Make a new entrance with regulations and fees. Give left over profits from fees collected to home owners near the old entrance to make peace and compensation.
They could even keep it in the same place, just charge admission to pay for security. Unless there is money being made, the local government is unlikely to make up the funds that will be needed for adequate security to keep out trespassers (I mean, if they’re not doing it now, why would they do it in the future after they’ve already wasted so much money on demolition?) and the problem will keep getting worse even if they remove the stairs.
This has been dealt with at other popular sites by using fees, timed permits, & regulations. Repairing the stairs earlier & now proposing to tear them down makes no sense.
The first time i went there, we got lost. there is an acess that fairly close to h3. i think if they made a road going down towards that abandoned hospital below the overpass, they could use that area for parking. add a special duty cop that gets shuffled around, put up a fee and im sure people would be glad to pay. The city can generate money from there. $20-30 per person on a beautiful hike is worth it in my opinion. Oh and have them sign a waiver.
The stairs aren't dangerous, but are in need of repair and maintenance. Make it a federal park with paid access, ideally from the Moanalua Valley side, which is also in need of upkeep.
Wow! I guess I was one the few lucky ones when limited access for the public was set up with the military that owned the stairs at the time. I hiked the stairs way back in 1981 when first visiting Hawaii. I had some friends that I met on a group backing trip in the Sierras in Calif. They lived in Honolulu and were members of the local chapter of the Sierra Club. Active hikers in a club at UH, so they knew all the hiking spots. Back then just the locals knew of this trail and it was virtually unknown to tourists. Still the morning we went after signing a waiver at trail start, I recall seeing only about a dozen hikers on the trail mid-week. Not much erosion like today with the overuse and heavy tourism. Even after 40 years I can remember hiking this strenuous but spectacular trail. Wet and misty in some parts but the conditions always cleared for those amazing views. Sorry that woman resident is having such a hard time. There were some signs posted back in 1981 regarding trespassing and private resident property, but people were still law abiding and respectful then. Pono. The stairs were virtually unknown to tourists back then. Nowadays with social media, these places and how to access them legally and illegally can get such exposure. The Hollywood sign has always been an icon for L.A. and tourists have always wanted closer access to it. After the movie LA LA LAND, parking and trespassing by tourists to get illegal access or get as close to the sign as possible became a huge problem for residents living in proximity to it.
Like you, I did this hike back in 1980 or 1981 when I was a student at UH. I can tell that my memories of that spectacular hike are just as vivid as yours are. It was no problem to check in with the Coast Guard and sign a waiver before doing the hike, and they had a small parking lot that precluded the need to park on the nearby streets. It's shameful that over time (after the Coast Guard no longer had responsibility for the trail) hikers no longer have consideration for the homeowners in the neighborhood, even to the point of trespassing and assaulting this woman and others who are looking to protect their property. I would love to see the stairs maintained and accessible, but I appreciate the needs of the community for respect and safety. We now live in a world where "my rights" are considered inviolate at the expense of the rights of everyone else. It's sad to think that the Haiku stairs are little more than an attractive nuisance now because the people who believe they have a God-given right to use the trail do not respect anyone else's rights.
I don't believe anyone's attacked her on her children. They just want it for themselves. That's why she built her home right there in front of the entrance.
Personally, I kind of doubt it, but even if she did, they are invading her property. Not much different from them invading her home. I think you'd agree that that's not cool, and she should be able to protect her property by force if necessary.
Keep in mind, just because a police report may not have been filed, that doesn't mean an assault didn't happen. Also, it may have only been written up as a trespass. That's bad enough. They have a right to the privacy and security of their property. I'm not a property owner, but if I spent as much as it costs to own a home and land in Hawaii, I know I wouldn't want random people tramping through it.
The law makers talking about how dangerous the stairs are have never even seen them. They are stable and safe. Only part sketch is from the railing falling over them. Olomana is more dangerous and still legal
Daylenn “Moke” Pua, an 18-year-old hiker went missing the morning of February 27, 2015, after setting out to hike Haiku Stairs, one of Hawaii's most ...
Take it down. The tourist has ruined it for us Kanaka. We have never seen this much rude, inconsiderate, and law breakers jack up something that has been a part of our childhood. Like always, I've seen nothing but tourists ruin my home since we moved.
So how can I come and hike the stairs without bothering the locals? I’m up for any ideas but also I’m coming for the stairs just like people come to my beach here in Cali.
Our legislators’ true colors are showing. Tourist over residents, this was not an issue when this site was operating under the watchful eye of the military. Not sure what Sen. Schatz is up to, the decades old stairway is a hazard. And why is he even in the mix? One could assume side bars are at play behind closed doors. If the state wishes to continue to make money via the visitor industry from this life-threatening hazard, at least have the decency to address those that have to live with the issue for the rest of their lives. Quote: "The stairs in place currently are still too dangerous to hike and need to come down" minute 2:35 🦅
Nobody has died there and rescues are extremely rare. One guy died of a heart attack on trail, has nothing to do with the trail. The stairs are super safe and we’re rebuilt less than 20 years ago.
YES I DO. But I'll make it known to others on how you feel about native hawaiians. And it is SACRED disrespect isn't good. But what do you care your not knowledgeable about our culture right. Nor do you care.
@xxuncexx the whole point is to be respectful of the residents of that area. If not, no matter what you say, it's still breaking the LAW, and people can pay the price for it. But maybe if people respect the residents, like asking. It doesn't hurt to try and ask. Mahalo ❤️
She yells the first time she sees you..curses and all so forget that witch and as far as stealing that is the entire island. You chose to live next to it anyways.
In the first place, it wasn't meant for tourists. It was for the military. So I hope she goes to Home Depot and starts securing her home. She needs barb wire, flood lights, warning signs, and most of all, her CCW protection. There's always a way to protect your home and family.
Make a new entrance with regulations and fees. Give left over profits from fees collected to home owners near the old entrance to make peace and compensation.
shoot I'll pay to go up.
these 'neighbors' are a joke. Check records. No record of "assults" on anyone. You live next to an amazing historical hike. Grow up or move.
Karen wants sympathy
They are rich scum that needs their house burned down, they chose that spot and are trying to be fascists.
Easy to talk when you don’t live where the lady does. obviously you are an inconsiderate and entitled assh*le
There should be some form of managed access preferably from a different entrance.
They could even keep it in the same place, just charge admission to pay for security. Unless there is money being made, the local government is unlikely to make up the funds that will be needed for adequate security to keep out trespassers (I mean, if they’re not doing it now, why would they do it in the future after they’ve already wasted so much money on demolition?) and the problem will keep getting worse even if they remove the stairs.
This has been dealt with at other popular sites by using fees, timed permits, & regulations. Repairing the stairs earlier & now proposing to tear them down makes no sense.
The first time i went there, we got lost. there is an acess that fairly close to h3. i think if they made a road going down towards that abandoned hospital below the overpass, they could use that area for parking. add a special duty cop that gets shuffled around, put up a fee and im sure people would be glad to pay. The city can generate money from there. $20-30 per person on a beautiful hike is worth it in my opinion. Oh and have them sign a waiver.
Theres no abandoned hospital
@@alexgray8804 Theres a building there, i just assumed its a hospital cause of all the beds all over. so whatever that building is
They're generating money alright!! From those fines!!! Lmao
Were those house built in 1942? If I knew people hike there I wouldn’t buy a home there. However, the state should make another entrance point.
I wish, I could hike one day.
Good job Brian Schatz!
The stairs aren't dangerous, but are in need of repair and maintenance. Make it a federal park with paid access, ideally from the Moanalua Valley side, which is also in need of upkeep.
What a Karen
Where do these people park their cars before climbing the stairs? Asking for a friend.
Uber
Wow! I guess I was one the few lucky ones when limited access for the public was set up with the military that owned the stairs at the time. I hiked the stairs way back in 1981 when first visiting Hawaii. I had some friends that I met on a group backing trip in the Sierras in Calif. They lived in Honolulu and were members of the local chapter of the Sierra Club. Active hikers in a club at UH, so they knew all the hiking spots. Back then just the locals knew of this trail and it was virtually unknown to tourists. Still the morning we went after signing a waiver at trail start, I recall seeing only about a dozen hikers on the trail mid-week. Not much erosion like today with the overuse and heavy tourism. Even after 40 years I can remember hiking this strenuous but spectacular trail. Wet and misty in some parts but the conditions always cleared for those amazing views. Sorry that woman resident is having such a hard time. There were some signs posted back in 1981 regarding trespassing and private resident property, but people were still law abiding and respectful then. Pono. The stairs were virtually unknown to tourists back then. Nowadays with social media, these places and how to access them legally and illegally can get such exposure. The Hollywood sign has always been an icon for L.A. and tourists have always wanted closer access to it. After the movie LA LA LAND, parking and trespassing by tourists to get illegal access or get as close to the sign as possible became a huge problem for residents living in proximity to it.
Like you, I did this hike back in 1980 or 1981 when I was a student at UH. I can tell that my memories of that spectacular hike are just as vivid as yours are. It was no problem to check in with the Coast Guard and sign a waiver before doing the hike, and they had a small parking lot that precluded the need to park on the nearby streets. It's shameful that over time (after the Coast Guard no longer had responsibility for the trail) hikers no longer have consideration for the homeowners in the neighborhood, even to the point of trespassing and assaulting this woman and others who are looking to protect their property. I would love to see the stairs maintained and accessible, but I appreciate the needs of the community for respect and safety. We now live in a world where "my rights" are considered inviolate at the expense of the rights of everyone else. It's sad to think that the Haiku stairs are little more than an attractive nuisance now because the people who believe they have a God-given right to use the trail do not respect anyone else's rights.
I don't believe anyone's attacked her on her children. They just want it for themselves. That's why she built her home right there in front of the entrance.
Garuntee, the bucket hat girl attacked the hikers first
Personally, I kind of doubt it, but even if she did, they are invading her property. Not much different from them invading her home. I think you'd agree that that's not cool, and she should be able to protect her property by force if necessary.
I checked records. There is no history of assault lol
Keep in mind, just because a police report may not have been filed, that doesn't mean an assault didn't happen. Also, it may have only been written up as a trespass. That's bad enough. They have a right to the privacy and security of their property. I'm not a property owner, but if I spent as much as it costs to own a home and land in Hawaii, I know I wouldn't want random people tramping through it.
The law makers talking about how dangerous the stairs are have never even seen them. They are stable and safe. Only part sketch is from the railing falling over them. Olomana is more dangerous and still legal
Why do people build their home in front of entrances to such things. Making it so nobody can enter anymore. That's where the real stupidity is.
Don't get me wrong I like this place and I want to visit it someday but I feel like calling this place the Stairway to Heaven is low-key disrespectful
Just a name. Nothing more
I hope it has been saved. The other way is more dangerous.
I bet if the hikers paid her she wouldn't be complaining.
I guess you’re one of morons who’d assault her and her kid if she yelled at you. Let me trespass on your property
Id gladly pay!
I think it's a liability issue, if someone gets hurt up there for any reason, you know tax payers will be covering the expense for the law suit.
You could get a scrap metal guy to take them down for next to nothing.
Daylenn “Moke” Pua, an 18-year-old hiker went missing the morning of February 27, 2015, after setting out to hike Haiku Stairs, one of Hawaii's most ...
I was station there in the Military when that young Man went missing. So sad for the family. He was never found. Rip Moke☦️
She knew they were there when she moved in
Why buy a house there if you don’t want hikers around you lol that’s just stupid
Take it down. The tourist has ruined it for us Kanaka. We have never seen this much rude, inconsiderate, and law breakers jack up something that has been a part of our childhood. Like always, I've seen nothing but tourists ruin my home since we moved.
@Dave C NEVER....Kevin breaking the law is not good. Karma always happens. Good luck.
@@nadinelynch9591 you dont own the land.. Your "sacred ways & lands" were sold out by the chiefs. Get over it or move. Its America. Period.
@Mrs. F ohhh, I'll get over it, alright. Stay in your lane, Karen. We know what to do with people like yourself. The law will handle it.
So how can I come and hike the stairs without bothering the locals? I’m up for any ideas but also I’m coming for the stairs just like people come to my beach here in Cali.
@Anton Reichel go up the legal way.
Our legislators’ true colors are showing. Tourist over residents, this was not an issue when this site was operating under the watchful eye of the military. Not sure what Sen. Schatz is up to, the decades old stairway is a hazard. And why is he even in the mix? One could assume side bars are at play behind closed doors. If the state wishes to continue to make money via the visitor industry from this life-threatening hazard, at least have the decency to address those that have to live with the issue for the rest of their lives.
Quote: "The stairs in place currently are still too dangerous to hike and need to come down"
minute 2:35 🦅
Nobody has died there and rescues are extremely rare. One guy died of a heart attack on trail, has nothing to do with the trail. The stairs are super safe and we’re rebuilt less than 20 years ago.
@@alexgray8804 Just got word it's going to be scrapped, sorry for your loss.
@@808pineapple wont stop people.. Sorry for your ignorance.
@@808pineapple they literally hike in from 5 different spots. Stairs or not. Locals need to have joint n chill out. Were not hurting anyone...
@@mrs.f8611 - The truth is, it won’t stop ignorant people.
Troll on
Hawaii is America Karen 😅
Take it down. It served its purpose but most importantly enough building on sacred land. Give it back to the kapunas....
"sacred" land. Its not exactly a wallmart. Its stairs... Swear the natives only live to complain.
YES I DO. But I'll make it known to others on how you feel about native hawaiians. And it is SACRED disrespect isn't good. But what do you care your not knowledgeable about our culture right. Nor do you care.
Clearly its more sacred to hikers making illegal and dangerous pilgrimages to the land. Tear down the houses. The stairs were there first I bet.
@xxuncexx the whole point is to be respectful of the residents of that area. If not, no matter what you say, it's still breaking the LAW, and people can pay the price for it. But maybe if people respect the residents, like asking. It doesn't hurt to try and ask. Mahalo ❤️
It’s been a problem for 35 years? Then fix it!
She yells the first time she sees you..curses and all so forget that witch and as far as stealing that is the entire island. You chose to live next to it anyways.
In the first place, it wasn't meant for tourists. It was for the military. So I hope she goes to Home Depot and starts securing her home. She needs barb wire, flood lights, warning signs, and most of all, her CCW protection. There's always a way to protect your home and family.
@@nadinelynch9591 what a joke
@Mrs. F not a joke. If you don't like it too bad.
Island is just racist to outsiders no joke most not all tho
As a Kanaka, I find the word racist pretty racist yourself due to the fact that there's nothing but MIXED cultures living here.
@@nadinelynch9591 😂
@@nadinelynch9591 hmmm. You literally have a racial slur for light skin people... HAOLE ring a bell? LMFAO deerrrrrppp
@@richardralston2953 facts, they think theyre special cuz of where they were born.... Which in reality is... AN AMERICAN HOSPITAL 😄😅🤣
@@mrs.f8611 facts 👍