Rob Machado "Moonbeam" Surfboard Review by Noel Salas Ep.65
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In this episode Firewire sends me two stock 5’4” Rob Machado “Moonbeams” in their LFT construction for review. I got one board with FCS II fin plugs and the other board has Futures. Both boards have a five fin options and I enjoyed surfing them both as Quads and Thrusters with medium fins.
The Moonbeam has many different attributes that make it unique in design. The outline has curves in all the right places coupled with its wide point a little back from center making it quick to maneuver top to bottom in small waves. I also enjoyed surfing the Half Moon tail coupled with Rob’s signature “board eat board” bottom design inspired by George Greenough.
After surfing this board for roughly 3 weeks in 1-6’ surf testing multiple fin sizes, and set ups I have come to the conclusion this board is fast, responsive, and very fun. The Moonbeam is user friendly and excels in 1-4’ surf but if you find yourself in waves over head this board offers exceptional speed and hold do to its over all board design. I highly recommend this board for intermediate to advanced+ surfers.
For me to truly enjoy Rob’s “board eat board” design I did a little studying on George Greenough’s “Edge Board” from the late 1960’s. To see photos and learn more click on the link below.
www.liquidsaltmag.com/greenoug...
My height: 5’9”
My weight: 160lbs or 72.57kg 
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Surfing aside, we really need to acknowledge your skills as a presenter and reviewer. Incredible job Noel, thank you.
Ps: looks like the best board you’ve had so far, in the quad set it looks almost like the footage is sped up
Waxfoot Cheers...
flying on this board!
pierre badenhorst ja fok my, hy motor!
This is my first real surfboard in a 6’10”. Great review and I will keep in mind medium fins worked best. Yes the board is super fast. Front side turns love to rail them. I love to catch the wave late and zoom under the lip. The only tough part is slowing down. Still have to move my feet a little cause it’s a long short board.
Outstanding review. Your surfing clips are also really useful for average joe surfers looking to improve technique. Thanks Noel.
Amazing job Noel!! This is more than just a review, you explain clearly all the concepts and dig into the details. Thanks for your hard work and keep doing what you do!
Charles Andureu Cheers bro... this one took some time and studying. Glad you appreciate the time we put into these reviews. Rob’s Board Designs are worth the time and effort and I love learning too.
Your videos are awesome; thank you. I love the passion and obvious respect you have for the science involved. I'm starting to look at my boards through a lens that is inspired by your critical thinking approach.
Loved the breakdown of the bottom contours!
bellpaleale Yewww!! I was a little concerned with how long the review is but most surfers are stoked on it.
Been looking forward to this review. Totally exceeded expectations bro! Keep shredding!
Tomas Klimas Yewww!!! Cheers
You make me want to keep buying boards with these great reviews Noel! Love how you went in depth with the bottom contour as well as experimenting with fins. The videos of you experimenting with different fins and how they perform are super helpful in visually understanding how the fins compliment a board. Hats off to another epic review buddy!
Jason G Yewww!! Cheers... I am learning a bunch about boards and fins too.
Sick review you keep getting better every time 🤙🤙
Pablo Fernández Thanks bro... this Moonbeam took some work but it’s a sick little board and fun studying surfboard design. Cheers!!!
Big shout out thanks for your reviews Noel & Co.! I wasn't too stoked on the overall looks of this board at first but your review showed it was a lot radder than that. Started riding my Moonbeam a month ago and it's the funnest board I've ridden to date. Love the instant speed and carvy-whippy-power this rocket has. I've tried a few sets of fins and have liked the FCS2 Machado 2+1 fins the best. I don't have a lot of surf shops nearby so your reviews help a ton when it's time to buy. Much success with the show and look forward to you guys new reviews. CHEERS!
Great job taking a complex bottom contour and relating it to the surfing you were doing. Awesome review! I love that you take time to include a very detailed fin breakdown, it has definitely opened my eyes to the importance of getting the right set up for the board and waves I typically ride. Thanks Noel.
jasontalevi Stoked to hear our reviews helping you out. The right fins for a good board can make it magical.
Legit as always Noel!! Thanks for always sharing your knowled. All my boards have been order from your reviews. Thanks for making it easy friendly and simple for us keep ripping!! 😎🤘🤘🤘
jose rivera Stoked thanks for the epic comments. I hope you found some epic sleds along the way. Cheers
Excellent review Noel. With the right fins that board looked so fast and good under your feet. Probably one of your better reviews. Keep em coming 🤙🏽
bushkey Cheers... fins are everything to a good board.
I know it's been almost 2 years since you posted this but I'm getting a Moonbeam from a friend and wanted to watch some info on the board. Seriously your reviews are second to none, and your surfing backs up everything you present. I feel like I'll be able to sort out which fins to get so much easier now, Thank you!!
Dusty Starr Thank you for the kind words. Moonbeam is a good time!
Amazing surfing! I watch all your reviews and this is some of the smoothest, fastest, most powerful surfing I have seen you do. You got the Machado Flow.
Jimmy Danella Yewww! Cheers
This is your best review yet noel. Super impressed. I love my moonbeam. I got one in futures and have it in medium alphas, quad set up too and love it. Not tried it as a thruster yet as I thought quad would be a better ride. Keep up the great reviews
Michael Pemberton Stoked... thanks for posting how much you like yours and what fin size and set up your running. Cheers
Excellent as always Noel
Thank you very much! that's what we need , try to understand what are the practial efects of the shape and fins we use on our boards and why, and you broke it down for us really good, good luck with your next reviews ;)
I like how you explained the theory behind the board. I always wondered why Rob chose to shape it that way. Great review Noel!
Deforest L. Cooper Cheers
I have this board in a 5’6 I’m 6’0 200 pounds definitely sacrifice paddle power but once I get up on a wave the board preforms flawlessly super fun board to ride in all conditions
Awesome review! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Wish i had enough money to buy one....great review Noel 🤙🏼
First off Noel your reviews are very good and technical which is really good to the advanced surfer , you give a interesting spin on the reviews thats not over the top for the beginning to intermediate surfers your surfing is really good you show how the boards are going to work in all types of conditions , and using different fin see-up's it takes a lot of guess work into buying boards .Im sold going to purchase some firewire boards thank you Noel
Mario Viescas Yewww! Stoked you like our show. Let me know what boards you get and how they go for you. Cheers
By far the best and most thorough reviews out there IMO, so helpful for me, rebuilding a whole new quiver after divorce, the ex destroyed ALL my boards. Anyway it looks like your throwing (way) more spray on this board than some others just an observation. This will be my next board for sure for small waves thanks again.
D F Stoked you like this review and thanks for the kind words.
I like the way this board works with how you surf. I really had written this board off and wasn't even going to think about getting one but I'm for sure interested now.
Also I live and surf in Hawaii so with a bit more power in the waves here I'm also interested in the Midas which seems to have that same "board eat board" bottom but shows that it works better in bigger waves. it would be awesome to see you ride both to see how you look on both and what you think they feel like in comparison to each other. Again as I was saying above, I really haven't thought about buying a board designed by Rob M. because I have never looked at him like a serious shaper for the masses. he surfs really amazingly well and has a style that is super fun to watch but I feel like his skill and retro style could make anything he designs look good. Ive watched, I think, all of your videos and I try to pay attention to how you look riding boards compared to the others. I even pull up two videos at once to try to feel them out sometimes. I really like how your style seemed to flow with the moonbeam. I was surprised about this board. I think it would be really great to see how you compare the small wave Rob board to the Rob board that is supposed to handle a bit more.
Great job in what you're doing here.
Geoff Smith Super fun board... now the Midas is in my radar big time.
Great job hermano!!!
Saw this model in the shop. After your review i am torn between the Cymatic and Moonbeam for my smaller wave board :-I
Rodney Odgaard The Cymatic needs a wave with a little push for it to go good. The Cymatic is more of a Daily Driver/HPSB
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Sweet, I live in Indonesia, My 33L Scifi was awesome but too much volume for my liking. I am happy with the feel of 29-30 liters in my Gamma and Omni. Loved the Scifi double bat tail for going vertical and love the rounded nose/swing weight of the Omni. So I am very excited to get me a 5'6"-5'7" Cymatic. Thanks champion 🤙
Great review, honest, and straight to the point, great job Noel, you are the best. i don't think the bottom of the board at 5'4", is working in hydrodynamics as you they said . the surface is too small to get an effect, too much lines under board. but the board looks good under Noel's feet, you make any board looks amazing. everyday surfers have to go over and search for the board they need. Best surf review !
Blade Runner Cheers... thanks for your honest feedback too.
Another great review Noel, you could surf a plank of wood and still be able to rip on it while also providing a comprehensive review on it :D
Love how you appreciate the feedback and stoke by replying to 90% of the comments.
Keep them coming!
Rome Stoked you liked this review. I’m stoked on our community and how engaged everyone is.
Nice review
the song compliments the video, the board and the song flows nicely together
Miguel Marquina I love Ron Artis’ music. Epic
are you planning on doing one on the firewire cymatic.. i have a go fish already but after watching this... damn i want a moonbeam too.. hahaha... you are one of the few people talking about fins so in depth.. i have a few other boards that i just thought i didn't like until i started switching fin sizes, mix and matching and its a massive difference.. i've recently been doing for thruster large side fins then putting a medium back and its been a blast as well.. thanks as usual for the breakdowns its changed my surfing..
wolf So stoked to hear your messing with fin set ups and getting your boards dialed.
Yes, the Cymatic is next up!!!
Hell of a break down
Rad , thanks !
Hey Noel.
Pleeeaaaaaasssssseee make a review on the Midas.
I just stuck in the middle and don’t know witch I should bye . 🙏🏻
Cheers for all your reviews!
Robert Langdon We will try to get the Midas review on the review block soon.
Hey guys I tried this board with the AM2 aircore quad set up (fcs2). The set up was in a large and it had way too much hold. I’m not a fin expert but I did minor in physics in college and that knowledge could be applied to surfing. The new aircores are sick because the same theory of putting carbon on the board wether on the rails or down the middle, gives the board pop. If you put fins with carbon it will create less drag because of the weight, this means more drive down the line and the carbon makes the flex of the fins a lot quicker so just like ridding a board and popping back into its normal state quicker so do the fins so imagine extra pop in the fins to compliment the pop of the board. Mediums were way better on this board
Miguel Marquina Good stuff.. thanks for posting.
Between your Seaside review and the Moonbeam I couldn't resist. Fantastic 2 board combo for Florida (over head-high works great too). I won't even buy a board unless you review it first :) Sincerely thanks
IndialanticRob Yewww!!! Stoked you found two epic sleds
IndialanticRob Hi I read you have both Seaside and Moonbeam. I love my seaside and thinking about getting the moonbeam for better conditions. Do you confirm the benefit of having both boards for different conditions? I’m worried that these two boards a kind of duplication
@@scatterbrain1975 totally different boards. both flat in nature but I find the Seaside can get out of control with swell size. Moonbeam is a fishy performance that has the drive for anything the Seaside can't handle. Florida anyway...riding as a quad its loose and just flows.
Awesome detailed review. You should develop a scale for measuring rocker (for example, 2 inches front and 3 inches rear rocker), somewhat in the way that future fins give a ride number for their fins. You're the only one out there talking in a scientific way about boards. You can help take the mystery out of board design and bring more knowledge to us kooks! Keep dropping the science and thanks again for the great content.
P R Good idea and thanks for the kind words.
Your reviews of unusual boards (bonzer, moonbeam etc.) are super instructive. Please get your hands on a Greedy Beaver from Firewire. Crazy wide longboard nose and pintail in the back (based on Takayama's Scorpion). Would be a trip to see you surf it. I just ordered one! can't wait to try it.
P R Sounds like a sick board
Best review yet! I've owned the Moonbeam for two months and concur with everything you've said, (not that I'm pretending to be an expert). I run medium FCSII Firewire quad fins. I'm about 68kg/150lb and use a 6'4" because our wave is so flat...it's more of a longboard/SUP area. This board was a game changer for me. Unbelievable speed coupled with great turning performance. I can risk cutbacks now without risk of washing off on the smaller days. I thought the channel and tail might have just been marketing tools....but I'm a believer now. It's magic. Two pumps down the line, and Flash!....warp speed. Cheers.
Grimmace Stoked... thanks for posting your experience with the Moonbeam. This helps us all know how the Moonbeam goes in your wave conditions. Cheers
Great review as always! You’re by far the best RUclips reviewer. Honest and fair. I’m 5’7 160 pound beginner/lower intermediate. Think it could be ridden as a 6’2 as a first shortboard?
Charles Hawk Yes, it should offer you good float, stability, and control. Let me know how it goes for you.
Surf n Show Reviews will do. I’m 36 and started surfing late (32). I don’t know how you guys ride those short sizes and low volume. I need s minimum of 39. You’re surfing is sick!
Charles Hawk Cheers... you will go down in volume yourself as you progress. Lots of practice like anything else.
Hey Charles. I'm 150lb and on a 6'4". I'm an older intermediate+ dude. Aside from duck diving the 40L, I'm leaving the beach with a massive smile every time out. It's my 7th short board, and by far the best one yet. I can't shut up about.
Grimmace thanks for the reply! This review and your comment was enough for me to go ahead and order a moonbeam, I’ve been on the fence for a couple months. Thanks again!
Another epic review from the creative house workshop of Noel Salas!
great job on the review, explaining about fins (some surfers don't understand how important that is) and some old school wisdom from George Greenough and Machado.
It seems that all boards by Machado have some magic to them, ha?
waiting for the next review!
excellent work man!
thank you
Honestly, this is truly the first "magical" board I've owned. (there's a stack collecting dust in the garage since this arrived)
@@Jeeiff maybe try the Go-fish by Machado. I'm sure you will find some magic in it.
It is a twin fin for small days.
enjoy it.
Amit Rattenbach Stoked you liked this review and thanks for the kind words. Next up Slater Designs Cymatic!!!
I didn't like it, I loved it!!!!! Great job breaking down the mechanics of the board. I'm sure that alone was tough to do. I love that you put up the guy that inspired the whole board eat board technology on the screen that was great too. Do you have the jack freestone apple watch? LOL. One of the complaints that I got from friends on the midas was that the actual leash guard was digging into the knifey tail, disrupting the edge and creating a trip to the ding repair shop. I accidentally brought the board out on a bigger day at blacks were it was a few feet overhead and broken up so the sections and drops were super critical to make and to my surprise this board delivered into getting me into the pocket of some meaty beach breaks at blacks. So you recommend a smaller fin? That makes sense being that the board already has plenty of drive. I was hoping that you would introduce the 2 + 1 set up in the FCS2 fin boxes. I put in the MR's with the bright color blend on top and the board was fun in smaller surf, if you get a chance, you should check it out, if you still have the board. All in All, great review and great presentation although I did notice some bumps in the editing as the review rolled through. Cheers!!!
Miguel Marquina Cheers thanks for your feedback. This board review took some time and I edited out stuff that I said twice to shorten it down as much as possible.
I will run the 2+1 set up on the Midas when I get it. It should be a good review too. Cheers
Off course i Will never surf like u. But the brands must see Your show. I want every single surfboards you show us . Your message definitely reaches all world. You must be sponsored in order to reconized your effort. Great job man. congrats.
Ps: sorry about my poor english
GGN Thank you for the kind words and we are stoked you like our show!!!
What boards do you have in your quiver right now and what’s your favorite board?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 i've been watch your show for a while and I have became a big fan. I went california last year and bought the JS Nitro on hy fi and The SKX, just because your thougths. By the way, when the surf market will realized that you are a great (or the best) digital influencer? Some people receive a lot of money just to share some photos and influences all kind of markets. You have a hard work and deserve be payfull. Your main goal is the surfboards reviews. But you could do some sponsored reviews about clothes or gears. thank u so much again
GGN Great ideas and thank you for all the positive feedback. Stoked you found some epic boards too!!! Cheers
that looked so good, especially smooth top turns throwing buckets. Might you review MACHADO SEASIDE?
Ben Post Yes, I am planning on it.
Very similar to what Gary Mcneill has been shaping for Rasta for some time now. Venturi channel with concave on the side panels.
Patrick Cummings I have heard a few comments and it sounds like there are a few shapers out there have been messing with conclaves similar for a while now. Interesting and fun to learn. Cheers
I could see it looking a little more solid with a little less width and little more length. But still, great surfing and some style points especially on the wrap-arounds.
Bon Summers Cheers!!!
Noel another fantastic review. It’s funny I’ve been waiting all summer for a moonbeam review from anyone. I ended up getting a Cymatic. Hopefully you a review for that in the pipeline. I’m still waiting on my board to come in. Very curious about fin set up with that board. Ps. Your gamma review helped me a ton with fin choices.
Maurice Cureton So stoked you liked this review.
The Cymatic review is up next!!! Not sure on what day it will drop but it will be live within the next two weeks or so. Cheers
Thanks Noel for the reply. Do you like the Alpha series? I’ve mostly been riding Am2 or Black Sticks in futures. Looking to try something different!
Maurice Cureton Yes I like the Alpha construction.... good flex and affordable.
I have the Cymatic too and love that shit. Though I'm still trying to figure out what conditions I can ride it properly in...
CW Rodriguez I think it goes good in 3-6’ surf.... like a HPSB.
Great indepth review as always. If you could pick just one machado board for waist to headhigh for a right hand point would you choose the Moonbeam, Midas or Go fish.
Paul Baker Seaside!!!
Great review. I wanted to know of the performers you used in this video were the large or small ones
ev su I used the Large Performers but the Mediums would go better.
Nice review, very complete ! I have a question though, did you tryed it as a quad with a Futures setup ? I am interested to know which one you’d choose if you didn’t.
Thanks for all this !
Leon Leullier You can run the Jack Freestone Medium with the AM1 Quad rears. You can also run the JJF Alpha medium side fins with the AM Quad Rears. Maybe try some other medium side fins that you already have and see how it goes before you run out and buy new fins.
Hey Noel, great reviews. So much detail. I’m looking at one of these at the moment but wondering what size you would suggest. I’m 38, 175cm and 90kg. Intermediate surfer. Cheers mate 🤙🏼
Brodie Beeton I say 38-40 liters is a good liter range
Hi Noel, a big Thank you for all of your reviews, it really helped me in understanding how boards work. This time I'm writing because I'm an intermediate/confirmed surfer about to hit the 50yo gap and used to surf boards that might be a bit under or overvolumed and I don't want to make any mistake anymore. I'm surfing not as much as I would like but since my 13. My last shortboard was like a No Brainer by Firewire 6'4x21x2,75 and I was wondering wether a 6'8 moonbeam could do well for me?
Thanks for all
Yves MEINRAD Go with similar liters as Your favorite Daily Driver.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 HI Noel, never had a board indicating literage on... how shall I do?
Yves MEINRAD Here is a good formula to figure out liters. Take your weight in pounds and divide it by 6. For example my weight is 160 lb... divide that by 6 = (26.6L) For Expert to Advanced level surfers. For intermediate level surfers just add 1-2 liters more. For beginners I say long board with lots of foam... make it easy for them.
Awesome video once again! Would you choose a gremlin, rocket wide, or moonbeam for small mushy surf?
Meloosh Barrel That’s a tough call... if the surf is 1-2” and super mushy then I would go Gremlin... it paddles best and it projects really good.
If there is a little push and a pocket to surf then Rocket Wide.
The Moonbeam would be my third choice and I would ride it as a Quad most of the time in 1-4’ surf.
Smooth surfn! Rocket Wide vs Moonbeam; I take it the rw will turn a bit easier but which generates more speed without having to get your wiggle on?
Ben Post The MB can handle bigger surf in my opinion but the RW seems to grovel better. The RW has a tighter turning radius in smaller waves too.
Thanks for great review! I've been obsessing with this board. I am 6'1 167lbs intermediate-beginner looking to improve. Changing my 6'0 shortboard i've been riding past year and wondering whether 5'8 Moonbeam would be good option?
Tomas Zeman Sounds good to me...
Noel, Evo he review for xmass ? :-P , i cant wait to see you surfing this board.
This review is a must
Should i get this or the go fish waves were i live are small 1-3 most days and i dont like longboarding what do ya think. Or is their another board i should try
Great review! Would the Machado seaside Quads work in the Moonbeam?
Woz & Nic Maybe... trial and error. That’s what makes surfing so fun... give it a go and see how it feels.
I love your show Noel. Seeing and testing all those boards, do you get more and more confused regarding what board you take out when you go surf just for you and not to test a board or does it help you really narrow your quiver ? All the best from France, where the quick pro will start very soon.
Paul
Paul James I don’t have a personal quiver anymore.... I am always testing boards and fins. I usually have a Groveler, HPSB, and a Retro Board in the line up for testing on a regular basis. So whatever the waves look like we are shooting for a review and trying to be productive.
Thank you for your work and sharing your knowledge the way you did it. I really enjoy the way you surf. wish you the best
Paul James Likewise!! Glad you like our show. Cheers
Dang dude, your reviews are killer, much appreciated! Two questions: I can’t find a review on the Hypto Krypto, done one? 2. Your volume choices; Looks like you weigh 160 pounds, and your riding around 25 liter + boards with small wave EPS, epoxy etc. I’ve been surfing my whole life, 6’2 usually around 160-165 pounds, haven’t gotten into volume until recently as I’ve just been experimenting with different boards. Just bought a Hypto Krypto 5’6, 26.31L that feels great under my arm, haven’t surfed it yet. If you don’t mind me asking does your volume preference change, or dip, when you’re choosing epoxy/EPX boards vs normal polyU? And how much, or what’s your range? I’ve had my shaper John Hromin with Boomerang boards shape me a epoxy performance shorty before and I liked it for mid tang surf, and I’ve ridden my friends Krypto for two waves and it felt magical, so I’m excited, but I would appreciate your volume feedback in choosing future small/medium wave boards with all this new material tech. Thanks for your awesomeness 😎
I’ve watched your review on the holy grail, probably should have commented on that video, but also interested in the moon beam 🌙 🕺
Sean Silvestri Stoked you like our show!! I say EPS floats about 1/2 liter more compared to PU. My range in EPS is roughly 24.7- 26.3. If I add 0.5 liters to 24.7 then it will float like 25.2 or so.... I hope that helps.
Surf n Show Reviews Awesome thanks. What’s your range for PU?
Sean Silvestri My rage in PU is 25.5-26.8
Noel, did you size this similar to your normal shorty? I have the Go Fish in 35L, weigh 210lbs and it's the perfect volume but it's also a different shape than the Moonbeam. Should I stick with the 35L in the Moonbeam?
for real?
Awesome review! What quad setup would you recommend for futures? JJF Alphas with different medium quad rears?
Joey Farrell If your using Medium Side fins then you should get Small Quad Rears.
Futures has new Quad Trailers coming out soon.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks for the advice and such a quick response! Cheers
How does this board compare to the EVO for speed and hold and general turning ,as I am coming from a Vader which is great but after seeing this board it looks fast and fun, deal breaker for me is which surfs best on the backhand . The Vader took a bit of time to dial in.
Dicko301 Sorry I never tried the Vadar or EVO
Hey noel im a long time subscriber and love your reviews.
I have the the option of the 5'8 29.8l and the 5'10 around 33l moonbeam. Im 187 lb and advanced/intermediate surf 3-5 times a week. East Coast aus. Normally waist to head high. I ride between 29 and 32 l normally. Im worried the rail on the 5'8 might be a bit low 2 5/16 But then 33l if the volume hidden well might be ok??
james williams I would go 5’10 at 33 liters. The 5’8” will be too small
Would you please do a review on a asymmetrical board I think it would be interesting to see what you think because there's a lot of talk about these boards. ALOHA
Kahele Koki The Asymmetrical I tried I could not get it to stop sliding out. I tried all kinds of different fins and I could not get the traction I needed to surf it well.
Rajadat! Keep your reviews coming I think it's the best on RUclips for sure MAHALO
I Just bought a new board, a proton, and I am really in trouble do find the right fins, if you could do a revew I would apreciate it
JP Luz Use the Al Merrick fins for that board.
Hey Noel I just bought a moonbeam and I'm curious what speed generating future fin you think would go well with the board and the channels. Or do you think the board with the John John alphas have enough speed to begin with? Cheers from New Jersey!
Matt Spak I think the Moonbeam will go good with the AM1 Blackstix. The JJF Alpha is epic too.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel you're the man keep up the good work, hope you get your voice back soon!
So the Moonbeam and the Midas are pretty similar in dimensions. Have you ridden both and why would someone get one vs the other?
Eric Disque I have not ridden the Midas yet but I hope to do a review on one soon. The Midas is more of a daily Driver and the Moonbeam is more of a Groveler from what I understand.
Oooo cymatic in the background??
Dustin Lingenfelter Yup... the Cymatic review drops in roughly two weeks!!!
Do you think we can use this board with 2 + 1 fins?
Lucas Franceschini Yes... give it a go
Hey guys, awesome review! question I am a beginner I rode the 6'8 and loved it. I Live in SF where the waves aren't as clean; whats your opinion of this board as you increase the length towards it's maximum size (6'10)? I am 6'0 195lbs
Gabriel Acorda I think it will go good in Clean conditions but it might struggle in the chop. Sometimes EPS boards are a little hard to sink the rail in the heavy textured surf. I would try to demo one first and see how it goes in the chop.
I'm 150lb and own a 6'4" Moonbeam. Our waves are thick, slow, small and crumbly and that board outperforms anything I've ever ridden in that size range. That said, It does shine best in cleaner conditions. I am considering the 6'10" to replace my 7.0 super fish for those longboard days.
Grimmace Epic... thanks for posting your experience with your Moonbeam!!!
Just bought a 6’10 moonbeam secondhand as a first short board after having fun on a 6’6 catch surf skipper as Well as predominantly riding mini mals and longboards for the last 7-8 years. Looking forward to trying something new out ... I just hope I can paddle into waves ok!!
Hey Noel, I saw a used one come up. With all that's going on with the design, are their any kinks or weird characteristics in riding the board? Do you think it would go OK if it's oversized for bigger winter rubber and surf? It looks like you're ripping on it. Thanks!
Nothing weird... maybe only go up roughly 1 liter for winter rubber.
Noel,I've only surfed longboards but want to now try shortboards.I'm 6-3,185 lbs.What length and type of.board do you recommend? Thanks!
Mike Dowell Maybe a first short board should be a hybrid type. Around 34-36 liters for starters. I would even try something used to keep it affordable to find the right feel for yourself. A few models to check out. CI Mini, Pod Mod, Pyzel Gremlin, Machado Seaside. These boards are fast and paddle very well and you don’t need much of a wave to get them going.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks!
Looked really good under your feet. Looked super smooth through turns.
A quick question on the new Kolohe paint job. Are they still stiffer then the old yellow ones or have they gone back to the original feel? Cheers mate great review.
Richard Embery They feel a like the older yellow ones but I need more time on them. I will continue to test them and make sure. Hit me up in a week or two. Cheers
Surf n Show Reviews Cheers mate
I don’t know if you realise that the Merrick quad rear in the medium set is actually just a small performer template quad rear. The lge Merricks have a medium performer template.
So you were actually riding a small quad rear with medium front fins on the FCS board.
Richard Embery Interesting... I will have to check that out. Thanks for info...
Richard Embery I just checked the Large AM Quad Rears to the Medium Performer Quad Rears like you suggested and they are really close. Not sure they are exact but it’s really close to the same size and template. With that being said I believe you that I was basically riding a Small Quad Rears with Medium side fins. This Moonbeam felt better with Medium fins compared to Large... basically a smaller fin works better with Rob’s “Board eat Board” design in my opinion. Thanks for helping me out....
Any chance of you doing a review of the MIDAS? Great reviews, thanks.
Nick Muzik The Folks at Firewire said they were not interested in us reviewing the Midas. Sorry
Surf n Show Reviews wow, really! Any idea if it’s as good as the moonbeam?
Nick Muzik I rode one but it was a little big for me... I needed a smaller one.
Is this board still in production?
If I’m 130 pounds give or take, wear a thick wetsuit and am an intermediate/advanced surfer would a 5’4 at 25.8L be too much foam?
I say that’s perfect for you….
Have you ever tried this board with a Twin fin set up? Or Twin with trailer?
Sorry.. I don’t remember. I think it will go good though
Hey Noel will you be reviewing the Midas?
Ryan The Rock I sure hope so. I have requested it a while ago and I think they are working on getting me a couple right now. Hang tight....
Thanks for the reply Noel
So...which fin set-up did you like best? Dang dude , you are going to make me buy another board. Between the Pyzel/DHD and now this.
monkeypawism They are all fun... I like the Quad set up the best.
Also, if that 5'4" is the smallest in stock dims, I'm wondering if it's too big for me at 5'6" 130-135 lbs.
monkeypawism It might be a little big for you. What is the volume on you small wave board right now?
I have a 5'1" go fish 25.5 and it's perfect. My shortboards are 22-24
monkeypawism If the Go Fish is good at 25.5 liters then your good to go on the 5’4” Moonbeam at 25.8. Stoked
Is it because of that bog that the board didn’t make the favs list?
Miguel Marquina Not at all. For me it took a little bit to connect with this board.... finding the right fins, fin size, and then it started to go really good. This model is so fun just did not make my favorites list. It was close though... two of my friends grabbed the two I did this review on and they swear by this model. Their favorites for sure. Cheere
That board made you look like you went up to pro level 😆
christian reece Cheers
Nice review. I think if you raffle off your boards for $5. a ticket you would make bank$$ Just a suggestion because I would donate for a chance to get one of your boards.
P A Thanks for the idea.... maybe we will try something like that in the future.
Hi noal.what volume u recomend for advaced surfer.89kg?age45. .1.82h. I realy whant your opinion
Please
X -MAN X MAN 32-33 liters
@@surfnshowreviews7777 im on35liter.weak wavs..afraid to go to 33 liter.are you sure?
Medeterian sea
X -MAN X MAN What liters are you riding on your small wave boards?
for a minute I thought Rob shaved all his hair
Louis Bernard Classic!!!
Yeah - no - Tomo has been far more adventurous in extending concave lift for surfboards, and trying to find channels that provide traction with the speed and lift enabled. Machado's board tends to bog and suck water too much as it goes on a rail (you can see it). The parallel rails and low rocker give it speed, but it slows too much in arcs. Wide point behind centre? Barely significant because of all the parallel foam volume extending into the front half of the board.The half moon tail attempts to release water faster to get it into turns. Waist-high peelers with a quad set up likely best, not really for power carving or advanced surfing, of course only IMHO.
This or Seaside?
monkeypawism Seaside
First time I see Noel surfing without a wetsuit.
daniel vb I am a baby when it comes to cold water. Water has been warm lately... 75.
I want a bumper sticker that reads I love my moonbeam
Miguel Marquina That would be classic!!!
Who's the one knuckledhead who thumbs downed this ish? Dummy...
Still looks laterally oriented like a wide template fish with hints of bogging.
FCS fin boxes are ugly. Just make them foam-white,… like teeth. Ya'll got white teeth, right? Nothin' racist about that.
Bon Summers Classic....
Any board you make smooth.