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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
- When will the Notre Dame domino fall in conference realignment? The ACC's turmoil has college football buzzing. Could the Fighting Irish finally ditch independence and join the Big Ten or SEC for a shot at the big bucks and a national title run? We break down the pros, cons, and what it means for the future of college football. Also breaks down latest with UNC North Carolina Tarheels drama. And discusses FSU, Clemson and others in the ACC.
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FSU and Clemson - as the premier football powers in the conference - have landed a fatal blow on the ACC. No matter what ends up transpiring with the litigations (and how long they take), it’s safe to say both will end up in the P2 and remain competitive power programs going forward.
On a related note, it is sad to watch the “Tobacco Road” heritage diminish before our very eyes. It’s truly one of the more unfortunate casualties of the evolving college football power structure. The harsh truth is that basketball and other revenue sports do not match the remarkable and ever-growing value of college football. Programs like UNC, Duke, Kansas and others will in all likelihood take on tier 2 status in the evolving P2 framework. While the P2 may end up accommodating some of these programs, they will only serve as chum to the alphas in both the SEC and B1G. What remains to be seen is how basketball and other sports fare within the coming landscape. The internal struggles and financial problems in Chapel Hill make this all the more evident.
47 year ND FAN HERE and we will be in the Big 10 in 2-3 years
If u were a ND fan you would know we hate big 10 cause they denied us in past for being catholic
@@happynotredamefan3736 Uh, that was Michigan who is a non-founding member and all of those folks are dying or dead. Blaming PSU and USC for something Michigan said is ridiculous. The school is Catholic but 90% of your fans are not.
@@happynotredamefan3736 Blame Michigan. It was their decision back in the day.
@@happynotredamefan3736 That was a century ago. We don't live in that world anymore buddy! See you soon!😁
That's right!
The guy said the SEC doesn't have a premiere basketball team. Kentucky has 8 National Titles more than any ACC team. 🤣🤣
but the SEC is trash now so what is your argument for that?
Yeah, but that was 12 years ago.
@@falcn828 Don't really care.
@@freeclimb5487 NC won their last one 8 years ago so I guess the cut off is somewhere between 8 and 12 years. NC is only a few years from not being a premiere team based on your criteria.
It’s it’s never about money. Notre Dame raised 500 million in just two years to build add-ons to the stadium. Money will never be an issue.
Yeah, right. You just keep on thinking that.
@@robertstone5747Notre Dame has an UNTAPPED $25 billion endowment fund. You keep on thinking whatever misguided BS you want to think but I'll guarantee you this: You'll be wrong. 💯🤷🏽♂️
See you soon Notre Dame! I am inevitable.
Sincerely,
The Big Ten
Oh . I thought you were Thanos😊
You keep spouting the same nonsense day in and day out. Notre Dame doesn't bend the knee.
@@Patrick-sg7cm Watch the video. Yes it will. All in due time my friend.
@@briggsofdisaster I did. The Big 10 should have invited Notre Dame many decades ago when they had the chance. You snooze, you lose.
See you never big 10
- Notre Dame
The way the playoffs are currently constituted (yea, I know that may not be for long) Notre Dame is in a pretty good spot if they finished undefeated
A 5 seed is often a waaaaaaay better position than the 2 or 3 (and in some cases the 1) seed if you go back and apply the 12 team CFP model over the last 10 years.
This is because of how the seeding is set up with automatic qualifiers from the G5, Big 12 and ACC.
1) The 5 seed will get a home game against the G5 rep in almost every scenario. That's a home game gimme to the round of 8/quarterfinals.
2) In the quarterfinals the 5 seed will play the 4 seed. The 4 seed is going to be the weakest P4 champ; so the Big 12 or ACC champ. That's the easiest draw to the semis as most years you'll be playing Utah, K State, etc instead of Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia, Bama, etc.
With how things are currently set up, with the auto bids, the 5 seed is by far the best route to the semis. The extra game you play will be a home game against a cupcake and the quarterfinal game will be against the weakest P4 champ. If you're the 1-4 seed, sure you'll get a bye, but you'll be playing a quarterfinal against the best At Large teams, which are almost certainly always going to be better than the Big 12 or ACC champ going forward. Would you rather play the second (or even third) best Big Ten or SEC team or the Big 12 champ? Or a champ from an ACC that is about raided of its best teams?
This is why auto bids have to be eliminated: it incentivizes finishing 5 over 1-4.
I’d love to see ND in the Big10. Great schedule every year. Bring back ND vs Michigan every year. AWESOME 👏☘️🏆
I am a Notre Dame fan and the time is coming to join a conference. I can see it when their NBC TV deal expires after the 2029 season.
Maybe not even then...I think apple, Amazon and Netflix are going to be big players in college football by then.
See you then!
I think it's 2029 as well since that's when the B1G TV deal is renewed.
@@heartbreak25 Yup!
They could but for right now I see Netflix Amazon going after the NFL. Apple I think will clean up in college sports.
Rumor is that N.D. made more as an independent than with the ACC. What do you think FSU would do as an independent again ? FSU and Miami did well as independents .
As a Miami fan, your forgetting something! When, FSU and Miami were independents, the cost of doing the business of CFB was far less than now. Both would have to get a tv deal just like Notre Dame has with NBC to make it even feasible. Then, they have to have schedule of opponents that will make money for them.
Swarbrick (our former AD) lobbied to bring in Stanford, Cal and SMU. I think that indicates ND wants the ACC to survive, even if a few teams leave. That would obviously weaken the conference though, if Clemson and FSU left.
It has hard to predict what is going to happen.
FSU and Clemson do fit in the B1G! The B1G is building the national college football...Gooooo Bluuuuuueeeeee!
They don't fit as well as other schools such as NC, Miami, Ga Tech and ND. I don't see the Big 10 taking Clemson and FSU
@@ronwilde1595 FSU is HOMERUN for Big 10. They would be idiotic not to take them. I actually GET your argument about GA Tech over Clemson. I agree Miami and NC are natural fits. BUT FSU is the biggest home run possible for the Big 10. "academic fit" mean nothing compared to add the FSU football brand. FSU vs OSU PSU Michigan Oregon USC etc these are all 10 million viewer games, BIG MONEY TV GAMES to sell. The Florida market especially with Miami covering the whole state and the amount of Big 10 transplants there and the amount of recruits there. It's NO BRAINER for Big 10 to add Florida State.
The Big 10 will only take one school from Florida. Taking two wouldn't offer any additional value and Miami is a way better fit. While not technically a requirement AAU membership means everything to the Big 10 and Miami is a member and FSU isn't
FSU has short term goals to gain AAU membership and is currently working in that direction
@@ronwilde1595 taking 2 in Florida makes alot of sense. They are drastically different areas. South Florida is it's own thing. Miami is a brand that draws eyeballs. If Big 10 is trying to attract Notre Dame it also makes sense to grab Miami. Florida State is on a different coast really, they are in the heart of SEC country. Miami is it's own thing I think Big 10 would be stupid to turn them down. If it come down to adding Miami or Virginia, Miami or Duke it's no brainer for money and for recruiting to add Miami.
Watch Brett Yormark of the Big12 a Acc type deal
Notre Dame can save the ACC. A twenty-team conference and a five team “Legacy” division featuring ND, Miamii, BC, Navy and Army will be great for TV ratings. A seven-game schedule would make it possible to retain rivals, USC, Purdue, Michigan, and Michigan Stare.
I’ve never met a Notre Dame graduate tbh. Also, FSU will not play 2025 season in the ACC.
ND would be contiguous in the SEC. LSU at ND would be epic.
The BIG is their best option considering The ACC Will either not exist or be a shell of themselves in the future. Maybe they could do a scheduling agreement with a different conference but joining the BIG would allow them to have a national schedule of Midwest, West and South ( when they add FSU) schools. When the BIG goes to a 10 game conference schedule they can still play Navy and rotate between Stanford and Cal for that second non-conference game. We will see what happens though, they cherish their independence.
it's smartest option like you said WHEN the Big 10 adds the Southeastern teams.
@@tomdemay6147 we will see how serious the BIG is about that AAU requirement.
@@ChrisSadowski-pp1np nobody cares about AAU. This is about football TV money both long and short term.
@@tomdemay6147 to the BIG it does, I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but every school they've added has had that.
@@ChrisSadowski-pp1np I think their still pretty serious but as you said we'll find out. The thing about it is the Big 10 can accomplish all their expansion goals without having to take a non AAU member. ND would be the exception if I'm not mistaken they're not AAU but they fit in academically.
… well, if we’re going on hatred, I’m pretty sure FSU is not gonna end up in the SEC😂
FSU, UNC, Notre Dame, and Kansas all end up in the Big 10!
PERFECT! No interest in the Hillbilly League! BIG10!!!
@@rlhaff3560 Watch Your Tongue!!! Ohio and Pennsylvania are full of hillbilly's.
The BigTen offers Notre Dame a total payout of $110 million per year. It is in the TV contract. That’s a $40mil per year raise.
This week’s settlement will dictate a lot.
How are they gonna make $110 million??
Yup Notre Dame is leaving a lot of money on the table by not joining the Big 10. Btw that $110 million will only go up when ND joins.
@@Drollpanther If the Big 10 were to add FSU and Notre Dame do you realize how much the TV contract goes up. ND or FSU versus Oregon, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, USC etc those are all HUGE MONEY TV games. The more of these type of games you can offer the TV networks the more you will get from them. And it's not just your tier 1 rights but your tier 2 games become more valuable and down the line.
The B1G and SEC would be overjoyed to land ND. They will be the final piece on the board.
The massive offer to ND could be if you want to play against B1G conference teams, you'll join the B1G conference. Especially if Stanford joins. The B1G and SEC have enough blue bloods they don't ever need to play out of conference again. That's if they chose not to.
If the B10 wanted Stanford, when it comes to CFB, they just would gotten USC, UCLA, Stanford and California versus Oregon and Washington. This is about CFB brands!
Unc is a big ten school. Through and through. More so than Clemson.
You're right pretty much a perfect fit. They are an AAU school and the number of sports they have line up perfectly with the Big 10 not the SEC. From what I've read they would have to get rid of some of their lesser sports if they joined the SEC.
@@ronwilde1595 i dont think thats accurate. They actually culturally do fit the SEC more than the Big 10. Maybe a better academic fit in Big 10. But the Carolina crowd is "good ole boys" would fit right in with SEC. as far as "lesser sports" SEC has most of em and the ones they don't have would just find independent leagues.
@@tomdemay6147 You're probably right on cultural fit. I think both the SEC and Big 10 are going to want UNC bad it'll be interesting to see where they end up.
@@ronwilde1595 no doubt about it. not my favorite team i actually hate UNC but they will be able to pick their landing spot. Their brand power, their influence and the benefit of adding the state of NC to conference footprint. I think Big 10 is smarter move for most teams but with UNC it's tough to tell. Probably still Big 10 but I can see the fit with SEC too especially if SEC was adding teams like Virginia, Clemson, Duke. If the SEC rumors about Kansas are true too. The money would be close enough but UNC would rather be playing Kansas, Kentucky, Virginia and Duke in basketball than playing Ohio State, USC, Florida State in football.
@@tomdemay6147 Maybe I'm a little bias I'm a Michigan fan and would love to see them in the Big 10.
What if...and hear me out, ND makes a deal to play five BIG10 and five SEC teams a year, plus Navy and an Independent, and that gives them an opportunity to still make the playoffs at a 5 seed at best?
The B1G...and hear me out...does NOT do scheduling agreements. Either you're in, or you're out.
I’m surprised nobody is talking about Notre Dame’s other sports playing a factor in forcing them into a conference.
If the ACC falls apart, all the other sports will need a home. No other conference will make the same deal of quasi-independence like the ACC did with ND ten years ago. So if the ACC goes, ND has to join a conference, most likely the B10.
ND doesn’t care about never getting placed higher than 5th, they helped orchestrate the deal. They don’t have a conference game and it can give them a first round home game in South Bend. Both ADs this year expressed how they are fully ok with playing the same amount of games as everyone else.
If these four Team count to the big 12.
The big 12 would dominate the football in basketball.
Because it will be excitement., And that else real talk.
Notre Dame should consider the SEC, because it would give them an extra recruiting advantage over the Big Ten schools in addition to its national following. Being the only Midwest school in the SEC would allow them to tell recruits in Big Ten country that they can play in the league where the most NFL draft picks play, ND has enjoyed some nice rivalries with Alabama, LSU, Texas, and Tennessee in football, and they had a great rivalry with Kentucky in basketball. FSU, Miami, VIrginia, and Clemson can go to the Big Ten to give it a footprint in the South. North Carolina, Virginia Tech, Kansas, and Notre Dame to the SEC would balance it out.
😂 The Irish has the largest national following of any team in college sports. Did you not see the film Rudy? They're independent because they don't need any conference to provide those things you cited.
The B1G is a geographic, cultural, and academic fit. And it can also pay the most money since the Irish are already named in the B1G contract and NBC is already a B1G partner.
@@heartbreak25Ohio State has the largest following in the US.
You do realize that the Big Ten put more draft picks into the NFL last year than any other conference, right?
@@briggsofdisastercongrats on 1 year. Now do the past 20
@@latentprints360 True. Multiple surveys show it's OSU and not even close. OSU generally pushes around 5 million viewers while ND is around 2.7. The numbers vary year-to-year of course but OSU has significantly higher ratings vs. ND. I grew up in Michigan and hate OSU, however, I'm not going to lie and pretend they don't have the largest fanbase. All reports show they do.
What happens to Notre Dame Basketball and other sports? Back to The Big East?
B1G is their back up plan. If they end up there, which they very well could, it will be because the main plan fell through.
How is the Big 10 their backup plan? They'll make the most money by joining the Big 10.
@@ronwilde1595 That is probably correct but Notre Dame has shown us plenty of times that making the maximum amount of money that they possibly can, that really isn't their top motivation.
They want money that allows them to be competitive while at the same time allowing them the schedule that they want.
I’m hoping
SEC - Clemson, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, UCF, Oklahoma State. NC State, Kansas
Big 10 - FSU, Miami, Notre Dame, Virginia, Georgia Tech, Duke
UCF over Kansas State?
Duke over Pittsburgh?
are 2 examples where your list seems to fail.
Stanford is a better match with the B1G than Duke.
I'm Notre Dame fan. If ND is going to Big 10 I'm hoping they also add FSU, Miami, Georgia Tech and UNC. If they can't get FSU I would take Clemson and if they can't get UNC I would take NCSU. But I think the 4 i suggested are the best 4. The two big Florida teams which cover the whole state for recruiting footprint, Georgia Tech which ND has played alot also gives access to Georgia and Atlanta, and either of the Carolina schools for access to the North / South Carolina areas. I don't think you need Virginia. You already have Maryland and if you add UNC I think you can skip right over Virginia. Same goes for Clemson I think you can skip over them if you get Georgia Tech. With both Florida teams, Georgia Tech and UNC I think thats the strongest footprint 4 ACC teams can combine for.
@@fecat93 Stanford IS NOT A MATCH with anyone. Their football sucks, not just on the field but the enthusiasm sucks. It's a liberal hell hole on top of it not a place people want to travel to games for. doesnt draw shit for tv money. any conference that adds stanford is retarded. there is a reason acc is falling apart they a conference stupid enough to do something like that.
Duke is more valuable than Pittsburgh, especially to Big 10. Big 10 wants into North Carolina. They already have Pennsylvania with Penn State who is 5x more popular than Pittsburgh.
The only area where I see his list breaking down is by adding Big 12 teams. Most have no value for P2. UCF is GREAT ADD for Big 12, and will do decent there, but they offer no value to P2. Kansas has SOME value, more to SEC than Big 10 because SEC can afford to add more patsies for football since they are still ahead of Big 10 on the field. West Virginia, OK State these teams aren't gonna get offered by P2. They will be "mid majors" in the new order.
@@tomdemay6147 Based on historical opponents with ND - Pitt, Stanford, and GaTech are the top ones in the ACC. That would give every team that isn't an academy within the B1G.
USC, Purdue, MSU, (Pitt), Northwestern, Michigan, (GaTech), (Stanford), Indiana, and (BC) being the complete top 10 in order of most played to least played.
@@fecat93 yea but playing some of these teams means nothing. Playing Stanford is a gimmick. The real reason Notre Dame plays Stanford is so that it's easy to schedule with USC. Every year these games rotate so ND last game of season is always in California. This type of stuff doesn't matter if ND was to join a conference. There is NO PURPOSE for Stanford. To be an "academic rival" NO THANKS. ND has played Northwestern a million times. That game means nothing. Northwestern is a small tier 4 program while ND is a blue blood team. We have only played Ohio State like 7 or 8 times. It's a much bigger RIVALRY between fans of these teams that live in the same areas compared to Pittsburgh. If you ask ND fans would you rather play Pitt or Penn State every year 9 our of 10 will say Penn State. We have had some REAL GOOD GAMES against Penn State. Just a couple games but enough to have a little history. Doesn't matter we played Pitt 50 times. That said Pitt does matter a little bit. Some of these teams like Indiana don't matter. There aren't alot of recruits in Indiana. The ones that are there already have ND #1 on their list. Georgia Tech MEANS SOMETHING. Not because it's an "academic rival". But its location in downtown Atlanta. When Notre Dame plays there even if Georgia Tech sucks the stadium will be packed because its Notre Dame they are playing. The game will be on TV, on the radio etc it brings exposure to the program to recruits down there.
Believe me, not all Notre Dame fans believe that way need to join the conference and get this over with
it would be stupid to join now. ND has all the leverage. I agree ND should join long term but ND should be the LAST domino to fall. Let FSU and Clemson eat the court costs and exit fees. Wait and see who goes where. ND could go wherever it wants whenever it wants. If I was ND I would tell the Big 10 what teams I want (FSU, Miami, GTech, UNC) and tell them to get those teams and then I would join. Just my opinion. GO IRISH.
@@tomdemay6147and if Notre Dame tries to tell the B1G what teams they want the B1G will tell Notre Dame to for a conference with said teams…just my opinion…
@@davidmitchell3020 thats cool too then ND can go to SEC.
@@tomdemay6147 Yes they can if they wish and they can take their hockey team with them to the SEC.
@@tomdemay6147 They will be lucky to be 6-6 in the SEC. Their fans will get spit on at every game and they have no cultural or religious ties with the South or Southern Baptists. Only someone that hates ND would want the SEC. They will get destroyed and their brand has been diminishing for 30+ years. Over the last 10 years, OSU averages about 5 million viewers per season while ND which had its own network for home games (road games always televised too) is around 2.5 million. ND wouldn't even release the money NBC is giving them for the first time. Likely not 50 million and certainly has clauses based on schedule or if ACC teams deplete etc. I could embarass ND fans further with their last big bowl win or even natty. Its rival USC with massive sanctions and more than half down years has 2 AP national titles since 1994, 9 major bowl wins and 4 Heisman Trophy winners.
As an Independent, Notre Dame will still be able to obtain a slot in the new playoffs, so long as they have a deserving record. The problem will be seeding and bye-weeks. If the Power conferences have automatic bids, and other Power 2, 3, or 4 have teams with better or similar records, not to mention the automatic Group of 5 bid, Notre Dame may be in a situation where they have to accept a lower seed and forgo a bye-week. The other other issue will be money. If it goes to a Power 2, Notre Dame may be compelled to go to a conference so they can partake in those huge contracts. Accepting a lesser contract from NBC just to keep Independent may not be feasible. That being said, I hope Notre Dame finds a way to stay Independent.
Scheduling will become an issue. Whey would the Big 10 or SEC schedule them?
Creating a competitive schedule is only going to get harder when the B1G and the SEC go to 10 conference games or more. Scheduling the MAC and Big 12 teams won’t get you there.
They will never have a bye week as an independent, and if they are competing for a spot versus a Big or SEC team they will be left out. The future is very clear on the near horizon, this is going to become an AFC/NFC type of situation and those who do not embrace it will be left behind out in the cold. Need to let go of this delusional talk of being a national brand as well, this delusion allows for the flawed thinking the school is worth way more than it actually is. Notre Dame fans forget it has been 36 years since your last title time to live into the present day not the late 80s.
The teams the Big is looking at for spots to get to 24 would be Notre Dame, FSU, Clemson, Miami, maybe Stanford, maybe Kansas, etc…..
Damn right ND is strategic. A lot of their rivals have nothing to do with football....some of it is about sharing or not sharing, lucrative access issues. Plus, why would any P2 school vote for more expansion right now? It is definitely in everyone of their best interests, to let non P2 teams whither and die...especially FSU and ND. Most P2 teams would love to see those 2 to die in recruiting.
it's about money. no its not smart to let FSU die. Why would Big 10 do that when they could all 1) make 10 million a year more with FSU in Big 10 and 2) grab up part of the market share in the heart of the SEC (their biggest rival). Why would they "let them die" when they could add them to their conference and get EXPOSURE with recruits in that area and maybe a team like a Nebraska or Penn State can pull a couple more players out of Florida. "Let them die" so all the kids just go to Auburn and Miss State etc. MAKES NO SENSE.
Go Blue!
UNC could easily move up the CFB ladder with a conference move and dedication from the administration.
i dont think so. They will stay in their lane. No matter where they go. Their ceiling is where Missouri is now. UNC and NCSU both will end up in P2 conferences just for the recruiting footprint which other teams will abuse.
@@tomdemay6147 their ceiling is whatever their collective wants to spend. They might get sticker shock if they look into competing in the SEC. But do not fool yourself, UNC can afford it. Only question is do they have the will.
My guess would be no. They have always been satisfied with mid tier ACC. Top tier SEC is exponentially more expensive.
I'm saying that UNC has plenty of $. It's one of few schools that has the financial wherewithal to put a winner on the field.
If ND would jump to SEC big ten would make it impossible for any school to play them.
How exactly would that happen?
Stay independent and your future schedule
Will look like this years 2 MAC teams
And Army Navy.
Your November game at USC will be gone
As the Big Ten is not going to allow ND
To be in a spotlight season ending game
Exactly!
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The funny thing is Notre Dame isn't the only independent team yet there's no energy to land these brands to the conferences because of TV value so there will never be 2 conferences like the NFL because you can't make NFL money with college football not even close BUT GREEDY TV WILL TRY AND WHEN IT DOESN'T THEY WILL JUST CANCEL IT AND START SOMETHING ELSE because too much change can kill the sport ☘️
If Notre Dame wants to stay independent why not just go back to the big east.
But if they’re left out because I’m not being a conference, that’s the only reason he would you join
Visit anytime you want. Kings have been known to be crowned.
Give me your Address I have no issues at all son
🙄 is independence worth 40mil per year. For ND yes! They will chose independence over “the money”. It won’t be about money as the reason they join a conference. Also ND agreed to them toping out at the 5th seed. So they don’t think that sux. All they want is a chance.
You guys have no idea what you’re talking about.
Kentucky
Notre Dame knows if they join a conference they will never have a shot at a championship again.
I don’t think they have the guts to join the SEC.
Notre Dame Independence isn't driven by football or sports and this is the issue with outsiders using money 💵 or hypothetical future in football and you think in this fantasy amount of money like it's the NFL and it's not and never will be and these teams who are used to winning can't do it if you are playing top 25 teams every week and the top teams are going to want to pay less to other teams or kick teams out so what does that say it's always going to be a 3rd conference because of greed and top teams want to have advantages this was tried before and failed because they can't build it and make everyone equal partners ☘️
Why is there talk of UNC football being on the move. They haven't been relevant in football since 70s/80s. Even Wake & VaTech have won the conference in football since 2000, UNC hasn't since 1980 WTF are people talking about. 🏀 UNC I get.. Stop it..
Because the ACC is ready to implode. Also UNC is a brand name and offers value to the Big 10 or SEC. For what it's worth they are a better fit in the Big 10 so they will probably end up there. Nothing to do with them being a football powerhouse. Big 10 added Ruthers and Maryland to get New York and DC markets.
@@ronwilde1595except Md doesn’t completed give the DC market! VT has just as much influence as Md (and more as u get the majority of fans in the whole commomwealth) If you want to be factually correct.
10 years………..pipe dream.
Join a freaking conference & enjoy what you earn
What if Notre Dame creates a conference of their own with the ACC, the big 12 teams and creates a third mega conference 😮
Competitively that would make sense because they won’t be as competitive in the B1G or the SEC.
you will see! Every year ND is has a tough schedule.. only ignorant people don’t study the schedules think your way
@@TheIrishKing-1 Let’s see..“Every year Notre Dame IS HAS a tough schedule”….Only an ignorant person would make a sentence like that.
1988 is a long time ago and as of right now Notre Dame is not as significant as everyone thinks they are. They need to seriously consider joining a conference before the other conferences show them how truly independent they can be.
@@davidmitchell3020 first of all, I was speaking in the phone and didn’t realize it did not write out what I said exactly… second this marine recon can come and visit you and show you our ignorant. I am if you’d like.
@@TheIrishKing-1 I don’t care if you’re a marine mammal. You’re still showing your ignorance, maybe you should text because by just talking you continue to show your ignorance and keep in mind you’re the one that used the word first. There’s no need to be angry just because Notre Dame is not as significant as they think they are.
the existence of a p2 super "league" is official when nd joins. a league is called a "lleague" when it becomes THE F'IN LEAGUE. a singular independent makes no sense by definition
Notre Dame doesn't care if it doesn't get a top seed. That was the deal that we signed up for. We knew that going in that we weren't going to get a top seed or a buy. And that was worth it for all Notre Dame fans to stay independent. You guys keep singing the same thing over and over and over. Notre Dame doesn't want to do what you want them to do and they're not going to. Bye
And we wouldn't have to play more games than #1-4, either - because each of them would've played a CCG already, before the playoff.
ND the biggest brand in football? Yeah his dad must really be stuck in 1960 mentally
The biggest issue is outsiders want to hear what they want and they won't go to South Bend Indiana to Notre Dame campus and ask it to the Notre Dame President or Athletic Director BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH IT'S JUST ALL ABOUT THE CHILDISH AND DESIRE TO MAKE NOTRE DAME THE TEAM THEY HATE TO DO SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO ☘️☘️☘️ So they have endless shows but AD Pete Bevacqua has answered the question CRYSTAL CLEAR BUT THEY GO ASK EVERYONE ELSE WHO DON'T MAKE DECISIONS FOR NOTRE DAME BUSINESS WHAT NEXT TO FORCE THEM TO DO IT BECAUSE I'M A ASS HOLE HATER AT THE END OF THE DAY ☘️ GO IRISH INDEPENDENT FOREVER IT'S NOT A JOKE
UNC has improved vastly in football???? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah....
UNC is average or below average every single year in football. They've had lottery NFL QB's and they've been the definition of average. They are currently predicted to finish 11th in the sorry ACC. Can we ever please stop talking about the obsession with them as a football program. Literally more people show up for their midnight madness exhibition basketball game in November than a football game in November. They just don't care about football
Yeah, "Purdue is just going for the ride". They were just in the National Championship game. This guy is clueless
North Carolina isn't doing everything right in athletics...They get spanked by NC State in everything. Do your research.
Or pac 12
Notre Dame's best program is the Women's Basketball program. What have they done in the last 25 plus years. Football is overrated, Basketball squad not being anybody on the regular, Baseball is butt, TnF, blah. Maybe women's Soccer, Tennis, Golf? They better beat some quality squads and not get gassed during the playoffs.
😂😂😂
Uh sec doesn't have a big basketball entity? Is Kentucky not big hoopers lol. It's helarious watching RUclipsrs who don't know anything attempt to pretend to know stuff
More clickbait
Expect UNC and UVa to go Big Ten alongside Georgia Tech and Miami, with Florida State and Clemson joining the SEC. But expansion wouldn't end there. Cal and Stanford would enlarge the B1G to 24 members, with ND as a possible #25. The SEC would go to 20 with NCSU and Virginia Tech.
I don't get why people are pushing GT, just because they are in the south? Any team outside of Notre Dame joining the B1G will have to settle for half shares till 2030 as the ceiling, schools like GT would be lucky to get that. So it wouldn't be a financial windfall that some seem to suggest.
Georgia Tech is attractive to the Big 10 because the Atlanta is a top 10 TV market.
I think you're as close as anyone on what will probably happen. The only one I'm not sure of is UVa only because from what I've been reading they already have the DC market with Maryland so it may be redundant to add UVa but other than that they are a great fit.
@@ronwilde1595TV markets don’t mean nothing when everything is streaming. It’s about eyeballs and size of alumni base/interest…not where a school is located!
Could Notre Dame save the ACC by joining for football play?
Possibly, but the likelihood is Z-E-R-O.
yes they could. it would also be retarded for them to do that since it would just be charity while also giving up all their leverage
ND is the second biggest brand in CF. Texas is #1 by almost as big a margin as ND to OSU/Bama.
ND to SEC confirmed
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Can yall please stop talking abour Notrw Dame joining a conference? Its never gonna happen.
Never?!
@@CFBAddiction NEVER EVER !!!
Don’t be surprised to see ND in the SEC.
That's an even more delusional take than ND being able to maintain their independence in the near future.
Notre Dame joins a conference and they are just another team in that conference. Notre Dame has kept its uniqueness by being able to play big names in many conferences. That will be gone.
It’ will be gone anyway. When sec and BIG add more conference games nd won’t be able to schedule anyone in those conferences anyway. They are backed into a corner and any rational person can see this
@@mikemiller4726 Yup! They will become a nice story from College Football's yesteryear.
@@briggsofdisaster I thought they already were.
Fake click bait.
College football was so much better 50 years ago. Many people alive today don’t know how it used to be.
ND is the Paris Hilton of college football. Simply famous for being famous. We beat Army in 1929! Woohoo!
Yeah, a lot of people don't know that during the adding of the "4 corner schools" Notre Dame wanted into the Big XII, but the schools all decided that since they beat WVU for the Natty in 1988 thay it would be to painful of a reminder for WVU and it's fan base so they told them no...🤔...😐🤥😁.
You don't believe that? If ND want in that wouldn't stopped that. They are worth more then WV by far and I been a W V for 59 years.
@@user-xt5wu1dx9d it was a joke.