I dont understand why you have a few thumbs down for this vlog Chris. This is all the info you need in 1 video. Well done. Ive learned a few things about a few apps here.
That's what separates professional photographers from us amateurs......."work" When I worked full time in advertising our motto was always "plan your work and work your plan" which can apply to most anything you do. One of the things I always planned for was the unknown, so I always left a little downtime in my day to deal with the unexpected. Most of my photography is based on luck unless I'm photographing close to home. Usually when my wife and I travel, photography is not the main objective of our trips although for me it is important. However about the only thing I can control to some extent is "my" time. But I'm at the mercy of the gods as far as the weather conditions go. I have to deal with whatever the conditions are. So far I have to say I've been pretty lucky. However I can see where some of your planning tips can still apply. We like to go to Maine to do seascape and lighthouse photos but can't always control when we go. Knowing the hours of sunrise and sunset, angle of the sun, tide charts, etc. can still be used. It can help determine what area we may want to concentrate on while in Maine. Because the Maine coast is full of peninsulas the angle of the sun can be dramatically different depending where you are on any given peninsula. Sorry I guess I'm just rambling on along with my thought processes. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge, its made me realize that short term planning can be very beneficial as well as long term. Stay safe......I hope you can get out doing what you love soon.
You are absolutely right Peter about the only thing that you can control (to some extent) is our time. Planning in landscape photography for me is all about making the most of our time in the field. Maximising the chance that we are in the right place at the right time. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but over an extended period it has helped me get the shot I am after more often.
Nice vlog, did a training with the local photo club where I told them the same trics, planning is key. Knowing where you should park, when to leave home, knowing where the sun will be and what wind you will face. It`s more then just luck if you come home with nice photo :)
Great tips and information Chris. Hopefully all this strange period will soon end so you can put all that into practice. take care and thank you for sharing.
Planning is an hard job for me, but I'll try again. Living on a small island with a large population density isn't easy to plan without a strong human presence. Thanks for share !
Hi Riccardo - where do you live? The lakes can get pretty busy at times during the summer but I find if I am up for sunrise (which is as early as 04:30 in the summer) I have the place to myself.
@@ChrisSalePhoto Hi Cris, I live in Gran Canaria, Canary Islands, hard to reach the woods, no lakes, a lot of ocean 😁 ... when I can I make short trips to other islands, fortunately the costs of flights are really advantageous for us residents.
I'm a horrendous planner. Hence, I end up going to the same places repeatedly. This can negatively influence my creativity - and motivation. Since my area in Upstate NY is heavily wooded, I've been searching for more locations with open views. But it does take a good amount of sitting on some of these websites. I wish we had something comparable to OS Maps in the US. I do like the ClearSky website - especially for cloud information. OK, no excuses now. Thanks Chris.
Hi mate - yeah, we are very lucky in the UK to have the OS maps, they are invaluable and I use them all of the time. I find most of my locations by studying the maps looking for interesting topological features. Such a shame there isn't something similar for the US.
Wow, that was exhausting Chris, I never thought about all the work involved to set up a shoot however I found your first tip really useful, I always make the mistake of choosing a location then look at the weather, OS map and TPE then have to amend my chosen position because the sunrise or sunset was in the wrong direction! So from now on I will look at TPE first for the sun direction and only THEN chose a location. Great tip, thanks. p.s. As you know, I am rubbish in the mornings and have a habit of bursting my van tyres on rocks Ha Ha! That’s why I love wild camping, small tent, bottle of red and a strong coffee, lovely! Hope you and Mrs S. Are keeping safe and well, hope to meet up again after lockdown. John
Hi John - I find if I look for a location before working out the position of the sun it is never where I want it. At the very least I look for east facing views for sunrise and west for sunset or north facing views for the summer and south facing views for the winter.
Hello Chris, another great video with some good information on how to plan a shoot. Having to wait a bit longer to put it into practice. Thanks and stay safe 😷
My pleasure Hugo - are you based in the UK? From your name alone I am guessing you're in the Netherlands? I only ask because I was wondering if you have anything like the OS Maps.
@@ChrisSalePhoto Yes i'm from the Netherlands, unfortunately no maps for the Netherlands but, but like one time visit the Lake districts when it is safe to travel again.
Great insight! A very thorough explanation, Chris. I find your process to be fascinating, from your thought process to the level of detail. I hope lockdown ends for you soon!
@@ChrisSalePhoto Not as much as I would like to. I usually resemble a dog being distracted by squirrels 😂😂😂. But I have been planning a lot more the last few months
This is super helpful. I could envision myself living this kind of life, if I could make money from photography. I wish you well in your efforts to make this work for you.
Nice vlog as always Chris, some great tips in there, I'm getting alot of info from your lock down vlogs but can't wait to see you shooting in the field again when lockdowns over 👍
I am so pleased to here that Chris. I too am looking forward to getting out into the field again. Traditionally the summer is my least favourite season but you won't hear me complaining this year! :)
Hi Chris, many thanks for your effort putting this informative video together. Just one question. If time of travel is important to you why did you choose northern route? One from the South is almost half this long and shaves around 30-40 mins from your hiking time. You can find some parking spaces in Ulswater View Cottages area or worst case scenario park next to Ulswater Info Centre. As much as I like OS maps, not everything is there. For example part of this South route isn't marked, but using satellite view on Google maps you can easily see that the path is there and since it's an open access area no legal problems there. Anyway, many thanks for your video, keep the good work.
Hi mate - for me the northern route is much safer than the southern. I am not sure I would want to tackle some of the sections in the dark. Safety is always a higher priority for me than time.
Interesting stuff Chris, I tend to live in the loose plan and wing it camp, which allows for plenty of flexibility on the day! Sheffield Pike is a cracking location and if that goes wrong, dropping down onto Heron Pike is a great backup 😊
Hi Chris. I do try to plan and am getting better. I use photopills and try to use Google Earth. The problem I get is I know what time the sun rises/sets and the direction but with the mountains I have trouble working out when it breaks the skyline. Especially in winter as the sun stays low.
No doubt about it Rod there are some locations that are difficult to shoot in because of the surrounding hills. Buttermere, Thirlmere and Haweswater spring to mind. PhotoPills does have a feature that allows you to work out when the sun will be above the fells. I uses trigonometry to work out angles and stuff!
Very interesting Chris. I just tend to learn when the sunrise is and if I can make it, so be it. I’m more a moody, overcast type of guy anyway. So much more fun for me. It’s no secret our approach is different 😬😬
You are absolutely right about that mate. The other thing that I find about shooting in the morning is that it is far quieter and often a lot calmer. Important for me as I often like to shoot around the edges if the lakes and am looking for the reflections.
@@ChrisSalePhoto For mornings the added advantage is your travel ETA is more likely to be kept due to light traffic. Another important thing I learnt the hard way is to have an alternate shooting location in the same area planned (especially if you're travelling some distance and it's at a non-public property).
Good video with very practical tips. I’ll just need to find similar websites for my area. Sad hearing you talk about lockdown almost a year ago. Stay safe and healthy.
Some interesting tools in there Chris, thanks. OSMaps is awesome and I used to use Clear Outside as an astronomer! Possible idea for one of your vlogs - kit maintenance and storage. What do you do to clean it / keep it clean, how do you store it when not in use, etc. Just a thought. Stay safe.
Hi Dave - thanks for the suggestion. I not sure I am the best to talk about kit maintenance! My camera sensor is covered in muck. Probably time to send it away to be cleaned! :)
Hi Chris: I try to use both Photo Pills and TPE when planning my locations shoots, but I must admit I am not very good at either app. Maybe this could be a topic for a future video. I also use 500PX to do some preliminary scouting of an area because in most cases we are flying to a location and I want to be able to pre-visualize the shot and location to safe time. In many cases, we are on a tight time-frame so this can help me tremendously in determining what locations would be a priority for us. While I don't want to capture my own version of the location, it does help. Keep safe & cheers. . . Keith Pinn
Hi Keith - I tend to avoid 500px. I have the thing about being to overly influenced by other photographers. I follow very, very few local photographers on Instagram for that very reason.
Hi Chris: I agree with our comments regarding 500 PX and Instagram in general. I don’t use these sites when I am in my local area or even in our province but when you are spending thousands of dollars for travel it helps to inform our decisions on where we want to spend time. Unfortunately, not every area we want to go to is covered by great local You Tubers such as yourselves. Keep safe! Cheers, Keith
Some great tips Chris!!! I do use Google earth pro, to find a new location to shoot. I do especially like the 3d maps, so you can see how the view will be like!! Hope I can plan a trip to the lakes, early next year🤞🤞
Hi mate - I still haven't found the time to get my head around Google Earth. It's one of those things that I need to get to grips with. Got any advice?
@@ChrisSalePhoto It's really useful to scout out new locations, I do use it every time i'm going to visit a new country/ area. I think the best feature is that you can put a pin everywhere, even on a mountaintop and you will get a 360 degree 3D view from that point. Think that is really useful if you going to visit an area for the first time. You can even do a sunrise/set simulation, so you can see where the light wil hit the landscape.
Thanks for that, I have it on my phone and will often use the app instead of the web site because it is more convenient. If you look at the thumbnail for this video you can see TPE is on my phone. :)
Chris you should download google earth.. It gives you sun rise and sunset and where the light will fall on the ground so you can see where the best view point will be.
Thank you, another interesting video and a couple of helpful websites! Is wild camping actually allowed in the UK? It isn't in Holland.. Not sure if I would like it (probably not so much 🙈😂), but I can't try it eighter cause that could get very expensive.. The fine for wild camping is 140 euro here..
Hi Elly. That sucks that you can't wild camp in Holland. I would be thinking of moving to a country where you can wild camp. A shame because Holland is a beautiful country. Another great vlog Criss. 🎪
Hi Elly - wild camping in the UK isn't legal. However, in some areas it is tolerated. You are free to wild camp in many of our national parks. Here in the Lake District you can wild camp so long as you are above the highest dry stone wall. Unfortunately the number of people camping in places that they are not supposed to is on the increase.
Especially for new locations, I use a combination of TPE, PhotoPills, Google Earth, and Google Maps. OS map would be good for hiking information, but is it available for US locations or other nations? Thanks.
Sorry John, I believe that they are only available here in the UK. They are so useful for photographers. Great for finding interesting topographical features that might be worth exploring.
Hi Chris, I save a route in OS maps app & I have just checked it does give me an estimated time. So maybe you are not saving your route? Just a thought.
Chris I knew you were the organized type, you’ve proved yourself with this video. Lots of good thought provoking information. I’ve done a bit of planing myself, sometimes quite extensively, but it depends on the outing... Over the past year I’ve been thinking of acquiring an “off road” vehicle (two door Jeep) so as to better access the remote locations. Our MINI Cooperstown not the best for “off road” adventures. Typically here in Arizona good locations tend towards “remote” due to the fact that many “roads” are not paved but simply trails. I fully understand those early morning treks can be brutal, thus I’ve thought about a “teardrop” trailer as an alternative to driving hours in the dark or ground camping. Still in the research phase for both the Jeep and teardrop, mostly held up due to lockdown uncertainties etc. Here’s a US manufacturer teardrop I like for its large window ; vistabule.com a good place to watch the changing light. And a UK site for teardrops; www.teardroptrailers.co.uk I always enjoy your videos, and would someday like to meet you in person.
Chris Sounds like a plan. I work for an airline, thus my wife and I can travel inexpensively, and our list of places we’d like to visit isn’t gettin any shorter.
I dont understand why you have a few thumbs down for this vlog Chris. This is all the info you need in 1 video. Well done. Ive learned a few things about a few apps here.
Cheers Mike - it's all part of the game. I always get a few thumbs down in the first few hours after releasing a video.
This is such a helpful vlog. The website list looks invaluable. I intend improving my planning to try and match your high standards Chris!
Great informative video Chris. It’s good to know that you can become a good planner when it’s not your natural state!
I wouldn't say I was good at it Stephen but I have had too many wasted trips not to want to get better! :)
That's what separates professional photographers from us amateurs......."work" When I worked full time in advertising our motto was always "plan your work and work your plan" which can apply to most anything you do. One of the things I always planned for was the unknown, so I always left a little downtime in my day to deal with the unexpected. Most of my photography is based on luck unless I'm photographing close to home. Usually when my wife and I travel, photography is not the main objective of our trips although for me it is important. However about the only thing I can control to some extent is "my" time. But I'm at the mercy of the gods as far as the weather conditions go. I have to deal with whatever the conditions are. So far I have to say I've been pretty lucky. However I can see where some of your planning tips can still apply. We like to go to Maine to do seascape and lighthouse photos but can't always control when we go. Knowing the hours of sunrise and sunset, angle of the sun, tide charts, etc. can still be used. It can help determine what area we may want to concentrate on while in Maine. Because the Maine coast is full of peninsulas the angle of the sun can be dramatically different depending where you are on any given peninsula. Sorry I guess I'm just rambling on along with my thought processes. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge, its made me realize that short term planning can be very beneficial as well as long term. Stay safe......I hope you can get out doing what you love soon.
You are absolutely right Peter about the only thing that you can control (to some extent) is our time. Planning in landscape photography for me is all about making the most of our time in the field. Maximising the chance that we are in the right place at the right time. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but over an extended period it has helped me get the shot I am after more often.
Chris Sale Thank you again.
Nice vlog, did a training with the local photo club where I told them the same trics, planning is key. Knowing where you should park, when to leave home, knowing where the sun will be and what wind you will face. It`s more then just luck if you come home with nice photo :)
Great tips and information Chris. Hopefully all this strange period will soon end so you can put all that into practice. take care and thank you for sharing.
My pleasure John, fingers crossed it is all over soon.
Planning is an hard job for me, but I'll try again. Living on a small island with a large population density isn't easy to plan without a strong human presence. Thanks for share !
Hi Riccardo - where do you live? The lakes can get pretty busy at times during the summer but I find if I am up for sunrise (which is as early as 04:30 in the summer) I have the place to myself.
@@ChrisSalePhoto Hi Cris, I live in Gran Canaria, Canary Islands, hard to reach the woods, no lakes, a lot of ocean 😁 ... when I can I make short trips to other islands, fortunately the costs of flights are really advantageous for us residents.
Great advice as always Chris, Thanks for sharing.
My pleasure John
Thanks you for this video. I am doing some cloud study and have dug out my loyal old Silva compass and put it in my camera bag.
My pleasure Alan, good luck with the cloud study.
Thanks for the Info Chris, its always interesting to see how other photographers plan their trips.
My pleasure Andrew
Chris , great information
I'm a horrendous planner. Hence, I end up going to the same places repeatedly. This can negatively influence my creativity - and motivation. Since my area in Upstate NY is heavily wooded, I've been searching for more locations with open views. But it does take a good amount of sitting on some of these websites. I wish we had something comparable to OS Maps in the US. I do like the ClearSky website - especially for cloud information. OK, no excuses now. Thanks Chris.
Hi mate - yeah, we are very lucky in the UK to have the OS maps, they are invaluable and I use them all of the time. I find most of my locations by studying the maps looking for interesting topological features. Such a shame there isn't something similar for the US.
Wow, that was exhausting Chris, I never thought about all the work involved to set up a shoot however I found your first tip really useful, I always make the mistake of choosing a location then look at the weather, OS map and TPE then have to amend my chosen position because the sunrise or sunset was in the wrong direction! So from now on I will look at TPE first for the sun direction and only THEN chose a location. Great tip, thanks. p.s. As you know, I am rubbish in the mornings and have a habit of bursting my van tyres on rocks Ha Ha! That’s why I love wild camping, small tent, bottle of red and a strong coffee, lovely! Hope you and Mrs S. Are keeping safe and well, hope to meet up again after lockdown. John
Hi John - I find if I look for a location before working out the position of the sun it is never where I want it. At the very least I look for east facing views for sunrise and west for sunset or north facing views for the summer and south facing views for the winter.
Hello Chris, another great video with some good information on how to plan a shoot. Having to wait a bit longer to put it into practice. Thanks and stay safe 😷
Hopefully it won't be too much longer Malcolm.
Great advice Chris, i will take a look at the sites you talk about in your video. Thanks for sharing
My pleasure Hugo - are you based in the UK? From your name alone I am guessing you're in the Netherlands? I only ask because I was wondering if you have anything like the OS Maps.
@@ChrisSalePhoto Yes i'm from the Netherlands, unfortunately no maps for the Netherlands but, but like one time visit the Lake districts when it is safe to travel again.
Great presentation Chris, this will become part of my go to reference library.
Good to hear Jerry, glad it was of use.
You made my day! I also detest wild camping. You know I did it will I was in the U.S. Army and I decided at that time that I would NEVER do it again.
It's awful isn't it Erich! I know some people love it and I am very happy for them but it's just not for me.
Great insight! A very thorough explanation, Chris. I find your process to be fascinating, from your thought process to the level of detail. I hope lockdown ends for you soon!
Hey Bobby, thanks mate. Do you do much planning yourself?
@@ChrisSalePhoto Not as much as I would like to. I usually resemble a dog being distracted by squirrels 😂😂😂. But I have been planning a lot more the last few months
This is super helpful. I could envision myself living this kind of life, if I could make money from photography. I wish you well in your efforts to make this work for you.
Thanks very much Scott
Nice vlog as always Chris, some great tips in there, I'm getting alot of info from your lock down vlogs but can't wait to see you shooting in the field again when lockdowns over 👍
I am so pleased to here that Chris. I too am looking forward to getting out into the field again. Traditionally the summer is my least favourite season but you won't hear me complaining this year! :)
Great video, thank you
Hi Chris, many thanks for your effort putting this informative video together. Just one question. If time of travel is important to you why did you choose northern route? One from the South is almost half this long and shaves around 30-40 mins from your hiking time. You can find some parking spaces in Ulswater View Cottages area or worst case scenario park next to Ulswater Info Centre. As much as I like OS maps, not everything is there. For example part of this South route isn't marked, but using satellite view on Google maps you can easily see that the path is there and since it's an open access area no legal problems there. Anyway, many thanks for your video, keep the good work.
Hi mate - for me the northern route is much safer than the southern. I am not sure I would want to tackle some of the sections in the dark. Safety is always a higher priority for me than time.
Interesting stuff Chris, I tend to live in the loose plan and wing it camp, which allows for plenty of flexibility on the day!
Sheffield Pike is a cracking location and if that goes wrong, dropping down onto Heron Pike is a great backup 😊
Twa-Dags Photography I’m with you Mike. I keep planning very basic as Chris knows.
Yeah, Sheffield Pike is great. Yet to make it up there for sunrise but hopefully I'll be able to do that once lockdown is over.
@@ChrisSalePhoto well the great thing about the fells is that they'll all still be there for us 😁
A+!!! TY!
Hi Chris. I do try to plan and am getting better. I use photopills and try to use Google Earth. The problem I get is I know what time the sun rises/sets and the direction but with the mountains I have trouble working out when it breaks the skyline. Especially in winter as the sun stays low.
No doubt about it Rod there are some locations that are difficult to shoot in because of the surrounding hills. Buttermere, Thirlmere and Haweswater spring to mind. PhotoPills does have a feature that allows you to work out when the sun will be above the fells. I uses trigonometry to work out angles and stuff!
Very interesting Chris. I just tend to learn when the sunrise is and if I can make it, so be it. I’m more a moody, overcast type of guy anyway. So much more fun for me. It’s no secret our approach is different 😬😬
You are absolutely right about that mate. The other thing that I find about shooting in the morning is that it is far quieter and often a lot calmer. Important for me as I often like to shoot around the edges if the lakes and am looking for the reflections.
@@ChrisSalePhoto For mornings the added advantage is your travel ETA is more likely to be kept due to light traffic. Another important thing I learnt the hard way is to have an alternate shooting location in the same area planned (especially if you're travelling some distance and it's at a non-public property).
Good video with very practical tips. I’ll just need to find similar websites for my area. Sad hearing you talk about lockdown almost a year ago. Stay safe and healthy.
Some interesting tools in there Chris, thanks. OSMaps is awesome and I used to use Clear Outside as an astronomer! Possible idea for one of your vlogs - kit maintenance and storage. What do you do to clean it / keep it clean, how do you store it when not in use, etc. Just a thought. Stay safe.
Hi Dave - thanks for the suggestion. I not sure I am the best to talk about kit maintenance! My camera sensor is covered in muck. Probably time to send it away to be cleaned! :)
Great minds think alike mate...I pretty well do the same using the same tools! lol 👍
No surprises there mate, I am pretty sure I nicked some of them off of you. Clear Outside came from David Dixon.
Hi Chris: I try to use both Photo Pills and TPE when planning my locations shoots, but I must admit I am not very good at either app. Maybe this could be a topic for a future video. I also use 500PX to do some preliminary scouting of an area because in most cases we are flying to a location and I want to be able to pre-visualize the shot and location to safe time. In many cases, we are on a tight time-frame so this can help me tremendously in determining what locations would be a priority for us. While I don't want to capture my own version of the location, it does help. Keep safe & cheers. . . Keith Pinn
Hi Keith - I tend to avoid 500px. I have the thing about being to overly influenced by other photographers. I follow very, very few local photographers on Instagram for that very reason.
Hi Chris: I agree with our comments regarding 500 PX and Instagram in general. I don’t use these sites when I am in my local area or even in our province but when you are spending thousands of dollars for travel it helps to inform our decisions on where we want to spend time. Unfortunately, not every area we want to go to is covered by great local You Tubers such as yourselves. Keep safe! Cheers, Keith
Some great tips Chris!!! I do use Google earth pro, to find a new location to shoot. I do especially like the 3d maps, so you can see how the view will be like!!
Hope I can plan a trip to the lakes, early next year🤞🤞
Hi mate - I still haven't found the time to get my head around Google Earth. It's one of those things that I need to get to grips with. Got any advice?
@@ChrisSalePhoto It's really useful to scout out new locations, I do use it every time i'm going to visit a new country/ area. I think the best feature is that you can put a pin everywhere, even on a mountaintop and you will get a 360 degree 3D view from that point. Think that is really useful if you going to visit an area for the first time. You can even do a sunrise/set simulation, so you can see where the light wil hit the landscape.
Really enjoyed this - thanks. Not sure if you’re aware but The Photographers Ephemeris is also available as an app.
Thanks for that, I have it on my phone and will often use the app instead of the web site because it is more convenient. If you look at the thumbnail for this video you can see TPE is on my phone. :)
Chris you should download google earth..
It gives you sun rise and sunset and where the light will fall on the ground so you can see where the best view point will be.
Thank you, another interesting video and a couple of helpful websites! Is wild camping actually allowed in the UK? It isn't in Holland.. Not sure if I would like it (probably not so much 🙈😂), but I can't try it eighter cause that could get very expensive.. The fine for wild camping is 140 euro here..
Hi Elly. That sucks that you can't wild camp in Holland. I would be thinking of moving to a country where you can wild camp. A shame because Holland is a beautiful country. Another great vlog Criss. 🎪
Hi Elly - wild camping in the UK isn't legal. However, in some areas it is tolerated. You are free to wild camp in many of our national parks. Here in the Lake District you can wild camp so long as you are above the highest dry stone wall. Unfortunately the number of people camping in places that they are not supposed to is on the increase.
Especially for new locations, I use a combination of TPE, PhotoPills, Google Earth, and Google Maps. OS map would be good for hiking information, but is it available for US locations or other nations? Thanks.
Sorry John, I believe that they are only available here in the UK. They are so useful for photographers. Great for finding interesting topographical features that might be worth exploring.
Great vid Chris. Who is cutting your hair?
I have allowed Mrs Sale to have a bit of a hack about. Probably won't be long before she has to have another go.
Very useful links, but getting up at silly o'clock is definitely putting me off landscape photography. :(
Hi Chris, I save a route in OS maps app & I have just checked it does give me an estimated time. So maybe you are not saving your route? Just a thought.
Chris I knew you were the organized type, you’ve proved yourself with this video. Lots of good thought provoking information. I’ve done a bit of planing myself, sometimes quite extensively, but it depends on the outing...
Over the past year I’ve been thinking of acquiring an “off road” vehicle (two door Jeep) so as to better access the remote locations. Our MINI Cooperstown not the best for “off road” adventures. Typically here in Arizona good locations tend towards “remote” due to the fact that many “roads” are not paved but simply trails. I fully understand those early morning treks can be brutal, thus I’ve thought about a “teardrop” trailer as an alternative to driving hours in the dark or ground camping. Still in the research phase for both the Jeep and teardrop, mostly held up due to lockdown uncertainties etc.
Here’s a US manufacturer teardrop I like for its large window ; vistabule.com a good place to watch the changing light. And a UK site for teardrops; www.teardroptrailers.co.uk
I always enjoy your videos, and would someday like to meet you in person.
Hi Hugh - I would like to meet you too, maybe one day when all this lockdown stuff is over! :)
Chris Sounds like a plan. I work for an airline, thus my wife and I can travel inexpensively, and our list of places we’d like to visit isn’t gettin any shorter.
As before, Geograph and Wheresthepath give you an enormous amount of information before you get there.
I have looked at both of them but didn't feel that they added anything to my existing approach. Sorry.
I just go with my camera, my knife and a sandwich.