Simón Bolívar - Francisco de Miranda - Extra History - Part 2

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2016
  • 📜 History of Simón Bolívar, Part 2: When Napoleon conquered Spain, the Spanish colonies no longer had a clear leader to follow. Bolívar seized on this opportunity to promote his dreams of Venezuelan independence, but he stumbled from lack of experience. A man named Francisco de Miranda took control instead.
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Комментарии • 864

  • @chickensangwich97
    @chickensangwich97 7 лет назад +870

    So far this guy is like the epitome of the "revolutionary" character type. So very passionate, so very idealistic, and so very naive about what it takes to actually enact those lofty ideals.

    • @AlXstudios
      @AlXstudios 7 лет назад +12

      not for long

    • @thediethrower1803
      @thediethrower1803 5 лет назад +9

      @@DaDunge I mean it was kindof Napoleon's fault that he was constantly at war.

    • @irisflowering
      @irisflowering 4 года назад

      Ever heard of Hamilton?

    • @julianutanes3
      @julianutanes3 4 года назад +9

      @@irisflowering More like Jefferson, Hamilton was very pragmatic. Jefferson was super idealistic

    • @irisflowering
      @irisflowering 4 года назад

      @@julianutanes3 maybe

  • @connorrichardsonx5105
    @connorrichardsonx5105 7 лет назад +443

    that part when he's talking to the English foreign minister is like something straight out of a movie

    • @EinsiJo
      @EinsiJo 7 лет назад +3

      cue Luciano Michelini's Frolic.

    • @sharilshahed6106
      @sharilshahed6106 4 года назад +18

      more like an anime, that misstep would make for an epic cartoonish face fault.

  • @thecrb1579
    @thecrb1579 7 лет назад +1075

    this man is literally dorking his way through a revolution, I can't even believe

    • @jorgelotr3752
      @jorgelotr3752 4 года назад +43

      That's literally how every single revolution looks like when seen from the outside.

    • @richaragonzales1355
      @richaragonzales1355 4 года назад +11

      @@jorgelotr3752 "The swift changes of mass views and moods in an epoch of revolution thus derive, not from the flexibility and mobility of man’s mind, but just the opposite, from its deep conservatism. The chronic lag of ideas and relations behind new objective conditions, right up to the moment when the latter crash over people in the form of a catastrophe, is what creates in a period of revolution that leaping movement of ideas and passions which seems to the police mind a mere result of the activities of “demagogues.” "
      - Leon Trotsky

    • @jorgelotr3752
      @jorgelotr3752 4 года назад +6

      @@richaragonzales1355 I'm not saying otherwise. A revolution is by definition a sudden change in either a stagnant society or one that's spinning in the opposite direction. It's by that very nature that it's quite difficult for them to succeed unless they manage to acquire enough momentum to move society (or counteract the bad spin).
      I'm just saying that THECRB15 can't blame a revolutionary for having a lot of bad starts and long lull periods, since the actors in any revolution have to thread that same road until they finally manage to have a chance to success (mostly by luck and popular support).

    • @sharilshahed6106
      @sharilshahed6106 4 года назад +14

      @Sofia De La Torre I respect that Bolivar is your idol but don't let that get over your head enough to bash a youtube channel all for describing the events in cartoons. Game writers or not, they've been factually accurate as possible any bias on either side, without any definite good or bad guys unless the actions are that drastic. They even discuss the potential inaccuracies and derivations for narrative purposes in their lies episodes.

    • @thewizard7396
      @thewizard7396 3 года назад +8

      @pas las Bolivar was actually very intelligent.

  • @Wolf6119
    @Wolf6119 7 лет назад +465

    New Venezuelan Government: "Okay, you can go, but whatever you do, do not say this one thing to the British."
    Bolivar: "imma say it."
    Government: "Don't say it! And don't talk to this one dude in particular."
    Bolivar: "..."
    Government: "We mean it! Do NOT talk to him!"
    Bolivar: "imma talk to him"

  • @DuranmanX
    @DuranmanX 7 лет назад +952

    Sounds like it would make a great Assassin's Creed game

    • @Duke_of_Lorraine
      @Duke_of_Lorraine 7 лет назад +110

      to be great, have the game made by someone that isn't Ubisoft

    • @adventureinc1568
      @adventureinc1568 7 лет назад +14

      Damn right

    • @ZenoDLC
      @ZenoDLC 7 лет назад +17

      +Duke of Lorraine That would be impossible because of copyright reasons, unless Trump's rule made money worthless and so companies doesn't have to be so greedy anymore

    • @joinmarch76
      @joinmarch76 7 лет назад +17

      +Duke of Lorraine Excuse me, Sir Godfrey? I don't mean to be a bother, but I must ask again, are you a Time Lord like Walpole? If so, what were your travels like so far across the time stream?

    • @rexerexer66
      @rexerexer66 7 лет назад +28

      Exactly. I would love for an Assassin's Creed game to be about Latin American Revolution.

  • @williamheayn3760
    @williamheayn3760 7 лет назад +744

    I feel like this is going to end up being the story of how Simon Bolivar passionately sabotages himself and his dreams.

    • @Jamie-rh1sv
      @Jamie-rh1sv 7 лет назад +65

      William Heayn We can make a new meme! This will be hung on the wall of History, next to "It was Walpole" and "Why let (BLANK) get in the way of a good crusade?"

    • @LuccianoBartolini
      @LuccianoBartolini 7 лет назад +15

      Yeah, that's what happened in the end.

    • @Pocket-Calculator
      @Pocket-Calculator 7 лет назад +9

      William Heayn Pretty much, yeah.

    • @DreamerOfTheEnd
      @DreamerOfTheEnd 7 лет назад +30

      You are absolutely correct. Simon Bolivar had ambitious dreams and goals, but he was pretty terrible at executing them. That being said, it was probably for the best that Bolivar failed the first time around. After Bolivar failed at his first attempt at revolution (which also meant he lost all of his slaves and holdings), he completely dedicated his life to the Revolution and freeing Latin America from Spain. It's a big part of why Bolivar eventually took up the cause of shutting down the Slave Trade (because he lost all of his personal slaves and many of his new supporters were slaves) and allowed women to take up roles in the army.

    • @ferbthe2gadgetguy
      @ferbthe2gadgetguy 7 лет назад +4

      So we just forget about Justinian?

  • @PersonaSimon
    @PersonaSimon 7 лет назад +1380

    So Bolivar basically started Venezuela's independence because he derped out

    • @juanchox7
      @juanchox7 7 лет назад +44

      Persona Simon Yep, pretty much jajaja

    • @Ignapur
      @Ignapur 7 лет назад +15

      Persona Simon no he finish the fight Who miranda (ese flojo bastardo) can't end

    • @Healermain15
      @Healermain15 7 лет назад +10

      It sounds more like he started it in the first place.

    • @DreamerOfTheEnd
      @DreamerOfTheEnd 7 лет назад +48

      Pretty much. What Extra Credits didn't add in the video is that when Simon Bolivar saw the Coronation of Napoleon, he immediately decided that he wanted to be just like Napoleon and be his equal. It lead him to making some overambitious moves and over committing to the grand idea of freeing Latin America from Spain (without really asking people if they wanted to leave Spain in the first place).

    • @luisacosta1628
      @luisacosta1628 7 лет назад +13

      Telosa wow! yeah sure, he wanted to be like Napoleon......When he saw the coronation of Napoleon he immediately do hes oath on Rome
      you know why he does not mention that? Bcause is not true!!!

  • @VicHD
    @VicHD 7 лет назад +259

    Fast fact: Miranda's name is actually listed in the Arc de Triomphe in Paris.
    Out of the 660 Generals inscribed in the monument that served in the first french empire, 558 were French, one was German (Nicolas Luckner) and one was Venezuelan (Miranda).

    • @Valkenvr
      @Valkenvr 7 лет назад +28

      He also was involved in the American Revolution, I am surprised they didn't mention that.

    • @dinosaurfilms
      @dinosaurfilms 7 лет назад +8

      What about the other 100?

    • @VicHD
      @VicHD 7 лет назад +6

      DinosaurFilms - Maps Some names inscribed on the Arc de Triomphe are ambiguous due to notable individuals sharing the same last name. While most names are clearly honoring a particular officer, a few remain which are unclear.

    • @dinosaurfilms
      @dinosaurfilms 7 лет назад

      Ah, okay. I would expect some from Italy and Poland too, so that's why I asked.

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob 5 лет назад +3

      HadoukenDude & DinosaurFilms actually that difference is too round a number, i expected a typo so that the total would've been 560 or french would've been 658. ;-)

  • @KvaGram
    @KvaGram 7 лет назад +203

    The reading of the instruction papers and passport made my day.
    I have had a REALLY crappy day today, and that there saved it. Thank you.

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  7 лет назад +72

      Sorry to hear about your crappy day! Glad we could make it a little brighter.

    • @JJP-lb3ek
      @JJP-lb3ek 4 года назад +12

      That moment when you mess things up so badly, your blunder still helps to improve someones mood 2 centuries later xD

    • @Christopher-qq4dl
      @Christopher-qq4dl 9 месяцев назад

  • @samwolfenstein5239
    @samwolfenstein5239 7 лет назад +132

    I totally thought the man he'd meet would be Walpole.

    • @samlund8543
      @samlund8543 6 лет назад +3

      Oh, he’s definitely dead by this point...

    • @tec-jones5445
      @tec-jones5445 5 лет назад +7

      Don't worry, that bastard Walpole is behind this somehow

    • @ttry1152
      @ttry1152 3 года назад

      Walpole

  • @crazygarrett007
    @crazygarrett007 7 лет назад +416

    As my Spanish teacher taught me junta is pronounced more like hunta.

  • @Cekachev
    @Cekachev 7 лет назад +136

    9:42
    NEVER TRUST Lucius Malfoy!

  • @1blackone
    @1blackone 7 лет назад +17

    Yep. Bolivar's story definitely deserves a Netflix series

  • @voldlifilm
    @voldlifilm 7 лет назад +31

    That scene with the speech was pure brilliance. I couldn't stop laughing. I like this man!

  • @timothymclean
    @timothymclean 7 лет назад +265

    Simon does _not_ know how to politic, does he?

    • @LuccianoBartolini
      @LuccianoBartolini 7 лет назад +14

      Indeed, should he have let another one take the political lead (like Sucre or Urdaneta or Soublette) the Great Colombia would have been a success.

    • @fidmarcano5841
      @fidmarcano5841 7 лет назад +5

      +Lucciano Bartolini Great Colombia failed because they centralized the power so much, leaving Venezuelans out of the picture, and as Venezuelans were the most prepared fighters, there was little people in the central power could do to keep them from separating.

    • @LuccianoBartolini
      @LuccianoBartolini 7 лет назад +6

      Fid Marcano Yeah, that's why I said that The Great Colombia would have been better with Soublette, Urdaneta or Sucre, those guys knew how to govern a country.

    • @SidheKnight
      @SidheKnight 7 лет назад +13

      He went to the Donald Trump school of politics.
      "We're gonna be very very great and we will win. We will win. Believe me."

    • @DreamerOfTheEnd
      @DreamerOfTheEnd 7 лет назад +16

      It also probably didn't help that Simon Bolivar was pretty terrible about sharing power. His ego didn't allow him to really delegate power or train any successors, so when Bolivar was ready to pass the torch there wasn't anyone who could replace him or provide much leadership. Instead, it just collapsed into petty infighting. Bolivar was a brilliant general, but the size of his ego prevented him from making compromises or being a good politician.
      tl;dr Don't force all of your rivals out of power in a Revolution. It just fucks up things afterward when you actually start running a country.

  • @UnPuntoCircular
    @UnPuntoCircular 7 лет назад +794

    That time when you're Venezuelan, had mandatory history courses at primary and secondary school about Simon Bolivar, lived through Chavez' "Bolivarian revolution", had seen Bolivar's face (and name) in our currency all my life, had watched Libertador (the movie), AND STILL I didn't know many things you said in this video. In general, I don't consider myself ignorant, but faced with these two videos I realize that you can't really force anyone to learn anything. You can put Simon Bolivar on our books, on the names of our streets, parks, currency; you can put his name along the name of the country, you can transform his name in a legend, but never get someone to learn until they're ready to learn, want to learn or until they casually find a video of a YT channel they're subscribed to... I don't feel bad for my ignorance about Simon Bolivar and I'm not sure if I should feel bad for that... (I can only hear the bell *shame* *shame*)

    • @WannabeCanadianDev
      @WannabeCanadianDev 7 лет назад +69

      My thinking is a lot of history classes are just bad, the teachers are not always sufficiently passionate to put in the work and research to make it presentable. EC does its best to be presentable; but also has some costs to it; just be aware that EC isn't the definitive depiction.

    • @UnPuntoCircular
      @UnPuntoCircular 7 лет назад +50

      Of course. Extra Credits would be like a quick summary to get you interested in the topic. That's what edutainment should do. Quick and entertaining to make the spark.

    • @gerardoalcala7877
      @gerardoalcala7877 7 лет назад +9

      same here brother, estaba apunto de postear un comentario similar y te me adelantaste. No podría estar más de acuerdo contigo.

    • @gfrewqpoiu
      @gfrewqpoiu 7 лет назад +4

      Ever, the videos you illustrate for MinuteEarth have done the same thing for me many times. You got me interested in Biology eventhough I thought it was incredibly boring in school. Same with Extra Credits and History. Thank you so much for all the work you put into your illustrations.

    • @UnPuntoCircular
      @UnPuntoCircular 7 лет назад +10

      gfrewqpoiu thank you! illustrating for MinuteEarth has also had a similar effect on me. I now walk around looking at leaves, and flowers and plants and wondering how they got so complex and specialized. Then, I crash into a tree or another person xD

  • @MostDogeChannel
    @MostDogeChannel 7 лет назад +94

    If you guys are doing a series on Bolivar I would highly recommend making a series on Jose San Martin. He achieved freedom for Argentina and was a a key factor in the success of Latin American independence. Not to mention that his personal story before and after the war would be great material.

    • @isillor529
      @isillor529 7 лет назад +3

      too similar to this series in nature. if they covered everybody connected to any revolution in history they would never cover those other more significant events.

    • @MostDogeChannel
      @MostDogeChannel 7 лет назад +11

      jim gordon They've had lots of series focused on generals, he is a totally different man and he is honestly super interesting, I would really recommend searching for him.

    • @leafMontilla
      @leafMontilla 7 лет назад

      jim gordon I see where you're coming from, but if enough people want to hear more about revolution histories, then these may very well BE the more important stories. I for one DO want to learn about Jose San Martin. If you wanna hear other stories though, this is the place to let it be known :) go for it!

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 7 лет назад

      You need to become a patron and suggest that for vote, that is how the topics are decided. But I do not know if that would win a vote since it is not well known.

    • @MostDogeChannel
      @MostDogeChannel 7 лет назад

      Sara Samaletdin Perhaps that is how I would have to, but it's not a real option.

  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  7 лет назад +860

    Simón Bolívar jumps at a grand opportunity to advocate Venezuelan independence... and faceplants miserably.

    • @LuccianoBartolini
      @LuccianoBartolini 7 лет назад +11

      1.- Extra Credits didn't included the Esequibo in the Venezuelan map, the Esequibo is part of the Venezuelan territory, add it please.
      2.- si-MÓN bo-LI-var.
      3.- This video doesn't explain that The First republic basically threw everything to Miranda when the cause was already lost, Miranda surrendered the Republic because it was a total defeat and it was better to surrender before being completely captured by the Spanish. Bolívar didn't understood this and betrayed Miranda (who was right about Bolívar fighting like a rookie who didn't understood what an army was or how to command) and the venezuelans, to this day, still don't forgive Bolívar for betraying Miranda (the Idea of the Great Colombia came from Miranda, not Bolívar).
      4,. The New Republic wasn't meant from Rich for the Rich, the first republic was meant so the Venezuelans were finally freed form Spain (with most of the states agreeing with it) and they even tried to abolish slavery (but, since they would never get away with it, they could only abolish slave trade), they also made the law so the indians could be treated as equals under the constitution (if you don't believe me, read the Constitution of 1811).
      The only reason the black people stayed loyal to Spain was because they didn't understood what they were fighting for and fought against the ones that were supposed to help them.
      P.D: Please, explain a bit more about Miranda in lies, he was one of the most awesome Venezuelans in our entire history and you made him look like an idiot here.

    • @ethansmall581
      @ethansmall581 7 лет назад +1

      Wow I can't believe you don't have a comment yet

    • @dizzypandapoke
      @dizzypandapoke 7 лет назад

      nope!

    • @ZombieNubify
      @ZombieNubify 7 лет назад

      Why though? I understand he wanted independence for his country, but he crossed over from wanting independence to completely nonnegotiable.

    • @LuccianoBartolini
      @LuccianoBartolini 7 лет назад +4

      Jackson Huffstutler Miranda had no other choice, when Miranda got the chance to lead the country, it was already lost.
      Miranda tried to make a defense fight but Bolívar lost a very crucial fight (the one were he was shot at) and from that point on, it was a slow defeat, so Miranda decided to conceit defeat so they could all have a chance to run away and try again later.
      Bolívar didn't understood this (he wanted a war to death and to fight until the last man) and thought that Miranda was a traitor, so Bolívar decided to give up Miranda to the Spanish (something that Venezuela still doesn't forgives).
      If you have any other questions, you can ask, there are many details Extra Credits left behind (like how the First Republic was aimed to be free of slaves and had on its constitution that indians were going to have equal rights under it).

  • @marceloizukawa5347
    @marceloizukawa5347 7 лет назад +28

    come on! Miranda was so underated here. you could make a whole episode about him

  • @anttibjorklund1869
    @anttibjorklund1869 7 лет назад +110

    That picture of Bolivar on the ship with shades on... that needs to be on a shirt!

    • @robertwalpole360
      @robertwalpole360 7 лет назад +21

      I would buy that shirt.

    • @tams805
      @tams805 7 лет назад +9

      Of course you would. You also probably try to flog us all some knock-off ones that exist only in theory.
      We're on to you Walpole. We're on to you!

    • @robertwalpole360
      @robertwalpole360 7 лет назад +16

      Tams80 Your words wound me. I might be a time-travelling Prime Minister but I wouldn't do anything ignoble against the subscribers and followers of Extra Credits.

    • @tanukioh
      @tanukioh 7 лет назад

      Robert Walpole, how exactly are you traveling time by the way?

    • @robertwalpole360
      @robertwalpole360 7 лет назад +10

      Demis Harper I have a collection of time machines at my disposal, however my personal favourite is my Tardis.

  • @chinmaykaranjkar9715
    @chinmaykaranjkar9715 5 лет назад +4

    I'm a huge fan of this narration... So witty and sarcastic "the type of monumental genius only he was capable of"😂😂😂... And the graphics just amplify the effect even more... Hats off!

  • @Conkergs
    @Conkergs 7 лет назад +6

    Como venezolano y fiel seguidor de extra credits estos episodios son toda una maravilla, ver la historia de tu pais contada desde otro angulo siempre es divertido
    As a Venezuelan and loyal extra credits fan, these episodes os EH are wonderful, its always nice to see your own country's history told from a different perspective
    Great Work

  • @Aannan
    @Aannan 4 года назад +5

    I don't know how you guys at EC do it, but you always get me so caught up in your heroes. I find myself cheering them on, willing them to succeed in whatever historical endeavour they have bound themselves up in. Kudos to you for setting fire to the imagination the way you do.

  • @miguelinop
    @miguelinop 7 лет назад +5

    As a Venezuelan I'm enjoying this series of videos, hope you keep it up.

  • @ZanraiKid
    @ZanraiKid 7 лет назад +51

    So this story suddenly became the political subplot to Berserk, where Bolivar is Guts and Miranda is Griffith.

    • @MegaBichiX
      @MegaBichiX 7 лет назад +16

      dont worry, Bolivar gets a hold on the gigant sword on the second act

  • @mvaliente2001
    @mvaliente2001 7 лет назад +15

    Francisco de Miranda was also a very notable man. He fought in the Independence War of America and the French Revolution. While he was absent of France, he was accused of betray the French Revolution in a time where madam Guillotine made a lot people lost their head. Nevertheless, he came back to be judged and was declared innocent. It's rumoured that he had an affair with Catherine the Great, and he brought the tricolor, the flag that is used now in a form or another by Venezuela, Colombia and Ecuador.

  • @brycekirk9973
    @brycekirk9973 7 лет назад +1

    I've watched all the Extra History episodes to this one in about 8 months. They're all great, but I've noticed a lot of improvements throughout, the biggest one being the storytelling; setting the stage, humanizing the characters, building the climax... top notch job guys, thanks 👌

  • @Codie-el2di
    @Codie-el2di 7 лет назад +6

    OMG thank you I love extra history! I literally binge watched it for the last week.

  • @nickg4564
    @nickg4564 7 лет назад +2

    Thanks Extra credits for this awesome piece of history, this channel never ceases to amaze me with information that is out of the box and out of the ordinary from what society considers to be popular. I've now learned about so many great men and women i would have not known about otherwise and as a Colombian american, learning about this man is truly awesome.

  • @ModelOmegaForReal
    @ModelOmegaForReal 7 лет назад +80

    Oh boy this "Joon-tah" thing is going to be big in the Lies episode...

    • @PokeDude1995
      @PokeDude1995 7 лет назад +14

      Naw, they don't go over small pronounciation mistakes like that.

    • @Healermain15
      @Healermain15 7 лет назад +16

      The flags on the other hand...

    • @Lexender
      @Lexender 6 лет назад +2

      1 year later but I hope it is (I'll find out when I finish watching lol).
      That and "Boulevar"

    • @aerial11
      @aerial11 5 лет назад +3

      And "Seemon". The accents are there for a reason, please use them, thank you very much.

    • @jesusagelvis4917
      @jesusagelvis4917 4 года назад

      Junta

  • @elijahblaugnelson6739
    @elijahblaugnelson6739 7 лет назад +1

    Was arguing with my family and took a break to watch this, cooled me down very well. 10/10

  • @crlsmllnv89
    @crlsmllnv89 7 лет назад +8

    Something for Lies: that stronghold of 9:33 was THE stronghold, the Saint Philip Castle of Puerto Cabello, which had the arsenal of the Republic. Miranda was convinced that after the loss of almost all the weapons and gunpowder deposits held at Puerto Cabello there was no reason to continue the fight so he started talks with Monteverde, the Spanish commander.

  • @inirlan
    @inirlan 7 лет назад +141

    And... the british flag shown at 1:55 and 6:30 is the wrong one, since by that time the current flag had been in use since 1801.
    Keep up the streak! I'm waiting for the promised version with the Welsh Dragon on it! ;)

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  7 лет назад +91

      Dragons are awesome, therefore, every flag should just have nothing but dragons on it.

    • @dawsonanderson9230
      @dawsonanderson9230 7 лет назад +8

      Extra Credits I concur with this statement

    • @hagamapama
      @hagamapama 7 лет назад +14

      I still favor the approach proposed in one of the comment threads where all flags just are white rectangles with "TOTALLY HISTORICALLY ACCURATE FLAG" written across them for a couple episodes, until people calm down about relatively unimportant details.

    • @YoHoOMirster
      @YoHoOMirster 7 лет назад +6

      it's always the British flag.
      it's always the British flag.

    • @YoHoOMirster
      @YoHoOMirster 7 лет назад

      o

  • @weldonwin
    @weldonwin 7 лет назад +9

    Wow, by the looks of it, Miranda had FABULOUS Hair

  • @FeyTheBin
    @FeyTheBin 5 лет назад +1

    This episode is quite packed with intrigue.

  • @fisstaschek
    @fisstaschek 7 лет назад +12

    You're really good at those comic moments

  • @Hipoptrofobia
    @Hipoptrofobia 5 лет назад +2

    miranda deserves his own series!!

  • @tsancio
    @tsancio 7 лет назад +3

    This is a real break from the way they teach Simon Bolívar here in Venezuela, which is low on politics but high on military achievement. Keep up the great work!

  • @RespawnM
    @RespawnM 7 лет назад

    I only got out of bed this early in hopes that the new episode of ECH was out! thanks guys! :)

  • @imaenglishman5471
    @imaenglishman5471 5 лет назад +1

    This is the first time I have ever heard about this guy, thanks from UK.

  • @ScabiousGarde
    @ScabiousGarde 7 лет назад +1

    It's nice to have this to go along with Mike Duncan's series, which is just wrapping up this topic.

  • @adrianmatteo
    @adrianmatteo 7 лет назад +1

    This series is great. Better job at explaining this than my history teachers. We are taught that Bolivar was great and near perfect, this puts him in perspective, he was a great man but he also had to learn the hard way.

  • @andresjackson9367
    @andresjackson9367 7 лет назад

    thank you i never completly understood the history of my country and bolivar i have to say you make it sound easier to believe since what they though me was that bolivar was perfect and was just suppresed thank you

  • @danielarevalo6222
    @danielarevalo6222 4 года назад +1

    great work. I enjoyed it thank you!

  • @CATboss001
    @CATboss001 7 лет назад +14

    5:50 LUCIAS MALFOY?
    WALPOLE?
    OUR LORD ADMIRAL YI HIMSELF?

  • @kuroneko4447
    @kuroneko4447 7 лет назад +2

    I love this series.

  • @barcapuyol5
    @barcapuyol5 7 лет назад +8

    I have a comment from my known history as a Venezuelan and Spanish citizen. Miranda did not die as bad as you say. He was held prisoner in a VIP prison. He was considered still and important person and therefore could not be held in any sloppy prison. If you notice his portrait in La Carraca he had many commodities that were unthinkable for a commoner: Books, a bed, pillows, a night table, no chains, etc. You must understand the time in which these events take place, at that time a common prisoner was shackled and all he could have was the floor.
    cienciaconciencia.org.ve/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/francisco-miranda-en-la-carraca1896.jpg

  • @mbm8572
    @mbm8572 7 лет назад

    Thanks for the video!

  • @leonardoguerrero1347
    @leonardoguerrero1347 5 лет назад

    BARBARO gracias. esta completamente basado en los hechos .. Gran sinopsis

  • @Razzer666
    @Razzer666 7 лет назад

    Love the new intro credit!

  • @JediAutobotX
    @JediAutobotX 7 лет назад +1

    LOL! What an incredible story! Man do I love these videos! :D

  • @sa3eeda610
    @sa3eeda610 5 лет назад +1

    Omg, you posted this on my birthday

  • @rogerpaesani5415
    @rogerpaesani5415 7 лет назад +52

    Actually, Miranda capituladed because Bolívar lost a very important battle by dragging troops to an unimportant location wich just happens to be the one Bolívar was in. Miranda surrendered to avoid a slaugther and Bolívar was the one to convince the Junta to ditch Miranda, you guys should do a little bit more reseach on Miranda, he was an expert commander, unlike the little glory hound called Bolívar

    • @LuccianoBartolini
      @LuccianoBartolini 7 лет назад +2

      Indeed.

    • @arhambliss8606
      @arhambliss8606 7 лет назад +3

      Luck favors the dumb and in his defense Miranda betrayed Bolivar by not repaying the favor that Bolivar did for him meaning money for the new political party they made and by supporting him in his ventures.

    • @rogerpaesani5415
      @rogerpaesani5415 7 лет назад +5

      arham bliss Miranda never asked form money, it was the junta that did. Miranda was wealty too

    • @enriquemartinez8350
      @enriquemartinez8350 7 лет назад +18

      My mother is an historian that once worked in the Venezuelan Academy of History before Chavez took over, according to the military historians that she knew Miranda and Bolivar had the opposite sets of abilities.
      Miranda was a superb field commander and could win battles easily but he had trouble with handling the whole war effort.
      Meanwhile Bolivar was a poor field commander who kept trying to shove cavalry charges where they didn't belong but was an excellent war strategist that had little trouble with handling the bigger picture.
      Also, my mom once saw a letter telling Miranda that the Americans couldn't afford his services for the revolution.

    • @adanc1126
      @adanc1126 4 года назад

      Miranda sold out to the Spains

  • @davidalesia6881
    @davidalesia6881 7 лет назад +2

    Just, thank you. I've always wanted to learn this part of Latin American history.

  • @Evildood89
    @Evildood89 7 лет назад

    This bring me some grade school memories, I lived in venezuela until my 16th birthday, and the story, philosophy and name of Simón Bolivar is greatly important in schools.

    • @lolmandos
      @lolmandos 7 лет назад

      Did you leave venezuela because of the current state of the country?

    • @Evildood89
      @Evildood89 7 лет назад

      Mandos Aldmer indeed

  • @heliosdelsol
    @heliosdelsol 7 лет назад +1

    I love the animation you guys do, It's so funny! I wish history classes were taught like this. I think way more kids would be much more interested if they were. I myself enjoy history regardless, even if it's just a boring lecture. Lol

  • @Sleatertr
    @Sleatertr 7 лет назад +2

    It's probably the first time I feel how little time these guys have to sort things out :-D

  • @nephileonardo4822
    @nephileonardo4822 7 лет назад +2

    Hi Extra Credits....you videos are very entertaining.

  • @akrybion
    @akrybion 7 лет назад +86

    Why did England as Spains ally against Napoleon grant an enemy of the state as Miranda refuge? Were the nations still at odds or did Spain simply never bother to ask England to hand him over?

    • @AegixDrakan
      @AegixDrakan 7 лет назад +59

      The spanish were probably more concerned with Napoleon's troops kicking their asses to worry about Miranda. XD

    • @williambouet7872
      @williambouet7872 7 лет назад +44

      Miranda had already gone to Great Britain before the Peninsula war, and before then Spain was an enemy of Great Britain because of their alliance with France. After ? Probably forgot, also he was an asset for bartering with the Spanish.

    • @labrynianrebel
      @labrynianrebel 7 лет назад +14

      Well Spain and England were only allies because Napoleon stabbed Spain in the back. Common temporary enemy and so on.

    • @fidmarcano5841
      @fidmarcano5841 6 лет назад +3

      Quite late but I'm re watching the series and found your comment.
      The thing is Miranda had already tried to bring independence before* and he did so with the help of British forces, they got To Venezuela in a ship called the Leander, but they failed.
      Still they knew that if they had to fight Spain in the future, they could count in him, who had already fought both in the French and the American revolutions and knew Venezuela, a place that the British wanted as the key to control the north of the south American continent and the Caribbean sea. (They kept trying to control Venezuela even in the 20th century, with blockades and invasions but failed every time, they only got modern Guyana because they teamed with the Americans and Russians in a rigged trial where Venezuela didn't have representation).
      *Miranda is the creator of the idea of Colombia (now known as Colombia the greater) and the tricolour flag, but t it was Bolivar the one that executed it.

    • @enchantressdeath1289
      @enchantressdeath1289 6 лет назад +5

      Spain and Britain's alliance was very tenuous at best. Spain had been allied with France until Napoleon had turned against them. So Britain was probably counting on future hostility with Spain, so they wanted to weaken Spain. That's why they tolerated Bolivar's antics as well. The British didn't care if the Venezuelan junta really wanted independence deep down in the long run, so long as they gave lip service to Spain, at least for the duration of the war.

  • @RoboBoddicker
    @RoboBoddicker 7 лет назад +65

    Extra Credits, I love you, but JOOnta? JOONTA?? Come on!!!

    • @IONATVS
      @IONATVS 7 лет назад +10

      both /ˈhʊntə/ and /ˈdʒʌntə/ are considered acceptable pronunciations in English, with the english jay sound being more common the farther away from Spanish-speaking territories the speakers get, and as a linguistic descriptivist, I can't fault people for choosing to fully assimilate a loanword into their native tounge's phonetic structure...but as a Californian I agree that it hurts the ears to hear a word of Spanish origin mangled so badly by English speakers

    • @RoboBoddicker
      @RoboBoddicker 7 лет назад +1

      IONATVS I have never heard anyone say "joonta". The dictionary says it was the original English pronunciation in the 17th century, but in modern times we updated to saying "hoonta".
      Descriptivism is nice and all, But when it comes to pronouncing foreign words, I think it's best to get as close to the original word as English phonemes will allow.

    • @IONATVS
      @IONATVS 7 лет назад

      I have occasionally when listening to east coast or british media. And while I personally prefer to pronounce loanwords as closely to their origin as is pronounceable, and English allows for such, assimilating words based on their spelling instead of their pronunciation is quite common, especially among languages that use the same alphabet. Junta in particular is just the Spanish and Portuguese cognate equivalent to English's "junction" (both from the latin past participle juncta, "joined"), so pronouncing it like junction is not that out of place, even if it sounds weird to my ears and yours

    • @RoboBoddicker
      @RoboBoddicker 7 лет назад

      IONATVS That's all fine and good. But let's get down to brass tacks here: I think James didn't know how to pronounce the word, and he fucked it up. And he should know that I'm disappointed! ;)

    • @talltroll7092
      @talltroll7092 7 лет назад +2

      Perhaps that's so, but you should hear how badly nearly every other language group mangles English loanwords to native ears too. Especially as a native speaker of the Queens' English, I assure you, it is sometimes pretty painful :)

  • @alfredozcv
    @alfredozcv 7 лет назад

    hi im from venezuela. i loved this video and cant wait for part 3.

  • @Mandrake42
    @Mandrake42 7 лет назад +1

    Haha! The bit with the British emissary was hilariously done.

  • @airmanon7213
    @airmanon7213 7 лет назад +1

    This is getting interesting!

  • @cinara5037
    @cinara5037 7 лет назад

    when your fav youtuber teaches you your own history, saludos de Chile 😀😀

  • @Frexican54
    @Frexican54 7 лет назад +32

    Didn't Bolivar technically fight for Gran Colombia's independence, which is composed of modern day Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, and Panama?

    • @fidmarcano5841
      @fidmarcano5841 7 лет назад +16

      Technically yes... But as the independence of the Great Colombia was forged mostly by Venezuelans, they started to do so by their country.

    • @Pocket-Calculator
      @Pocket-Calculator 7 лет назад

      Walter Johnson That was later. I hope they don't gloss over the fact that it was Miranda's idea.

    • @DreamerOfTheEnd
      @DreamerOfTheEnd 7 лет назад +7

      Venezuela is the country that's the most attached to Simon Bolivar and it's technically where he lived, so it's easier to explain "Simon Bolivar is from Venezuela" than "Simon Bolivar formed a ambitious republic composed of most of northern South America, but it collapsed from petty infighting into Venezuela, Colombia and Ecuador." There's also the problem that when Gran Columbia was formed, not all of its future inhabitants were freed from Spanish control, so most of the Gran Colombian government was staffed by Venezuelans (with the agreement to re-elect and re-negotiate all government positions in 10 years to theoretically allow everyone to have equal membership). Gran Colombia was largely started by Venezuelans, run by Venezuelans, and its founding leader was Venezuelan. It's also a big part of why Venezuela is the most interested in the idea of reforming Gran Columbia (even though Ecuador and Columbia have almost no interest in the idea).

    • @Frexican54
      @Frexican54 7 лет назад

      Telosa Thank you, that was very informative

    • @mvaliente2001
      @mvaliente2001 7 лет назад +3

      It's a little bit complex. During that time, bot the Capitanía General of Venezuela, and the Viceyalty of New Granada (what's currently Colombia) were fighting for their independences. A lot of people fought for both Nueva Granada and Venezuela. After they got their independence, they form the Gran Colombia, with the inclusion of the the current Ecuador, Peru and Panama.

  • @afterbangerz
    @afterbangerz 2 года назад

    I would enjoy seeing more dates in the video, for example in the corner there could be a small print date of when the person as crowned or certain things happen. Great videos though!

  • @thugnomics123
    @thugnomics123 2 года назад

    Thanks!

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  Год назад

      Thank you for helping support our channel and the amazing people that work here!

  • @kornetbeef
    @kornetbeef 7 лет назад +1

    I stay awake very late just to watch this, now I can sleep.

  • @MrDenis231
    @MrDenis231 5 лет назад +2

    i'm laugh so hard at the picture with desk and "england and spain are allies"

  • @PedroRagazzi
    @PedroRagazzi 7 лет назад +2

    I freaking loved how Simón simply derped into revolution and independence to Latin America

  • @mureithikivuti
    @mureithikivuti 5 лет назад +1

    ''And in the end, money won''.
    So true

  • @danmenard6917
    @danmenard6917 7 лет назад +48

    Come on guys, it's pronounced hoonta

    • @Wolf6119
      @Wolf6119 7 лет назад +17

      Hoonta, Seemon, and Boleevar. Gonna be a lot of pronunciation to cover in the Lies episode of this one.

  • @prashantchaudhary2569
    @prashantchaudhary2569 7 лет назад +1

    u made history a comedy ! good work

  • @guillermozentenogumucio945
    @guillermozentenogumucio945 7 лет назад +3

    I live in Bolivia and we see Simon Bolivar as a wise general who fought fiercely for all the bolivarian nations, which include- Venezuela, Colombia, Equador , Peru, Bolivia

    • @LuccianoBartolini
      @LuccianoBartolini 7 лет назад +2

      Because, by the time he got to liberate Nueva Granada, Quito and both Higher and lower Perú, he had all the experience to be an actually good general.

  • @cquiroz7874
    @cquiroz7874 6 лет назад

    Great job! I always love what you put out. Just a little thing: it's pronounced "who-nta". Js in Spanish have that "H" sound like "Jose" and the English word "have".

  • @sterbebett
    @sterbebett 7 лет назад +2

    To all of those complaining abut the pronuntiation of "junta" in this video:
    Si ustedes saben como se pronuncia, para que usar un potencial comentario de felicitacion en algo tan tonto como la pronunciacion de una letra?
    Tremendo vid... oops...
    Awesome series of videos guys, keep up the fantastic job.

  • @Rairiky
    @Rairiky Год назад

    As Venezuelan Bolivar is a bit of a weird topic b/c it's taught a lot in school,but all is very surface level until you give it context and find out he was an unbelievable writer and speaker and one of the best military leaders ever

  • @alex.thedeadite
    @alex.thedeadite 7 лет назад

    So many interesting ivints happened in history.

  • @mini2239
    @mini2239 7 лет назад +1

    Him giving the foreign minister his instructions was very much like when someone gets it wrong in ace attorney.

  • @alexbrown7890
    @alexbrown7890 7 лет назад

    Please do one on the life of the union general John T. Wilder. He fought during the civil war and his life is a great story

  • @pablodonner5213
    @pablodonner5213 7 лет назад

    hope you can do at least one episode on Juan jose de san martín, he was probably one of bolivar greatest ally in the independence war

  • @Luxludum23
    @Luxludum23 7 лет назад +9

    I like how you write "Carlos IV" instead of Charles IV but leave Ferdinand instead of "Fernando".

  • @Faerindel
    @Faerindel 7 лет назад +5

    So he went rambling about the oppression of a colony to a minister of another empire that wasn't yet over with a major colony getting their independence, expecting he would be sympathetic?
    I like the guy.
    Btw, would they know what a massive asshole would be Fernando VII as a king they'd have revolted straight away.

  • @anotherwesley7661
    @anotherwesley7661 6 лет назад

    my dude Miranda looks like a gundam wing villain and I dig it

  • @pizzadesucubo
    @pizzadesucubo 9 месяцев назад

    Que brutal!

  • @ArturBriones
    @ArturBriones 7 лет назад

    yunta sounds funny xD but thanks for the video as always

  • @MrAlexkyra
    @MrAlexkyra 7 лет назад +97

    That's not how your pronounce 'junta'. Otherwise great video

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  7 лет назад +61

      We have a reputation to maintain when it comes to mispronunciation! Sometimes we'll even mispronounce common words just to keep everyone on their toes.

    • @andersonandrighi4539
      @andersonandrighi4539 7 лет назад +1

      It is right if they are speaking portuguese.

    • @hagamapama
      @hagamapama 7 лет назад

      Not really, isn't the Porguguese more like "yunta?"

    • @alfredofortuna4361
      @alfredofortuna4361 7 лет назад +2

      You know you're mispronouncing Simón Bolívar's name too, right? Simón has an accent on the "o" and "Bolívar" has one on the "i". So it should be more like seeMON boLEEvar than SEEmon boliVAR.

    • @andersonandrighi4539
      @andersonandrighi4539 7 лет назад +2

      hagamapama no it is like they are saying. j have a "jay" sound.

  • @oliverhorn7884
    @oliverhorn7884 6 лет назад

    You should add poles whenever you ask a question

  • @ike_em_all
    @ike_em_all 7 лет назад

    Omg it's almost a whole half hour!!! Where's the next Episode????

  • @DagoCazador
    @DagoCazador 7 лет назад

    Are you planning on make a video about San Martin? It would be great =)

  • @Drilling4mana
    @Drilling4mana 6 лет назад

    Poor Miranda, remembered by history as such a traitor to revolution. He had his faults, but he was earnest and has one of the most fascinating life stories in history. The amount of famous elbows he rubbed with is staggering.

  • @JadeBlades098
    @JadeBlades098 7 лет назад +2

    I really wish you guys would include your sources, all of them, in proper format. Your videos are so great and I would love to quote your ones on video games in some of my essays, but my teachers would never let me if they see that you don't include sources on your history videos.

  • @heartlessmushroom
    @heartlessmushroom 5 лет назад +1

    Ya blew it, Simón. Ya blew it.

  • @09lowkey
    @09lowkey 4 года назад +1

    Ahhh yes, the treacherous character the story of revolution cannot do without.

  • @TheCommunistGamerTV
    @TheCommunistGamerTV 6 лет назад +1

    The "June-tah" pronunciation eats away at my brain!

  • @ricardokowalski1579
    @ricardokowalski1579 Год назад +1

    There is a lot left to be said about the fall of Puerto Cabello and Bolivar surrendering Miranda to the spanish

  • @Kwad_rat
    @Kwad_rat 7 лет назад

    Love the show. I was thinking is there a chance that in near future you'll take a look at another freedom fighter and revolutionist Andrzej Tadeusz Bonawentura Kościuszko?

  • @1987MartinT
    @1987MartinT 7 лет назад +1

    A piece of irony:
    Bolívar didn't consider handing Miranda over to the Royalists treachery. He believed that Miranda was the actual traitor and that he was simply getting rid of an unworthy leader. Bolívar actually refused to take the thanks offered by the Royalists in for his service, since he hadn't done it for them and accepting would by actual treason. He did take their offered passport to go into exile, but he planned to return.

  • @maurcd
    @maurcd 7 лет назад +8

    Hi guys, you have a mistake with the map your showing at 7:54. That's a map of Nueva Granada, or what it was later known as La Gran Colombia.
    Venezuela it's part of it, but Caracas had no authority over the rest of the regions.

    • @fidmarcano5841
      @fidmarcano5841 7 лет назад +2

      Caracas was an autonomous province by itself, Capital of the "Capitania general de Venezuela".