@@jalalkm-x7z there is a WA but i would not recommend it. Ju spam Barrage if you get 4 charges back or if you can back charges with orb. This takes a lot of practice and time to master because every cooldown window you press your abilities based on RNG
I have another question dude my overall damage with arcane is 1.2 m and Stat prois is hase > mastery >crit>vers what's my problem is that normal? I have araka and spymater trinkets aswell
@@jalalkm-x7z have you compared your logs with other mages in the same mythic dungeons? I recommend that. I cannot tell you in what situations you are struggling - but i can tell you if (seriously) take 1 hours really comparing 95+ LOG runs with yours i´m sure you will find the root cause of your problems. Start with Casts/perminute , Clearcasting consumin, Splinterstorm Uptime - check when other Mages use their cooldowns at specific time markers and and and and and. :D
Thanks a lot! Playstyle changed a bit yes - you don´t cast random barrages anymore. Basically consuming Nether Precision buffs our Arcane Barrage now with the Talent Nether Attunement. So If you go straight forward in AOE you go: Missles + Blast + Blast +Barrage and keep that up. Main Target is to keep up your 4 Arcane Charges. You also press Barage if you have a 4Set Proc fA. There are some changes to min max the dmg when you have over 70 % mana tho. With this Patch they simplified the rotation alot. Some consider this as "boring" since they removed the RNG on Barrage.It´s kinda hard to explain it here in comments i recommend you check out Xaryu or Preheat guides - they already publiushed in depth guides for the new patch this week :) I will consider to make some guides by myself if more people are interested in my channel in the future :)
@@Schabl3n Thanks! I somehow understood the above 70% mana rotation, but it's quite hectic to react to the clearcast procs during AB cast etc lol. :D So in AOE just follow the AM-AB-AB-Barrage and orb on procs and barrage on Intuitions? Sounds simple, will see how simple in practice haha. 😝
@@eliasdsdf Yes exactly. I personally like the changes of removing the RNG - but i guess that´s up to personal preferences :) Just as always - practice on dummies and run m+ :D
@@eliasdsdf Have to apologize my friend - The rotation i mentioned before applies to ST. I just saw you asked for AOE: You actually wanna Surge + ToTM + Blast + Missles + Barrage - from there you want to barrage as much as possible on 4 charges.
I despise this dungeon as arcane, but its the only mage sped i enjoy nowadays. Touch of the magi explosion not reaching small adds because the hanging spooder bros' hitbox is wonky, incessant amounts of small adds, big dudes providing dmg reduction to things around it... Most of the time I cant get my cds to line up for when i need them.. the list goes on... Well done, keep playing, improving and making videos. Ss is so much more fun than sf imo.
If you play the route like this - on the first pull there are only small adds with very low HP. The priority target dies really fast in this clip - so there is not really a DMG output since we rely on one big mob to really pump. You as arcane shine on boss blasts. Ara-kara is by far the worst for arcane mages.
@@Shijota youre right, have kinda sunfury rotation in my muscle memory. Next run i will definitely implement new rotation and also include spells used!
I'm pulling about the same numbers (I actually got higher dps than my sunfury Sikran) on Sikran and Kyvesa as my 11.0.2 sunfury with my 11.0.5 SS. Same ilvl (622), heroic parses, parsed 92/93 on 11.0.2, I've parsed 95/94 on 11.0.5
Well, from title pic I thought mage really can do like 4.5 mln dps overall. Still It's like 1.4 kk dps vs. 1.7 kk from UnDK (under evoker). So I feel very bad about these numbers. Concerning SS rotation... It is too RNG. It happens so that I have only 2 procs of CC during surge. Sad... SF was much cooler (especially after they made meteor fall at once without delay). But these huge nerfs from blizz towards mage practically made me leave the game.
1.45m overrall with aug is actually a joke lol. Arcane mage is just not performing anymore after nerf, now only frost and fire work on dungeons. Spellslinger still viable for ST raid but thats all.
You are still playing the rotation as if you were playing sunfury. On AOE for SS, you newly dont even bother with arcane blast; only time when you wanna blast is once during TotM and if you need to refill charges and dont have orb.
@@antoniospoleto4332 That video is for a spellslinger showcase on a +10 for single target DPS. so there is not much more overall to do expecially for arcane mages in this dungeon :)
tnx for the video❤
bro how do I know when to barrage back to back
is there any WA for this?
@@jalalkm-x7z there is a WA but i would not recommend it. Ju spam Barrage if you get 4 charges back or if you can back charges with orb. This takes a lot of practice and time to master because every cooldown window you press your abilities based on RNG
I have another question dude
my overall damage with arcane is 1.2 m
and Stat prois is hase > mastery >crit>vers
what's my problem is that normal?
I have araka and spymater trinkets aswell
@@jalalkm-x7z have you compared your logs with other mages in the same mythic dungeons? I recommend that. I cannot tell you in what situations you are struggling - but i can tell you if (seriously) take 1 hours really comparing 95+ LOG runs with yours i´m sure you will find the root cause of your problems.
Start with Casts/perminute , Clearcasting consumin, Splinterstorm Uptime - check when other Mages use their cooldowns at specific time markers and and and and and. :D
Loved that !!! Could u next Time use the Addon to show your spells plz
Thank you! Of course i will add this for the next video!
Is this a WeakAura which shows your necessary buffs above your mana bar in the center?
@@pasovic_v2239 yes you can find my whole setup in the description!
Hi, can you show link to your spec?
There you go: www.wowhead.com/de/talent-calc/mage/arcane/spellslinger/DAPFZBlQQQUFRiEFVQCEQOVVVVARVFUJBUBUBAEFVVUCAQ
Hi can you your all addons writing?
Hi! You can find my whole addon package in the description!
@@Schabl3n Thanks, :D
In this dungeon when you use spell steal? it is worth it? good vid btw
@@Socotroken i actually forgot to reskill - never used it in this dungeon.
clean run my friend, is sunfury down bad or still viable in your opinion?
SS and SF are close in ST, but SS blows it away in AOE and is a lil better with Funneling.
@@flyingraijin5867 i think you can still play it but SS seems to perform better in Aoe Situations and 3 Target cleave rn.
Good stuff, still can't figure out the AOE rotation.. Same as ST but barrags more often? What's the condition to barrage?
Thanks a lot! Playstyle changed a bit yes - you don´t cast random barrages anymore. Basically consuming Nether Precision buffs our Arcane Barrage now with the Talent Nether Attunement. So If you go straight forward in AOE you go: Missles + Blast + Blast +Barrage and keep that up. Main Target is to keep up your 4 Arcane Charges. You also press Barage if you have a 4Set Proc fA. There are some changes to min max the dmg when you have over 70 % mana tho.
With this Patch they simplified the rotation alot. Some consider this as "boring" since they removed the RNG on Barrage.It´s kinda hard to explain it here in comments i recommend you check out Xaryu or Preheat guides - they already publiushed in depth guides for the new patch this week :) I will consider to make some guides by myself if more people are interested in my channel in the future :)
@@Schabl3n Thanks! I somehow understood the above 70% mana rotation, but it's quite hectic to react to the clearcast procs during AB cast etc lol. :D So in AOE just follow the AM-AB-AB-Barrage and orb on procs and barrage on Intuitions? Sounds simple, will see how simple in practice haha. 😝
@@eliasdsdf Yes exactly. I personally like the changes of removing the RNG - but i guess that´s up to personal preferences :)
Just as always - practice on dummies and run m+ :D
@@eliasdsdf Have to apologize my friend - The rotation i mentioned before applies to ST. I just saw you asked for AOE: You actually wanna Surge + ToTM + Blast + Missles + Barrage - from there you want to barrage as much as possible on 4 charges.
@@Schabl3n Check! Thanks for the answers and advice🙌
What is the addon that displays the arcane charges over the mobs head?
@@elliottsaunders5316 you can enable this setting in plater :)
I despise this dungeon as arcane, but its the only mage sped i enjoy nowadays. Touch of the magi explosion not reaching small adds because the hanging spooder bros' hitbox is wonky, incessant amounts of small adds, big dudes providing dmg reduction to things around it... Most of the time I cant get my cds to line up for when i need them.. the list goes on... Well done, keep playing, improving and making videos. Ss is so much more fun than sf imo.
@@veselinrankov7322 yes i agree. Ara kara is horrible for arcane. I personally like SS gameplay more than SF aswell.
What happened on the first pull did you get stunned or something
If you play the route like this - on the first pull there are only small adds with very low HP. The priority target dies really fast in this clip - so there is not really a DMG output since we rely on one big mob to really pump. You as arcane shine on boss blasts.
Ara-kara is by far the worst for arcane mages.
@@Schabl3n I really hate when prio target targets before you get a full burst off. Thank you sir
@@jayryan1956 Yes - also a bit tank reliant on some pulls to maxmize output. Youre welcome!
@@Schabl3n you put your magi on a small crawler instead of the big one. but yeah the whole first area is so ass on arcane.
Please make macro spider web and dps potion and bind hero it hurts my eyes
sorry for that my friend - Created the macro in the new video haha :)
may i ask why you arcanblase so much in aoe? Guide sais somtething like barrage spam all day.. but i dont like not being 4 AC too
@@Shijota youre right, have kinda sunfury rotation in my muscle memory. Next run i will definitely implement new rotation and also include spells used!
@@Schabl3n ah okay! i was like wait do i play it wrong? that looks different xD
@@Shijota nana all good xD
I like SS in mythics, raiding seems to fall off a bit
@@wgwrigel1 i don't raid alot but what i've seen from logs SS and SF go head on head in ST situations.
I'm pulling about the same numbers (I actually got higher dps than my sunfury Sikran) on Sikran and Kyvesa as my 11.0.2 sunfury with my 11.0.5 SS. Same ilvl (622), heroic parses, parsed 92/93 on 11.0.2, I've parsed 95/94 on 11.0.5
Well, from title pic I thought mage really can do like 4.5 mln dps overall. Still It's like 1.4 kk dps vs. 1.7 kk from UnDK (under evoker). So I feel very bad about these numbers.
Concerning SS rotation... It is too RNG. It happens so that I have only 2 procs of CC during surge. Sad... SF was much cooler (especially after they made meteor fall at once without delay). But these huge nerfs from blizz towards mage practically made me leave the game.
1.45m overrall with aug is actually a joke lol.
Arcane mage is just not performing anymore after nerf, now only frost and fire work on dungeons.
Spellslinger still viable for ST raid but thats all.
I mean, try to bring an arcane mage for a 13+ and its impossible to time it. The dps is just not enough
If you look and the leaderboard - arcane mages even clear +14 and +15 keys :)
You are still playing the rotation as if you were playing sunfury. On AOE for SS, you newly dont even bother with arcane blast; only time when you wanna blast is once during TotM and if you need to refill charges and dont have orb.
And it seems like your ST rotation isnt great either. Check wowhead, it has changed
yes you are right - muscle memory still on Sunfury spec - for AOE you definitely wanna barrage more. For ST it´s not really that bad.
Play with russian...
mage is a shit
1.45 mil overall WITH augment ? hahahah pathetically bad
@@Seqqsy if you think so :)
@@Schabl3n Definitely not "insane" as the title says
@@antoniospoleto4332 That video is for a spellslinger showcase on a +10 for single target DPS. so there is not much more overall to do expecially for arcane mages in this dungeon :)
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