. But most of the time I grab the LAJP as it is easier to hold.
Tools needed for making your own plane. A lot of different planes. But nice video!
Lol yup
I am sure it can be done with just a chisel.
I like your plane betterbecause it is wood. I too use rock maple and Ipe for planes. I prefer Japanese style pull planes though.
Wooden planes do feel so nice.
Put a handle through the body horizontally, and you get a Chinese style plane.
right on.
Those white oak endgrain shavings look beautiful. Sir, you made a tool worthy of a master woodworker.
Thanks. It sure is a fun one to play with!
Hey James, I love the fact that you took his cheeky comment and turned it into an opportunity! It's all in good fun. I love how each of you took a completely different approach to the idea. Both of them came out awesome!
thnaks man! I love the idea of using corean. it is on my list of substances to use some day!
12:15 It's settled then - my bevel up metal block plane is fucked up! I can't even get it to shoot beech properly. It's weird that I've decided to switch to wooden planes a while ago and yet I've put so much effort into tuning up that metal critter after that decision. My brain seems to be shutting down completely sometimes...
This is awesome!!!! I need to make one of these!!
It is easer then it looks.
Did the world run out of White Oak? Ha! Great video, Jimbo. Great tutorial, and the final product looks great!
Lol I know. I just found out that there are other woods out there.
I'm a newb.Can you explain the sticks at 11:40?Thanks for sharing!
you can look across the top and see if there is any twist int he board. the sticks will exaggerate any change. here is a long format on making a pair and using them. ruclips.net/video/wfVp9D8mg_c/видео.html
@@WoodByWright Thanks for the info!!
Really like this one. You should sell these, I'd be in for one.
Thanks. But I don't like selling what I make. Takes all the fun out of it.
True, still a cool plane though, nice work
thank you James
Your is the supreme tool.Subscribed.
I also saw his video where he loughed on hand sharpening a plane blade in shape and use instead a grinding machine.In that case Rex was absolutely wrong.I would never ever let a novice woodworker near the grinder ,first things first the novice have to learn how to restore the sharpness or shape of a blade by hand .He also said that is not easy to mess up or toast a blade with the grinder .Well i have news it is ,and i did it more than once which always gave me more to work after by hand than if i would just do it by hand all the way .
Man, are you wearing wooden shoes? Cool!
Yep. Best shop shoes you could ever ask for. Incredibly comfortable and protective.
Hey James, really came out beautiful !
Thanks Bill.
Nice work 👍
thank you
@ about 11:54, you tap the square button with a mallet before you tap the wedge on the plane iron. What does tapping that button do?
That is where you tap the plane to retract the iron.
That's what happens when "your angels fly to low to the ground" ?
Yup. So true
I bet a good number of the people who complain about you using BLO and paste wax "too much" are the same people who use poly on literally everything.
LOL probably a good guess!
Do you use boiled linseed oil and paste wax in nearly every project? It feels like it. But how many youtubers finish everything in water based poly?
on all of my hand tools. just can not beat the feel!
Love Rex’s videos and just found you - will check out all your videos! Btw, do I need to be bald to do great woodworking? Lol
Lol it doesn't hurt. Thanks.
How do you like working with the ipe? I'm making winding sticks out of some ipe I got from a scrap bin, and I'm having a hard time keeping it from tearing out.
it is not an easy wood for hand tools. a ton of silicon content and requires a ton of sharpening but so beautiful!
Job well done. Loved the way the shavings came off at the end.
Have watch both of your co-fab plane builds. Have to say quite honestly love them both. Yours is like an all wooden sloop racing yacht, and his looks it is inspired by a 1930"s sleek racing Deucenberg.
Thanks man. This was a fun one.
That, my friend, is totally cool!
Thanks Jim. This was a fun one.
Another wonderful, hand built tool. Nothing like them. Questions: 1) When you mark the width of the plane body do you saw on the outside (waste) side of the line and then plane down to the exact dimension? 2) Is your longer video going to include the technique of chiseling to an exact shape (the button hole is perfect). I struggle with that aspect of woodworking. Thanks James!
Thanks Bruce. I cut about 1/16" away from the line and then plane back to it. yup there will be 2 videos on cutting the ecapement. It is easer then it looks as long as you stay away from the line as long as possible.
Again, my thanks James. I promise not to harp on boxes any more. I just really like the boxes you made for the 45 and 55 Stanley planes. I enjoy all of your videos even if I will not make anything like the projects you show. I learn a lot from just watching. Happy Holliday!
Thanks. I will make a box or two some time in the future.
I love it James, What a beauty :) I've really got to make more planes after watching this :) Thank you ॐ
Thanks man. Looking forward to seeing it
This project will have to wait a couple of weeks. I’ve got some window frames to make. I need to stop watching your videos. I can’t keep up. I would really like a Norris style adjuster with the blade and cap iron. I’ll have to investigate that. I got some bees wax with jojoba oil today. I shall try that as a finish for it.
I was thinking of doing a noris ajuster, but with the low angle it was going to be a bit more dificult. Maybe on the next one.
Very nice work James, waiting for the next proyect! Greetings from Argentina!
thanks Gabriel!
Impressive. But given how much space is behind the blade, why not add a handle?
just a personal preference. I do not need it and find this more comfortable.
Really nice Plane and more so for making it yourself. It's been about a year since I made my last plane.. a coffin smoother. Maybe I should think about another tool project.
Thanks Peter. A coffin is on my list. Would love to see what you made.
Can you make a video on how to use antique wooden molding planes, Just picked up some nice ones from a flea market, ones from the 1870s in near mint condition. Just Im not real sure how to use them
That is on my list, but it is a long list.
Just wanted to say Happy Easter to my favorite YTr and his family. God bless.
Thanks man. That means a lot!
Great video as always James!!
One note, I think your audio was distorting a little. Pretty minor and maybe it was on my end but I just wanted to let you know since your av is normally so great. :)
Yup I did not check audio tell editing. And I ran out of time to reshoot the intro and outro
You showed me what a good man you are for the class response you formulated to Rex. Both planes came out beautifully and both videos were a blast to watch. Cheers my friend ...
Thanks David. Love his channel. Lots of great ideas.
You must be reading my mind. I really need this lately. Thanks!
My pleasure bill. more fun to come.
What angle of Jack planer
The bed on this one is 30 degrees. But most are 45 degrees
As always a nice video. I look forward to the in-depth videos. I am not sure if I missed it or you left it out of this video but what size of plane iron did you use? I have recently discovered ipe and I love it, i would like to see you use it in a larger project.
Thanks. It is the plane for a #4 or #5 so 2" wide. I only have a few scraps of epay. But I might do some thing fun on the future.
Whays the point of the btton?
It protects the body. You strike there to rettract the iron. it is usually made of a harder wood that does not dent as easily. And if you wear it out it is easier to replace the button.
Please tell me someone else saw the angel in the title sequence???
Welcome to Wood By Wright. We always have some fun in the title screens. As well as other spelling intrigues throughout the video.
@@WoodByWright then I am certainly glad I commented! My mother was a math teacher who laughed a lot about acute and obtuse angels😂
You finally saw that video where he was making fun of you? i thought you guys were buds when I saw that a while ago
LOL nope I just saw it for the first time a month or so ago.
Keep watching this video james cause I can't believe those end grain shavings. Now I'm obsessed dude!
I love end grain curls. so much fun!
Awesome video. Really wish there was more detail on mounting the blade.
Thanks. That means a lot. There is a full series on this build with a lot more detail.
hey there James... just consider me an ignorant for the question I'm going to make. but even if the bevel is down like in your plane don't you have to consider the upper line of the blade to determine the planing angle? anyway congr for the nice job!!
thanks. with he bevel down the angle is the work to the top of the iron (parallel tot he bed of the iron so just the angle of the bed). with the bevel up the angle is from the work to the bevel (angle of the bed plus the angle of the bevel). Does that answer your question?
@@WoodByWright thanks! my question was too fast and I didn't consider with bevel up you have to add the bevel angle to the blade bed angle. thanks again for sharing. I hope to make one on my own very soon. Cheers!
I watched this out of sequence. Your shop has really evolved!
Yeah it's fun to see how things change over the years.
Masterfully done. Thanks for sharing with us. I have been wanting to use a blade I have lying around and this is perfect for it.
Sweet. looking forward to seeing what you will make with it!
Looking fwd to the long format video
A link to the plane irons video would be useful information
Thanks.
Another great video James. BTW I love the BLO/wax finish.
Thanks man.
OUTFKNSTANDING, I hope I get a chance to make and use some nice tools.
Thanks man. You should. It is so rewarding.
Hey James not sure if I missed something but I'm wondering what the main use of a low angle plane is... Looks like a awesome tool. I'm looking forward to see the long version of the built! I'm getting in to plane making at the moment and I'm sure I can learn a lot from it
The lower the angle the easier it is to push and the better it does with end grain. but the higher the angle the better it does with figured or reversing grain.
Wood By Wright ahh OK that makes sense... Thanks a lot
Very impressive. Thanks!
Very nice, I’d like to make one soon. What are some good alternate wood choices than maple? Can you review the finer points of adjusting in the mentioned longer version? Thanks for all your inspiration.
Thanks I will be covering those in the longer videos. But most of the time the harder the better and the less porous the better so beach, hickory, Ash, oak. But most of the time hard maple or beach ate the most common.
It would work just would wear out a bit faster. If you are ok with that then it would be great.
Awesome job James watching those curls coming out of the plane was sweet.
Thanks man. This was a joy to make
Do you ever make anything with the curls? My dad used to play with them and make some cute art things for my sister and I. Was one of our favorite things. If you or your kids ever make anything with them, that would be a great video!
I have made a few things in the past. also, put them in a vase and use them for decoration.
I never thought of using them in a vase rather than the glass balls or sea glass. Great idea, thanks!
also great Christmas ornaments. or dip them in wax for fire starters. and if all else fails mulch for the flower beds.
Beautifully executed. thank you for sharing.
My pleasure!
Great job James! That looks absolutely elegant! I'm looking forward to your more in depth videos so I can follow along and make my own. :)
Thanks man. They will be fun.
Hey James, I just thought of something you might like. I don't know if you're looking for something to make on your spring pole lathe but I just wanted to suggest maybe making a yo-yo for your kids or even for yourself. Just a suggestion.
Thank you for all your great content. I continue to learn a lot from your videos.
That would be a fun build. I might have to add that to the list.
It would be a fun video to watch. Also great job on the plane. I think its a simple but beautiful look.
Thanks Justin!
Very nice!
Thanks Bill.
Very nice!
Thanks Craig!
great job! love watching your videos
Thanks Adam. That means a ton.
Very good James!
Beautiful plane James! Thanks for sharing it with us.😎👍JP
Thanks man. This was a fun one for sure.
You're very welcome James! Happy Easter 😎
Would make a nice shooting plane. What angle did you sharpen the blade given the 30degree bed angle?
I might make one in the future for shooting. This one was sharpened to 25 degrees.
I'm trying to remember off the top of my head: with bevel down, you subtract the bevel angle from the bed angle to get "clearance" angle, which can be problematic if under 12 degrees, so says my woodworking book (I'll try to find it again). Imagine if both the bed and bevel were 25: every part of the bevel would be flat against the surface. Anyway, I guess the 12 degree warning is wrong since youre doing fine with 5.
Jason J. Ayala P. As a general rule of thumb that is ok, but way off on some things. If you always start at the end of the board you do not need a clearance angle and a lower clearance angle just means slower engagement in the middle of a board. This plane has a 5 degree clearance angle. This means it will take 1/2"-1" to startid board. For most work that is not a problem at all. And for jointing it works perfictly.
lol ur using a low angle plane to make a low angle plane ;)
That is the only way. Lol
I’ve got a piece of live oak I’m going to make into a plane.
That would be sweet!
That is incredible! Such a beautiful plane.
Thanks Scott!
Hey James that turned out awesome, I especially like the little bead at the front for tapping on for adjustments! By the way have you given any more thought till what we can collab on?
Thanks man. I am open to ideas.
Wood By Wright how about a jewelry box, I could get the carcass built send it to you you could make the inside dividers and then do a great carving job on it?
Sounds like fun. What do we do when it is done.
Wood By Wright I'll leave that up to you James, you can donate it, you can auction It Off, give it to your wife or daughter makes no difference to me my friend it's all part of the collaboration!
Opa's Workshop send me an email and we will set something up.
taking that first shaving had to be so satisfying!
oh it always is. so much fun for a plane to take its first shavings.
Really cool plane James.Great Job.
Thanks Joe.
Great plane JW. Looks really nice to use too.
thanks Thomas. she is a beauty to play with!
Very nice plane. I always get happy when I plane end grain and get them curls too. Must be a hand tool thing LOL
Oh ya got to love end groin curls.
did you make those cloggs?
yup. I have a video on carving them. though I want to do anther one some time.
Works pretty good for a kidder.
Nice work, gives me some good ideas.
Thanks David.
You have Reached A New LOOOOOWW
LOL thaks Jeff!
"angel" in the title card and one in the description *headdesk*
Welcome to the inside crowd. I do something to every tital card for those that like to watch for that kind of thing.
Wood By Wright weel played :D
That plane needs a tote and knob. 😀
Lol. Where is the fun in that?
That turned out fantastic, not to mention how easy you make it all look
Should be fun seeing how it stands up over time
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
They are so much fun to play for.
Very nice work James!
Thanks man.
Cool!!!
Thanks man!
I always watch your channel with pleasure. Thank you.
Данил Евстегнеев thanks that means a lot
Really nice James! 👍👊
Thanks Fred.
So beautiful. I love the shape. Can't wait for those details.
Thanks man.
Are you making a matching plane mallet? That would be sweet!
Just waiting on Part 4. Need to get these plans very soon. Thanks for sharing your skills.
Excellent...!
Cheers...
thnaks Adam!
Well done James.
Thanks man.
beautiful
Thanks.
whats the button do?
To ajust the iron out you tap the body there. The button protects from dents.
ohh that makes a ton of sense, still new to a lot of the old hand tool stuff but thanks for explaining and for the great build
That is a gorgeous tool and with a hock iron I'm sure it's fabulous to use. I was getting worried for a bit but there was some white oak at the end so I guess all is well. Congratulations, that is very well done indeed!
Lol yup I had to get the oak in there some how.
You know, I'd like to express my admiration for you. Someone was a little bit abrasive, but instead of escalating the conflict, you turned it into an opportunity and built a new partnership out of it. That's the kind of thing we really need to see more of these days. My hat is off to you, sir.
Thanks Tyler. I do prefer to build bridges than walls when possible.
I was a little bit abrasive. James was very nice about the whole thing.
kneeling on the floor with a 2 foot wide 20 foot long piece of sandpaper is really abrasive.