Non-binary Is Made Up
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- Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024
- No, seriously. That just probably doesn't mean what you think it means.
This video examines the actual biological reality of gender, asks whether gender is is a social construct, and looks into what exactly that means for the validity of non-binary genders.
It also provides some answers to the questions generated by the latest Contrapoints discourse regarding nonbinary people.
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tag yourself I'm fuckgender
I'm also Gender Void
I'm Raymondgender and Marshallromantic
I'm biohazard
Gendertrash ala Jim Sterling. I like the sound of that.
can i be a trickstergender
What is a gende
A miserable pile of secrets.
@@badwrongfun5541 but enough talk, have at you
Ah, yes, the infamous trans a gende
The agenda is rainbows and marshmallows. Obviously
I think it’s a kind of soup? Not sure though
I wonder how common it is for people to be low-key agender. Like, I certainly don't "feel like a man" or "feel like a woman", but I'm not particularly bothered by being gendered as either. I "identify" as a man because that's how most people view me and since I'm not actively bothered by it, it shapes my political context. Part of me not caring could of course be simple privilege, much like a lot of white people might not actively think of themselves as white, but like, I feel utterly apathetic towards my gender and how people interpret it. And I have been gendered as a woman at times, both online and as homophobic mockery, but really don't mind it either way. IDing as agender would feel kinda appropriative as trans and enby people generally face discomfort or oppression that I don't, so "man" it is for me, but like, it seems alien to me how strongly a lot of people identify with a gender.
It’s really not that complicated. If you were born with the XY chromosome you are a male. If you were born with the XX chromosome you are a female. Really is that simple. How you choose to live your life is your prerogative but you can’t change your biological gender.
@@ianalan4367 "Biological gender" is an oxymoron. You just demonstrated that you don't know what you're talking about.
What you're talking about is sex, and it's not even that simple either because intersex people exist.
Gender is the internal sense of what you are. Sex is the dimorphic biological characteristics you have.
It's really not that complicated.
@@ianalan4367 Please actually watch the video that you're commenting on. Your argument has already been addressed very completely and eloquently. If you're confused or disagree with a specific thing brought up in the video feel free to come back and argue with me. I'd love that. But I'm not going to type out the script of the video becasue you're too sodding lazy to watch the first 10 min.
@Noor that’s exactly how I feel. Occasionally I ask myself if I’m actually agender, but it feels like too much effort and like I’d be an impostor.
Hi there! I know I’m 9 months late to your comment but I just wanted to let you know that you’re 100% “allowed” (I feel like that’s the wrong word because no one has to give you permission to identify a certain way you know what I mean) to identify as agender! Your gender identity is completely based on your own feelings. You do not have to fit a certain quota of dysphoria or oppression just to identify a certain way!
brb I'm gonna donate my gender to a friend
I'm trading my gender for something good no clown trades and don't scam
@@shaded389
Look. One free cringe pass, if you do cringe, the cringe can be revoked by means of memetic sabotage. Deal?
@@theblandcharlie822 deal
@@shaded389
Pass me your amorphous society emblem
@@theblandcharlie822 male
I subbed at "impersonate childbirth," in case you're curious.
LMAO 🤣 dude what?
Yes I had to stop to laught
when did they say that? timestamp pls
@@papasscooperiaworker3649 1:35 is the start of the clip
I laughed so f'ing hard at that part too hahahahahah!
Their is no gender, just the deep, screaming, gender shaped abyss within our souls that we fill with whatever fits into it best
Don’t be silly
@@myacole1272 Fuck you
@@myacole1272 mmhm
Zach L 😉
Wtf
reject gende
return to the v o i d e
the v o i d e demands a sacrifice
gendè
@@fishinglegit6785 I sacrifice my sex assigned at birth to the v o i d e
I'm already IN the voide.
*"they had us in the first half not gonna lie"*
As someone with grey eyes, I shall henceforth identify as "unnatural aberration" thank you for listening
i have hazel eyes and honestly if i can be referred to as an unnatural aberration i'd much prefer that
I can tell you that in Czech folklore song cca 1850, grey eyes were like the shit that everybody was into.
Wow that's crazy. I've heard of a lot of cases where grey or light blue eyes are usually attributed with colour blindness or complete blindness. Does that apply to you?
ayyy i have gray eyes too! They're like a dark very slightly blue tinted gray :)
i think i must have dropped my gender somewhere, i've been looking for a while but i can't find it anywhere, oh well i don't really miss it
Until you visit the hospital.. right?
@@LoveScreamTrue no....?
Artis Zelmenis instructions unclear, went there and caught COVID-19. Gender still nowhere to be seen.
@@NosebleeddeGroselha :D
@@LoveScreamTrue :)
What is this? A clickbait title that isn't actually clickbait but relevant to the conversation?
Is this a new youtube meta?
I define myself as female presenting, gender divergent, and what really aggros me is when people say stuff like 'oh, you only feel that way because of the abuse you suffered as a child', and use that to dismiss your identity. There is a very good chance that the way I define my gender IS because of trauma, but that doesn't make it any less legitimate. If it helps me live my life day to day and makes me more comfortable with myself, without hurting anyone, then why do I have to change it?
Exactly this. Some day, being trans won't be anyone's business and we can all just fucking play mario kart and shit
Well those people only feel that way because of the abuse they suffer at the hands of society right now, so there!
Listen I don't want to be the voice of doom here, but I'm extremely afraid for the safety of marginalized groups in the near future. The reason I'm telling you this is to prepare you for what may be coming. I don't know how closely you pay attention to American politics, but there has been a highly alarming shift towards the extreme right (fascism) going on. Drawing parallels between present day and 1920s/30s Germany is not difficult, and the similarities just keep piling up. I'm here to ring alarm bells. If you live in the United States and it's realistic for you to leave, DO SO NOW, OR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. The window to escape is narrowing by the day. If the fascists win, they're going to chiefly target brown people, but second on the list will be anyone who falls under the umbrella of LGBTQIA, followed closely by intellectuals or anyone resembling a leftist (as in, anyone left of fascist on the spectrum). Given the negative attitude towards trans people that exists even in many leftist circles, I fear that not enough people will come to your aid when the Brownshirts start pounding on doors to drag people away to the "re-education facilities" (concentration camps).
This is not a problem specific to America, there has been a global rise in extreme right-wing ideology happening for decades now. I can feel in my bones something is about to come to a head. Positive change is on the horizon, but things will have to get much, much worse before anything gets better. Take whatever precautions you can. I'm sorry if I came off like a loon here, but I'm a history buff and I can no longer write off the aforementioned similarities between the US and Nazi Germany and other authoritarian regimes as a coincidence or a fun thought experiment. So again, I'm here to ring the alarm bells.
@@choronos We already know about the nazi resurgence in america. There's already no way to leave. Everyone's either homeless, protesting, or trying to stay sane with memes. There's no escape. It will be brutal whether we panic about it in advance or not.
Connor Barkington Yes, letˋs all just be people!
What doesn't get talked about by his defenders is Ben Shapiro DOES have a political agenda, that's undeniable. Trans people as a whole are varied, as is their politics, their transition isn't defined by their politics, but the people who are against transexuality already have a preconceived bias against it, especially Ben Shapiro. Shapiro has a very extreme, strict societal definition. I know he claims to be yet another 'free speech warrior' but its just a method of gaining support, his ideals about how society should function, what people should look like, what they should believe, how they should behave, all these things are very rigid. Ben Shapiro says things should be a certain way, and any deviation from this ideal is a sin against nature, he has an agenda, he isn't just 'dishing out facts' as so many claim, in fact many of his facts are quite easily debunkable, but he has mastered the art of the mic drop in his 'debates', he knows how to perform, how to shout over people and remove their response from discussion. He also cherry picks his research, his sources often contradict themselves. Please, do yourself a favour, like Jordan Peterson if you really insist, but stop pretending Ben Shapiro is an 'intellectual', he is just a less crazy sounding Alex Jones, the people he attacks do not feel threatened by him, they laugh at him.
I'm glad more people are waking up about Shapiro. He's just another corporate socialist that favors deregulation and standard establishment politics with a show funded by oil billionaires. That's why all he focuses on is the culture war to attract edgy high schoolers because he knows he's an absolute fraud when it comes to the economic issues.
@@pjk7138 I think it's important for people to realize that his political agenda is not all that important. He's a celebrity, not a politician. His power comes from people debating him, talking about him, trying to debunk him. If you want to take him down, ignore him.
He's highly respected by conservatives unfortunately. If you want to actually convince people rather than pandering to those that agree, you kinda have to pretend Shapiro is worth intellectually engaging with.
@@RisenSlash Fuckin hell that's depressing. It's not like the shit he says is even moderate it's quite extreme a lot of the time.
@@RisenSlash conservatives like him because he makes leftists angry. Every time a leftist engages with him, it give him more "liberal DESTROYED" content. If the right respects him, let them watch his content. It doesn't change anything. Argue with those people directly. Let them bring his talking points to us, and realize that all the arguments are paper thin. It feels rewarding in a way to engage with the big bad, but we're living in a world where attention is power, and being correct doesn't matter.
0:17 As an enby, that's all I needed to hear. Enjoy the rest of the class, everyone else.
Love when vids are short and to the point.
Yeah going into it I was pretty much expecting to see just that: "... because the binary is also made up, kthxbye"
then you're not doing research, you're just feeding your confirmation bias as most people do constantly...
@@crack24able like you don't do it, too.
Jake-lynn Dobos did I say I don’t? However I am aware of it being a thing and actively try challenging my views and researching. On the other hand, The people in these comments are proud of it.. people just listen to what they wanna hear and what they already know and believe...
As a cisgender ally, honestly the best way to comprehend this had always been to compare it to religion (kinda as you brought up). Having grown up Christian I was taught the world worked a certain way and as I became an atheist and learned about other religions and non-faith I just went: "ok. Hold on now. I don't have to identify with what I was born into?"
I feel like with abstract and social constructs that it's just best to compare it with others that the learner is already familiar with.
Wait don't we learn in school about other religions ?
@@petardiamond4027 i didnt lol at least in my school they only taught us about catholicism and acknowledged christians, but anything else wasnt taught
@@kuprum7 Interesting in my school we were taught about most religions . Muslims , jews etc. And all of that was pretty positive .
gender is not an abstract and social construct though. social acceptance for what you can do change but your gender and sex are absolutely tied to biology and typically correlates.
@@TheBAGman17 But that's the thing there at the end of your sentence "typically correlates" which means that it doesn't. I don't remember the debate but I heard someone say "but doesn't the exceptions to the rule still prove it's a rule and that it is still binary" and I thought of it like computer code. Like if there exists even one gender nonconforming, trans, agender, etc. then that isn't the "exception that proves the rule" it just disproves the rule just like a single 2 popping up in a string of binary code would not be registered on a computer. All that to say the fact that you added the word typically at the end proves that it is a social construct.
The reason why people are terrified of this is (besides the inherit human fear of change) certainly because of the implication that something they believed to be a natural LAW set in stone, is only in our heads.
And that, certainly, is terrifying.
I don't even believe that to be the case. It's not that this sudden change is so frightening. I mean, the science of nutrition comes with a number of changes that challenge preexisting models and common wisdom. There may be some annoyance but, outside of a culture of "down home" or "manliness", that's rarely met with more than an "oh, that's new".
I think it's far more the case that fearing/hating/"defeating with facts and logic" this new thing is attached to a narrative of superiority where the opposing force claims to have superior morality or intellect or values or what-have-you. The fear justifies the hate justifies the sense of superiority and power as expressed through cruelty.
It can be, I guess, but I don't relate. Every time I learn that something that I believed certain and solid are actually nothing nore than a human fantasy, I feel relieved and liberated. One less chain, one less tyrant, one less rule I should feel obliged to obey.
it's because people want personality trait genders to be real. and view various chromosomal disorders to no longer be disorders.
@@WingedWyrm But sexuality (sex, gender, attraction, expression, etc) is part of our identity, our sense of self. I would personally argue that realising gender is a social construct, to me, to be far more earth shattering than "the nutrition pyramid is an outdated model of what healthy eating habits are."
@@WhiteScorpio2 Love, I DO feel you, I really do. I've been out of the atheistic closet for the past 2 years and the realisations that came with it ARE and WERE exhilarating.
HOWEVER, the thought that I'll never ever ever see my passed loved ones and that oblivion awaits us all is also soul crushingly both terrifying and saddening.
I suppose you haven't passed through something of the kind to feel this ambivalence.
The fact this video also contain a platypus just makes a great video even better.
I mean, getting better understanding of my identity and better appreciation of an already cool animal all at once?
What else could we ask for?
Person: "I'm gonna call them slosh doggos to avoid branding"
Same person: *calls cola flavor Coke*
Probably just an excuse to say slosh doggos.
Cause honestly who wouldn't wanna say that lmao
Love the analogy to religion. I think it will be useful in conversations I plan on having with under-informed relatives
"There's only one true gender and the rest of you are heretics, apostates, and Heathens!" Can you even imagine?
@@anonymous36247 lmaoo
@@anonymous36247 LADS, LADS, LADS, LADS
@@anonymous36247 gender neutral
Under informed yes because you are the holder of all intelligence and you know everything and you've never been wrong on anything in your entire life
Money is another example of a social construct. Different cultures have different currencies, and they change in value over history. They only have power because other people believe in them.
But we completely accept that money exists for us, not us for it. If we need to, we can print more, remove some from circulation, or invent new ones like the Euro.
Imagine if that was as normal or accepted with gender or religion? 🤔
This is an OK metaphor but just to be clear we should not be printing more money willy-nilly, that's bad economics.
For more on that topic, read 'the construction of social reality' by John Searle.
@WaveHello
I like that analogy, but unfortunately, it helps the gender binary 'side'...not yours. 🤔
If we have agreed to bills with certain attributes being worth a certain amount, as well
as usable in certain countries, then somebody can't just say
"well, money is a social construct and can be changed, so I'm deciding this $100 bill is
now 20 Euro or $5million, so give me that boat, worth of $5million!"
Precisely BECAUSE it's a SOCIAL construct, it can NOT be decided by individuals or their feelings
and necessarily has to have mutual agreement, usually still based on fixed attributes and facts.
@@MindOfFoolio you've mistaken a problem with the analogy with an actual problem.
@@MindOfFoolio but a social construct is still changeable, like political forms of state, acceptance of sexualities or borders of nations were before.
So while a single individual can't change much, society gradually can. On the other hand, if what you wanted to change is not based on social agreements but on physical laws, society can't change anything. That's why the discussion about the underlying biology is so important.
The genitals a person has are essentially just indicators of their potential role in reproduction. So even to me as a non-binary person, it seems kinda intuitive that most societies would have built up some kind of social roles around people's reproductive roles. Is it dehumanising? A little, yes. But it's obviously a case of the collective human society placing its survival needs above the comfort of the individuals that comprise it. I don't like it either, but social roles based on reproductive roles (which are themselves based on genitals) _did_ for a long time help us form pairs for child-rearing. And even though we don't depend on these roles as much as we used to, we are all descendents of one or more societies that owed their success to this method.
I for one would never personally define myself in relation to my reproductive role. But I don't begrudge the people who do so. After all, their genders are as valid as my own. If anything, I see their genders as _part of_ the infinite continuum of genders available to non-binary people. Because we're not trying to destroy the gender binary, only add to it. Mocking the very concept of a binary (and saying a person's genitals are as superficial as their eye colour) comes way too close to just mocking the _people_ whose ability to create tiny humans means a lot to them, who define their gender in terms of that trait. Isn't mocking those people just the modern-day equivalent of radical feminists shaming women who choose to be full-time mothers?
This comment deserves more likes. You said everything I wanted to say but couldn't find the words.
This is dangerous level of rationality
People who identify with their reproductive role don't have to be cis and it doesn't equate to feminists who don't support stay at home mothers 1:1 because they are both very different complex issues that exist at the same time
You do understand that y’all are the exception right? How is that reducing someone to their genitalia when THESE THINGS HAPPENED BEFORE WE STARTED MAKING WORDS FOR THEM??
Not just genitals. Females and males are very diffrent biologically, and gender roles while not ideal, are a better "fit" to how guys and girls are built. That's why transgender people shouldn't be in the same category as cis in sports if they took hormones as adults. Their body developed so diffrently it has drastic diffrences with cis people.
I'm a medical laboratory scientist and I know one thing to always be absolutely true regarding biology: there are no absolutes.
And thank you so much for bringing up genotype vs phenotype and the concept of classification just being grouping based on shared characteristics that is always being updated.
Really, whenever I hear the "It's just basic biology" argument all I can think is "Not basic. Incomplete and outdated."
My little sibling just came out as nonbinary to my mom who is a terf, and my mother replied that being asked to change how she uses pronouns for someone is like being asked to "change her religion", which I now have a great rebuttal for thanks to your awesome video! (Also my mom goes to a Unitarian Universalist church so she should be double ashamed of herself)
Edit: Can you transphobes stop replying to this? My mom died from covid two years ago and it's only since her passing that I've been able to process that she was medically neglectful, manipulative, and a conspiracy theorist. She never got me or my siblings vaccinated, tried to keep me from getting an emergency inhaler for my asthma, and took us to chiropractors exclusively as an alternative to legitimate medicine. She only died from covid because she refused to get vaccinated and then got a job as a receptionist without wearing a mask. All this is to say, I won't be responding to any more comments on this. She was way better at arguing for transphobia than any of you internet ghouls anyways.
I hope things can get better for you soon, that sounds like a really rough situation. Best of luck
Best of luck and lots of love to your little sibling! Tell them we support them all the way
I hope they're doing okay and I'm glad they have you on their team!
Wow! I'm trans, and a UU, and that's never been an issue at my congregation. I guess every church really is different. Also sending good vibes to ur sibling.
How old is your sibling
I forget your channel exists and then when you make another video, i get really excited.
Both informative and funny. Like good Breadtube should be.
I think gender is both very real, innate and important and a construct because the way we choose to group things is a construct as you said, but that feeling of being a man, woman or other gender is really natural, strong, and important to most individuals. I'd never want a world without gender, I want a world where genders aren't forced on people that don't fit them.
I went into this video thinking I’d find it an interesting point of view, but would disagree on some points. Just by the start and title, I presumed you’d make the arguement that gender is purely social. Which I disagree with. I feel there’s definitely a biological/psychological aspect.
But I was pleasantly surprised that this video, embodies my feelings pretty well. So, I want to thank you for making this video, and tell you that it was very good
Please, would you explain the biological aspec tof gender? Unless sex and gender both mean male and female in which case, we already have the biology of sex.
@@xz740 it was explained in this video right? You are in all likelihood assigned a gender at birth based on your observable primary sex characteristics, and that is likely to have a large impact on your life.
C MacQuarrie Why do people who call themselves non-binary insist that gender isn’t sex, then others such as your good self say you were born (not assigned) a gender. Why do you all contradict each other over sex and gender?
@@xz740 well because we're different people and were not all experts. I'm quite likely using the wrong terminology, I'm a cis man and I just arrived at the party. I'd say I was born a man (or a boy I guess) perhaps it would be more correct to say I was assigned male at birth, maybe I'll get there someday. For me it doesn't matter because I've never thought of myself as anything but male. The stakes are super low for me here, I'm not an expert and I definitely don't speak for anyone but me. I'm just trying to do my part for fellow humans.
@@xz740 looking at my original comment it appears I actually did say "assigned" my points still stand though.
So,, I wanted to say thanks? I've been well aware of non-binary identities for ages but this video really helped me discover it might describe me and that's been really freeing, thank you :'')
@Things Things ikr the moment I put snufkin as my profile I should have known
LMFAO
hello snoofkin 😼😼😼
I'm happy for you and so proud of you for discovering your true authentic self 💗
Snowflake
Well, if Gender is a social construct, then what right does the patriarchy have to oppress people?! We can't have that called into question.
Exactly!
"iF GenDeR iSnT rEAl SoCieTy IsNt ReAl"
What does the "patriarchy", something that doesn't exist, have to do with this? Gender is pointless.
@@vladlu6362 My comment was sarcastic.
@@FriendofFantasy You need to be promoted to Reddit user so you can use /s for clarification.
I get why conservative folks are uncomfortable because of questioning traditional gender roles. They live their whole lives being told and knowing how it should look like. And then someone comes and basically says that it didn't have to be this way. That their lives could be totally different if they where raised differently. And that concept, concept of maybe wasted years of life IMO can shake someone to their core. Send them in an existential crisis.
And as such they refuse to acknowledge that. They even fight that.
Well it explains but its doesn't make it okay
Also as far as I know, people get confused by too many options. Like, the more options three are, the less likely it is that one will choose one at all
With time only strongests ideas stick. Somehow gender roles sticked.
It ain't that deep. Plenty of heterosexual cis gendered men never feel out of place with their sex, yet never feel fully comfortable with society's expectations of what it is to be a man. To me...NB doesn't make sense because they are admitting that gender roles are real. NB are denying that they dont fit in with genders expectations...and by default are admitting that they exist in the first place. That doesn't sound very progressive to me. I'm a gay man so I know what it's like to grow up confused, but I dont understand it.
Born a woman, love being a woman, heterosexual. Never questioned my sexuality or gender. Someone coming to me with a story they don’t know how to decide their gender that day or change it all the time is completely ridiculous. Sounds to me like you don’t have personality or interests and you are trying to make one out of being different gender each day. If you weren’t that you would probably end up in a cult…so binary away or whatever you call wearing a pants one day and skirt another one.
I view gender identity as an innate part of our psychology, but the discrete categories we place it into as social constructs.
my gender is a collection of monster energy cans
Hell yeah
mines are arizona
This has been the best explanation I've seen on the topic of non binary identities. Thank you.
this title scared me, but I'm so glad I clicked! I'm glad to see another agender person, I don't see that very often!
Was hesitant from the title, then I saw the username and knew I was going to get an interesting in Nuance video essay
That religion analogy was actually really good! Both religion and gender being something you can be born into, forced into, change as you grow, or even abandon altogether. Helped a lot to understand it, great video!
That's not the same at all. People aren't Naturally religious it's 100% always fed to the person. But gender comes without people being told to act a certain way. This analogy makes zero sense in reality if gender or what ever is a social construct why do we have natural instincts at all? Why do tribes that has never seen civilized society still have gender roles?
I actually learned about different gender chromosome pairs. Thank you biology teacher! :D
The same teacher who taught me about evolution, actually. I don't think I appreciated her enough.
I'm over the cultivated identity around gender.
Thank God I'm a bleeb
This is the first time sex and gender has been explained to me so that i truly understand it. Thank you for this wonderful video, enabling me to understand myself.
I have a mantra, "Don't hurt anyone and you're fine." As long as there isn't anyone hurt or having a high chance of being hurt idc good for you whatever. If it is stop.
I was once taught that there were 3 sexes. People who can get pregnant, people who get others pregnant, and neither.
"racist helium balloons on the internet". so good.
Never understood the argument “now everybody thinks they are trans/gay/lbgt” as a negative thing when my family shouts it. As “oh noo now evryebody is experimenting their sexuality and discovering their identity! Its the end of the world”. Love the fact you brought that a world free of limiting boxes is not something to be afraid of for normative people, you are basically gaining more choices to be who you are freely!
So where does this experiment end? When it's ok for anybody to do anything they want without ridicule? Why not let people indulge in beastiality, pedophilia and necrophilia too I mean it's only how they feel right they should be able to do it without judgement.
I clicked to either click right away because it was transphobic or stay and watch an incredible scientific video...
I got the latter! Thank you for making this!!!!!!
Whenever you two release an album call it smoosh doggos lol
By the 16 second mark she'd said all that needed be said, but went on to a discussion that includes this line.
"You don't need to understand something in order to accept it and respect it."
That's a fair statement. Do you understand how your automatic transmission works?
I saw a few ppl on reddit with a similar argument about languages.
"I don't understand Korean but I know it's a language."
@@najeyrifai293 Perhaps I should be more clear. She said all that needed be said by the 16 second mark because it was true.
The additional truth was bonus.
What was in the cup, WHAT WAS IN THE CUP
smushed doggos
Mashed ice with flavored food coloring. Otherwise known as an Iceie or Raspa.
@@777Rowen Yea, but it was fake. My guess is fake snow with food coloring in it, just by the way it behaves when scooped
It might have been coloured mashed potato, to prevent melting.
@@joycelinlgbtq oh, yummy : (
its insane how so many people are becoming unhinged at this idea. why do they care? live and let live people!
I think a big part of it comes from how certain takes on the issue have implications towards Cisgendered people of which many said Cisgendered people disagree with. For example, the philosophy expressed in this video is that all genders are social constructs based off of both biology, societal expectations, and personal definitions of those genders. This assertion makes Cisgender people feel misrepresented, (possibly for the first time in their entire lives) as they have always believed in gender as being a fact of who they are, and find the assertion that it's just something society made up about them as inaccurate.
Regardless of who's right or wrong, it comes down to the basic fact that if you make an assertion about someone they never thought of, or more precisely have thought of and don't agree with, they tend to become irritable.
As a bio major reading gender/sexuality theory for the first time, I was surprised to learn that the way scientists try to define "species" and the way gender theorists try to define "gender" and "sex" have very similar issues. The comparison between sex and taxonomy in this video really struck me cause i've been thinking about it a lot recently and it's really cool to see that I'm not alone in thinking this way!
the worst part of it all is trying to convince religious people that the Entire World is not superseded by one specific religion's beliefs....
YES! The Smoosh Doggo (sp?) analogy is a perfect metaphor! As a novo, I feel so legitimized!
i was so scared youtube was gonna recommend me a video invalidating me and i still clicked on it because i just do this kind of shit. so yeah thank you for a waay better video than i anticipated :)
I’ve never really felt the need to assert that I am a man or do certain things because I am a man. I just do what I like and don’t do the things I don’t like. I’m picky about the things I like and I feel like people should just be like that. I don’t care what you call me, I’ve often been called a girl or vampire by family for having long hair and pale skin. “Oh no, people have thoughts that I don’t like or agree with, whatever shall I do?” And what I did was continue being me.
I know not everyone has that luxury and that no matter what I say I inwardly have huge self esteem issues and massive anxieties. I’m not as confident as I might lead you to believe. But I am without a doubt my own person regardless of what I or anyone else says and I think that’s good enough. Words have no more meaning than we give them and if I’m happy then that’s what matters; and the same is true for you.
Sadly most reactionaries won't get halfway through this video
Because it's BS. And not worth subjecting yourself too if you're sane. Distinction between Gender and Sex is a modern leftist concept and ridiculous.
@@christiangamer1752 What specifically makes it bs? Which part?
The Torah mentions non binary individuals 200+ times. This was not invented by any political party.
Now, continue your rhetoric but with a little more education.
@brmbly What cultures? I'll wait.
@@Ry-wu3nt That has to be the funniest thing I've read in a long time.
Oh wow, you got me with that video title. I was 90% sure this is where you were going, but I had to click to make sure. Great video
This was very educational, and it seems there's so much more to learn. Gender is a thing I've quietly struggled with for a long time. It's never made any sense to me why people of a certain gender were assigned social ideals. Why people say you should or shouldn't do this or that because of your gender. Why certain colors, clothes, hobbies, or even scents were attributed as masculine or feminine. I've always figured, do what makes you happy. My personal philosophy for everything in life has been "Do what thou wilt, and let it be the whole of the law, an' it harm none."
social cohesion , optimizing functionality etc etc
and now they are genders in their self
btw " My personal philosophy for everything in life has been "Do what thou wilt, and let it be the whole of the law, an' it harm none."" is my fundamental ethics too
@@transsexual_computer_faery but everything someitmes has unintended damge. we now live in a world were we need to caiter to someone who is hurt or offended. like all the trangender people who hate alterhumans/otherkin because they think they are being made fun of, therefor being otherkin is wrong and hurtfull
@@kaiyodei it's impossible to account for everything
me: sees bigender flag
me, remembering my bigender friend: “ah, yes, the infinite smushdoggo.”
Imagine if sex was actually determined by height. Imagine if bathrooms had a “You must be this tall to use this bathroom” sign
Took me way too long to realize sloshdoggo was slushpuppies.
Saw this video in my recommendations and since I’m non-binary I thought “I shouldn’t watch this for the sake of my mental health”, then it showed up again and I thought “I guess I’ll write an angry comment” but now I’m pleasantly surprised
19:43 this was absolutely me as a kid.
...Especially the part about Spore. I played the shit out of that game.
Letting people decide what they are could be the right way. But what if what they decide isn't on the list, how do you name something that you feel specifically. My solution for this is just making something up and then adding it to the list
I wish i could translate this to spanish so a friend that is so mad about thia topic could feel so related to this like im doing it now, seriously thanks
I actually found you and your friend via our shared interest in synth music (which you should definitely continue 😉) but found myself even more fascinated with this kind of content.
Personally I'm a white cis-het male, so I'm actually among the most entitled group of people on this planet and people often don't understand why I'm outspoken about social issues like gender, feminism or racism, but the fact is also I'm not really gender conforming in the way that I embrace many attributes considered female (make-up and skirts as well as being emotional and artsy, to name a few), so I know how it feels being left out and attacked for something I am even though I could change some of those things if I wanted, and I can at least imagine how it must feel to be attacked on such a fundamental level without any chance of changing anything (which of course you shouldn't!).
Long story short: I love your breaking down of such a complex topic so that people who are not subject to the issue themselves can still easily understand it, and I won't ever grow tired of sharing this to maybe reach a few more open ears and enrich some minds - knowing that my white male cis-het'ness unfortunately makes people listen to me a bit more readily.
I doubt you read the comments on two year old videos, but I saw this about a year ago and it was a huge catalyst in my coming out as non-binary to myself and to my friends and family after 2-3 years of questioning my gender. So thank you so much for this, I've been so much happier in the past year without feeling like I have to live up to the standards of my AGAB. This video has probably improved so many lives.
At this point figuring out my gender has gone down the path of, "the fuck cares, gender is fake, just want a deeper voice and ability to be comfortable in my body."
I gave up on tellin people in my hometown that I am non-binary. I only discuss it with fellow lgbtq+ friends, but else stay under the radar :T
for now
@@curlyprivat22 same
Enjoyed the video! I tend to agree that in an ideal world we wouldn't have these labels at all, but I see what you mean that arguing the point isn't especially necessary or useful to improving the state of things right now.
the most biggest proof that gender is a social construct is quite a lot (not all) autistic people, including myself, feel we dont fit in with binary genders and we cant understand all these rules on what binary genders are. autistic people tend to not understand social constructs. i never felt like a man or a woman, but i didnt feel agender. i knew i had a gender, i just couldnt describe it because it was completely different from most standard genders, and a lot of my neurodivergent friends feel the same way. more of my neurodivergent friends experienced dysphoria and were non binary than my neurotypical friends. actually, almost all my neurodivergent friends identify with a xenogender (xenogenders are genders that are completely out of the binary norm, the one i identify with is 404gender, a gender made for autistic people who cant describe their gender due to their neurodivergency) quite interesting to think about..
sorry for typing an essay, talk about gender makes me wanna info dump my and others' experiences T_T
I'M AUTISTIC AND I COMPLETELY RELATE TO HOW YOU DESCRIBED YOUR GENDER
I'm so glad I started following; easy to understand but not oversimplified, and just the right level of levity lol.
21:07 I genuinely forgot that image wasn't created for queerleading. What a world I lived in just a moment ago.
[hears first five seconds] [deletes paragraph]
Big food for thought. While I'm not yet sure how i feel about all this information, i definitely feel like i understand it a lot better than before. Being a cishet guy ive felt pretty comfortable with my gender for my whole life, so its taken some time for me to wrap my head around that not being the case for some people. Your video has played a big part in that, thank you. Very eye-opening
Alot of ppl in the comments have no idea what they are talking about, i really liked the video and agree on most points, you were really well spoken and easy to understand for me at the same time, thank you for the work you put into this, i look forward to see more from you
This video is proof that the world is insane. How do you not have WAY more subscribers?!?! This is one of, if not the best video I've seen discussing gender on this platform. This is very well produced, informative and funny and it is criminal how long it took me to find your channel, subscribed.
I was really scared to click this, but am pleasantly surprised. Thank you for creating this video!
Wow I love how logically laid out this video is! I wasn’t entirely sure on my views before this and this has really helped.
I have a couple of minor points where it wasn’t fully logical. Where did the other flavours of ‘slushy’ come from?
And you didn’t seem to mention the fact that the vast majority of people have a collection of characteristics that fit into typical male or female gender characteristics and there is an extremely strong correlation between male/female characteristics. This is why we have separate gendered groups for sports etc. and it’s why we separate by men and women at all so it’s odd that you didn’t mention it and it might be a _partial_ answer to your question at the end
Exactly
Commenting for the non-binary spore solidarity that game was my shit as a teen
Scientists are used to disagreements among peers. New data invalidating old findings is a very standard & integral part of science.
Unlike Instagram, where opinions become ideology and ideology becomes identity. And any complex discussion becomes a battle of identities.
Subbed as soon as you mentioned different chromosome patterns.
One of my partners is XXY and not a lot of people talk about or acknowledge that it's even a thing.
It's not a harmful thing, he doesn't have any health issues from it but like you said, it's proof that chromosomes aren't as simple as what you learn in school.
I think the slush analogy was my favourite part it just became pure chaos
They had us in the first half, not gonna lie
I came to the video ENRAGED but the first 15 seconds saved it for me
Earlier this year I started writing a piece attempting to explain nonbinary gender because I realised I didn't have a strong concept of what it really meant for myself. Part of that piece was simply trying to explain the idea of social constructs, binary genders and biological sex and I failed miserably. You've hit the nail on the head with this video, hell yeah
I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned, but I'm relatively sure the "This is the Age of Sin" poster at 21:08 is actually pro trans art made by a trans artist quoting something the pope said. It and similar designs can be found at www.teepublic.com/user/genderconcepts and the redbubble by the same username! I think their Twitter is @dr_i_rohl
wow this is one of the best discussions of this issue i've ever seen, it debunks so many beliefs that not only transphobes hold, but so many ideas that have been ingrained in us by society that turn out to actually be false
reject humanity
return to monke
reject monke
evolve to crab
nonbinary crabs only: evolve to god
we’re now crabs, and we’ll evolve to become GOD ourselves !!!!!! /pos
David J Bradley recommended your channel and I'm glad I checked it out, a really interesting and easy to understand video!
”Donate it to a friend”
*laughs in bigender with agender friends*
Why do I love this video so fucking much. I've been thinking about gender for years and I finally found someone who can articulate what I've been thinking. I knew gender was a social construct! Some people don't seem to agree :(
God I just love how satisfying the fake slushie is..
Great video! I was playing minecraft as I watched and the atmospheric minecraft music gave your speaking an ethereal tone that fitted perfectly
Excellent points well made, and loved the smoosh doggos part (though the captions thought Hazel said smush tacos lol)
Patriarchy still oppresses women and we're still socialized for how we're born in most countries, so... even though most of us don't identify with most of what our gender is supposed to be, we're still "treated as women". The social construct is up to the power structures, not to our personal choices/feelings. We need to eliminate the differences and injusticies on treatment, that is the only way to abolish oppression
Yes, so oppressed, meanwhile those in China and India are coughing their lungs out from tuberculosis in their sweatshops, toiling away so you can leach off of the products of their labor. But no, you’re oppressed.
@@fatguy6153 do you. do you realise women in india and china are Also oppressed? have you even read up on the struggles faced by women in developing countries or is our suffering only for you to tokenise when you want to talk down to the women of your own country?
Awesome Sauce So capitalist globalist exploitation only affects women in India? I didn’t know that those in the West oppressing those in the East were also under the same form of oppression, it’s almost as if they aren’t.
Don’t talk of tokenization when you tokenize those poor souls in India so as to equate your so-called Western “oppression” with the oppression of the 3rd world, when in fact you are the oppressor.
@@fatguy6153 Where do you think I'm from? 🤔
@@fatguy6153 For the record, I come from a developing country in which we still don't have reproductive rights and rapists and abusers are left free by our justice system. So if you're from a first world country don't talk $hit to me about how privileged I am for being a woman, my guy 😂
Was expecting a video that would either make me mad or give me a good laugh because of how ignorant it is, instead I'm now having an identity crisis because I feel I live by the idea you mentioned of just presenting and acting however I want, being attracted to whoever I'm attracted to etc and generally just avoid labeling myself. And with you mentioning how that doesn't really work in a society that has pushed the idea of the gender binary so hard I'm in a really weird place now. I've never really identified as a man, but I don't have an issue with being referred to as one so have just gone with it, but when I think about it I wouldn't have a problem with being referred to as a woman either. I guess its time to do some soul searching
A wise person keeps quiet and lets other people think and feel what they want. As long as it does no harm to others, be what you want.
Honestly I don’t really care if people understand it, I don’t expect them to. I just expect people to respect pronouns/ names.
Your Ben Shapiro impression in the beginning is spot on.
Having a sense of gender is a privilege. I envy it so badly
I actually did once wonder why people identified as something other than their birth sex if they didn't suffer from dysphoria. Then I realised that I was operating with a different idea of what gender is and how it works informed more by my own experience of being pretty binary trans but not conforming to my chosen gender in some ways. I saw it as more important to expand the definitions of what male and female can be than to make up new genders. On it's own it's a mostly fine concept but it's not what most people operate under. Once I realised that I changed my idea of gender to more closely comply with the general narrative and suddenly it all made a lot more sense.
Thank you for making this, it's the most straightforward video I've seen talking about chromosomes, sex, and gender, as well as an excellent breakdown of being nonbinary. I'll be using this when I come out to my people on social media
The title of this terrified me but the start was a relief