Tolkien actually wouldn't. Tolkien would have hated the films. Christopher Tolkien knew his father very well and stated that Tolkien would've hated what Peter Jackson did with the books. BFME is a game interpretation of the movie. Tolkien would've been indifferent about the game, he would've hated the movies though. Don't assume because the movies were a fancy interpretation of the books that Tolkien loved more than life, DOES NOT mean he would be "proud." The movies focused on the battles of the books, while in the books they took up one short chapter in each book. A few battles per book, Taking up a tiny portion of a chapter and on rare occasion on chapter. BFME, the LOTR films, Tolkien would NOT be proud of.
Kaiser He made no reference to the movies nor the interpretation of Tolkien's books. Regardless of whether Tolkien would've liked the movies I believe that Alex is saying that Tolkien would be proud that a small group of 30 developers are fighting to keep his universe alive in the form of BFME when it was abandoned by EA so long ago.
Skirmish against the AI is the only reason I play this game. I have no interest in getting run over by people online who have memorized build orders, and play like they’re on speed and cocain. Nor do I have interest in getting yelled at by my teammates for not playing an ideal meta build. I like to do my own thing.
When it comes to the surprise that you guys had with how many people are interested in skirmish, I think the reason that happens is because most people that play skirmish are not vocal in the community. They just play their games and leave. I also believe that they are the majority of players. The reason they might be perceived as a minority is because they don't have this constant interaction like the online community does. I do believe that adding a skirmish from the get go would improve player perception and reception of the game. The reason being that most people migrate from skirmish to online and not the other way around. Also, I think it will be harder to retain a fan base without some sort of skirmish or campaign mode. I feel like a lot of players might try the online mode and will become frustrated when matched against better opponents. Even though you guys plan on adding a ranking system, in reality, unless you have a HUGE population playing the game, either queues will be to long, or ranking will not be perfect, which will lead to frustration and people leaving the game. The reason I bring this up is because I absolutely love this game, and I think your project is AMAZING and I want it to succeed. I want it to surpass all expectations actually. Me posting this is my way of contributing to the game. I hope this helps in any level!
Agreed! Skirmish is vital to any RTS game and online only would be a major hindrance to acquiring new players upon release. Also, skirmish is exactly how I honed my build strategies and techniques that I learned from gamereplays.org before I ventured into the online community many years ago.
TesGon I'd love to see both the original and witch king/bfme2 campaigns put in. Albeit the original involves the settlement-based building it's still got this nice little charm to it imo, and overall a great campaign, I just wish you could increase the unit cap
"The online community was hands down the biggest part of BfMe2" - no, just not true. The online community was a tiny micro fragment of the millioins of people that played skirmishes; and still play them to this very day! I for my part spend thousands of hours playing the same skirmishes over and over and over again, because the game is just so good, so perfect; and I know other people did too. Its your game and we are all so very grateful for what you are doing here. But if you don't see that Skirmishes are BY FAR the most important factor for the success of this project this might also not end up good for the online community. Just imagine if Edain-Mod would only offer online mode and no skirmish, I don't see a 10th of the people playing it.
and what if its to hard to create a AI that means that they cant release a game at all for you anymore no mp and no skirmish think about that ignoring total how hard development is of a AI
@@thomazogaming1940 Better that then something that is impossible to play or no fun to play. We won't be any worse off then we are now scrounging for the old game or ISO's.
This work is purely brilliant guys! I love Jackson's movies and Toliens work. I respect and admire your passion, spending so many hours of your free time to bring to us this masterpiece. Unfortunately I myself don't like MP at strategy games, especialy when it's about hand 2 hand combat. I'm gonna wait for the single player. I personally, don't think your priority should be the MP for the reason that first you need a player base. Player base is all about turn on your PC, run the application and jump to a fast loading skirmish match, instead of waiting for servers to respond or searching for other players to go online. Personal opinion. Again this game is gonna kick ass! I hope and wish that you never gonna get copyright issues. Rock on!
You do realise that there is hardly any extra resources needed to make MP? Ranking and server... they are simply making all the gameplay mechanics and MP allows us to actually play with said mechanics.... making an AI (skirmish) is way to hard and time consuming for a project like this. They are not even finished with 1 full faction....
@@jessy_dh Ye, but Im not saying make it right now. Lets let them take their time and see what they do. AI is surely very "painful" for a programmer. Idk, maybe they can import commands from the original games. May be not. Time will tell. Still amazing work!
Sorry, but without skirmish I won't be able to play, since I live in Argentina and would be insulted because of the lag I cause in the game. Even if I could play, I don't like MP, skirmishes and war of the ring are to me the essence of this game, the role-play possibilities are amazing, and the quickness of the skirmish mode is what got my attention in the game for so long! That said, you are the ones doing the game, and I am incredibly grateful for what you are doing.
You guys are doing an amazing job but just because you liked the multiplayer version of the game that doesn’t mean the rest of us did. That’s why EA shut down the servers in the first place. I have like 600 hours in the game and 1 of them its online. Keep up and please release a BFME for all of us so everybody (especially you after all you’ve been through to Reforge this epic game) will be happy.
Skirmish is much better than playing online. The majority of players play skirmish instead of online, might as well focus in skirmish rather on online.
Much love to you guys! Never been a fan of tryhard competitive online gaming in BFME, but I understand your point. Slower games, turtling and destroying brutal AI with my friends has always been my biggest pleasure. Anyways, keep up the good god's work! ^_^
I honestly cannot believe the outcry for a skirmish mode. What do you people not understand about when they say it is way too complicated and time consuming to be focusing on right now? My god for this project to even be a thing is a true blessing in and of itself!
You should understand that skirmish is not a community thing and that this is a community project - thus it shall serve as a thing that CONNECTS people which means online gaming, tournaments, competitions, events etc., not playing boring skirmish against the same AI over and over again. Lot of projects like this were not finished just because they thought way too big - so first lets build online community, get more recognition and then maybe - add skirmish, campaing and other stuff and even more people will come.
still think that skirmish should have a much higher priority than it have now, honestly I have no need to play this mod if it will only have online battles.
@@thomazogaming1940 I am fully aware of how hard is to create an AI especially for a game like this but still the amount of people that wants skirmish is just to great to be that much overlooked. By including skirmish to this mod/game would greatly increase its popularity
I'm actually only 15 right now and grew up playing these beautiful games for as long as I can remember (ahh the days when I would lose to easy ai). I'm so proud that there are people working to revive this dwindling community!
Great work guys, we really appreciate all the time and commitment the team is putting into the game. I haven’t played much BFME lately, but I am in love with the series and hope it doesn’t die out. Good luck!
Zero interest in online mode, offline single player is where this game shines. Every game in the world should have any form of offline single player, otherwise it will be destined to fail at one point due to loss of interest, bad communities, server issues, etc.
Great Job Fellas!!!! Ya, my 3 brothers and I love 4 v 4 comp stomp!! Plz bring back skirmish!!!! Back in Ranked mode I got to "6" How do you Donate???????
If you have skills in creating AI in video games, maybe you should contact the developers and offer to help. If a few people with those skills joined the team, they could probably work on the skirmish mode in parallel with the rest of the team, so it would not slow down the developement process as much.
Not going to lie, HUGELY dissapointed by the Skirmish lack. I'm in my 30's now, and I find the MP community gets more and more toxic week by week.. so I tend to stick to SP stuff now. being forced to play MP with others to enjoy a game I once loved leaves a bad taste in my mouth :
Hence why multiplayer is overrated but most won't tell you that because they don't want to admit it, a lot of things in this world that require the participation of others are always at fault because of the nature of people (Lack of maturity is still largely present) particularity in the case of online play because of its element of anonymity which can be a gift and a curse to deal with... That's why for me personally I just can't involved in that kind of atmosphere anymore as its simply too draining for me (Getting older doesn't help either lol) and all it does is make me think that i'm just wasting my time.
I agree completely. I manage to eliminate it from my own team by only grouping with other likeminded adults, but even then.. enemies can be toxic, poor sports etc.. most game systems, even flawed ones can be fun.. until the lowest common denominator gets a hold of it to abuse said mechanic etc :P basically, people suck. so Skirmish is a KEY component for myself.
Uh dude they are remaking this game and putting it out for free. They even said that they never intended to not have skirmish mode in the final release. You have no right to be "hugely disappointed"
Oh Leon, Don't be that guy, nobody likes that guy. It is irrelevant if it is free or £50. I am entitled to an opinion. and in that, skirmish not being a 'backbone' is an issue for me. it kills not only single player, but assumingly without skirmish AI, it means no co op vs comps (comp stomps) either. another fun aspect of the game. How do you think small places get their feedback? from peoples opinions, and given 43 others have liked it, I'm obviously not alone in my statement. so stop trying to white knight for a game group. because somebody had an opinion you disagree with. fuckwit.
disappointed about the lack of skirmish...never been bothered about multiplayer games. I guess I can stick to regular RotWK until you get round to the other aspects of the game.
I was very excited for this but lost my enthusiasm when i heard about skirmish not being included. In my humble opinion, skirmish is the soul of this game. Playing it competitively online leads to frustration and you can't really take your time to enjoy the world you are playing in, the models and the features of each unique map.I see that many people have the same mindset and share this opinion here. I realize that creating AI from scratch in a new engine is extra work but hope you manage to include this important feature to the game which will help keep a healthy playerbase. Cheers!
Choosing to focus on MP is a HUGE oversight. The largest playerbase is clearly in the skirmish category... as can be seen by the input and comments that you have received to date. So much of the time that could be spent on admiring the game, models, buildings and scenery is lost when playing MP. Skirmish enables us to truly absorb the time and effort put in by the devs, especially those in the artwork and model side of things. MP pulls the focus away from the lore and beauty of the game and puts it solely on defeating the opponent. The Tolkien universe is more about the setting and lore of Middle Earth than it is about the warfare. True, the game is called "BATTLE for ME", but the majority of Tolkien and LOTR fans are not here for the battle component. Sometimes it is just about playing an easy skirmish game and absorbing the sights and sounds of the game.
I definitely agree with many of the comments, skirmish is definitely my most played game mode in BFME. Being able to match up against whichever opponent, make the match suitable for whatever mood your in; slaughtering your opponents easily or having a long and even fight. Although I really enjoy online games, skirmish really brings something different to the table. It allows players of all skills to create a perfect match suited for their level of skill. I am really sad to hear it is not a huge priority, but just the fact that you guys are reworking the game gets me ecstatic. Keep up the good work and thank you for bringing it back!
I am a big fan of your work and actually happy that this project is working and coming real. I would like to suggest you to use the books while improving and changing the game for example the spells of each hero and faction because some of the characters does not have their full abilities in the game. Also the mirkwood elves uses both sword/spear, shield and bow in the books and the movies but in the game they are only using bows. I believe if things like these are fixed and improved it will benefit both the game, community and the precious effort you’re putting into this work. Thank you for the update.
God ı cannot wait you guys are just doing so much for comunity and ı dont know what can ı say.I dont know modding or game making but if there is something we can help we will be happy to do it. :D
I just want to say two things, One: Thank you to your team for working on this project, do take your time and focus on keeping yourselves motivated and happy, sure we might all want this as fast as possible, but I'd rather it be dealt with comfort on your guys end, what I've seen so far is incredible and I'm hyped to see what more will become available. Two: I'm just wanting to throw in my own words regarding the whole skirmish side of things, I too am one of the people who personally would prefer single player content, Does that mean I don't want to play online? of course not I'd love too! however its not something I imagine I'd be able to jump onto quickly and feel comfortable with even though I have prior experience with BFME1 and 2 and I'll quickly explain why. I can understand the fact the online must have been booming for these games when they were active. But I'm positive there were just as many people like myself who didn't actually have internet connections! (terrifying right? xD) So we only had skirmish to mess with when we finished with the campaign, I remember I even made a point to make a separate save for each 'big' battle in BFME1 both good and evil respectively for the pure sense of scale since we couldn't pick the famous maps like Helms Deep or Minas Tirith originally just to mess around in it when Skirmish wasn't enough. Now in this day and age I've tried jumping online (via gameranger and etc) and while its fun to play the games I missed out on, most people who still play online on these have basically never stopped and are leagues above myself, as such it discourages some people to venture out into online as let's face it, losing over and over isn't very fun when you know your overwhelmed, add on unhappy teammates in team-games who obviously don't enjoy having the 'useless' teammate which I don't blame them for xD. So it makes players like myself lean towards single player stuff mostly. Sure we can learn and improve but it takes time, patience and good keyboard skills (for hotkeys and etc) and when you only have one of them (mine being patience xD) its not going to work for us to jump onto competitive multiplayer. But we still wanna play so naturally we jump onto skirmish instead. You've already addressed your putting in a rank system so weaker players like me could play together which is great! So for me personally I'm already happy at that but that's just my own little story and explanation I wanted to get across, sorry for length.
I remember playing both BFME games when i was like 10-12.. I was so sad when the servers went down.. I've had high hopes for a new BFME game but it never happend. Now I enjoyed all aspects of the game far as I remember.. I loved multiplayer and getting destroyed, I loved playing the campaign and I loved playing skirmishes to test out new strategies to use. Nevertheless, I will be supporting this project 100%. I wish I could help in someway but I don't really have any skills when it comes to making games in any form.. So I just donated a little sum and hope it helps. Good luck with the project!
Hello BFME:Reforged. Regarding the skirmish priority. I get that you work constantly on getting this done, which is 100% greatly appreciated! However as many as us would like a skirmish part of the game, we are hoping this is done in the future at the very least once the online part is done. Regarding the translation of the project. I'm from Denmark/Copenhagen and would LOVE to contribute in any way i can in the near future. I can code and design also when it comes to websites and databases. My education actually. Currently in ITU of Copenhagen developing Software Development. So if that is needed for some reason in the near future of 3 years, say the word (lol). Hope that this will be a reality soon. Can't wait to test this out! Regards a big fan!
You can say that about every game!!! they didn't have this technology at their time (they would have make the original game way better if it was at 2018)
That was always the case, if you pay attention to the modding scene. Even back in the times of Heroes of Might and Magic 3, the WoG mod (Wake of Gods) was still vastly superior than any other HOMM game. The same goes for countless other games.
Skirmish should be your priority, most of us couldn't play MP at that time. My personal experience with this game has always been skirmish. And I think that the mayority of people that played this game played it this way.
Maybe you have already answered this question, but here it goes. Will re-creations of Helms deep, Minas Tirith, Isengard, etc, be availabe at some point?? I remember playing with my friends at this awesome siege maps at defence or attack and feeling so into Lotr movies. So nostalgic, it would be great to have that in Reforged. Keep up the great work!
I didn’t really appreciate being talked down to about only liking skirmish and campaign. But I am glad that you are eventually wanting to add skirmish.
I truly admire this group’s efforts. It baffles me that BFME has survived so long, even after the loss of the License by EA. This game Family has great potential, and I love that this Reforged movement is taking more shape. I can’t wait to cast games on Reforged 😍 I feel that the decision to exclude RotWK content from Reforged may splinter the community over this project. However, you did mention allowing some of the more legendary mods to become developed possibly for Reforged. I do feel that BFME II does lack a large amount of content, and perhaps the inclusion of RotWK amenities or something similar (such as Angmar, or the MHH) would help broaden the scope and be less divisive of the community. Perhaps the option to switch the Expansion features off ingame? That would greatly facilitate the ease of players who play both patches and games, as it will not require a lot of extra work to switch game modes, make it less of a hassle and thus less divisive of the community. Anyways, well done to all of you, and keep up the good work! You’re efforts will forever be appreciated and revered.
I prefer a good MP than a bad skirmish, take your time and make what you want, this is already crazy that a group of people work on their free to bring back BFME. So whatever your going to do, I will be happy :D Sry for bad English and hello from France !
My experience with the hero creator is that it was extremely unbalanced in BFME2. If it is added I hope they don't have holes (like the custom archer, who was WAY overpowered.)
I would love to see campaign like in Middle earth 1 but with additional heros like Haldir, Galadriel etc. Big armies. Remade and new maps. And of course gripping plot with new different missions which could make me feel that i'm like in the film. :D you gonna make this real!
I've actually only played maybe 1 or 2 multiplayer games. I was young and not good enough for playing against players. I still play skirmish somewhat often.
Tolkien would be completely proud of you. Thanks for keeping Fan's BFME alive
Tolkien actually wouldn't. Tolkien would have hated the films. Christopher Tolkien knew his father very well and stated that Tolkien would've hated what Peter Jackson did with the books. BFME is a game interpretation of the movie. Tolkien would've been indifferent about the game, he would've hated the movies though. Don't assume because the movies were a fancy interpretation of the books that Tolkien loved more than life, DOES NOT mean he would be "proud." The movies focused on the battles of the books, while in the books they took up one short chapter in each book. A few battles per book, Taking up a tiny portion of a chapter and on rare occasion on chapter. BFME, the LOTR films, Tolkien would NOT be proud of.
Kaiser He made no reference to the movies nor the interpretation of Tolkien's books. Regardless of whether Tolkien would've liked the movies I believe that Alex is saying that Tolkien would be proud that a small group of 30 developers are fighting to keep his universe alive in the form of BFME when it was abandoned by EA so long ago.
Unless there is no single player mode. I hope Tolkien finds out and gets his axe grinding.
Skirmish against the AI is the only reason I play this game. I have no interest in getting run over by people online who have memorized build orders, and play like they’re on speed and cocain. Nor do I have interest in getting yelled at by my teammates for not playing an ideal meta build. I like to do my own thing.
so true!
and you win like this vs brutal KI?
Agreed!
I SOOOOOOO AGREE!!!!!!!
You can 1v1??
When it comes to the surprise that you guys had with how many people are interested in skirmish, I think the reason that happens is because most people that play skirmish are not vocal in the community. They just play their games and leave. I also believe that they are the majority of players. The reason they might be perceived as a minority is because they don't have this constant interaction like the online community does. I do believe that adding a skirmish from the get go would improve player perception and reception of the game. The reason being that most people migrate from skirmish to online and not the other way around. Also, I think it will be harder to retain a fan base without some sort of skirmish or campaign mode. I feel like a lot of players might try the online mode and will become frustrated when matched against better opponents. Even though you guys plan on adding a ranking system, in reality, unless you have a HUGE population playing the game, either queues will be to long, or ranking will not be perfect, which will lead to frustration and people leaving the game. The reason I bring this up is because I absolutely love this game, and I think your project is AMAZING and I want it to succeed. I want it to surpass all expectations actually. Me posting this is my way of contributing to the game. I hope this helps in any level!
Exaclty!
This is pretty much me. I get stomped online so I just play by myself.
I guess the problem here is the time and the effort of the team to create an AI.
If I could do it I would help them. I really wish I could. I just hope there is someone out there that knows how and is willing to help them do it.
Agreed! Skirmish is vital to any RTS game and online only would be a major hindrance to acquiring new players upon release. Also, skirmish is exactly how I honed my build strategies and techniques that I learned from gamereplays.org before I ventured into the online community many years ago.
Campaign & skirmish is what this game really need. But you of course don’t owe us anything.
TesGon I'd love to see both the original and witch king/bfme2 campaigns put in. Albeit the original involves the settlement-based building it's still got this nice little charm to it imo, and overall a great campaign, I just wish you could increase the unit cap
i spent 90% of my time on character building and skirmishing so hoping that those features will be included at some point
skirmish (and wotr) & campaign are the essence of this game imo.
Same it's what I did the most also the war of the Ring mutliplayer
Exactly my view as well
I practically only played War of the Ring
Wtf plays skirmish....
Skirmish is great, I'm a big fan of it
"The online community was hands down the biggest part of BfMe2" - no, just not true. The online community was a tiny micro fragment of the millioins of people that played skirmishes; and still play them to this very day! I for my part spend thousands of hours playing the same skirmishes over and over and over again, because the game is just so good, so perfect; and I know other people did too. Its your game and we are all so very grateful for what you are doing here. But if you don't see that Skirmishes are BY FAR the most important factor for the success of this project this might also not end up good for the online community. Just imagine if Edain-Mod would only offer online mode and no skirmish, I don't see a 10th of the people playing it.
and what if its to hard to create a AI that means that they cant release a game at all for you anymore no mp and no skirmish think about that ignoring total how hard development is of a AI
You misheard. It is the most DEVOTED, not the biggest.
@@thomazogaming1940 Better that then something that is impossible to play or no fun to play. We won't be any worse off then we are now scrounging for the old game or ISO's.
This work is purely brilliant guys! I love Jackson's movies and Toliens work. I respect and admire your passion, spending so many hours of your free time to bring to us this masterpiece. Unfortunately I myself don't like MP at strategy games, especialy when it's about hand 2 hand combat. I'm gonna wait for the single player. I personally, don't think your priority should be the MP for the reason that first you need a player base. Player base is all about turn on your PC, run the application and jump to a fast loading skirmish match, instead of waiting for servers to respond or searching for other players to go online. Personal opinion. Again this game is gonna kick ass! I hope and wish that you never gonna get copyright issues. Rock on!
You do realise that there is hardly any extra resources needed to make MP? Ranking and server... they are simply making all the gameplay mechanics and MP allows us to actually play with said mechanics.... making an AI (skirmish) is way to hard and time consuming for a project like this. They are not even finished with 1 full faction....
@@jessy_dh Ye, but Im not saying make it right now. Lets let them take their time and see what they do. AI is surely very "painful" for a programmer. Idk, maybe they can import commands from the original games. May be not. Time will tell. Still amazing work!
Don't get me wrong, what you do is amazing. But without a Skirmish Mode you will lose so many players on Day 1...
Creating a AI is not that ez as you think its the hardest part to make in a game and the harder the project will be the more change of failure
AI is not that difficult. They just have to team up with the ROTWK 2.01 Modders. They created an amazing AI
You guys are amazing its incredible people are making this
Sorry, but without skirmish I won't be able to play, since I live in Argentina and would be insulted because of the lag I cause in the game.
Even if I could play, I don't like MP, skirmishes and war of the ring are to me the essence of this game, the role-play possibilities are amazing, and the quickness of the skirmish mode is what got my attention in the game for so long!
That said, you are the ones doing the game, and I am incredibly grateful for what you are doing.
You guys are doing an amazing job but just because you liked the multiplayer version of the game that doesn’t mean the rest of us did. That’s why EA shut down the servers in the first place. I have like 600 hours in the game and 1 of them its online.
Keep up and please release a BFME for all of us so everybody (especially you after all you’ve been through to Reforge this epic game) will be happy.
lmao they shut the servers because their license got expired
@@renmayers2435 But their online died long before. BFME2 XBOX 360 online wasn't much to begin with.
Skirmish is much better than playing online. The majority of players play skirmish instead of online, might as well focus in skirmish rather on online.
Creating a AI is not that ez as you think its the hardest part to make in a game and the harder the project will be the more change of failure
Thomazo Gaming its not even a guarantee that people will be playing this online... most people would like a offline skirmish game mode
and what if its not even a guarantee they can release the game if they dont make mp and focus on creating a AI
excuse me? most people love playing with friends. an Offline only mode would be dumb. At least a LAN would be great.
Much love to you guys! Never been a fan of tryhard competitive online gaming in BFME, but I understand your point. Slower games, turtling and destroying brutal AI with my friends has always been my biggest pleasure. Anyways, keep up the good god's work! ^_^
Creating a AI is not that ez as you think its the hardest part to make in a game and the harder the project will be the more change of failure
I honestly cannot believe the outcry for a skirmish mode. What do you people not understand about when they say it is way too complicated and time consuming to be focusing on right now? My god for this project to even be a thing is a true blessing in and of itself!
Sad to hear skirmish not being a priority
You should understand that skirmish is not a community thing and that this is a community project - thus it shall serve as a thing that CONNECTS people which means online gaming, tournaments, competitions, events etc., not playing boring skirmish against the same AI over and over again. Lot of projects like this were not finished just because they thought way too big - so first lets build online community, get more recognition and then maybe - add skirmish, campaing and other stuff and even more people will come.
It actually IS as I love to play coop with friends ..
I do too
@@MrHaluza AI is shit and i would rather play vs you guys! I tryed edain but noone plays it online :(
What that means is he will get to it when he is done smoking his Kratum.
I love what you guys are doing in regards to both the game, and the reforging of the community.
First time donating to a project. Best choice ever!
still think that skirmish should have a much higher priority than it have now, honestly I have no need to play this mod if it will only have online battles.
Creating a AI is not that ez as you think its the hardest part to make in a game and the harder the project will be the more change of failure
@@thomazogaming1940 I am fully aware of how hard is to create an AI especially for a game like this but still the amount of people that wants skirmish is just to great to be that much overlooked. By including skirmish to this mod/game would greatly increase its popularity
Count me out! I think this is just for investors for another unrelated game.
@@Renhorable why don't you join the team and work on it yourself, mate?
@@Baguette4726 I know I would if I had programming knowledge but there are no good compilers to even learn.
You guys are great! Can't wait to see the finished product! Keep up the amazing work!
I'm quite moved ball of this... A lot of love and we're here to support!
You guys are the heroes we don't deserve, please keep up your good work!
i love you, finally you have arrived /You our our new Gandalf
I'm actually only 15 right now and grew up playing these beautiful games for as long as I can remember (ahh the days when I would lose to easy ai). I'm so proud that there are people working to revive this dwindling community!
Thank you, guys! You're doing amazing work and these updates keep me excited!
Is the only priority at the moment multiplayer??? That's my least favourite part of any RTS game :/.
but the most ez thing to make you dont need to think in gameplay but more in development time
The scenes from LOTR and Hobbit are wonderful here. You choose great shots!
Great work guys, we really appreciate all the time and commitment the team is putting into the game. I haven’t played much BFME lately, but I am in love with the series and hope it doesn’t die out. Good luck!
Zero interest in online mode, offline single player is where this game shines. Every game in the world should have any form of offline single player, otherwise it will be destined to fail at one point due to loss of interest, bad communities, server issues, etc.
Then you make the offline mode , the skirmish , can you?
Yeah exactly, that's why MMOs are such a failure and GTA V had such lousy sales
@@rizeabogdan2803 I can, can you? I love morons like you. Now shut up, by your logic, I'm your better.
Tyvm , you guys are very amazing, youguys are carrying out very amazing project , thank you all for all your contributions
Skirmish first, then mp
Creating a AI is not that ez as you think its the hardest part to make in a game and the harder the project will be the more change of failure
@@thomazogaming1940 Shut up geeks. You know nothing of coding. You are so intolerant that you denied all those who want skirmish
Great Job Fellas!!!!
Ya, my 3 brothers and I love
4 v 4 comp stomp!!
Plz bring back skirmish!!!!
Back in Ranked mode I got to "6"
How do you Donate???????
Please make skirmish mode. I know a lot of people like myself, enjoy single player much more than online.
U are a miracle, i would never imagine fan as u!!! U are leaders and community gonna be BACK!😜
this mod is the last march of the Bfme players
You are my Hero to return my most played Game in my Childhood. Thank you for this dream come true.
Это игра моего детства, очень приятно то что выйдет новая часть!
не новая а ремастер старой)
What you said at 4.40 about making the community big stong and united fitted perfectly with the dwarfes doing the same thing in the background.
If you have skills in creating AI in video games, maybe you should contact the developers and offer to help. If a few people with those skills joined the team, they could probably work on the skirmish mode in parallel with the rest of the team, so it would not slow down the developement process as much.
This is sick, thank you and you're the best !
Not going to lie, HUGELY dissapointed by the Skirmish lack. I'm in my 30's now, and I find the MP community gets more and more toxic week by week.. so I tend to stick to SP stuff now. being forced to play MP with others to enjoy a game I once loved leaves a bad taste in my mouth :
Let's hope this community is better :)
Hence why multiplayer is overrated but most won't tell you that because they don't want to admit it, a lot of things in this world that require the participation of others are always at fault because of the nature of people (Lack of maturity is still largely present) particularity in the case of online play because of its element of anonymity which can be a gift and a curse to deal with...
That's why for me personally I just can't involved in that kind of atmosphere anymore as its simply too draining for me (Getting older doesn't help either lol) and all it does is make me think that i'm just wasting my time.
I agree completely. I manage to eliminate it from my own team by only grouping with other likeminded adults, but even then.. enemies can be toxic, poor sports etc..
most game systems, even flawed ones can be fun.. until the lowest common denominator gets a hold of it to abuse said mechanic etc :P basically, people suck. so Skirmish is a KEY component for myself.
Uh dude they are remaking this game and putting it out for free.
They even said that they never intended to not have skirmish mode in the final release.
You have no right to be "hugely disappointed"
Oh Leon, Don't be that guy, nobody likes that guy.
It is irrelevant if it is free or £50. I am entitled to an opinion. and in that, skirmish not being a 'backbone' is an issue for me. it kills not only single player, but assumingly without skirmish AI, it means no co op vs comps (comp stomps) either. another fun aspect of the game.
How do you think small places get their feedback? from peoples opinions, and given 43 others have liked it, I'm obviously not alone in my statement. so stop trying to white knight for a game group. because somebody had an opinion you disagree with. fuckwit.
Thank you so much for keep the light of BFME on. Youre the last hope.
disappointed about the lack of skirmish...never been bothered about multiplayer games. I guess I can stick to regular RotWK until you get round to the other aspects of the game.
I was very excited for this but lost my enthusiasm when i heard about skirmish not being included.
In my humble opinion, skirmish is the soul of this game. Playing it competitively online leads to frustration and you can't really take your time to enjoy the world you are playing in, the models and the features of each unique map.I see that many people have the same mindset and share this opinion here. I realize that creating AI from scratch in a new engine is extra work but hope you manage to include this important feature to the game which will help keep a healthy playerbase. Cheers!
Honestly love what you guys are doing, kinda grew up playing this. 🙂
Thank you for your hard work and sacrifice!
you are amazing guys !!!!
Thank you so much for doing this guys!
Choosing to focus on MP is a HUGE oversight. The largest playerbase is clearly in the skirmish category... as can be seen by the input and comments that you have received to date. So much of the time that could be spent on admiring the game, models, buildings and scenery is lost when playing MP. Skirmish enables us to truly absorb the time and effort put in by the devs, especially those in the artwork and model side of things. MP pulls the focus away from the lore and beauty of the game and puts it solely on defeating the opponent. The Tolkien universe is more about the setting and lore of Middle Earth than it is about the warfare. True, the game is called "BATTLE for ME", but the majority of Tolkien and LOTR fans are not here for the battle component. Sometimes it is just about playing an easy skirmish game and absorbing the sights and sounds of the game.
Why not both?
I definitely support having both in the game, as I would play both game modes. I never suggested having one over the other.
I actually only play skirmish so I can play at my speed without having other people rush me
I definitely agree with many of the comments, skirmish is definitely my most played game mode in BFME. Being able to match up against whichever opponent, make the match suitable for whatever mood your in; slaughtering your opponents easily or having a long and even fight.
Although I really enjoy online games, skirmish really brings something different to the table. It allows players of all skills to create a perfect match suited for their level of skill.
I am really sad to hear it is not a huge priority, but just the fact that you guys are reworking the game gets me ecstatic. Keep up the good work and thank you for bringing it back!
Keep up the good work guys. I cannot wait to see the results in action.
Bless you. 9 year old me is running laps in excitement
I am a big fan of your work and actually happy that this project is working and coming real. I would like to suggest you to use the books while improving and changing the game for example the spells of each hero and faction because some of the characters does not have their full abilities in the game. Also the mirkwood elves uses both sword/spear, shield and bow in the books and the movies but in the game they are only using bows. I believe if things like these are fixed and improved it will benefit both the game, community and the precious effort you’re putting into this work. Thank you for the update.
I just wanna say, thank you!
I am so excited for this. Thanks for all the updates.
This guys voice is so calming, I love it!
That menu looks awesome! Very nostalgic, I feel at home already :D.
What what..
No skirmish 😔😕🤨😒😳😳😳😳
create a multiplayer game, set up bots and start the match without anyone else joining. Bam. mind blown.
@@Holret :) Gotta do what you gotta do.
I, s’cuse my language, fucking love you guys. And this is all free!! Wth?? Salute to you all being involved in this project!!
God ı cannot wait you guys are just doing so much for comunity and ı dont know what can ı say.I dont know modding or game making but if there is something we can help we will be happy to do it. :D
I just want to say two things, One: Thank you to your team for working on this project, do take your time and focus on keeping yourselves motivated and happy, sure we might all want this as fast as possible, but I'd rather it be dealt with comfort on your guys end, what I've seen so far is incredible and I'm hyped to see what more will become available.
Two: I'm just wanting to throw in my own words regarding the whole skirmish side of things, I too am one of the people who personally would prefer single player content, Does that mean I don't want to play online? of course not I'd love too! however its not something I imagine I'd be able to jump onto quickly and feel comfortable with even though I have prior experience with BFME1 and 2 and I'll quickly explain why.
I can understand the fact the online must have been booming for these games when they were active. But I'm positive there were just as many people like myself who didn't actually have internet connections! (terrifying right? xD) So we only had skirmish to mess with when we finished with the campaign, I remember I even made a point to make a separate save for each 'big' battle in BFME1 both good and evil respectively for the pure sense of scale since we couldn't pick the famous maps like Helms Deep or Minas Tirith originally just to mess around in it when Skirmish wasn't enough. Now in this day and age I've tried jumping online (via gameranger and etc) and while its fun to play the games I missed out on, most people who still play online on these have basically never stopped and are leagues above myself, as such it discourages some people to venture out into online as let's face it, losing over and over isn't very fun when you know your overwhelmed, add on unhappy teammates in team-games who obviously don't enjoy having the 'useless' teammate which I don't blame them for xD. So it makes players like myself lean towards single player stuff mostly. Sure we can learn and improve but it takes time, patience and good keyboard skills (for hotkeys and etc) and when you only have one of them (mine being patience xD) its not going to work for us to jump onto competitive multiplayer. But we still wanna play so naturally we jump onto skirmish instead.
You've already addressed your putting in a rank system so weaker players like me could play together which is great! So for me personally I'm already happy at that but that's just my own little story and explanation I wanted to get across, sorry for length.
I 'm gonna contribute to the donation!! I swear french community love u!
I remember playing both BFME games when i was like 10-12.. I was so sad when the servers went down.. I've had high hopes for a new BFME game but it never happend. Now I enjoyed all aspects of the game far as I remember.. I loved multiplayer and getting destroyed, I loved playing the campaign and I loved playing skirmishes to test out new strategies to use. Nevertheless, I will be supporting this project 100%.
I wish I could help in someway but I don't really have any skills when it comes to making games in any form.. So I just donated a little sum and hope it helps.
Good luck with the project!
The fact that skirmish isnt a priority is a real chock actually..
Hello BFME:Reforged.
Regarding the skirmish priority. I get that you work constantly on getting this done, which is 100% greatly appreciated! However as many as us would like a skirmish part of the game, we are hoping this is done in the future at the very least once the online part is done.
Regarding the translation of the project. I'm from Denmark/Copenhagen and would LOVE to contribute in any way i can in the near future. I can code and design also when it comes to websites and databases. My education actually. Currently in ITU of Copenhagen developing Software Development. So if that is needed for some reason in the near future of 3 years, say the word (lol).
Hope that this will be a reality soon. Can't wait to test this out!
Regards a big fan!
i cant live without skirmish mode and a map editor
Me too, I spent more time in map editor than in MP mode 😂
yeah i think i only ever played MP like 3 times
RIP
All praise to you guys!
Well, seems that it won't be far when closed-beta come out for test. Looking forward to participate in it. Great work you guys👏👏👏
Thanks for making my dreams come true.
Thank you for your work, almost cried when I knew the game was being remade!!!
Thank you GOD for letting me play The Legendary Epic of Tolkien Middle Earth Games once again.!!!
your work is realy appreciated by us
you guys ROCK!!,, thanx for bringing this game to life again :)
looks awesome, I can't wait
Thank you for your hard work!
That voice tho...... O_O wow.
Please add skirmish to one of your priorities.That would be really cool!
So exciting for these new project
2018 modders > gamedevs.
Interesting. 🤔
You can say that about every game!!! they didn't have this technology at their time (they would have make the original game way better if it was at 2018)
That was always the case, if you pay attention to the modding scene. Even back in the times of Heroes of Might and Magic 3, the WoG mod (Wake of Gods) was still vastly superior than any other HOMM game. The same goes for countless other games.
@@MikeHellforger more complex sure. Not superior
Skirmish should be your priority, most of us couldn't play MP at that time. My personal experience with this game has always been skirmish. And I think that the mayority of people that played this game played it this way.
Amazing......Thank you very much
You're just doing one of my dreams come true
thank you for this amazing dream
Praise upon you! Hail da real MvP
Maybe you have already answered this question, but here it goes. Will re-creations of Helms deep, Minas Tirith, Isengard, etc, be availabe at some point?? I remember playing with my friends at this awesome siege maps at defence or attack and feeling so into Lotr movies. So nostalgic, it would be great to have that in Reforged. Keep up the great work!
I didn’t really appreciate being talked down to about only liking skirmish and campaign. But I am glad that you are eventually wanting to add skirmish.
thank you so much for this
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH TREMENDOOOOOO, I'M MADDD WAITING THISS!!!!!!😍😍😍😍
I truly admire this group’s efforts. It baffles me that BFME has survived so long, even after the loss of the License by EA. This game Family has great potential, and I love that this Reforged movement is taking more shape. I can’t wait to cast games on Reforged 😍
I feel that the decision to exclude RotWK content from Reforged may splinter the community over this project. However, you did mention allowing some of the more legendary mods to become developed possibly for Reforged. I do feel that BFME II does lack a large amount of content, and perhaps the inclusion of RotWK amenities or something similar (such as Angmar, or the MHH) would help broaden the scope and be less divisive of the community. Perhaps the option to switch the Expansion features off ingame? That would greatly facilitate the ease of players who play both patches and games, as it will not require a lot of extra work to switch game modes, make it less of a hassle and thus less divisive of the community.
Anyways, well done to all of you, and keep up the good work! You’re efforts will forever be appreciated and revered.
I love you guys
Thx
Itˋs just awesome you are doing this, would still love it though there would be no skirmish mod at the begin
I prefer a good MP than a bad skirmish, take your time and make what you want, this is already crazy that a group of people work on their free to bring back BFME. So whatever your going to do, I will be happy :D
Sry for bad English and hello from France !
I know that this is hard to answer, but... is there will be a Hero Creator, if you take BFME2 as mechanics example? Or will it be available later?
Good question
My experience with the hero creator is that it was extremely unbalanced in BFME2. If it is added I hope they don't have holes (like the custom archer, who was WAY overpowered.)
This game is gonna bring back some childhood memories lol.
I would love to see campaign like in Middle earth 1 but with additional heros like Haldir, Galadriel etc. Big armies. Remade and new maps. And of course gripping plot with new different missions which could make me feel that i'm like in the film. :D you gonna make this real!
Thank you for doing this
I've actually only played maybe 1 or 2 multiplayer games. I was young and not good enough for playing against players. I still play skirmish somewhat often.
Go slow and steady people will wait!!
P.S if ya want that they speeded up get em donation! People
duh. the people whining about skirmish were rude. You guys are great! Keep up the good work
I play bfme2 every day Thank you This is going to be very fun