I can't watch Wilson, it is like watching a robot the way he walks in to the shot. Trump on the other hand is a snooker maverick. I would definitely pay good money to watch him. 👌🏻
All snooker pros look like robots now, even Ronnie. Calm down snowflakes. All professional sports have been turned more and more robotic as the skill levels have gone up. If we want pro sports to be more chill and fun to watch again, maybe we need to have extra tournaments with no prize money where drinking is mandatory or something.
Kyren’s turning into David Brent. He’s desperate for attention, his post match interview after losing the Masters final was cringeworthy. As was his walk on clapping at the German Masters. I felt cringed for him.
I love the GOAT question. It depends if you go on how good they were at their best or what they achieved. Hendry achieved more than anybody except for Ronnie, but the standard was so far lower back then. That isn't his fault and had the opposition been as good as it is now, Hendry quite possibly would still be winning Majors, but he wouldn't be dominating, The days of anybody dominating are gone imho. Forgetting achievement and just going by how good they all are/were at their very best. you have to have Ronnie as Number 1. Then it's a 'pick em' for me between John Higgins, Mark Williams, Mark Selby, Stephen Hendry and Judd Trump.
@@mikescorpio13 Crazy talk. Maybe you should go back and watch them a bit more. Judd Trump and Neil Robertson have both had more centuries in 1 season than Ray Reardon had in his 34 year career. People like Ricky Waldon, Joe Perry, David Gilbert and Ryan Day have more centuries than Steve Davis, despite playing for many less years. The standard compared to the 70s, 80s, 90s, is Apples and Pears. It's the same as when people say Eric Bristow is one of the best darts players of all time, when his typical average was that of a current county player.
@@Greggieboy76 how do you think those great players would have played with todays equipment..... they were doing miracles with branches and weird balls. Are you really assuming that becasue Walden,Perry,Gilbert or Day have more centuries than Steve Davis that they would be better than him.... that is some crazy delusional talk. The standard have always been the same with 2-3 guys playing above the average 1 dominating and the rest.Clowns like Ali Carter claiming it was a weaker era or you in this case are out of your mind.
@ The answer is, we cannot possibly know how good they would be today,! All we do know is that their standard of play was far inferior to today, regardless of all of the variables.
People need to realise how rare a sight O'Sullivan , Higgins and Williams are . They are Nadal Federer and Djokovic and once they go, yes there are exciting players but it's levels down. Trump is exciting and Wilson is okay when he plays faster. You have other attacking players but the personalities are not there. We just can't expect Wilson or anyone else to be like the greats ,because it is very rare to do what the class of 92 did and are still doing.
Wilson's need for ego-stroke is mega cringe and the repeated reminding of all of us that he is reigning world champion is nauseating, at best. Yes Kyren, we know, we know...but real champions don't show their insecurities through obvious fishing for recognition. Ride the wave of your current (temporary?) status but don't rub everyone's noses in it every time you open your increasingly busy pie-hole.
But Wilson isn't a flashy player, very watchful, methodical, not boring, not really box office. Cracking the odd joke, acting up on entrance doesn't really do much for me.
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser" -- That's a prattish thing to say. A good loser isn't someone who "enjoys" losing; they're someone who accepts that everyone gets beaten some of the time and acknowledges that simple reality with grace and good manners. I've come to generally respect Hendry since he retired, but comments like that reveal to me why he had such a hard time adjusting to his game declining.
Spot on sir 👏. He comes out with some crap at times. Williams is a great example of a good loser. One of the best players ever and can still embarrass Hendry on the table.
I think some of the hate for Kyren is a bit harsh. He's a nice guy and he has had to work hard at his technique which is probably why he is more methodical with it. He's not a natural talent like Ronnie he has had to put the hours in to get anywhere close. It may also be why he feels like he is owed a bit more TV table time etc as he has had to slog to get here. I feel the player's personality is an issue with most snooker players if not all. As spectators we don't get a chance to see their personality outside of matches. I really think the powers at be need to consider something like a Big Break TV show where we can see some fun snooker and bring the players out of their shell a bit.
Wison is a bit of a muppet. Crying like a baby at the Masters. Never shuts up abput his kids. Hes a boring player to watch. Hes actually turning me off snooker.
Don't mind him on the table but yes he's turning into Shaun Murphy in that he loves the sound of his own voice. Great when you win but until the Masters, Murphy was - and still is - insufferable.
For Murphy to be considered the best currently I think he has to won the WSC, if he plays like the masters why not. Kyren can improve and he will, hes getting use to play finals and big matches, so he could win a lot,
Kyren is an expert in the game no question however, it seems robotic and for some reason he doesn't have a likeable persona. The hand clapping was Ego maniac territory lol
Kyren only won the World Championship cause he played Jack Jones where are if he played one of the big guns he wouldn’t have won. He’s also a very bad loser
Kyren won the world championship because he was the best player over the 17 days end of story, Also those so called big guns you mentioned all got beat so it's not his fault who he played in the draw. The excuses you and other people try and make when someone they don't particularly like wins are so dumb.
He has proved since the World Championship that winning it was no fluke. He is a very accomplished player these days, and he can beat any of his top ranked rivals.
I get that the loss should hurt but should be classy in defeat. He lacked any class in that interview after the masters final. Let's be honest, his snooker isn't as exiting as some of the other top players on tour.
No one is asking Kyren to enjoy losing, he hates it like anyone else, but the professional, grown up thing to do is lose graciously in public and not have a temper tantrum like a small child. Shaun played brilliantly all week, was the best player in the tournament and fully deserved to be Masters champion, and Wilson's job as a professional sportsman was to acknowledge that when interviewed. I'm not a fan but Kyren is a great player and he proved it in the German Masters but sulking when you lose is not a great look.
Never liked Wilson. Judd isn't well-spoken or flamboyant in interviews but my God does he let his cue do the talking. And I've always loved that. Nothing about Wilson as a player excites me... And then you get that Masters post-match interview... made me dislike him even more. As someone already pointed out, you can hate losing and still be gracious in defeat when interviewed, so Stephen's point made no sense tbh.
@andymerrett LOL hey Andy 👋 where have you been, haven't seen you since all that religious hysteria nonsense on the thread. I kept typing"free Andy Merrett." but you never came back. Missed you on the thread.
Yeah Kyren showing true background colours and have to accept he's a bit feral as they say 😂, gone off him after old man comments and bad loser against Murphy in the Masters 2025...
kyren is only had good run in one season time will tell .trump has been man to beat for a few years now and still is really if on form.but there is no clear one at moment mark alan beat trump last three times.neil is as good as these on form too.
@@ShashumanViraja Henry domanate for whole nineties not just a good season like kyren has had it takes more than that to be one of the all time greats.
Kyren's a solid player, but a little robotic. Very few players could ever reach the heights of Ronnie, Stephen or Steve though. I think probably Wu Yiza, He Guoqiang or Si Jiahui may do soon. Wilson's walk-on in Germany was rude, I thought.
I disagree with Stephen on good losers. Being a sore loser is shameful. Be a man, not a cry baby. Chin up, chest out, and come back. emember his dad bollocked him once for being a moper.
Wilson (囧) seems a nice guy but comes across insecure. He puts himself in positions he "feels" he should be. Like when he said snooker was in safe hands after the class of 92 retire with him and Judd lol, two totally different people in terms of achievements and play style.
No one is as boring and slow to watch than mark allen i actually cant stand him and refuse to watch him now so slow and boring need a pillow to watch him 🥱🙄😴😴😴😴
More like he's a very hard to watch snooker player, mark Selby's snooker is brilliant to watch and he sure plays a lot of dull and boring shots sometimes, he just has to stop trying to be what he isn't and just get on with his game, which he's been failing to do since becoming world champion, he simply just can't entertain crowds the way Ronnie and Judd can
@kevinprior Nonsense, Nothing to do with ' he aint Ronnie" All to do with Kyren calling Murphy and old man needing the Masters title than him. We get it you dislike ROS but don't make everything sound like it is about Ronnie.. That is pathetic and CHILDISH!
FYI. All the hate for Kyren comes from mostly Judd fans, the worst fans on the internet. They don't like Kyren because Kyren has Judd number. He leads Judd 4-1 in final. . And whitewashed Judd yesterday. LV were full of Judd fans yesterday insulting Kyren is raw filth. Shameless!
Hes robotic ,boring to watch in his little trumpton shoes and his pre shot routine ....he plays aggressive ,hes not necessarily slow and its still not enough ....he has an incredibly dislikeable personality somehow .....snooker needs more players like Brecel who make the game exciting and leave you gobsmacked with some of the shots he pulls off
Wilson is very mediocre compared to the likes of the multiple triple crown winners so a one-season wonder at best 🥱…oh n he’s CRINGE a/f btw which doesn’t help 😂
@@69elvisrocksyet the titles he won have nothing in weight compared to what Judd won this season, UK championship, Shanghai masters and saudi event are some of the biggest events held this season so far
I can't watch Wilson, it is like watching a robot the way he walks in to the shot. Trump on the other hand is a snooker maverick. I would definitely pay good money to watch him. 👌🏻
This. A millions times this. It's so so hard to watch.
Indeed, a waddling robot
All snooker pros look like robots now, even Ronnie. Calm down snowflakes. All professional sports have been turned more and more robotic as the skill levels have gone up. If we want pro sports to be more chill and fun to watch again, maybe we need to have extra tournaments with no prize money where drinking is mandatory or something.
@@jonathanhockey9943 🤣
@@OrdinProds Rubbish. It's because natural talent skill level has gone down. Ronnie is knocking 50 years of age, Williams too.
Kyren’s turning into David Brent. He’s desperate for attention, his post match interview after losing the Masters final was cringeworthy. As was his walk on clapping at the German Masters. I felt cringed for him.
'Cry'rens brother is just like him. Both of them are cringy. Runs in the family, the more people don't tune in when he's playing the better.
@@JimmyGuitarist David Brent.. love it 🤣👏
You don't have to "enjoy losing" to act with some dignity (in public at least) when you lose.
I love the GOAT question. It depends if you go on how good they were at their best or what they achieved. Hendry achieved more than anybody except for Ronnie, but the standard was so far lower back then. That isn't his fault and had the opposition been as good as it is now, Hendry quite possibly would still be winning Majors, but he wouldn't be dominating, The days of anybody dominating are gone imho. Forgetting achievement and just going by how good they all are/were at their very best. you have to have Ronnie as Number 1. Then it's a 'pick em' for me between John Higgins, Mark Williams, Mark Selby, Stephen Hendry and Judd Trump.
Alex Higgins,Ray Reardon,Steve Davis would still have dominate any other of these modern player...
@@mikescorpio13 Crazy talk. Maybe you should go back and watch them a bit more. Judd Trump and Neil Robertson have both had more centuries in 1 season than Ray Reardon had in his 34 year career. People like Ricky Waldon, Joe Perry, David Gilbert and Ryan Day have more centuries than Steve Davis, despite playing for many less years. The standard compared to the 70s, 80s, 90s, is Apples and Pears. It's the same as when people say Eric Bristow is one of the best darts players of all time, when his typical average was that of a current county player.
@@Greggieboy76 how do you think those great players would have played with todays equipment..... they were doing miracles with branches and weird balls.
Are you really assuming that becasue Walden,Perry,Gilbert or Day have more centuries than Steve Davis that they would be better than him.... that is some crazy delusional talk.
The standard have always been the same with 2-3 guys playing above the average 1 dominating and the rest.Clowns like Ali Carter claiming it was a weaker era or you in this case are out of your mind.
@ The answer is, we cannot possibly know how good they would be today,! All we do know is that their standard of play was far inferior to today, regardless of all of the variables.
@@Greggieboy76 those that rose above the rest would do it in any era....
Was it not Wilson not so long ago whinging that he wasn't on the show table enough?
I’m sorry Wilson is a nice fella. But has dull as dish water. I can not watch him
@Wah-m9v Wow you are really upset Kyren just whitewashed Judd. Stop it mate. Its just embarrassing to deflect like this. Its just a GAME OF SNOOKER!
Totally agree he isnt interesting. But he isnt there to entertain me he is there to win
@@jamesadcock5235 That's a fair point but to be considered a great at any sport, you have to be entertaining and a winner.
Maybe he needs a different haircut?
He plays good snooker
Snooker needs rivalries! Like Higgins vs Ronnie or Ronnie vs Selby!
Davis Higgins
@@garethparr9482 Hendry White!
@ forgot that 1 👍
I want a one hand snooker competition !
@@DaMaster1983 Willo would smash that!
Give it a rest 😅
People need to realise how rare a sight O'Sullivan , Higgins and Williams are . They are Nadal Federer and Djokovic and once they go, yes there are exciting players but it's levels down.
Trump is exciting and Wilson is okay when he plays faster. You have other attacking players but the personalities are not there. We just can't expect Wilson or anyone else to be like the greats ,because it is very rare to do what the class of 92 did and are still doing.
class of 1992 starting to slip down the rankings making wilson look better
Very rare.
@@xplaybwoix Spot on sir 👏
You're right Stephen....Kyren's new hair cut looks daft!! Much better when it was spikey with highlights.
Wilson's need for ego-stroke is mega cringe and the repeated reminding of all of us that he is reigning world champion is nauseating, at best. Yes Kyren, we know, we know...but real champions don't show their insecurities through obvious fishing for recognition. Ride the wave of your current (temporary?) status but don't rub everyone's noses in it every time you open your increasingly busy pie-hole.
@@williambremner9022 🤣
But Wilson isn't a flashy player, very watchful, methodical, not boring, not really box office. Cracking the odd joke, acting up on entrance doesn't really do much for me.
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser" -- That's a prattish thing to say. A good loser isn't someone who "enjoys" losing; they're someone who accepts that everyone gets beaten some of the time and acknowledges that simple reality with grace and good manners.
I've come to generally respect Hendry since he retired, but comments like that reveal to me why he had such a hard time adjusting to his game declining.
Spot on sir 👏. He comes out with some crap at times. Williams is a great example of a good loser. One of the best players ever and can still embarrass Hendry on the table.
Mr melted head plays snooker like a thunderbird puppet !
@@garyspence8383 😂😂😂
He reminds me of Sloth from the Goonies 😂😂😂
Trump does it season in season out.
I think some of the hate for Kyren is a bit harsh. He's a nice guy and he has had to work hard at his technique which is probably why he is more methodical with it. He's not a natural talent like Ronnie he has had to put the hours in to get anywhere close. It may also be why he feels like he is owed a bit more TV table time etc as he has had to slog to get here.
I feel the player's personality is an issue with most snooker players if not all. As spectators we don't get a chance to see their personality outside of matches. I really think the powers at be need to consider something like a Big Break TV show where we can see some fun snooker and bring the players out of their shell a bit.
I actually love that he is engaging with the crowd ..
Wison is a bit of a muppet. Crying like a baby at the Masters. Never shuts up abput his kids. Hes a boring player to watch. Hes actually turning me off snooker.
Oh boo-hoo for you.
Then stop watching. Kyren is a class player, and a class person.
@seancptjackthornton4388 i have stopped watching any game that he plays in. Thanks for the heads up though 👍
LMAO
Don't mind him on the table but yes he's turning into Shaun Murphy in that he loves the sound of his own voice. Great when you win but until the Masters, Murphy was - and still is - insufferable.
For Murphy to be considered the best currently I think he has to won the WSC, if he plays like the masters why not. Kyren can improve and he will, hes getting use to play finals and big matches, so he could win a lot,
He won the worst world final in the history of snooker.
I’d rather watch paint dry than watching Wilson. Boring, robotic cue action… Hell no!!
@ whatever makes you sleep better
Cue action is supposed to be robotic
Agree completely like a boring robot....dull dull dull
You show us a lot better then and win three times in one season.
@DavidMander-rs4uk clearly a great snooker player...I just can't abide watching him, utterly boring for me I'm afraid.
Kyren is an expert in the game no question however, it seems robotic and for some reason he doesn't have a likeable persona. The hand clapping was Ego maniac territory lol
It was a bit cringe, but it's not like he did an Elon Musk, throwing himself around like a nutcase and launching nazi salutes over and over.
Kyren only won the World Championship cause he played Jack Jones where are if he played one of the big guns he wouldn’t have won. He’s also a very bad loser
he's been riding that fluke for a while now, wish he'd go away
Oooh look at you being all controversial and edgy... 🤣🤡
Kyren won the world championship because he was the best player over the 17 days end of story, Also those so called big guns you mentioned all got beat so it's not his fault who he played in the draw. The excuses you and other people try and make when someone they don't particularly like wins are so dumb.
He has proved since the World Championship that winning it was no fluke. He is a very accomplished player these days, and he can beat any of his top ranked rivals.
a trip to the barbers would be a good idea mate..
Kyron is like one of those boys that can’t wait to be an old man.
I get that the loss should hurt but should be classy in defeat. He lacked any class in that interview after the masters final. Let's be honest, his snooker isn't as exiting as some of the other top players on tour.
I'm not a Wilson fan, he's hard to like
Why is Mark talking into a space heater?
No one is asking Kyren to enjoy losing, he hates it like anyone else, but the professional, grown up thing to do is lose graciously in public and not have a temper tantrum like a small child. Shaun played brilliantly all week, was the best player in the tournament and fully deserved to be Masters champion, and Wilson's job as a professional sportsman was to acknowledge that when interviewed. I'm not a fan but Kyren is a great player and he proved it in the German Masters but sulking when you lose is not a great look.
Gossip about Crylison . OMG sign me up... yes finally Mr. Hendry bring to light this Infant man Wilson.
We must all be the same. Individuality no longer tolerated. Conformity is all. If not. You will be judged accordingly. That is all.
Never liked Wilson.
Judd isn't well-spoken or flamboyant in interviews but my God does he let his cue do the talking. And I've always loved that.
Nothing about Wilson as a player excites me... And then you get that Masters post-match interview... made me dislike him even more.
As someone already pointed out, you can hate losing and still be gracious in defeat when interviewed, so Stephen's point made no sense tbh.
To back up being a sports personality, it would be incredibly useful to have a personality.
Wow, because you're amazing aren't you?
@andymerrett LOL hello Andy. Where you been? Haven't seen you on chat since the weird Randy religion guy bombed the space.
@andymerrett LOL hey Andy 👋 where have you been, haven't seen you since all that religious hysteria nonsense on the thread. I kept typing"free Andy Merrett." but you never came back. Missed you on the thread.
He’s Steve Davies reincarnated - I’m happy for him, but after being treated too watching Ronny for so long it’s hard to watch that guy
Kyren is a right wally. Utter cringe
Yeah Kyren showing true background colours and have to accept he's a bit feral as they say 😂, gone off him after old man comments and bad loser against Murphy in the Masters 2025...
Is the full stream on RUclips?
kyren is only had good run in one season time will tell .trump has been man to beat for a few years now and still is really if on form.but there is no clear one at moment mark alan beat trump last three times.neil is as good as these on form too.
Ronnie on form better than all you mentioned along with the great Hendry
These two are in a different league!
@@ShashumanViraja i agree ronnie and hendry are best two ever.
@@ShashumanViraja but ronnies form has dropped now a fair bit .he can be good but won nothing since last masters over year now
@@ShashumanViraja Henry domanate for whole nineties not just a good season like kyren has had it takes more than that to be one of the all time greats.
Judd trumps arrogance makes it hard to want him to win though he’s a brilliant player
Kyren's a solid player, but a little robotic. Very few players could ever reach the heights of Ronnie, Stephen or Steve though. I think probably Wu Yiza, He Guoqiang or Si Jiahui may do soon. Wilson's walk-on in Germany was rude, I thought.
But people said Steve (I assume you mean Davis) was dull and boring. Doesn't take away from his achievements though eh?
@@andymerrett People forget that Steve Davis took the game to a new level, even if he wasn't exciting to watch.
I disagree with Stephen on good losers. Being a sore loser is shameful. Be a man, not a cry baby. Chin up, chest out, and come back. emember his dad bollocked him once for being a moper.
Wilson (囧) seems a nice guy but comes across insecure. He puts himself in positions he "feels" he should be. Like when he said snooker was in safe hands after the class of 92 retire with him and Judd lol, two totally different people in terms of achievements and play style.
No one is as boring and slow to watch than mark allen i actually cant stand him and refuse to watch him now so slow and boring need a pillow to watch him 🥱🙄😴😴😴😴
nah. class of 1992 are slipping making him look good .
Hope the Chinese start to win things cant do with another 20 years of Trump and Wilson.....
Wilson has passed a few tests, but still isn't as good as he thinks he is.
Kyren is fast becoming my least favourite player especially following what he did.
Sorry but wilson like watching paint dry.boring
He has to do the showman thing off the table as can’t do it on. Boring! 😴
The hate K Wilson is undeserved. He's a good bloke and deserved to win at the Crucible. But people don't like it cos he aint Ronnie. Pathetic!
More like he's a very hard to watch snooker player, mark Selby's snooker is brilliant to watch and he sure plays a lot of dull and boring shots sometimes, he just has to stop trying to be what he isn't and just get on with his game, which he's been failing to do since becoming world champion, he simply just can't entertain crowds the way Ronnie and Judd can
@kevinprior
Nonsense, Nothing to do with ' he aint Ronnie" All to do with Kyren calling Murphy and old man needing the Masters title than him. We get it you dislike ROS but don't make everything sound like it is about Ronnie.. That is pathetic and CHILDISH!
FYI. All the hate for Kyren comes from mostly Judd fans, the worst fans on the internet. They don't like Kyren because Kyren has Judd number. He leads Judd 4-1 in final. . And whitewashed Judd yesterday. LV were full of Judd fans yesterday insulting Kyren is raw filth. Shameless!
he hasnt got better others have got worse. robertson, brecel class of 92 all slipping
Hes robotic ,boring to watch in his little trumpton shoes and his pre shot routine ....he plays aggressive ,hes not necessarily slow and its still not enough ....he has an incredibly dislikeable personality somehow .....snooker needs more players like Brecel who make the game exciting and leave you gobsmacked with some of the shots he pulls off
When did Mark Watson become an 'expert'? Stick to the jokes, and scratch yourself OFF camera.
Wilson is very mediocre compared to the likes of the multiple triple crown winners so a one-season wonder at best 🥱…oh n he’s CRINGE a/f btw which doesn’t help 😂
rubbish hes the best in the world at the moment buddy hes easily beaten Trump 3 times now.
@@69elvisrocks Kyren is so great he leads Judd 4-1 in finals
@@69elvisrocksyet the titles he won have nothing in weight compared to what Judd won this season, UK championship, Shanghai masters and saudi event are some of the biggest events held this season so far
Ronnie O'Sullivan 🐐♥♥Stephen Hendry ♥♥
Wilson’s a great player . Tough on the ears though .
I think Kyren is the GOAT.
LoL
He unbearably does my crust in, he also drones when interviewed, incredibly dull bloke.
I think Trump is boring
most boring to watch next to Selby
@@kevinprior3549 don't be stupid
Trump is as dull as a dish cloth.
But he is Hong 🇭🇰 Kong's best player after Marco Fu old Trumpy 😉