@@petergordon9190 Romans tended to avoid stationing soldiers in places where they were from, so some roman soldiers probably did have British accents, just not the ones in Britain ;)
I'm fairly confident that none of the accents that existed back then have survived to the present day. Hell, the accent of my generation is nearly extinct and I haven't seen fifty years yet.
“You! Celt, have you been in Dacia recently?” “No, sir, this is the armor of the country, the local celts where this at home” “This isn’t home legionary, this is the Army! Take that off, we aren’t fighting dacians.” “Right away, sir.”
@@martijnvantzelfde484 Because there are people who are crazy and religious and think that spamming videos with their beliefs will somehow get them a better chance at heaven, somehow...
A piece of armor that prevents a soldier from running by whipping him in the balls....kind of seems sensible if your goal to discourage your men from routing.
also since they were big on discipline, it could be for the opposite case of that as well, if the enemy started running away you would want your men to stay in formation instead of running after them and potentially getting ambushed if it was a ruse
@@magmat0585 excellent point. Sources seldom mention Romans as being the "charge into battle" type. The tactic was to stay in a well-ordered formation, and outlast.
Aw you're right! I have no personal interest in any type of armor (what am I even doing here in this video ???) but felt all happy watching this gentleman because he seems proud and happy to be there with his armor and it's always nice to see passionate people 😊
The French have conscription. Goscinny & Uderzo's memories of the army would be all about cleaning kit and preparing for inspections. Whenever you see the Roman camps, they're always doing laundry!
@@markoj.7675 It's hard at times brother. People will hate you, but don't lose hope. I used to follow Pastor Gene Kim and hes a good teacher. Not our works save us but our faith in Christ alone. I just hope Christ, that lamb of God saves all.
That's so beautiful but it makes me wonder: why the hell Brittain has such a marvelous reenactment community and there is nothing like that in Greece? Its not like we dont have enough of history to talk about...
The only bad part of that show is the weird wrist things everyone is wearing. Apart for that I think most people would agree it's extremely historically authentic. At least compared to other depictions of the era
@@villehookeneriksson3473 You could argue for fashion, I guess? But yes, it was good, though the main flaw was that the second season was really rushed. They planned to shoot 5 seasons, going until the jewish rebellion in Palestine. They canceled it in favor of GoT because it (Rome) was (seemingly) too expensive to shoot.
I work at a Roman Museum Myself (Reconstructed Turf and Timber fort in england) and I gotta say was great watching this n hearing the lads talk about the stuff we talk about every day :) Keep it up Beige and keep it up Legionaries!
@@XxKINGatLIFExX The day to day is mostly spent in full costume as a legionary or auxiliary and teaching classes of primary school children about the site and the roman history that goes with it (focussing on the boudiccan revolt since that's the time period the fort existed in). As for how I got it, knew the right people who put me in contact with the trust that runs the fort. Spent a year volunteering there until a part time position opened up, and then just kept doing that for another year or so until a full time position opened up. Took a hell of a lot of work, but it was worth it :)
@@freewillgeorge wow thanks for your reply. That does sound like an awesome job and I'm happy for you that you are doing something meaningful and important. It's such an interesting time period it's a shame they didn't teach me when I was at school. I would have loved to come to your museum. All the best and keep up the awesome work!
He's so friendly and seems happy to be there 🙂 I don't know anything about armors (what am I even doing here in this video?) but his looks really nice with the shiny colour mix, and it's wholesome to watch people talking passionately about their interests!
Agreed, the exact kind of reenactor you want to meet and that you will learn from. So many are very shy, especially when neither they or the audience have an icebreaker.
I'm safe... are you? Hope they don't confiscate your tactical butter knife. Or... noif. :) Plus if you haven't gone shooting you're really missing out. Its like your a wizard that can explode things at a distance.
@Son Of Cherve I got that feeling too. You can tell who was interested in teaching and who just wanted to dress up; it seems like the people in scale armor tend to be more friendly it seems
@@eazy8579 This probably won't make any sense but I feel their lack of detail knowledge of what they're wearing is very authentic and to me acceptable. If you walked up to a modern day soldier and started asking specific, detailed questions about their gear, i.e. "what is that fabric made out of?" "why does it have three molle straps instead of two?" "how are the kevlar armor made?" they'll give you the same look as these guys. Just like a modern day soldier, whose job is to fight, not know every single bit of detail about their equipment, these re-enacto'rs jobs are to re-enact, not know every single bit of detail about their equipment. Even the confusion about specific information about warfare and how it relates to their armor, such as the horse soldier's scale armor, is typical of even modern day soldiers. It's very common for soldiers, or even re-enactors, not to understand how their armor affects their fighting effectiveness. Sorry if this doesn't make any sense. Now that I'm done I invite you all to tell me how much I'm wrong. On a side note if I was those soldiers I wouldn't be interested in talking to someone who is obviously there just to pick apart everything I said.
@@120masterpiece i know you commented this a year ago, but. Modern soldiers arent the same as reenactment societies. Modern soldiers are, well, soldiers, so as long as they know how to use their equipment, they are fine. Reenactment groups are living history groups, mainly for education, so i would think that members of a reenactment group would know the why's and how's of their equipment, and if they dont know because it simply isn' known to anyone (like the magic-rope thing) then admit that it isn't known. Altough to be fair, i see the appeal of wearing ancient kit just for the fun and not knowing much about it
@@lindybeige Double Geography (eyes light up) !?!? Yes, Please! Even as early as the 1960s geography was, at best, minimally taught in U.S. public schools (that is state schools, possibly comprehensive school equivalents). American baby-boomers usually only learned their geography after leaving school, by being sent to the other side of the world to meet interesting people and do interesting things.
@@jonrolfson1686 I always enjoyed geography. Granted I can't recall it actively being taught in school, but I have always had a fascination with looking at maps.
The Classic Roman Centurion at 12:13; Seen him on military magazines & military booklets since the 90s; finally we hear the voice of the Centurion speak forth his knowledge & authority.. Well done, LB.
I was thinking something similar. "I swear I've seen this centurion before" Had to come down here and see if anyone else noticed that he looks like he was born to play one.
I met these guys a few years ago when English Heritage were still doing their Festivals of History at Kelmarsh Hall. Super friendly, loved talking to the public and encouraged my love of Roman history.
This harmless little comment reminds me of back in 2008-2009 ish when I was training to be a printer, worked/learned in this printing factory specializing in books. One of which, talked about this new fangled awesome thing called "QR codes" and how they work and how they are so much better than bar codes and how we should all use them instead. And my immediate thought was "Cool...but probably won't ever catch on. Changing an industry standard, just like that? Gotta be kidding." Well... XD QR codes had been around a bit by that time, but nobody really used them for much. The book was basically advocating for replacing bar-codes with them or supplementing them, because QR codes can do so much more than standard bar-code.
In a less formal reenacting group some friends of mine are in, the Roman camp woke up one day to see "Romani Ite Domum" painted all around the outside.
As an American when i toured around England and Scotland i found Hadrian's wall absolutely amazing piece of engineering. I mean the bloody thing just went up the side of large hills amazingly. I mean would have been easier to go around but no right up the side and the wall remained pretty dang straight. Loved it.
That dioptra is wild. Now I need to know how many other excellent, civilization-building contraptions the Romans had. I want a comprehensive list on my desk by Monday, Lindy.
apo kos I think it is a word that Latin took from Ancient Greek since it comes from δια (dia) + the root οπ- (op-) that’s from the verb “I see” ( οραω-οψομαι- ειδον etc.)
I love the way you interview people in the various videos. They look a little startled but then realize you are knowlegable and genuinely curious and they relax and have a nice chat with you.
"It is not a weapon. Never ever we carry a weapons in public. We might have 'sport equipment' or 'theatre props' but weapons? No officer, that is not a weapon at all. Yes, I know it looks like I have a sword, spear, shield and full armour and it is all made from pretty good steel and hard wood, but weapons? Not at all. Honestly... And yes, I know that this looks like a rifle and it is certified for lead balls, but we put only gun powder in it. We got it certified just to be sure it is safe to use. Oh, and that bow is only for show. I know, it has 100 pounds draw and we have some arrows, but that it only to show people how dangerous it was in medieval times. All that is just for show. And yes, I know we train with them and train in formations, but that is only to give people a good show, it has nothing to do with really killing anyone. Honestly..." Yeah, these conversations are great, especially if you have there two police officers, one asking and the other standing back with hand on pistol in holster.
Reminds me of that tom clancy book... rainbow six? Where the legionaries in the amusement park secretly sharpen their swords, a bit carried away by their enthousiasm for their job
@@enjibkk6850 Yeah that one where they were sharpening their swords and practicing with them on their down time and they tried to go hack n' slash when the terrorists showed up.
Jacob Ashburner if anything the waistcoat is older than the modern jumper so it would've been more traditional to wear the waistcoat. So this means that Lloyd is more the rebellious type, and I think that is the case since his hair seems to be rebellious too. Also Lloyd of all the most British of British people admitted he doesn't drink tea. Quite rebellious if you ask me. Perhaps this could be down to the DNA test he took in which it is discovered that he is part French. Quite scandalous...
"Back to people pretending to be suspiciously elderly Romans" - thank you! Exactly what I was thinking watching this. :) Excellent material, well done.
Big Lenin - cheers dude, it’s a lot of fun to do and it’s great when people ask questions! The whole point of these events is to display to the public and share our enthusiasm. :-) If you want to see more (other group members and my own kit has been updated since) hit up our Facebook page: facebook.com/magistermilitumreenactment/
I thought the same ! Don't know anything about any of this but his scale armor thing (?) looks great and it's wholesome to see people talk passionately about their interests! Also now I know that if I ever have a helmet made for myself, I should chose flamingo feathers ! Pink and water proof 😎
@@lindybeige apparently, some English linguists still advise using a diaeresis for words like coöperate, reärrange, reënact, so I make my best use out of the few English diacritics we are allowed to use.
On nearly every other video on RUclips, I generally hit the "skip ahead" feature several times whenever a sponsorship add comes up. It speaks well of your skills as a presenter that I'm never tempted to do so on your channel.
The people in this convention seems amazing. They talk about their art as if it was normal and present day, and at a convention like this this is what you want
I really appreciate how much Lindy is able to fit into these videos. A 40 minute video by someone else might feel over-long but I think that he keeps things moving nicely. The short bits interspersing the long bits also helps.
God bless Floyd. He explains ExpressVPN with the style we've come to love and the detail of someone that has genuinely put in a lot of effort into understanding what a VPN is. It's not the basic "just read the script" description of a VPN you get from most youtubers, he's clearly done his homework - which is exactly what you'd expect from a historian. I also liked his quip about the other US Civil War guys having terrible Roman costumes.
"Discombulatte...that's like drinking a coffee made of...no I'm not going to go there" It's true what they say about Roman soliders. Foul minded the lot of them.
I like how reasonable a lot of these chaps are. Particularly when Lindybeige criticised their armour, they seemed quite upfront and not defensive about the armour's downsides
I suspect that with the scale armor, it would be very hard to actually land an upward thrust that's strong enough to go through, especially considering the backing and the subarmalis underneath. On the other hand, it seems thick and "squishy" enough to absorb a powerful blow from something like a falx or from a blunt weapon, yet still easy to maintain and repair.
A bit mean as they were so kind as to answer his questions, but they reminded me of a mix between Ferengi (with the ear protectors) and guards from Ankh Morpork.
You're so cheeky when addressing the reenactors on their kit, but you do so in such a way that leaves everyone with a chuckle. Cheers from the USA, and keep up the great historical content!
It's amazing to think that some of the military equipment was used for generations. Could you imagine if a soldier today went to battle with some of his grandfather's wwii equipment?
I didn't realize that 'pill box' hats ( were worn by Roman soldiers. Thanks to the reenactor for inspiring me to look it up and learn something new. Thanks for the video - always enjoyable.
I saw these guys marching thru central Malmö, Sweden, in the mid 1990's. Impessive bunch! I remember their centurion to look hard as nails - almost scary. Perfect man for the job. Great outfit!!!
Realistically, would you say that archeology is a field that I should commit my savings to? Career potential is what I mean. I don't know how to say it without sounding arrogant but I graduated at fourteen and I think I have the intelligence for it (I have never met one, but I assume archeologists do need to be quite intelligent.) and despite my best attempts the only passions I have are for history, mythology, language, and folklore.
@@RoosterFloyd Well, you're doing the best thing which is to ask people questions. I'm not a professional archaeologist but I've known a few. To make enough money in archaeology in Europe; you need to be very academic and capable of competing in that environment. You'll need to earn a PhD, lecture and publish. Otherwise work can be sporadic, which is fine whilst you're young but will become a drag as you get older. I would research what the departments in individual universities can offer you. Most will have specialties (Roman, South American, Near Eastern etc) and they will have sites and connections in those countries. My impression is that US colleges tend to have a lot more money to work with and may have a clearer career path. If you decide that your passion can't pay the bills, it's best to get something like a tech job that will, and then indulge yourself later. Or so I have been told. Cheers.
@@deceptivepanther Thank you, very much. I don't really have anyone to ask this stuff. Man, why couldn't I just want to be a a famous twitch streamer, I could fail at that for a few months for free and decide to get a soul crushing job then, easy peasy. Heh Thank you again.
@@RoosterFloyd Oh yeah, welcome to the wonderful world of adulthood and indentured servitude. The other thing that occurred to me is that archaeology is a bit like medicine; specialisation is important. Ideally you want to be that guy who can pick up a tiny shard of pottery and give an exact date to the entire layer of the dig. People like that are always in demand, but PhDs take many years during which you will be poor. Not trying to put you off though. You will be working with some of the coolest people, going interesting places and university is a big step up from a job in telesales. Definitely get a higher degree of some sort. :)
@@deceptivepanther I've been called a genius for so long the word has no meaning, I'm not sure it ever has, could be nothing more than honeyed words from people and a few lucky flukes on my part. Honesty is what I needed. Besides, if you did talk me out of it so easily then I don't think I would be cut out for it, in which case you would have saved me a lot of pain and heartache. However, I think it's worth a shot, I'll have to do a bit more investigating. Completely seriously though... I can't whip and I've never found a hat I like the look of, they are all just so high, you know? I'm a smaller guy, it will look like I'm trying to sneak in a few inches. I don't know what to do about this part. Heheh, sorry, I bet you get that often, but it's a classic. It takes stronger self-control than I know to resist such low hanging fruit. For real though, thank you for your time. Decency, I wouldn't call it rare these days, I wouldn't really know, but I wish I could do more than say a simple thank you. It means a lot
Thank goodness you met guys who know their stuff. I’m researching the role of Cornwall and Devon in the Overlord operations, having spoken with a large number of these guys most are just in it for the bling and haven’t a clue
That was a really excellent Video. And fantastic that every person you spoke to really new his stuff! No dodging either "We really don't know". Very refreshing! 👍🏻
I love it when people bring up how short the Roman Gladius was, because it speaks to how the Romans were so different from the rest of the Classical world. Every other civilization would want to put their biggest, most terrifying troops in front armed with the biggest, scariest weapons, mocking all the while those short Italians with their short swords and big shields, gingerly marching towards them.
The Romans were an army, like any other. There was a time when they were the best, like any army has the potential to be when they have money and power behind them, but it's fascinating to see people not just emulating that period but downfall period as well. They were also practical and smart, apparently.
I suspect that the late army was actually better overall than the high Imperial army, since it was forced to adapt to heavy cavalry and armies fielded by more organized kingdoms.
I don't know how much credit you get from commenters appreciating your "no edit" monalogues. You're pretty damn good at speaking quickly, articulately, and humorously all in one take
Suspicious elderly Romans? Well, I remember Chris, the Centurion of the Ermine Street Guard, from his appearance in the first season of Time Team in 1994... Just 26 years of service for the imperium...
I know this is accurate because all the Romans have British accents just like in all the movies.
After 400 years as a Roman province, of course the Romans have British accents.
@@petergordon9190 Romans tended to avoid stationing soldiers in places where they were from, so some roman soldiers probably did have British accents, just not the ones in Britain ;)
@@stickpivot1000 it would be celtic briton accent though, not anglo-saxon
I'm fairly confident that none of the accents that existed back then have survived to the present day.
Hell, the accent of my generation is nearly extinct and I haven't seen fifty years yet.
@@irgendwer3610 Would be Roman Britons. Celts who spoke Latin. British Anglo Saxon would be English.
Roasting reanactors lmao they look like they're getting inspected by their centurion.
Someone get Lloyd a vine baton.
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“You! Celt, have you been in Dacia recently?”
“No, sir, this is the armor of the country, the local celts where this at home”
“This isn’t home legionary, this is the Army! Take that off, we aren’t fighting dacians.”
“Right away, sir.”
I was so uncomfortable about this aspect, I stopped watching it. A first.
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"Damn, historian types. Always testing our knowledge."
"Titus why does this barbarian looking guy keep asking me to wear pants"
What are pants?
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@@markoj.7675 Nobody cares, nobody's gonna "be saved" from a youtube video you sack of dirt
ZyIn Ghost
Yeah. I hate them so much. They’re so disgusting for trying to spread their religion. Absolute scumbag..
"Its more bling more than anything..." -Roman Legionary (circa MMXX)
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@@markoj.7675 Why this random video about how to go to heaven? It has nothing to do with this comment or this video
Marko J. That’s some great information. Unfortunately, it is a bit out of date. He made an updated version: ruclips.net/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/видео.html
Thomas Zhang You cant fool me, I remember the link to that.
@@martijnvantzelfde484 Because there are people who are crazy and religious and think that spamming videos with their beliefs will somehow get them a better chance at heaven, somehow...
2000 years from now they’ll be some guys standing in a field wearing modern uniforms vibing beside an Abrams tank
2000? I give it 50 at best. Just look at how fast WWII reenacting took off.
I didnt know Loyd could time travel? Cleary he must have some kind of advantage over us
That is a possibility for sure. Though maybe in a few decades.
Don't think we'll make it this far
it will be in the matrix though
A piece of armor that prevents a soldier from running by whipping him in the balls....kind of seems sensible if your goal to discourage your men from routing.
That would explain it.
Unless you run sideways.
Your very own armor punishes you for cowardice. Genius.
also since they were big on discipline, it could be for the opposite case of that as well, if the enemy started running away you would want your men to stay in formation instead of running after them and potentially getting ambushed if it was a ruse
@@magmat0585 excellent point. Sources seldom mention Romans as being the "charge into battle" type. The tactic was to stay in a well-ordered formation, and outlast.
"Optio, may I borrow your blade a moment?"
Love these folks
If I were to larp as a Roman legionnaire, I would insist on the name "Iunio".
(bonus points for anyone who gets the reference).
@@Hiraghm Optio isn't a name, it's a rank.
8:30
I'd be yelling "SHEATH YOUR SWORDS! SHEATH YOUR SWORDS!".
yeah, I heard that and smiled.
"Tall weird man insults group of men having a nice day"
lol no
Right. Never seen someone be so unenthusiastic lol
he is not insulting them but damn that vibe sure does give a feel of him just bullying them
Gen
Thank god I'm not the only who noticed. Every time he does this videos on reenactment events he is super passive aggressive
10:50. I love the upbeat and friendly attitude the guy has. He seems mighty proud about his scale armor - and rightfully so! What a beautiful piece.
Also the observation of the wear on the hilt of the gladii.
Aw you're right! I have no personal interest in any type of armor (what am I even doing here in this video ???) but felt all happy watching this gentleman because he seems proud and happy to be there with his armor and it's always nice to see passionate people 😊
@@bel8122 He's a very nice chap in reality too, and a personal friend of mine.
@@Crispvs1 tell him we say hello!
Whenever I see Roman soldiers I always think of the ones from Asterix who’d talk about food and recipes all day.
Let's be honest, back in those days you had no radio, tv, internet... I see that as very accurate if anything.
I could easily see the lazy camps often depicted around the gauls' village as the standard during the pax romana, now that I think about it.
The French have conscription. Goscinny & Uderzo's memories of the army would be all about cleaning kit and preparing for inspections. Whenever you see the Roman camps, they're always doing laundry!
I just noticed that the shields in asterix are blue and not red
@@jessedebruijn8310 and the tuniques are (generally) green...
That moment when an immortal who was alive in roman times crashes your historical reenactment and starts questioning everything you do.
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@@markoj.7675 ur gay
@@markoj.7675 It's hard at times brother. People will hate you, but don't lose hope.
I used to follow Pastor Gene Kim and hes a good teacher.
Not our works save us but our faith in Christ alone. I just hope Christ, that lamb of God saves all.
John Doe dude, no one cares. We’re not here for that bullshit 😂😂
@@TheOldBlackShuckyDog Shush up. I was talking to Marko. Don't need to read it if you don't care now do you 😐.
That's so beautiful but it makes me wonder: why the hell Brittain has such a marvelous reenactment community and there is nothing like that in Greece? Its not like we dont have enough of history to talk about...
No reenactment in Greece? Yeah thats pretty sad given your history
Yeah, I would really like some folks reenacting a Macedonian phalanx. And being obviously a part on it.
I would love participating on a phalanx reenaction.
I suppose the culture is different.
Because Greece is poor?
"Have you recently returned from Dacia?"
Guy: No.
Quite unexpected information right there! If you ask me it was a matter of 50-50 chance
@@PrimatoFortunato 1/3 if you include "I don't know"
or how about - "that's need to know, OPSEC"
Other Guy: Nahh, had better experience with opel
lol
the accents of these Roman soldiers remind me of Rome the HBO series, I would very much love it if Lindy reviews it some day
He has, quite a few years ago actually.
I think he featured it in his crap archey video, but may have been another show from that era.
The sets are good!
The only bad part of that show is the weird wrist things everyone is wearing. Apart for that I think most people would agree it's extremely historically authentic. At least compared to other depictions of the era
@@villehookeneriksson3473 You could argue for fashion, I guess?
But yes, it was good, though the main flaw was that the second season was really rushed. They planned to shoot 5 seasons, going until the jewish rebellion in Palestine. They canceled it in favor of GoT because it (Rome) was (seemingly) too expensive to shoot.
I love how re-enacters are always so friendly and eager to share factoids with enthusiasm.
But they're not factoids
I work at a Roman Museum Myself (Reconstructed Turf and Timber fort in england) and I gotta say was great watching this n hearing the lads talk about the stuff we talk about every day :) Keep it up Beige and keep it up Legionaries!
What museum is that? Sounds like a place I'd like to visit!
@@timecorn the Lunt Fort in Baginton. We're closed at the moment due to the Virus but will be re-opening one day a week next month :)
@@freewillgeorge What an awesome job you have. Can I ask what do you do as part of your job and how did you get it?
@@XxKINGatLIFExX The day to day is mostly spent in full costume as a legionary or auxiliary and teaching classes of primary school children about the site and the roman history that goes with it (focussing on the boudiccan revolt since that's the time period the fort existed in). As for how I got it, knew the right people who put me in contact with the trust that runs the fort. Spent a year volunteering there until a part time position opened up, and then just kept doing that for another year or so until a full time position opened up. Took a hell of a lot of work, but it was worth it :)
@@freewillgeorge wow thanks for your reply. That does sound like an awesome job and I'm happy for you that you are doing something meaningful and important. It's such an interesting time period it's a shame they didn't teach me when I was at school. I would have loved to come to your museum. All the best and keep up the awesome work!
“Does that actually work?”
The guy shifts a little so that the shied covers his groin! 😂
Haha smart man, he knows how videos on the internet go sometimes
27:41 - top lad. Very articulate and perfect chemistry with lloyd.
He's so friendly and seems happy to be there 🙂 I don't know anything about armors (what am I even doing here in this video?) but his looks really nice with the shiny colour mix, and it's wholesome to watch people talking passionately about their interests!
Agreed, the exact kind of reenactor you want to meet and that you will learn from. So many are very shy, especially when neither they or the audience have an icebreaker.
Lindybeige- "So your wondering around in public carrying a lethal weapon?"
Americans- "I don't see the problem here."
Because there is no problem
I'm safe... are you? Hope they don't confiscate your tactical butter knife. Or... noif. :)
Plus if you haven't gone shooting you're really missing out. Its like your a wizard that can explode things at a distance.
Also anyone driving a car or truck or motorcycle has a lethal weapon at their disposal.
@@mike-0451 yes the good old times we had only swords and amour - all got ruined by fire weapons
Bavarian Car Enthusiast sorry brother I’d much rather have one of my AR’s than a sword any day. See the wizard comment above. ☝️
Love watching Loyd pester very uncomfortable people asking them about the accuracy of their armor
@Son Of Cherve I got that feeling too. You can tell who was interested in teaching and who just wanted to dress up; it seems like the people in scale armor tend to be more friendly it seems
@@eazy8579 This probably won't make any sense but I feel their lack of detail knowledge of what they're wearing is very authentic and to me acceptable. If you walked up to a modern day soldier and started asking specific, detailed questions about their gear, i.e. "what is that fabric made out of?" "why does it have three molle straps instead of two?" "how are the kevlar armor made?" they'll give you the same look as these guys. Just like a modern day soldier, whose job is to fight, not know every single bit of detail about their equipment, these re-enacto'rs jobs are to re-enact, not know every single bit of detail about their equipment.
Even the confusion about specific information about warfare and how it relates to their armor, such as the horse soldier's scale armor, is typical of even modern day soldiers. It's very common for soldiers, or even re-enactors, not to understand how their armor affects their fighting effectiveness.
Sorry if this doesn't make any sense. Now that I'm done I invite you all to tell me how much I'm wrong.
On a side note if I was those soldiers I wouldn't be interested in talking to someone who is obviously there just to pick apart everything I said.
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Lol you're not wrong
@@120masterpiece i know you commented this a year ago, but.
Modern soldiers arent the same as reenactment societies. Modern soldiers are, well, soldiers, so as long as they know how to use their equipment, they are fine. Reenactment groups are living history groups, mainly for education, so i would think that members of a reenactment group would know the why's and how's of their equipment, and if they dont know because it simply isn' known to anyone (like the magic-rope thing) then admit that it isn't known.
Altough to be fair, i see the appeal of wearing ancient kit just for the fun and not knowing much about it
"Roman apple crumble!!" Love the public schoolboy in Lindy. Apple Crumble day is a good day.
Would have been, but for double geography.
@@lindybeige Double Geography (eyes light up) !?!? Yes, Please!
Even as early as the 1960s geography was, at best, minimally taught in U.S. public schools (that is state schools, possibly comprehensive school equivalents). American baby-boomers usually only learned their geography after leaving school, by being sent to the other side of the world to meet interesting people and do interesting things.
@@jonrolfson1686 I always enjoyed geography.
Granted I can't recall it actively being taught in school, but I have always had a fascination with looking at maps.
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@@jonrolfson1686 I'm a Canadian baby boomer. We were taught Geography. I was rubbish at it, but loved History and English.
32:57 The Roman throwing dart. I had no idea how these should be used. But the explanation here is very clear and makes a lot of sense.
Good stuff
It's a fucking lawn dart 😂😂
@@jadenlilly6113 Can see why the lawn darts were banned now...
Yes, and I liked how the underarm throw was explained. Like Lindy, I was thinking overarm would be better but underarm makes sense for the darks
@@johnfairhurstReviews THE MOST DANGEROUS GAME!
I always assumed they used a throwing stick - which work very well with darts.
The Classic Roman Centurion at 12:13; Seen him on military magazines & military booklets since the 90s; finally we hear the voice of the Centurion speak forth his knowledge & authority.. Well done, LB.
Chris Haines, he was a hell of a lot louder in the 90s when I was in the guard!
I was thinking something similar. "I swear I've seen this centurion before" Had to come down here and see if anyone else noticed that he looks like he was born to play one.
Magnificent. They do quite a good job of bringing history to life, don't they? And individually quite knowledgeable.
Quite.
"These Roman costumes are rubbish."
That took me so off guard, I nearly choked to death on my lunch. Well played Lloyd. Well played.
They're lousy CW re-enactors too. Completely farby flag.
Bruuh why is it too bad they’re not roman?
“ They took their flag!”
@Tulkas Astaldo Pants? Barbarians...
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I met these guys a few years ago when English Heritage were still doing their Festivals of History at Kelmarsh Hall. Super friendly, loved talking to the public and encouraged my love of Roman history.
8:50 this guy looks sooo good in his armour not goofy or unfitting like in most movies.
2:05 Didn’t know the Romans invented QR codes.
Hahaha good one :)
Probably makes it easier to inventory kit in the legion depot
I knew I wasnt the only one who saw that.
This harmless little comment reminds me of back in 2008-2009 ish when I was training to be a printer, worked/learned in this printing factory specializing in books. One of which, talked about this new fangled awesome thing called "QR codes" and how they work and how they are so much better than bar codes and how we should all use them instead.
And my immediate thought was "Cool...but probably won't ever catch on. Changing an industry standard, just like that? Gotta be kidding."
Well... XD
QR codes had been around a bit by that time, but nobody really used them for much. The book was basically advocating for replacing bar-codes with them or supplementing them, because QR codes can do so much more than standard bar-code.
In a less formal reenacting group some friends of mine are in, the Roman camp woke up one day to see "Romani Ite Domum" painted all around the outside.
Isn't it Romanes eunt domus?
Sorry, what does that mean?
@@vulpes7079 This video will explain the joke: ruclips.net/video/IIAdHEwiAy8/видео.html
@@vulpes7079 Ask a Pythonist.
@@andreascovano7742 Jesus Christ why are people so fickle with Latin? "Uuuummm ACTCHUALLY' hahahahah
Never knew ad 400 rome would be that interesting, those kits were amazing.
I find that period the most interesting. There is so much variety
1st century BCE is were it is at.
@@andreascovano7742 I agree. The late Roman army is so I interesting and very aesthetically beautiful imo
@@mustafaamin9516 Byzantine.
As an American when i toured around England and Scotland i found Hadrian's wall absolutely amazing piece of engineering. I mean the bloody thing just went up the side of large hills amazingly. I mean would have been easier to go around but no right up the side and the wall remained pretty dang straight. Loved it.
As a Brit, I am proud to see you use British slang like ‘bloody’ 😁
The Roman's were mighty MIGHTY!!!!!
"Gucci scabbard" Oh please no.
Legit read this as it was said
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In military terms Gucci means anything that's fancier than the standard kit
@@lewishamilton1816 "Fancier" usually meaning better
In the early 1st century AD the Lorica Segmentata was certainly gucci gear, most plebs in the legions still got the Lorica Hamata.
Surely modern soldieds would call that scabbard piercing "tactical", not bling?
* Tacticool
caveymoley BOOM BOOM
Well said!
Nah fam its gucci gear
Definitely call it Gucci instead
Another field trip from professor Lindybeige?! There goes the next 40+ minutes of my life, glued to the television screen.
That dioptra is wild. Now I need to know how many other excellent, civilization-building contraptions the Romans had. I want a comprehensive list on my desk by Monday, Lindy.
dioptra is the Greek word for "scope" or "glasses", even used today. is it the same root source?
apo kos I think it is a word that Latin took from Ancient Greek since it comes from δια (dia) + the root οπ- (op-) that’s from the verb “I see” ( οραω-οψομαι- ειδον etc.)
I wholeheartedly agree with OP! That dioptra left me not believing that could be made by romans!
I remember growing up in England there was a town in either Norfolk or Suffolk that still has the Roman made wall around it.
Luke Nagy there are a few roman forts in the south of the UK.
Yeah im sure its norwich i used to live near there saw the wall a lot its quite cool hiw its still there
Yeah there’s lots of Roman ruins and burial sights around the south
Colchester in Essex also still has some of it's wall
Epicforger 12345 I’m sure that was it. My family and I lived in Swaffham and would sometimes visit Norwich.
I love the way you interview people in the various videos. They look a little startled but then realize you are knowlegable and genuinely curious and they relax and have a nice chat with you.
"It is not a weapon. Never ever we carry a weapons in public. We might have 'sport equipment' or 'theatre props' but weapons? No officer, that is not a weapon at all. Yes, I know it looks like I have a sword, spear, shield and full armour and it is all made from pretty good steel and hard wood, but weapons? Not at all. Honestly... And yes, I know that this looks like a rifle and it is certified for lead balls, but we put only gun powder in it. We got it certified just to be sure it is safe to use. Oh, and that bow is only for show. I know, it has 100 pounds draw and we have some arrows, but that it only to show people how dangerous it was in medieval times. All that is just for show. And yes, I know we train with them and train in formations, but that is only to give people a good show, it has nothing to do with really killing anyone. Honestly..."
Yeah, these conversations are great, especially if you have there two police officers, one asking and the other standing back with hand on pistol in holster.
Reminds me of that tom clancy book... rainbow six? Where the legionaries in the amusement park secretly sharpen their swords, a bit carried away by their enthousiasm for their job
@@enjibkk6850 Yeah that one where they were sharpening their swords and practicing with them on their down time and they tried to go hack n' slash when the terrorists showed up.
@@Mr.Unclean534 do you know the title?
@@gabrielvanhelsing9281 Yeah it's Rainbow Six
If it's US police officers there won't even be a word of conversation.
He's wearing a waistcoat and not a jumper!!!!! This is a catastrophic breach of tradition.
It was a very warm day.
It was Beige, I'm cool with it lol.
Jacob Ashburner if anything the waistcoat is older than the modern jumper so it would've been more traditional to wear the waistcoat. So this means that Lloyd is more the rebellious type, and I think that is the case since his hair seems to be rebellious too. Also Lloyd of all the most British of British people admitted he doesn't drink tea. Quite rebellious if you ask me. Perhaps this could be down to the DNA test he took in which it is discovered that he is part French. Quite scandalous...
@@lindybeige I see
Jumper? That's English for sweater, right?
Last time I was this early the Swedish empire was still feared by everyone in the Baltic!
I live in the baltic and im scared shitless of sweden and its fuckery
Denmark was only scared of Sweden once, in 1657-1660.
hi
@@thesshark1617 www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/11/11/as-bombings-spread-denmark-closes-border-with-sweden/
swedens fuuucked uuup
Why haven't we seen your custom made armor and sword you made in a while?
When the scorpion came, for somehow I was just waiting for the German laughter and its features :D
These ancient Terran footmen have a stunning resemblance to the Ultramar auxilla, truly fascinating.
Awesome. Thanks Lindy. It's interesting how well equipped the Roman legions were and how good the logistics system was .
28:00 wow, that armor must have set him back a pretty penny. That kit looks absolutely gorgeous.
I really wasn’t expecting to hear the term “Gucci scabbard” this early in the morning.
I wouldn't be surprised if he said "Gucci scabbard" for the first time, ever
"Back to people pretending to be suspiciously elderly Romans" - thank you! Exactly what I was thinking watching this. :) Excellent material, well done.
The chap at 28:00 is the only person who seems to want to be on camera. Hes very charismatic too
Thanks mate, that was me! :-)
@@LieutenantBromhead lol that cool dude, love the passion!
Big Lenin - cheers dude, it’s a lot of fun to do and it’s great when people ask questions! The whole point of these events is to display to the public and share our enthusiasm. :-)
If you want to see more (other group members and my own kit has been updated since) hit up our Facebook page: facebook.com/magistermilitumreenactment/
I thought the same ! Don't know anything about any of this but his scale armor thing (?) looks great and it's wholesome to see people talk passionately about their interests!
Also now I know that if I ever have a helmet made for myself, I should chose flamingo feathers ! Pink and water proof 😎
I love seeing people put so much love & passion into a thing just for the sheer joy of doing it.
It's so much fun to see a libertarian in the lindybeige channel
I met he Ermine Street guard in the September of last year at Chester, a very good reënactment indeed!
Nice diaeresis!
@@lindybeige apparently, some English linguists still advise using a diaeresis for words like coöperate, reärrange, reënact, so I make my best use out of the few English diacritics we are allowed to use.
@@lindybeige You seem to have misspelled "diæresis"
@@AvrahamYairStern what about "zoölogy"?
@@lucaswalker6498 well yes zoölogical and zoölogy are also examples I've seen.
On nearly every other video on RUclips, I generally hit the "skip ahead" feature several times whenever a sponsorship add comes up. It speaks well of your skills as a presenter that I'm never tempted to do so on your channel.
*Twang* - "Hiaaaaarg." That totally got me in tears :D
"So, you're wandering around in public carrying a lethal weapon?"
"Yes."
26:57 - frame saw !
27:00 - carpenter's planes !
39:03 - chisels & a mallet !
Woodworkers through the millennia ; always gnawing splinters out of fingers.
These guys are doing important work, and having a great time doing it, big respect to them
Fun fact, the Centurion has been doing Roman reenactment for 40+ years. Met him in Xanten, decent chap. The entire group is.
The people in this convention seems amazing. They talk about their art as if it was normal and present day, and at a convention like this this is what you want
I love their passion, I wish I could someday learn from them.
“What have the Romans ever done for us?!”
The aqueduct?
Me Auntie Nora wot?
@@MeAuntieNora Ok but besides aquaducts, what have they ever done for us? Huh?
@@lotoreo clean sanitation?
Roads?
You should come to Split again during the summer when the days of Diocletian are held. Lot's of reenactment going on and it looks really spectacular
I agree! There is even a live museum open during the summer, but I'm not sure how historically accurate some of the costumes were.
So are the cabbages on Diocletian? I swear if I have to bring the cabbages and the maggoty bread maybe it's my high time for princeps.
I really appreciate how much Lindy is able to fit into these videos. A 40 minute video by someone else might feel over-long but I think that he keeps things moving nicely. The short bits interspersing the long bits also helps.
So this is like ComicCon but for history nerds?
Nowhere near as cancerous.
@@Marci124 Probably smells better as well.
Re-enacting
@@fus132 hahahahahahaha
People who are highly cultured, knowledgeable and care about remembering the past so we know who we are today? I’m in
God bless Floyd.
He explains ExpressVPN with the style we've come to love and the detail of someone that has genuinely put in a lot of effort into understanding what a VPN is. It's not the basic "just read the script" description of a VPN you get from most youtubers, he's clearly done his homework - which is exactly what you'd expect from a historian.
I also liked his quip about the other US Civil War guys having terrible Roman costumes.
I’m getting serious Spinal Tap vibes here, BTW. Maybe Roman re-enactment should the subject for Christopher Guest’s next movie?
Chris , I think, would have, but for those pesky Medieval Monty Python lads, all dressed up & flouncing around. ⚓️ A good laff that?
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highlight for me was those darts, what a clever invention for so many reasons.
"Discombulatte...that's like drinking a coffee made of...no I'm not going to go there"
It's true what they say about Roman soliders. Foul minded the lot of them.
Just came across this and what a spectacular video! The constant influx of little details throughout was absolutely wonderful. Greatly enjoyed this.
Lindy on a Sunday afternoon, perfect.
I like how reasonable a lot of these chaps are. Particularly when Lindybeige criticised their armour, they seemed quite upfront and not defensive about the armour's downsides
Cool upload Lindy, their kit is how I always imagined it
Well done! Please make more when you can. I love the living history and reenactors that actually want to talk with you and know thier part.
I suspect that with the scale armor, it would be very hard to actually land an upward thrust that's strong enough to go through, especially considering the backing and the subarmalis underneath. On the other hand, it seems thick and "squishy" enough to absorb a powerful blow from something like a falx or from a blunt weapon, yet still easy to maintain and repair.
you gotta love a bunch of guys who are out there trying to keep the history alive.
That isn't their goal. They're big wealthy boys with masculine toys. Keeping it alive happens in museums, classrooms and documentaries.
A bit mean as they were so kind as to answer his questions, but they reminded me of a mix between Ferengi (with the ear protectors) and guards from Ankh Morpork.
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Discworld!
You're so cheeky when addressing the reenactors on their kit, but you do so in such a way that leaves everyone with a chuckle. Cheers from the USA, and keep up the great historical content!
It's amazing to think that some of the military equipment was used for generations. Could you imagine if a soldier today went to battle with some of his grandfather's wwii equipment?
Omg I loved that ending blurb, never change Lindy
When the Roman version of the ‘Ninja Punch’ non-judicial punishment was a literal stick.
I didn't realize that 'pill box' hats ( were worn by Roman soldiers. Thanks to the reenactor for inspiring me to look it up and learn something new.
Thanks for the video - always enjoyable.
4:29 Is that the fella that was on the TV series 'come dine with me' who was into historical reenactment? Looks and sounds like him.
Feel like I remember that one lol
I saw these guys marching thru central Malmö, Sweden, in the mid 1990's. Impessive bunch! I remember their centurion to look hard as nails - almost scary. Perfect man for the job. Great outfit!!!
I didnt realize lawn darts were just revamped Roman throwing darts
They're the throwing darts specialized for suburban combat
From ancient battlefield to the back yard. I guess that explains all the injury lawsuits...
I've an archaeology degree from the nineties and I don't know a half of this detail. This is the internet at its best. Great work.
Realistically, would you say that archeology is a field that I should commit my savings to? Career potential is what I mean.
I don't know how to say it without sounding arrogant but I graduated at fourteen and I think I have the intelligence for it (I have never met one, but I assume archeologists do need to be quite intelligent.) and despite my best attempts the only passions I have are for history, mythology, language, and folklore.
@@RoosterFloyd Well, you're doing the best thing which is to ask people questions. I'm not a professional archaeologist but I've known a few. To make enough money in archaeology in Europe; you need to be very academic and capable of competing in that environment. You'll need to earn a PhD, lecture and publish. Otherwise work can be sporadic, which is fine whilst you're young but will become a drag as you get older.
I would research what the departments in individual universities can offer you. Most will have specialties (Roman, South American, Near Eastern etc) and they will have sites and connections in those countries. My impression is that US colleges tend to have a lot more money to work with and may have a clearer career path.
If you decide that your passion can't pay the bills, it's best to get something like a tech job that will, and then indulge yourself later. Or so I have been told. Cheers.
@@deceptivepanther Thank you, very much. I don't really have anyone to ask this stuff.
Man, why couldn't I just want to be a a famous twitch streamer, I could fail at that for a few months for free and decide to get a soul crushing job then, easy peasy. Heh
Thank you again.
@@RoosterFloyd Oh yeah, welcome to the wonderful world of adulthood and indentured servitude.
The other thing that occurred to me is that archaeology is a bit like medicine; specialisation is important.
Ideally you want to be that guy who can pick up a tiny shard of pottery and give an exact date to the entire layer of the dig. People like that are always in demand, but PhDs take many years during which you will be poor.
Not trying to put you off though. You will be working with some of the coolest people, going interesting places and university is a big step up from a job in telesales.
Definitely get a higher degree of some sort. :)
@@deceptivepanther I've been called a genius for so long the word has no meaning, I'm not sure it ever has, could be nothing more than honeyed words from people and a few lucky flukes on my part. Honesty is what I needed. Besides, if you did talk me out of it so easily then I don't think I would be cut out for it, in which case you would have saved me a lot of pain and heartache. However, I think it's worth a shot, I'll have to do a bit more investigating.
Completely seriously though... I can't whip and I've never found a hat I like the look of, they are all just so high, you know? I'm a smaller guy, it will look like I'm trying to sneak in a few inches. I don't know what to do about this part.
Heheh, sorry, I bet you get that often, but it's a classic. It takes stronger self-control than I know to resist such low hanging fruit.
For real though, thank you for your time. Decency, I wouldn't call it rare these days, I wouldn't really know, but I wish I could do more than say a simple thank you. It means a lot
The sound that that gladiolus made when it went back into the scabbard was horrible.
Wooden scabbard, probably un oiled. They aren't pretty, but they prevent binding.
@@jonsimpson6240 Sounded like brass on steel catching. I've never in my life heard metal on wood make that screech.
@@dr.lexwinter8604 could very well be the case, but with my Spatha it makes a similar sound and that is definitely a wood mouth on the scabbard.
Thank goodness you met guys who know their stuff. I’m researching the role of Cornwall and Devon in the Overlord operations, having spoken with a large number of these guys most are just in it for the bling and haven’t a clue
39:59 One wonders how many soldiers burst forth, ready for violence, at the sound of that whistle....
You’re so charismatic, i sit through all of your advertising
you know Lloyd is humble when he gets 1 million subscribers and doesn’t mention it
How he so casually says “Uh, Optio, can I borrow your blade a minute?” Is so perfect.
The late roman kit looks awesome. And looks a bit medieval.
Cheers mate - I was the chap in the scales!
The medevil age was roughly after the fall of the west
That was a really excellent Video. And fantastic that every person you spoke to really new his stuff! No dodging either "We really don't know". Very refreshing! 👍🏻
As Romans used to say "Veni, vidi, amavi!"
And I like that beige waistcoat
Would love a show or a movie with a detailed in-depth focus on these roman equipment and tactics. It's just so fascinating
I love it when people bring up how short the Roman Gladius was, because it speaks to how the Romans were so different from the rest of the Classical world. Every other civilization would want to put their biggest, most terrifying troops in front armed with the biggest, scariest weapons, mocking all the while those short Italians with their short swords and big shields, gingerly marching towards them.
Like a million little kitty kats are scratchin my balls
Grear video. I wish there were big reenactment events in my country too. A day in a Roman camp would really be splendid.
The Romans were an army, like any other.
There was a time when they were the best, like any army has the potential to be when they have money and power behind them, but it's fascinating to see people not just emulating that period but downfall period as well.
They were also practical and smart, apparently.
I also kinda wish to see an early Roman army now. You know, the rise of the Romans as well.
What a wonderful comment... It looks like it's saying something, yet actually ends up saying nothing.Amazing job, lad. Amazing.
@@mishmashmedley ?
I suspect that the late army was actually better overall than the high Imperial army, since it was forced to adapt to heavy cavalry and armies fielded by more organized kingdoms.
@@mishmashmedley I've never said anything in my life.
I don't know how much credit you get from commenters appreciating your "no edit" monalogues. You're pretty damn good at speaking quickly, articulately, and humorously all in one take
Suspicious elderly Romans? Well, I remember Chris, the Centurion of the Ermine Street Guard, from his appearance in the first season of Time Team in 1994... Just 26 years of service for the imperium...
ESG dates back to the early 70s I think
That was 40 minutes well spent. Really enjoyable content!
What happened to that suit of plate armor that you commissioned? It's been a few years already.
He's keeping it under wraps, so as to lull France into a false sense of security.
He'll unveil it on the day he launches his assault on Harfleur.