People somehow missed my multiple disclaimers that I do not claim to have invented this version of the build. This is Naecoban's video from earlier last week: ruclips.net/video/fajN5ZcumYo/видео.html&feature=share8 Now that being said, I theory-crafted this video months ago, but I didn't think of Decrepify being strong enough. No malicious stealing here, oddly enough multiple people are all playing similar builds at the same time. The game just released. During recording there were small amounts of lag on the video portion. Sorry if that's jarring, it's very noticeable during the Paragon section. Again, sorry. Maxroll Guide will follow in the next few days with optimized Paragon and gear options. Enjoy!
cant use black river FYI. When you combine black river and howl from below it breaks black river currently and it wont proc eating extra corpses. I had same thoughts a while back with that and its one or other, as currently sits they dont play with each other. Sadly dont think many have noticed this either as my forum posts go ignored. Also the AOE for corpse explode with black river on the mist is currently not enlarging as it should but you do get the dmg increase(this is without howl from below)
@MacroBioBoi Well, I don't know if it's a bug, but it definitely overpowers for the full duration when you have your guaranteed proc from rathma's vigor. I've been using it in my build, and it absolutely shreds anything
For anyone that saw this thinking they need black river, you don't. In fact black river makes this worse the fewer enemies there are because it sabotages your number of lucky hits as it combines up to 5 corpses for only a single CE cloud rather than individual clouds. Plus it only buffs the damage over time when most of our damage comes from the shadow blight keystone passive. Better off gearing full crit and vuln to proc shadowblight and get bigger crits. High lucky hit chance is still the way to go though.
This is accurate. Black River has a use in speed farming but not in most other content. Not only because of this, but its radius is bugged and does not increase when it should.
i hope a solid guide comes for this soon, really struggling to find a good build atm. Either hit like a truck but die fast or sustain and do nothing. Necro needs some dev love for more viable options
I would love to see a quick d3 planner with the river sythe before having an actual in depth guide, so i know what stats to look for and which aspect goes where
Been using this over the last week. Got me into T4 at lvl 63, and is a (shadow) blast to play. Something to try: Use Blight instead of tendrils, and use the legendary aspect that makes blight pull in any nearby monsters. Been working very well for me.
@jayyohnk8056 I started using the standard corpse tendril, but the blight is just so strong. You spam blight to open a few times and it pulls the entire group of enemies to you. A quick reap, then shadow corpse explosion over and over until death. You have shadow bone storm with barrier and shadow blood mist in case anything goes awry.
Loved your style and how you presented the build. You were very frank about the requirements and strengths in a way that felt realistic and honest rather than just hyped. Gg thanks for the content ❤
Currently stacking as much cdr and lucky hit chance as possible. For anyone who is looking to get into this build but is being hindered by lack of necessary aspects and uniques, try the blight/corpse explosion/shadowblight build. It's like infinimist lite, and the two overlap heavily while the blight build allows you to perform very well in nm dungeons as you work your way into infinimist.
Looks great. If I come across black river I might just work towards swapping to this. Think I misread gloves as well, didn't realise it also increased CE damage.
I've been running this build for a while, though I don't play the game professionally so I'm only level 71 and not nearly as optimized gear-wise as you. But a couple things: 1) I found reap to be kind of a waste in this build. I tried to swap it for blight and even golem, but I haven't found something that feels really good. How do you feel about Reap? 2) Do you think the unique gloves are still going to be preferrable to a pair of gloves with the "primary resource gives damage" aspect once it's fixed? This build barely uses essence, so I figure that aspect might be busted on it.
drop reap for bone wall. use a max roll wall makes blight pool aspect. fortify rune on wall. group with tendrils then wall for extra shadow proc physical cc and fortify
I have a theory on why you don't gain Fortify while you're in Blood Mist and pick up a Blood Orb. There's this weird phenomenon I noticed when I started using Blooddrinker, and that was that, every so often, I would gather a Blood Orb and see, "DODGED" pop up. For some reason, it seems like the proc of Blooddrinker is somehow maybe coded as an attack against you? So any time you would be immune to damage or would dodge said damage, you don't actually gain the Fortify from it. I noticed that this same thing would happen after a NM dungeon while standing inside of the big bubble. I'd get text that says, "IMMUNE" while picking up Blood Orbs in the dome. I imagine that this was probably not generating Fortify, though I hadn't realized or thought to check this until seeing your video explaining that you can't seem to generate Fortify while Immune inside of Blood Mist with the Blooddrinker glyph.
Just rolled to the same build today. It's quite a powerful one. Some fights might be challenging when you run out of corpses.. need to build up lucky hit chance. Good explanation btw
Ow, its the build naecabon created and used to get the first tier 100 necro dg. Yeah, its pretty cool indeed, good job bringing it to more people. You can also get lucky hit when barrier on helm and focus using a sorc to reroll.
I have a pretty similar build ive been using. Less cohesive for sure, and ive gone through several iterations, but I find that simply getting infinite mist is pretty easy until you get to a boss. High health elites and bosses are painfully slow for me. But I'll take some of these notes and see about improving it, thanks.
I pivoted into this from the Sever build you posted on Maxroll. As you mention on your Maxroll post, having a good wand is much better than using Black River. I wish I could drop the radius increment property from my Black River! Wasting many corpses significantly weakens the build.
Man. I didn’t realize just how lucky I got with Black River. My buddies were lvl 80 and power leveled my second character which was a necro in a T4 dungeon. Butcher came along and died and dropped a unique. We thought it was just the cleaver. Turns out it was Black River. So little ol lvl 38 necro me got Black River by the luckiest random event in a T4 dungeon I had no business being in.
I am prettymuch running this same build right now at lvl 79. Currently handling ~tier 50 dungeons and it's working great. I recently found black river and honestly I think it is worse than just using a normal weapon. For me when using black river it consumes too many corpses and I have trouble reducing my cooldowns. I honestly don't even notice bigger damage when using it.
fyi doesn't shadow damage and shadow damage over time currently not scale with blighted CE? pretty sure it doesn't- scales with physical. when i equip/unequip phys damage I see it change and nothing with shadow or shadow DOT
I’ve just tied this as lvl 70. Don’t have black river, have the gloves. By far not optimised gear but have all the affixes and some cooldown reduction/lucky hit eq. Finished lvl 37 nightmare ding without dying. In lvl 39 I had no issue with surviving but my damage was a bit low.
Hi Macro, I know you´ve tested the lucky hit procs with the barber, but it doesn´t seem to be working for me. On damage output the barber outscales any other heart, but you don´t reset the cooldowns while "storing" damage, and also I noticed less corpses being generated so it might be a bit buggy with everything related to lucky hit procs. However on damage output is insane, compared to every other setup I tested for this build.
I've been running this build now for a few days and it's absolutely amazing! Level 94 doing nm's at t60+ pretty easily. Thank you so much for this and especially the written guild
I really love this build. I’m currently 84. I started as a minion build, but struggled because of no ring of mend, switched to the standard shadow/bone storm build. That got me to roughly nightmare 30. But it gets outshined, take too long killing bosses. Stop dont have the unique helm needed for a strong bone spear build, so I was just floundering. I found this video and luckily, I have a powerful black River and everything else you mentioned so I built this. Life hasn’t been this easy! Everything melts,, and with the survivality that both Bone storm and blood mist offer, I feel invisible. As you mentioned, I dropped the vines aspect and honestly, I don’t feel the loss at all. I have a nice 25% lucky hit, so I’m cruising through the game now. If the helm drops I’ll try a bone spear build, if the ring of mend drops I’ll probably go back to minions, but for now, this rocks.
idk why people keep spreading this propaganda. the bone spear unique helmet is not needed, and is not even bis. thing is mediocre as fuck. only good thing about the helmet is its stats.
I found black river yesterday- don't notice anything different about it. Search results are saying it doesn't work with blighted corpse explosion- as in no damage improvement or radius change
Hey Mac, thanks for the build! I'm gonna try it out! But I do have a hard time giving up the penitent greaves (and its amazing movement speed), are the boots viable in this build or are the +ranks to tendrils paramount to it?
On my Bone spirit build I tried rolling Corpse tendril ranks on my shoes. I tried it out with some ranks on items and putting max points in and IMO its good, but not worth it. Putting in 4 more points reduced my CD from 8.5sec to 7.5 (listing from tooltip/ not sure how CDR applies). You really shouldnt give up the Greaves for it
Would it change a lot, if Reap is changed to Blight? To start a fight with Bloodmist for starter bodies, launch Tendrills, add Decrepify and Blight on enemy and start shooting Explotions... It would mean 2 lost points in Basics and the points needed to use Blight - From somewhere else.
My aversion to meta builds and love of corpse explode made this my favorite build for the launch, thanks for sharing the vid! Question: Has anyone done testing on which blight aspect is better to put on amulet? I think everyone agrees that blighted is better, but I have no way to tell how much shadowblight actually hits for.
I've not done any testing, but my impression is a lot of the damage is from the corpse explosion dot itself, which blighted impacts so is maybe probably better for that reason. Also it looks like crit isn't a priority (or at least as much of one) due to needing lucky hit chance on gear, etc. So less value from shadowblight critting. Hell, in the ideal build according to video you won't be slotting corpse tendril crit aspect further hindering shadowblight's damage potential.
black river does not work with blight corpse explosion right now and since it consumes multiple bodys to create one bigger pool means there are less ticks to proc lucky hits etc.
okay, so i went necro before i realized they nerfed exploding mist form beta, iw as sad, went bone spear up until level 87, i saw this and was sold. i actually ahd everything needed for the build and after spending near 45million respeccing and adjusting armor. i havent looked back, took a tad bit of learning the new style but im loving it. the damage on bosses is a bit slow, but its consistent. thank you for this video as it finally made me stop regretting rolling necro since launch. im having a blast and its alot of fun watching my cool downs just chunk away and get ready for another boom of fun.
I was thinking the same thing. Although I'm wondering what I could change out. Probably the ring that has bloodmist leave shadow on the ground. I don't think that aspect is necessary. Considering we are always at full Essence, the aspect you suggested seems better overall.
Crazy I was just thinking the other day if I could make a build like this using mist to instantly cast corps explosion on all the corpse. I like this. Will try and make a hybrid build of this using minions that make more corpse. Just love minions touch to not use
So what is the main source of damage? Is it the dots? If it is, i am not sure why you use the corpse tendrils aspect, DoTs cant crit, and the bloodmist doesnt seem to be doing the main amount of damage. It could be useful for bonestorm. Just seems like its not really needed with this build. From the looks its the dot damage from corpse explosion doing the work.
the crit damage procs on shadow blight key passive so it does something but like what he said in the video he is going to have to change it out later when he has black river
Compared to what other classes are capable of I don’t think this will be remotely on their radar. Will be trying this out asap. Have the black river collecting dust in the stash! Cheers thanks for the build idea 🙏
Got Black River. Both a Legendary Wand and a regular Legendary scythe work better, since 4 corpses stacked on an enemy is 400% damage, while black river eating 4 corpses is 130% damage. i prefer the 1h scythe over the wand since the life on kill makes you way more tanky than the wand. any chance for Crowd Control is golden here, bosses instamelt if you stack those.
Hey Macro, do you think Infinimist build could work with Bone Spear stats? Like preference for CC, Lucky Hit, CHD, etc? In other words, how much Shadow DMG do we really need?
This vis helped me tweak my current build a lot ! However , I have a question: I'm using Black River, and therefore, I'm losing 1 slot for socketing another aspect. What aspect is least important out of all the aspects imprinted on the gear of this build, and therefore, could be dropped? P.s. I'm lacking the aspect that converts blood mist into darkness
Hey bud, i love this build, just an FYI, I think the guide you wrote has an error, The off hand aspect cant go on that type of item, only on a shield. I hope I'm wrong because your version is better than what I am running but I cant seem to get all the aspects on at once. Maybe there is a combination I don't see that works but as it is currently its not working and I'll have to drop something to work it out.
did you try this builld on final boss? Echo of Lilith? I wonder how does it perform since there is lack of mobs you can quickly generate corpses from as well as you dont have the burst dmg to kill the blobs she spawns
Do you know how much is the internal cooldown for bloodmist poping corpses? Also if you put your points normally in corpse explosion , but you dont put it on your hotkey bar, will the bloodmist poping corpses work the same, or anything weird is going on if you do that ?
Amazing content and explanation.....I also saw you live trying to drop the Black River..... I will try for sure this build you did, waiting to check the full spec on maxroll!
I was about to give up my necro (level 80)... I didn't enjoy any builds and I felt like reskilling 3 times a day. your build is a game changer and so enjoyable to play... tanky af and dmg holy shit. can now rush dungeon after dungeon and it's so much fun. thx so much
Hey man, once again, great stuff, love it. I've been trying this build and other builds with Black River. I swapped over from a 2hbuild and felt a big drop in damage. I thought it was just because it's a 2h>1h, then I realized that Black River is probably the worst weapon for shadow builds....... it is completely counterintuitive to shadow builds. I originally understood it to be popping up to 4 additional corpses at a time, but it actually combines it into 1 (the spirit charging out actually becomes bigger), so less ticks, less luck hit procs, and less shadowblight stacking. I'm not sure if I'm understanding it wrong, but Black River has been a terrible experience.
But with soo much Lucky Hit stacked on items you are not going to be able to pop all corpses that are generated with Hewed Flesh passive from skill tree. Black River helps out with that while buffing damage of CE. The downside is only on bosses or single elite fights vs using a wand and off hand for example.
Black River is awful until you have almost max Lucky Hit and Cooldown reduction on everything (and + Blood Mist Ranks), then it sort of works - although even then a Wand with something like Edgemaster will still situationally be better, and it's a generally smoother gameplay experience than BR. Imo they should remove the +Damage against Healthy and +Damage against Distant from Black River, buff the pitiful +1 to Fueled by Death and give it +Hewed Flesh and Corpse Explosion Ranks (or +Lucky Hit Chance) - then this thing would be a beast. Rn I agree, it's pretty counterintuitive that it makes the build it feels designed for feel and play much worse, until some very specific and super minmaxxed gearing - and even then it's somewhat questionable still.
@@tobiasbalinski3153 for the damage on the CE, you're sacrificing the damage on your Shadowblight and your aspects, as their condition is for times damaged and not total damage dealt. I'm just not understanding the point of doing more damage with corpse explosion when a large amount of damage comes from elsewhere. The only part I get is that you spend less time in animation trying to detonate the corpses. Even with high Lucky Hit, why not have 4 blighted fields proccing instead of 1 that's doing more damage? It just doesn't make any sense to me
@@asum7786 I'm still confused at the purpose of the weapon even when the stats are there. With high Lucky Hit and Cooldown reduction, 1 CE vs 4 CE in terms of times damaged, is still working against the aspects and Shadowblight. I didn't do the math, but the increased corpse explosion damage on Black River has to outpace everything else offered by Shadowblight and its aspects. Unless, those aspects are replaced with other utility or survival, and all damage is now dumped on CE. That would probably be the only purpose of sacrificing so many blighted fields imo. But yea I totally agree, it makes the build feel very clunky as you run out of corpses and then Shadowblight isn't getting as many procs, and suddenly your damage just stops.
@@solari910 It's at the point where you are in Blood Mist most of the time through enough CDR and Lucky Hit Decrepify CDR procs that it may become worthwhile in high NM dungeon pushing - when you are barely casting any CE yourself, but rather through Explosive Mist, and have an excessive amount of Corpses (which if stuff like +Hewed Flesh, +Lucky Hit, etc. was on Black River would really help). If you are ever stalling, running out of Corpses and can't reset Blood Mist fast enough, it's time to drop Black River.
Just wanted to flag that Decrepify-reliant builds need *some* Thorns (could be as low as 25 from Minor Iron Barb Elixir) to really get that uptime on Blood Mist and cooldown reduction. Not sure if this is intended or not, but the reason why folks are getting success with it is the Thorns on their shields. If you’re running Focus and 0 thorns you will IMMEDIATELY notice the difference.
One question, I maybee havent tought this throu but.... Why Crit-chanse/crit DMG as stat priorities? (from the maxroll guide) isnt almost all dmg from this build dmg over time? and not affected by crit?
You mention using Wither for damage over time effects, but what DoT effects are actually in use? IIUC you can identify DoT effects because they will darken part of the enemy health bar. In particular it seems like any ground effect dealing damage over time, i.e. Blighted Corpse Explosion, does not qualify. Based on my own playing of this build, it seems like there are almost no DoT effects in use.
I have similar build, sever, dark corpse explosion, bone golem, bone storm, decrepify, blood myst. Gear unique: black river, blood artisan, greaves of the empty tomb, howl from below. Other aspect: helmet bone storm barrier, legs corpse explosion chance to spawn blood orbs, amulet blood myst corpse explosion cool down red 0.8, rings blood storm consume up to 8 corpses / blood mist leaves a shadow trail and for weapons the black river + a fucus with 2 stats cool down red aspect bone storm is darkness spell. Most of the gear is focused in movement speed and cool down red, I literally clear dungeons with no effort and fast. (with black river i don't need any stats in more essence I'm fine with 100 base stat +the bone spirit from blood artisan I unlocked the skill '' dreadfull bone spirit" took me a bit to get this full build done, and I'm loving it
Oooh this build makes me feel like a villain. Been using pretty much the same build. But been experimenting with different things. awesome to actually see someone running the necromancer across the map like a slab of ctrl alt delete butter sizzling in a hot pan....... On top of flapjacks or sprinkle some minions if thats what you fancy. All you necromancers are my hero and the real MVPs. All the necromancer jedis coming together in the comment section. I have found my home
you can use the blighted aspect rather than decay. decay only ups damage over time which also takes time to stack but the blighted aspect give you up to 240% damage increase when put on to a two handed weapon
Nice build thank you :) Can you create a decrepify + army of the dead build maybe? I was playing with it, but couldn’t create a decent build around it :/
Minions also proc the reduction on the curse. Have been doing similar but with overpower blood surge and using rathmas vigor on the blood myst.. it's bonkers to be invulnerable and melt things constantly
What's the best way of getting that shadow passive on ur focus? I've been farming obels for days now to gamble with. I'm either super unlucky or possibly gambling the wrong item. Since it's an offensive aspect I assumed its highest chance would be from weapon gambling.
As a mostly solo player I have been trying to create this for ages so thanks for the video. I realised my paragons and a few aspects need tweaking. Now though, I can survive pretty much anything, it feels like I'm not squishy anymore and when bone storms up the DPS is great, I melt through most things in seconds. I just need Black River so bad but keep getting the same uniques 😅
Curious how you'd move your aspects around with Black River. Just got a 780 very well rolled version, trying to do the tetris with my current setup which is a bit deviated from yours and I think I have to lose one of the jewelry or offhand aspects
Basically corpse tendrils on the weapon so you can put on black river then swap to wand or a big two hander for bigger crits and crit chance against the single target.
@@MacroBioBoi Ah, I see what you mean. I think you talk about this in the gear portion, Corpse Tendrils aspect on your 1h and 2h for single target but you just lose that aspect when you're running Black River for aoe in general. That's actually an easy swap since I have corpse tendrils on my wand right now, I'll play around with it!
Meh, actually feels weaker given the corpse attack speed increase I have with my gear, if one of these skeletons runs into a shitty target I'm down 4 corpses for nothing, prefer the spam of single corpses vs the pray for one massive CE. and losing the Corpse Tendrils aspect is very noticeable
I've been running this build since day 1 and I really enjoy it. Black River makes it less spammy and more potent. I use Blight with the legendary power to pull mobs (for CC and cluster) for party play so I don't really use bonestorm. But the cooldowns come back really nicely.
@@MacroBioBoi Build is fun. Need to play it a bit more to get the rotation under my skin but its a nice change after 75 lvls of Bone spear :D Thank you
Hey @MacroBioBoi I really like the build but i have huge probles with killing the single elites, bosses. It's a pain. Seems like there is not enough corpse generation in that scenario. Anything that I'm doing wrong?
Have you considered building it around Rathma's vigor? The Overpower procs like 10 times on blood mist and would further reduce the cooldown. I'm waiting to get an explosive mist drop on my softcore to test this but ran the overpower version on hardcore up through lvl 60 and everything melted... idk which is stronger without the gear side by side to test
Does the corpse tendrils aspect work well with this build? Since Dots can't crit what damage in the build other than reap is not dot? I'm running a similar build and I've been torn on that aspect. Love your content thanks!
Hey! Thanks for your great work! I tried your bone spirit build since level 60 cause my corpse/minion-build didn't doing well at this point. I wish i could drop my Blackriver. I'm really interested in the future of your build. It seems really fine! But until then i will play your bone spirit build. I just subscribed your RUclips Channel. Great work and thank you a lot! Cya next time! Greetings from Vienna :-)
@@MacroBioBoi thanks. sry can i ask another question, would penitent greaves be a good fit, what are your thoughts? also theres another unique boots "Greaves of the empty tomb" drops a desecrated ground for more shadow dot. have you tested this boots?
Hi I'm new to Necro in Season 1 and want to try this build. My main question is why would this build need crit chance and crit damage? Seems that the majority of the build is dot damage and dot cannot crit, right? Maybe for the Barber seasonal gem? But this guide was created before Season 1. Also even if Barber is the reason, then wouldn't we only need crit chance then?
Can I request a test, something I don't know how to do? Check how Lucky Hit works with our summons, the skeleton warriors, mages and the golem. I have in mind a summoner build using Army of the Dead, with that aspect on an amulet or weapon, it is insanely strong with the attack speed steroid on them, there's the unique ring to make them hit really hard when it procs and there's the cd reduction on Decrepify. But for the build to work we should need to reduce the cooldown on Army of the Dead substantially. So that's the puzzle I'm trying to solve, but I really don't know how to to about it testing those things: how the lucky hit works with summons, both for the ring and the decrepify, and how does the damage on the ring scale, to try and see how to scale that. Also, since the unique gives a lot of thorns, this brings me back to D2's summoner necro with which the Thorns aura was really strong for your summons, specially on bosses. I would very much appreciate if you could put these tests on the pipeline, and I am sure a lot of the necromancer community are wondering these things as well since the summoner build right now hasn't been solved in a satisfactory way despite being the build most necro players would like to be able to use without being completely harmed in efficiency and endgame capabilities. Thanks a lot for the content once again!
People somehow missed my multiple disclaimers that I do not claim to have invented this version of the build. This is Naecoban's video from earlier last week: ruclips.net/video/fajN5ZcumYo/видео.html&feature=share8
Now that being said, I theory-crafted this video months ago, but I didn't think of Decrepify being strong enough. No malicious stealing here, oddly enough multiple people are all playing similar builds at the same time. The game just released.
During recording there were small amounts of lag on the video portion. Sorry if that's jarring, it's very noticeable during the Paragon section. Again, sorry.
Maxroll Guide will follow in the next few days with optimized Paragon and gear options. Enjoy!
dang i cant wait i hit 100 today i wana blast so hard
Would an infinimist build work with rathma's vigor, where you get the guaranteed overpower?
cant use black river FYI. When you combine black river and howl from below it breaks black river currently and it wont proc eating extra corpses. I had same thoughts a while back with that and its one or other, as currently sits they dont play with each other. Sadly dont think many have noticed this either as my forum posts go ignored. Also the AOE for corpse explode with black river on the mist is currently not enlarging as it should but you do get the dmg increase(this is without howl from below)
DoT skills cant overpower
@MacroBioBoi Well, I don't know if it's a bug, but it definitely overpowers for the full duration when you have your guaranteed proc from rathma's vigor. I've been using it in my build, and it absolutely shreds anything
Those of us that play Necro appreciate every effort you put into this community! Keep it going buddy!
I just got my first Black River in a nightmare dungeon tier 50 and then 2 hours later I got a second one from doing the Helltides. This build rocks!
For anyone that saw this thinking they need black river, you don't. In fact black river makes this worse the fewer enemies there are because it sabotages your number of lucky hits as it combines up to 5 corpses for only a single CE cloud rather than individual clouds. Plus it only buffs the damage over time when most of our damage comes from the shadow blight keystone passive. Better off gearing full crit and vuln to proc shadowblight and get bigger crits. High lucky hit chance is still the way to go though.
This is accurate. Black River has a use in speed farming but not in most other content. Not only because of this, but its radius is bugged and does not increase when it should.
i hope a solid guide comes for this soon, really struggling to find a good build atm. Either hit like a truck but die fast or sustain and do nothing. Necro needs some dev love for more viable options
Agree. Much more love needed
I would love to see a quick d3 planner with the river sythe before having an actual in depth guide, so i know what stats to look for and which aspect goes where
Been using this over the last week. Got me into T4 at lvl 63, and is a (shadow) blast to play. Something to try: Use Blight instead of tendrils, and use the legendary aspect that makes blight pull in any nearby monsters. Been working very well for me.
this acutally seems really nice...no cooldown as long as you have energy
@jayyohnk8056 I started using the standard corpse tendril, but the blight is just so strong. You spam blight to open a few times and it pulls the entire group of enemies to you. A quick reap, then shadow corpse explosion over and over until death. You have shadow bone storm with barrier and shadow blood mist in case anything goes awry.
I've been playing this build since day 1 because I wanted a build where I don't have to worry about essence.
where can i find a guide on it?
Yeah did this build right after I got Howl gloves. Found strange that not seen it on YT, but it's OK now.
Same, essence on nec is so annoyingly bad
Loved your style and how you presented the build. You were very frank about the requirements and strengths in a way that felt realistic and honest rather than just hyped. Gg thanks for the content ❤
Currently stacking as much cdr and lucky hit chance as possible. For anyone who is looking to get into this build but is being hindered by lack of necessary aspects and uniques, try the blight/corpse explosion/shadowblight build. It's like infinimist lite, and the two overlap heavily while the blight build allows you to perform very well in nm dungeons as you work your way into infinimist.
Looks great. If I come across black river I might just work towards swapping to this. Think I misread gloves as well, didn't realise it also increased CE damage.
I've been running this build for a while, though I don't play the game professionally so I'm only level 71 and not nearly as optimized gear-wise as you. But a couple things:
1) I found reap to be kind of a waste in this build. I tried to swap it for blight and even golem, but I haven't found something that feels really good. How do you feel about Reap?
2) Do you think the unique gloves are still going to be preferrable to a pair of gloves with the "primary resource gives damage" aspect once it's fixed? This build barely uses essence, so I figure that aspect might be busted on it.
drop reap for bone wall. use a max roll wall makes blight pool aspect. fortify rune on wall. group with tendrils then wall for extra shadow proc physical cc and fortify
I have a theory on why you don't gain Fortify while you're in Blood Mist and pick up a Blood Orb.
There's this weird phenomenon I noticed when I started using Blooddrinker, and that was that, every so often, I would gather a Blood Orb and see, "DODGED" pop up.
For some reason, it seems like the proc of Blooddrinker is somehow maybe coded as an attack against you? So any time you would be immune to damage or would dodge said damage, you don't actually gain the Fortify from it.
I noticed that this same thing would happen after a NM dungeon while standing inside of the big bubble. I'd get text that says, "IMMUNE" while picking up Blood Orbs in the dome. I imagine that this was probably not generating Fortify, though I hadn't realized or thought to check this until seeing your video explaining that you can't seem to generate Fortify while Immune inside of Blood Mist with the Blooddrinker glyph.
Just rolled to the same build today. It's quite a powerful one. Some fights might be challenging when you run out of corpses.. need to build up lucky hit chance. Good explanation btw
Ow, its the build naecabon created and used to get the first tier 100 necro dg. Yeah, its pretty cool indeed, good job bringing it to more people. You can also get lucky hit when barrier on helm and focus using a sorc to reroll.
What should my off-hand aspect be once I get Black River?
I have a pretty similar build ive been using. Less cohesive for sure, and ive gone through several iterations, but I find that simply getting infinite mist is pretty easy until you get to a boss. High health elites and bosses are painfully slow for me. But I'll take some of these notes and see about improving it, thanks.
I pivoted into this from the Sever build you posted on Maxroll. As you mention on your Maxroll post, having a good wand is much better than using Black River. I wish I could drop the radius increment property from my Black River! Wasting many corpses significantly weakens the build.
Rathma: "There can be only one."
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When are we getting a bone spear endgame build?
Man. I didn’t realize just how lucky I got with Black River. My buddies were lvl 80 and power leveled my second character which was a necro in a T4 dungeon. Butcher came along and died and dropped a unique. We thought it was just the cleaver. Turns out it was Black River. So little ol lvl 38 necro me got Black River by the luckiest random event in a T4 dungeon I had no business being in.
I am prettymuch running this same build right now at lvl 79. Currently handling ~tier 50 dungeons and it's working great. I recently found black river and honestly I think it is worse than just using a normal weapon. For me when using black river it consumes too many corpses and I have trouble reducing my cooldowns. I honestly don't even notice bigger damage when using it.
fyi doesn't shadow damage and shadow damage over time currently not scale with blighted CE? pretty sure it doesn't- scales with physical. when i equip/unequip phys damage I see it change and nothing with shadow or shadow DOT
Proved that was just tooltip mishaps. I have a video on it.
@@MacroBioBoi sweet- thanks
I’ve just tied this as lvl 70. Don’t have black river, have the gloves. By far not optimised gear but have all the affixes and some cooldown reduction/lucky hit eq. Finished lvl 37 nightmare ding without dying. In lvl 39 I had no issue with surviving but my damage was a bit low.
Hi Macro, I know you´ve tested the lucky hit procs with the barber, but it doesn´t seem to be working for me. On damage output the barber outscales any other heart, but you don´t reset the cooldowns while "storing" damage, and also I noticed less corpses being generated so it might be a bit buggy with everything related to lucky hit procs.
However on damage output is insane, compared to every other setup I tested for this build.
I've been running this build now for a few days and it's absolutely amazing! Level 94 doing nm's at t60+ pretty easily. Thank you so much for this and especially the written guild
I really love this build. I’m currently 84. I started as a minion build, but struggled because of no ring of mend, switched to the standard shadow/bone storm build. That got me to roughly nightmare 30. But it gets outshined, take too long killing bosses. Stop dont have the unique helm needed for a strong bone spear build, so I was just floundering. I found this video and luckily, I have a powerful black River and everything else you mentioned so I built this. Life hasn’t been this easy! Everything melts,, and with the survivality that both Bone storm and blood mist offer, I feel invisible. As you mentioned, I dropped the vines aspect and honestly, I don’t feel the loss at all. I have a nice 25% lucky hit, so I’m cruising through the game now. If the helm drops I’ll try a bone spear build, if the ring of mend drops I’ll probably go back to minions, but for now, this rocks.
You dont need that helmet at all for a strong bone spear build. It's an ok helmet.
idk why people keep spreading this propaganda. the bone spear unique helmet is not needed, and is not even bis. thing is mediocre as fuck. only good thing about the helmet is its stats.
Wow Mac, that sure is a necro.
Noob question: how does this build benefit from crit chance and damage if shadow dots don't crit?
ShadowBlight can crit
Yayyyyy!!! Finally the weird esoteric build !!!! Was waiting for you to pop this my dude 😎
I typically do not like build guides, your delivery and explanation is good and not terribly drawn out.
I found black river yesterday- don't notice anything different about it. Search results are saying it doesn't work with blighted corpse explosion- as in no damage improvement or radius change
honestly I was waiting for a build like this! good video man!
Hey Mac, thanks for the build! I'm gonna try it out!
But I do have a hard time giving up the penitent greaves (and its amazing movement speed), are the boots viable in this build or are the +ranks to tendrils paramount to it?
On my Bone spirit build I tried rolling Corpse tendril ranks on my shoes. I tried it out with some ranks on items and putting max points in and IMO its good, but not worth it. Putting in 4 more points reduced my CD from 8.5sec to 7.5 (listing from tooltip/ not sure how CDR applies).
You really shouldnt give up the Greaves for it
oh my! thanks so much for letting me know! one second is a tough one indeed to give up for the fun slow effects!
Would it change a lot, if Reap is changed to Blight?
To start a fight with Bloodmist for starter bodies, launch Tendrills, add Decrepify and Blight on enemy and start shooting Explotions...
It would mean 2 lost points in Basics and the points needed to use Blight - From somewhere else.
My aversion to meta builds and love of corpse explode made this my favorite build for the launch, thanks for sharing the vid!
Question: Has anyone done testing on which blight aspect is better to put on amulet? I think everyone agrees that blighted is better, but I have no way to tell how much shadowblight actually hits for.
I've not done any testing, but my impression is a lot of the damage is from the corpse explosion dot itself, which blighted impacts so is maybe probably better for that reason.
Also it looks like crit isn't a priority (or at least as much of one) due to needing lucky hit chance on gear, etc. So less value from shadowblight critting. Hell, in the ideal build according to video you won't be slotting corpse tendril crit aspect further hindering shadowblight's damage potential.
black river does not work with blight corpse explosion right now and since it consumes multiple bodys to create one bigger pool means there are less ticks to proc lucky hits etc.
okay, so i went necro before i realized they nerfed exploding mist form beta, iw as sad, went bone spear up until level 87, i saw this and was sold. i actually ahd everything needed for the build and after spending near 45million respeccing and adjusting armor. i havent looked back, took a tad bit of learning the new style but im loving it. the damage on bosses is a bit slow, but its consistent. thank you for this video as it finally made me stop regretting rolling necro since launch. im having a blast and its alot of fun watching my cool downs just chunk away and get ready for another boom of fun.
Do you think one of the aspects can be replaced with edge masters given we're always at 100% resource?
I was thinking the same thing. Although I'm wondering what I could change out. Probably the ring that has bloodmist leave shadow on the ground. I don't think that aspect is necessary. Considering we are always at full Essence, the aspect you suggested seems better overall.
Edgemaster's only works for skills that spend Essence.
i was looking for a black river build. thank you for this!
Np fam
Crazy I was just thinking the other day if I could make a build like this using mist to instantly cast corps explosion on all the corpse. I like this. Will try and make a hybrid build of this using minions that make more corpse. Just love minions touch to not use
So what is the main source of damage? Is it the dots? If it is, i am not sure why you use the corpse tendrils aspect, DoTs cant crit, and the bloodmist doesnt seem to be doing the main amount of damage. It could be useful for bonestorm. Just seems like its not really needed with this build. From the looks its the dot damage from corpse explosion doing the work.
the crit damage procs on shadow blight key passive so it does something but like what he said in the video he is going to have to change it out later when he has black river
Thanks for the info on the build I power lvled my necro and got lucky with gear drops and am beating the heck out of t4 at lvl 60 lol!
let's hope Blizzard doesn't see this
Corpse explode a few times so they can't
@@TorpinDorpilthis is probably one of the funniest things I’ve read on the internet In at least a few months
Compared to what other classes are capable of I don’t think this will be remotely on their radar. Will be trying this out asap. Have the black river collecting dust in the stash! Cheers thanks for the build idea 🙏
@torpindorpil3916 you sir or madam are the funniest person in all of sanctuary
Won't matter. As cool as it is, it can't touch bone spear for PvM or PvP. This build doesn't really seem to have an optimal use case
Are you going to post this build on Maxroll at all?
Yes.
Got Black River. Both a Legendary Wand and a regular Legendary scythe work better, since 4 corpses stacked on an enemy is 400% damage, while black river eating 4 corpses is 130% damage. i prefer the 1h scythe over the wand since the life on kill makes you way more tanky than the wand. any chance for Crowd Control is golden here, bosses instamelt if you stack those.
Hey Macro, do you think Infinimist build could work with Bone Spear stats? Like preference for CC, Lucky Hit, CHD, etc? In other words, how much Shadow DMG do we really need?
This vis helped me tweak my current build a lot ! However , I have a question: I'm using Black River, and therefore, I'm losing 1 slot for socketing another aspect. What aspect is least important out of all the aspects imprinted on the gear of this build, and therefore, could be dropped?
P.s. I'm lacking the aspect that converts blood mist into darkness
Hey bud, i love this build, just an FYI, I think the guide you wrote has an error, The off hand aspect cant go on that type of item, only on a shield. I hope I'm wrong because your version is better than what I am running but I cant seem to get all the aspects on at once. Maybe there is a combination I don't see that works but as it is currently its not working and I'll have to drop something to work it out.
did you try this builld on final boss? Echo of Lilith?
I wonder how does it perform since there is lack of mobs you can quickly generate corpses from as well as you dont have the burst dmg to kill the blobs she spawns
Do you know how much is the internal cooldown for bloodmist poping corpses? Also if you put your points normally in corpse explosion , but you dont put it on your hotkey bar, will the bloodmist poping corpses work the same, or anything weird is going on if you do that ?
Amazing content and explanation.....I also saw you live trying to drop the Black River..... I will try for sure this build you did, waiting to check the full spec on maxroll!
So if we get the Black River, which aspect should we drop then?
I was about to give up my necro (level 80)... I didn't enjoy any builds and I felt like reskilling 3 times a day. your build is a game changer and so enjoyable to play... tanky af and dmg holy shit. can now rush dungeon after dungeon and it's so much fun. thx so much
Hey man, once again, great stuff, love it. I've been trying this build and other builds with Black River. I swapped over from a 2hbuild and felt a big drop in damage. I thought it was just because it's a 2h>1h, then I realized that Black River is probably the worst weapon for shadow builds....... it is completely counterintuitive to shadow builds. I originally understood it to be popping up to 4 additional corpses at a time, but it actually combines it into 1 (the spirit charging out actually becomes bigger), so less ticks, less luck hit procs, and less shadowblight stacking. I'm not sure if I'm understanding it wrong, but Black River has been a terrible experience.
But with soo much Lucky Hit stacked on items you are not going to be able to pop all corpses that are generated with Hewed Flesh passive from skill tree. Black River helps out with that while buffing damage of CE. The downside is only on bosses or single elite fights vs using a wand and off hand for example.
Black River is awful until you have almost max Lucky Hit and Cooldown reduction on everything (and + Blood Mist Ranks), then it sort of works - although even then a Wand with something like Edgemaster will still situationally be better, and it's a generally smoother gameplay experience than BR.
Imo they should remove the +Damage against Healthy and +Damage against Distant from Black River, buff the pitiful +1 to Fueled by Death and give it +Hewed Flesh and Corpse Explosion Ranks (or +Lucky Hit Chance) - then this thing would be a beast.
Rn I agree, it's pretty counterintuitive that it makes the build it feels designed for feel and play much worse, until some very specific and super minmaxxed gearing - and even then it's somewhat questionable still.
@@tobiasbalinski3153 for the damage on the CE, you're sacrificing the damage on your Shadowblight and your aspects, as their condition is for times damaged and not total damage dealt. I'm just not understanding the point of doing more damage with corpse explosion when a large amount of damage comes from elsewhere. The only part I get is that you spend less time in animation trying to detonate the corpses. Even with high Lucky Hit, why not have 4 blighted fields proccing instead of 1 that's doing more damage? It just doesn't make any sense to me
@@asum7786 I'm still confused at the purpose of the weapon even when the stats are there. With high Lucky Hit and Cooldown reduction, 1 CE vs 4 CE in terms of times damaged, is still working against the aspects and Shadowblight. I didn't do the math, but the increased corpse explosion damage on Black River has to outpace everything else offered by Shadowblight and its aspects. Unless, those aspects are replaced with other utility or survival, and all damage is now dumped on CE. That would probably be the only purpose of sacrificing so many blighted fields imo. But yea I totally agree, it makes the build feel very clunky as you run out of corpses and then Shadowblight isn't getting as many procs, and suddenly your damage just stops.
@@solari910 It's at the point where you are in Blood Mist most of the time through enough CDR and Lucky Hit Decrepify CDR procs that it may become worthwhile in high NM dungeon pushing - when you are barely casting any CE yourself, but rather through Explosive Mist, and have an excessive amount of Corpses (which if stuff like +Hewed Flesh, +Lucky Hit, etc. was on Black River would really help).
If you are ever stalling, running out of Corpses and can't reset Blood Mist fast enough, it's time to drop Black River.
@macrobioboi should i play black river if i have it? and if so, what perk to use on shield?
Just wanted to flag that Decrepify-reliant builds need *some* Thorns (could be as low as 25 from Minor Iron Barb Elixir) to really get that uptime on Blood Mist and cooldown reduction. Not sure if this is intended or not, but the reason why folks are getting success with it is the Thorns on their shields. If you’re running Focus and 0 thorns you will IMMEDIATELY notice the difference.
I’ve been using this exact build for a couple weeks. Haven’t found Black River yet though. Glad to see it’s as good as I was hoping.
This fire bro! I’m a sever necro main and this is a nice update for my build. Thank you!
One question, I maybee havent tought this throu but.... Why Crit-chanse/crit DMG as stat priorities? (from the maxroll guide) isnt almost all dmg from this build dmg over time? and not affected by crit?
Thx for shared this build! if i only have black river and bone spirit gears,can i use this build?
You mention using Wither for damage over time effects, but what DoT effects are actually in use? IIUC you can identify DoT effects because they will darken part of the enemy health bar. In particular it seems like any ground effect dealing damage over time, i.e. Blighted Corpse Explosion, does not qualify. Based on my own playing of this build, it seems like there are almost no DoT effects in use.
Corpse Explosion, bone storm. You might be conflating DoT debuffs like bleed and poison with AoE DoT effects.
Used this since you posed this build I cannot even think about another set up! Thanks so much
I have similar build, sever, dark corpse explosion, bone golem, bone storm, decrepify, blood myst. Gear unique: black river, blood artisan, greaves of the empty tomb, howl from below. Other aspect: helmet bone storm barrier, legs corpse explosion chance to spawn blood orbs, amulet blood myst corpse explosion cool down red 0.8, rings blood storm consume up to 8 corpses / blood mist leaves a shadow trail and for weapons the black river + a fucus with 2 stats cool down red aspect bone storm is darkness spell. Most of the gear is focused in movement speed and cool down red, I literally clear dungeons with no effort and fast. (with black river i don't need any stats in more essence I'm fine with 100 base stat +the bone spirit from blood artisan I unlocked the skill '' dreadfull bone spirit" took me a bit to get this full build done, and I'm loving it
Idk why your guys at max roll hard sleep on the heart that cast decrepify. You can have it so it only takes one unit to trigger it’s effect.
Is Bloodless Scream completely unusable in this build? Should I use the cutting skill? Up to cutting unique boots?
Bloodless scream makes essence. We don't spend essence.
@@MacroBioBoi isnt the essence a nice "bonus" only? the main "selling point" is shadow = chill with it i isnt it?
How do you crit with CE ? Dots should not crit or im missing something.
Shadowblight Crits
if you didn't have as many points would you put wither on 2nd or 3rd board over one of the others?
do you think black river is mandatory for this build? I saw that black river isnt working properly for blighted corpse explosion
Oooh this build makes me feel like a villain. Been using pretty much the same build. But been experimenting with different things. awesome to actually see someone running the necromancer across the map like a slab of ctrl alt delete butter sizzling in a hot pan....... On top of flapjacks or sprinkle some minions if thats what you fancy. All you necromancers are my hero and the real MVPs. All the necromancer jedis coming together in the comment section. I have found my home
I can't find that damn decay aspect been trying from 80-92 still haven't seen it
you can use the blighted aspect rather than decay. decay only ups damage over time which also takes time to stack but the blighted aspect give you up to 240% damage increase when put on to a two handed weapon
@@palmtoptiger0627 I think I just needed to bitch lmao, I got one this morning from helltides finally
Nice build thank you :) Can you create a decrepify + army of the dead build maybe? I was playing with it, but couldn’t create a decent build around it :/
Minions also proc the reduction on the curse. Have been doing similar but with overpower blood surge and using rathmas vigor on the blood myst.. it's bonkers to be invulnerable and melt things constantly
Is there a link to go over all this outside of the video? So you can see what points you put into what and with gear.
All of my build guides are on Maxroll.gg
Do you have a final D4 builds for this yet?
What's the best way of getting that shadow passive on ur focus? I've been farming obels for days now to gamble with. I'm either super unlucky or possibly gambling the wrong item. Since it's an offensive aspect I assumed its highest chance would be from weapon gambling.
As a mostly solo player I have been trying to create this for ages so thanks for the video. I realised my paragons and a few aspects need tweaking. Now though, I can survive pretty much anything, it feels like I'm not squishy anymore and when bone storms up the DPS is great, I melt through most things in seconds. I just need Black River so bad but keep getting the same uniques 😅
What should I swap in for blood drinker if the mist + fortify doesnt work?
Curious how you'd move your aspects around with Black River. Just got a 780 very well rolled version, trying to do the tetris with my current setup which is a bit deviated from yours and I think I have to lose one of the jewelry or offhand aspects
Basically corpse tendrils on the weapon so you can put on black river then swap to wand or a big two hander for bigger crits and crit chance against the single target.
@@MacroBioBoi Ah, I see what you mean. I think you talk about this in the gear portion, Corpse Tendrils aspect on your 1h and 2h for single target but you just lose that aspect when you're running Black River for aoe in general. That's actually an easy swap since I have corpse tendrils on my wand right now, I'll play around with it!
Meh, actually feels weaker given the corpse attack speed increase I have with my gear, if one of these skeletons runs into a shitty target I'm down 4 corpses for nothing, prefer the spam of single corpses vs the pray for one massive CE. and losing the Corpse Tendrils aspect is very noticeable
if we have black river would it be advised to use it does tend to eat up corpse rather quickly
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It's only good for speed farming efficiency
I've been running this build since day 1 and I really enjoy it. Black River makes it less spammy and more potent. I use Blight with the legendary power to pull mobs (for CC and cluster) for party play so I don't really use bonestorm. But the cooldowns come back really nicely.
Would edge master work in this build? After is fixed of course? Given that our essence is always tapped off
Edge master only works for skills that spend essence.
@@MacroBioBoi hmm well I guess it could have an effect on bone storm, but not sure if is worth the aspect slot for it. Thanks man
Great Build, love playing a variation of this build, however, would not take Supreme Bone Storm since DoT skills cannot crit
Shadowblight passive and bone storm can crit.
@@MacroBioBoi Wait, so bone storm with your one thing that turns it into a darkness skill that makes it do DoT can crit?
@@marzuttv it ALSO does shadow damage over time. It's base skill damage crits.
What about book of the dead? What do you recommend for this build? Reapers, cold mages and iron golem?
Yep
@@MacroBioBoi Build is fun. Need to play it a bit more to get the rotation under my skin but its a nice change after 75 lvls of Bone spear :D Thank you
Should i take off decrep from my bar and add something else? I have the always up decrep heart
You can, some people like using iron maiden but I don't think you really have points to invest in a whole new skill.
I play that build aswell an i can recommend greaves of the empty tomb for even more lucky hit chance and give up the speed since you dont need it imo
I saw a video with black river and the unique gloves and it doesn't really work with the blighted corpse explosion.
Hey @MacroBioBoi I really like the build but i have huge probles with killing the single elites, bosses. It's a pain. Seems like there is not enough corpse generation in that scenario. Anything that I'm doing wrong?
Need to swap to a big two hander with maxed corpse tendrils aspect on it.
I have black River BTW
@@MacroBioBoi thanks a lot for the reply, qq, switch for boss fights you mean? Or try it as a main weapon?
Awesome setup man ty ty! Really enjoying this plz make a planner.
How vital is ultimate shadow? Is grasping veins aspect better? I have black river
Ultimate shadow is more important but both should be on the build.
Hard to put both on build when using black river
Have you considered building it around Rathma's vigor? The Overpower procs like 10 times on blood mist and would further reduce the cooldown. I'm waiting to get an explosive mist drop on my softcore to test this but ran the overpower version on hardcore up through lvl 60 and everything melted... idk which is stronger without the gear side by side to test
You can't afford to lose Shadowblight for Blood most to output 30k overpower procs once every 15 seconds.
Does the corpse tendrils aspect work well with this build? Since Dots can't crit what damage in the build other than reap is not dot? I'm running a similar build and I've been torn on that aspect.
Love your content thanks!
Shadowblight crits.
Hey! Thanks for your great work! I tried your bone spirit build since level 60 cause my corpse/minion-build didn't doing well at this point. I wish i could drop my Blackriver. I'm really interested in the future of your build. It seems really fine! But until then i will play your bone spirit build. I just subscribed your RUclips Channel. Great work and thank you a lot! Cya next time!
Greetings from Vienna :-)
I also used this configuration and found a new joy of necromancers!
question: The unique, Bloodless Scream, is that any good for this build?
No
@@MacroBioBoi thanks. sry can i ask another question, would penitent greaves be a good fit, what are your thoughts?
also theres another unique boots "Greaves of the empty tomb" drops a desecrated ground for more shadow dot. have you tested this boots?
@@4o0l63 penitent greaves are ok yes.
it would be so very nice to have a link somewhere to follow this a bit as trying to catch and pause the Paragon board specially is almost impossible
It will exist when Im done writing the Maxroll guide
Does anyone know if it would be decent to use the two hand that makes shadow also deal cold damage any good with something like this?
Not really
Hi I'm new to Necro in Season 1 and want to try this build. My main question is why would this build need crit chance and crit damage? Seems that the majority of the build is dot damage and dot cannot crit, right? Maybe for the Barber seasonal gem? But this guide was created before Season 1. Also even if Barber is the reason, then wouldn't we only need crit chance then?
Shadowblight procs can crit and do roughly 1/2 your damage.
When you're ussing blood mist to trigger corpse explotion, ¿What luchky hit chance is working? ¿9% on Blood Mist or 40% on corpse explotion?
Corpse explosion
Can I request a test, something I don't know how to do? Check how Lucky Hit works with our summons, the skeleton warriors, mages and the golem.
I have in mind a summoner build using Army of the Dead, with that aspect on an amulet or weapon, it is insanely strong with the attack speed steroid on them, there's the unique ring to make them hit really hard when it procs and there's the cd reduction on Decrepify. But for the build to work we should need to reduce the cooldown on Army of the Dead substantially. So that's the puzzle I'm trying to solve, but I really don't know how to to about it testing those things: how the lucky hit works with summons, both for the ring and the decrepify, and how does the damage on the ring scale, to try and see how to scale that.
Also, since the unique gives a lot of thorns, this brings me back to D2's summoner necro with which the Thorns aura was really strong for your summons, specially on bosses. I would very much appreciate if you could put these tests on the pipeline, and I am sure a lot of the necromancer community are wondering these things as well since the summoner build right now hasn't been solved in a satisfactory way despite being the build most necro players would like to be able to use without being completely harmed in efficiency and endgame capabilities.
Thanks a lot for the content once again!