This is great advice, the interesting thing about doing this on new material in small chunks like 2 to 8 measures (depending on the difficulty of the music), is that it hardly takes any extra time.
This occurred to me the other day. Then I watched your video last night. Used note naming with all my students today and had excellent results. It’s a keeper! 😁
Again voice hand and ear can coincide with rhythmic counting. But when improvising we can use certain ingrained habits and also find alternative fingerings spontaneously.
Thanks for the advice, Counting is something I use regularly, though mostly to nail tricky passages, naming notes and fingers sounds like a good thing, but what do you do with chords and when you have multiple voices like in a fugue? I guess for naming notes you could name the chord (it might be awkward though.. try saying "f sharp minor 7, second inversion" in tempo! and where do you put suspensions and passing notes and held notes) but the fingers of the chord? I could probably name them for slow practice, but with any kind of speed, it would do my brain in! or maybe I'm overcomplicating it, what do you suggest?
If mainly practice naming notes when you’re doing hands alone practice - or in the case of the fugue it would be especially helpful to do it for each voice individually! To your point - the chords would likely be more complicated than beneficial ✅
I've followed your advice for counting out loud so this is not a foreign concept. I have another suggestion. I'm trying to learn Thoroughbass, or Figured Bass, and try to learn the interval. it helped with Prélude in C by Bach, and I was able to transpose it into G easily. I'm trying to learn the ukulele fretboard and learning the intervals helps a lot. I'll apply your method and see how it goes. BTW your videos are never boring, even though your information has quite a bit of overlap. The overlap is all based on good technique, so it makes you a very good teacher.
Great idea, and thanks! It’s true, there are so many concepts that are so related, and in a video, I can only provide a bite-size piece of it - glad you like them!
What's your opinion going a little bit more abstract and not only saying the name of the notes but also the scale degree relative to the key or maybe even relative to the current chord?
Because this is so complicated, it wouldn’t necessarily help you in a performance sense… But if you want to practice this way, it’s definitely not going to hurt you.
Interesting concept in learning music. The problem is to be able to take the slow tedious recitation of finger numbers, notes and counting and play at a faster tempo. Some players sing the pitches without their names as jazz 😊musicians often do. Using scat singing as it's called and solfege also comes to mind as well.
It isn’t ideal at the beginning because generally if memorizing happens too fast bad habits develop. Also, the brain isn’t great at fully memorizing - so often times with memory happens in the very beginning stages of learning a piece, people end up having a lot of mistakes later. I break down why and some of my other memory videos if you want to check them out!
Yes it's possible with slow practice. In the end though the desired tempo is going to take time. I solfegge the notes hands alone along with good fingering. Try playing phrases with just one finger pecking out the pitches and naming them. Or sight sing the lines there in. Analyze the structure and chord progression. Practice hands alone slowly. Put them together slowly and so on. Take the piece apart in small sections a few bars at a time. Start at the end of a piece and work backwards. ❤😂🎉
@@AshleeYoungMusicStudio I tried this, but honestly, I am not patient enough. I recognize chords as one block and remember inversions as well. For voices l I tried it and agree that memory becomes better speaking out loud in the beginning.
Her advice makes sense bc your brain is technically already “saying” them. Doing it outloud lets you acknowledge and take inventory of every single note and make sure you’re playing it with the correct finger and length of time and helps you to remember it even better.
I’m not 100% sure this is a fair comparison but these days, we all get 6 digit codes to confirm our identity when logging on to say, a bank website. I find I instinctively say the numbers out loud because I know I have a greater chance of retaining them by the time I enter them. I don’t think I’m the only one who does that. So most of us count out loud in our daily lives because we know its value. I know it’s daunting applying that to music practice but maybe thinking about 6 digit codes could make us less resistant… or maybe not.
I absolutely love this comparison and while I talk a lot about speaking out loud with music - I’ve never put this together but it makes 100% sense. Thank you for sharing this and I might just have to use it as an example when I’m teaching on this! :)
I often hum the melody or dominant voice when practicing hands together. I do the beat/tempo in my head without even thinking about it. Notes that I consistently mess up, I will mark on the music and often play the correct note louder while practicing. My fingering has always been terrible and what I got chastised for as a kid all the time. Still my bad habit.🫠
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Thank you very much for the kind words! 💜
This is great advice, the interesting thing about doing this on new material in small chunks like 2 to 8 measures (depending on the difficulty of the music), is that it hardly takes any extra time.
Yes! Exactly! I wish more people understood that. I think people often think that it’s going to take so much longer.
Yes exactly! It sounds like it will take longer - but it doesn’t and in the long run it ends up saving you so much time ✅
This occurred to me the other day. Then I watched your video last night. Used note naming with all my students today and had excellent results. It’s a keeper! 😁
Yayyy! I’m so happy to hear that!
Very interesting ideas - thank you.
You’re very welcome!
Again voice hand and ear can coincide with rhythmic counting. But when improvising we can use certain ingrained habits and also find alternative fingerings spontaneously.
Thanks for the advice, Counting is something I use regularly, though mostly to nail tricky passages, naming notes and fingers sounds like a good thing, but what do you do with chords and when you have multiple voices like in a fugue? I guess for naming notes you could name the chord (it might be awkward though.. try saying "f sharp minor 7, second inversion" in tempo! and where do you put suspensions and passing notes and held notes) but the fingers of the chord? I could probably name them for slow practice, but with any kind of speed, it would do my brain in! or maybe I'm overcomplicating it, what do you suggest?
If mainly practice naming notes when you’re doing hands alone practice - or in the case of the fugue it would be especially helpful to do it for each voice individually! To your point - the chords would likely be more complicated than beneficial ✅
Great lessons, thank you Ashlee
I've followed your advice for counting out loud so this is not a foreign concept. I have another suggestion. I'm trying to learn Thoroughbass, or Figured Bass, and try to learn the interval. it helped with Prélude in C by Bach, and I was able to transpose it into G easily.
I'm trying to learn the ukulele fretboard and learning the intervals helps a lot. I'll apply your method and see how it goes.
BTW your videos are never boring, even though your information has quite a bit of overlap. The overlap is all based on good technique, so it makes you a very good teacher.
Great idea, and thanks! It’s true, there are so many concepts that are so related, and in a video, I can only provide a bite-size piece of it - glad you like them!
Hi Ashley thanks. So should i do all three methods for each piece i'm learning or should i pick one of the methods
Pick one and go from there ✅
What's your opinion going a little bit more abstract and not only saying the name of the notes but also the scale degree relative to the key or maybe even relative to the current chord?
Because this is so complicated, it wouldn’t necessarily help you in a performance sense… But if you want to practice this way, it’s definitely not going to hurt you.
Interesting concept in learning music. The problem is to be able to take the slow tedious recitation of finger numbers, notes and counting and play at a faster tempo. Some players sing the pitches without their names as jazz 😊musicians often do. Using scat singing as it's called and solfege also comes to mind as well.
Is memorizing a bad practice? It took forever to learn a song if ever but seems whole lot faster if i just memorize the music
It isn’t ideal at the beginning because generally if memorizing happens too fast bad habits develop. Also, the brain isn’t great at fully memorizing - so often times with memory happens in the very beginning stages of learning a piece, people end up having a lot of mistakes later. I break down why and some of my other memory videos if you want to check them out!
So, how to say out loud note names in a complex Rachmaninov piece with all 10 fingers engaged?
Yes it's possible with slow practice. In the end though the desired tempo is going to take time. I solfegge the notes hands alone along with good fingering. Try playing phrases with just one finger pecking out the pitches and naming them. Or sight sing the lines there in. Analyze the structure and chord progression. Practice hands alone slowly. Put them together slowly and so on. Take the piece apart in small sections a few bars at a time. Start at the end of a piece and work backwards. ❤😂🎉
One at a time ;) you’ll have to break it down in order to do this but if you’re willing to do it, it WILL help.
@@AshleeYoungMusicStudio I tried this, but honestly, I am not patient enough. I recognize chords as one block and remember inversions as well. For voices l I tried it and agree that memory becomes better speaking out loud in the beginning.
Her advice makes sense bc your brain is technically already “saying” them. Doing it outloud lets you acknowledge and take inventory of every single note and make sure you’re playing it with the correct finger and length of time and helps you to remember it even better.
@@yeahyeah4244 exactly!!!
I'm too old to learn this. Just do the best I can sightreading.
You’re never too old!!
I’m not 100% sure this is a fair comparison but these days, we all get 6 digit codes to confirm our identity when logging on to say, a bank website. I find I instinctively say the numbers out loud because I know I have a greater chance of retaining them by the time I enter them. I don’t think I’m the only one who does that. So most of us count out loud in our daily lives because we know its value.
I know it’s daunting applying that to music practice but maybe thinking about 6 digit codes could make us less resistant… or maybe not.
I absolutely love this comparison and while I talk a lot about speaking out loud with music - I’ve never put this together but it makes 100% sense. Thank you for sharing this and I might just have to use it as an example when I’m teaching on this! :)
I often hum the melody or dominant voice when practicing hands together. I do the beat/tempo in my head without even thinking about it. Notes that I consistently mess up, I will mark on the music and often play the correct note louder while practicing. My fingering has always been terrible and what I got chastised for as a kid all the time. Still my bad habit.🫠