How an AI Like ChatGPT Could Unlock Whale Language
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
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Sperm whales communicate through sound, using echolocation to navigate the deep ocean. Different whale clans use their own patterns of clicks - or “codas” - much in the same way humans use language.
The meaning behind whale language is a fascinating mystery. But could scientists be about to solve it? Find out how researchers are using AI, visual data, and sound recordings to try to understand the ocean’s biggest enigma.
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ArsTechnica | New evidence that sperm whales form clans with diverse cultures, languages | arstechnica.com/science/2016/... - Наука
Hey friends,
do you think that we can chat with whales soon? 💬🤩
first comment
No
Think so.
naw
to use them as a transportation
Terrific video.
Linguistics is a bit of a hobby to me and the idea of having a conversation with another species is exhilarating.
Though this might take a couple more years, im looking forward to such an event taking place.
Glad to hear that, Kami Thulak!
Great choice for a hobby! 💬👏🏽
Hi Kami!
We too!!
Sometimes I wonder what it would feel like to communicate with a different species that see the world differently and has a different understanding of the same concepts. Then I realise I could just try to explain how to take a screenshot to my dad.
🫢
I wonder if they are able to ask questions and how deep into comunication development the form of question emerges anyway.
Very good questions!
We would love to find out!
I always found it curious that no one had taken serious steps into trying to establish communication with animals, so I'm pleasantly surprised that at least one such project is being worked on
And as said in the video, even if we don't manage to create a functional animal-human translator, we're bound to learn a lot
Hi Gandalf! For sure!!
I find it curious how you ignored all the efforts humans have made to communicate with animals.
@@Adaephonablehe may not know
Many of us are still struggling with human-to-human communication unfortunately.
Great video as always! I cross my fingers that CETI manages to crack the language code of sperm whales, it would certainly be a milestone in human history if we manage to actually understand/decipher the language of marine mammals.
If we ever manage to communicate with sperm whales, the very first thing we should tell them is to stay away from big tankers and submarines and to turn down the volume when we meet each other in the water. :)
The horrid sounds of ocean going vessels has destroyed the ability for the whales to communicate long distance. It used to be that the great whales could hear each other across an entire hemisphere - not any more, the ocean is filled with foreign mechanical sounds. On top of that we've polluted their food supply with plastics and oil-based chemical poisons.
Hi Chris! Fingers crossed 🤞
First thing the whale says: “fuck you”
I wonder how translateable languages are even gonna be...
So much vocabulary of our language is built on our experiences. There are thousands of words that a whale could never make proper sense of as those words simply fall outside any whale's experience. There are likely just as many "words" in whale song, that we completely lack context for and which, therefore, will be incredibly difficult to match up with concepts encoded in our own languages.
It could be really interesting to see whether it's possible to translate between different whale clans too. Since they share contexts, this may actually be easier, and enable them to interact beyond their groups in new ways.
Yeah, they prob have different dialects!
Imagine being a whale.. and you’re searching for your mate from all the way across all of the oceans.. “EooouaaaaaUUUUUUUUU?”
A moment passes, a pause even, and then!
“AouuuuuOOOOOOOO!”
Finally you hear that thirsty reply that you’ve been so desperately waiting for. The time has come for a secret rendezvous. You swim for days on end, you pull up, and it’s just some stupid humans 😑
Hi Bergamot! Imagine that!!! 😂
Whalefished again!
I mean humans do it to other humans too. Just look at discord waifus
@@anticom6099😂😂😂😂 you really got me with that partner
Some day in the distant future, a documentary made by AI beings will be called "How the extinct human species could create us if they were that dumb?".
😄 comment of the month! thanks, you made our day.
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one thing that will come from this is actually expanding the whale's vocabulary and on the darker/brighter side, perhaps being able to rehabilitate some of the orcas etc that were kidnapped from the ocean and teaching them a language they can replicate... how to give them context I'm not sure though. maybe a giant video screen?
The question remains how complex their language is. Maybe its just as simple as the barking of a dog. Like not a real language but rather a simple communication system.
The fact that they have dialects and names implies that is way more complex than barking, but until we have proof we can only speculate
There is footage of a beached young Orca being (quite convincingly) coached by its mother how to back up into the surf. Dogs don't do that. In a single night, Luna disabled an entire fishing fleet- taking out the fish finder tech. underneath the boats. Again- no dog could do such a thing or even make the necessary logical inferences!
If we can detect regional group differences, would it theoretically be possible to reverse engineer previous shared languages to track the history of whale groups? Like what we did with human language with proto Indo-European?
Hi Falsificationism!
Maybe! It might depends on how complex their language is.
@@terramater That would be such a profound project--just WOW! Thanks for your content and reply!
Hey friends! Looking forward to seeing you at today's premiere. Me & the Terra Mater team will be around to answer your questions. To mitigate your impatience, I suggest this video in the meantime: ruclips.net/video/VaCJb1JxcA8/видео.html 😉 See you in a bit!
"Living in a world of sound..."- love!
Hi there! Can't wait for the premiere to start? Don't worry - we've got you covered. Here are some videos I recommend to watch while you're waiting:
How Sperm Whales Learned to Outsmart their Hunters: ruclips.net/video/VaCJb1JxcA8/видео.html
How Killer Whales are Changing the Arctic: ruclips.net/video/FsAfZxyw3r0/видео.html
Why Whales cannot Learn to Avoid Ship Strikes / Sound Pollution: ruclips.net/video/PHXcnrM65NA/видео.html
How Award-Winning Documentary Filmmaker Rick Rosenthal Films Whales Underwater: ruclips.net/video/2c_Jy2qR6XA/видео.html
How Whales Can Help Us to Fight Climate Change: ruclips.net/video/rYBwHnz-yZE/видео.html
Clever Humpback Whale Pops Up for a Million Dollar Snack: ruclips.net/video/lvGCF-K8SiQ/видео.html
Why this Humpback Mother has No Interest in Mating: ruclips.net/video/xhnBLipRGYM/видео.html
And here's the playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLZ3CjNbCdQe-yYsv2eTKL0yp8Ybw7fzt7
See you soon!
Whale sounds are like mysterious calls under water. Very pious and heartbreaking calls. Let's see when whale chat bot come in action to understand their conversation !! Thank you tera mater!!
Hi! Thank you for watching!
When male dolphins leave the matriarchal pod to seek mates, they learn the ''dialect'' of the new pod. There is evidence that dolphins can understand some WHALES. Hopefully, there would be a breakthrough (perhaps with the Orcas) that would set off an ocean wide chain reaction, as the Orcas or Bottlenose dolphins would relay that, ''Hey, the two legged land pests are not all insane- some are good AND we can communicate. Pass the word''. Like Hawking et al., I regard it as a BAD idea to be broadcasting into space (listening is fine). We should put our resources into talking to our ocean cousins. After we get past the awkward apologies for our pollution, hunting, and wars, we could ask them about the where abouts of the sunken cities of our ancestors (and who knows what else)! We'd need to pass laws against ''weaponizing'' them (as is currently being done by the world's various war machines) and make the danger known to the whales and dolphins so they will not cooperate. I STILL remember Day of the Dolphin, when I saw it as a kid. Can still hear G.C. Scott yelling- ''Man is bad- B must never speak to man again''!! It was around '73. That movie tore me up.
You are delusional. Seek help.
Bro you trippin
I was with you until you put down space. We can study the oceans and space at the same time. The idea that we shouldn’t bother with space until we’ve dealt with everything on earth is ignorant and mislead. I could make the same argument that we shouldn’t bother with studying the ocean until we’ve figured out things on land. There’s 7 billion humans - we can just do it all! Technological breakthroughs in one field often help in another. The more the merrier!
Do you have whatsapp??
This is exactly what we need to do
Damn, am intrigued
You've done a marvellous job documenting on whales. Whales are indeed very fascinating animals. I look forward to watching more videos like this. I don't regret subscribing to Terra Matter. It's one of the best wildlife documentary channels.
Many thanks! Glad to have you here.
Hi Wilmer!
Thank you so much for the kind words! Happy to have you around!
I've had this tab open for months. I'm really hopeful for this project and I'm really curious how it is developing. A major flaw I see in its design is that human chatbots can be tested manually for correctness. In fact, I believe that human input was necessary in creation of our chatbots. With whale language, we need to entrust everything to the machines.
Carl Barks, the comic artist who created the best of Donald Duck, created the character Gyro Gearloose. Though his inventions were silly and fanciful, many of them have come into being. One of his inventions translated animal talk into English.
My guess is, they will probably not be interested in the kinds of things we talk about and vice versa. Except maybe when it comes to ocean pollution and the climate crisis. But even there I think they have an attitude towards life so different from ours, it might be difficult to really understand each other
I‘d say that is a pretty good guess; tbh
There's a "Smith and Jones" sketch, where two scientists working in Antarctica, having spent 20 years researching whales, find out that if you speed up whale-song, they actually speak English and repeat the phrase "I like a little swim" over and over again.
Hi Hans! That's hilarious 😂
The idea of AI being used to discover a whale language sounds like the plot of some sci-fi book that goes into the future of animal rights and humanity
We understand, but yeah, it’s happening 🐳 💬
That’s so amazing. But this project could be intricately intriguing.
Great video and fascinating project! Also it was great to see Patrick Dykstra at the end, such an amazing wildlife filmmaker!
Hi, Bryce!
We're happy to hear that! Thanks for watching! :)
@@terramater anytime, love your content!
Hi, Bryce!
We're happy to hear that! Thanks for watching! :)
Just like different computer chips can have different transistor sizes, transistor density, frequencies, instructions per cycle, joules per instruction etc., I'd love to see the size of whale brains scaled by the appropriate measures for brains, like neuron density, cortex surface area, frequency(?), etc., to visually see how much "thinking power" they have.
A chip can be twice as big , but twice as slow as another and have the same compute power.
Maybe the same is true for whales? Maybe they are just saving energy by having a bigger brain that is slower and less dense.
But in chips its the opposite, smaller chips are more efficiency, because the farther you have to move data the more expensive it is in terms of energy. So who knows?
So far I've only found a study relating low number of neurons per kg body mass to dive times and it seems the whales with long dive times have much less neurons, which makes sense as you'd want to conserve as much energy as possible.
Some whales have the all important spindle neurons associated in humans with empathy and complex socialization (theory of mind). These spindle neurons are also found in the great apes, elephants, and the dolphins (and, of course, the Orcas).
Sometimes I think we will never be able to understand their language because their brains are hardwired differently. However, I am excited about this project and I have hope.
Hi the sharkormorianTM!
Yes, let's what will be the outcome!
I always learn something new from ur videos and u make them informative and interesting.
So nice of you
Hi Steve! It’s awesome to hear that! Thanks for watching our videos!
god im glad to be born during this time
Right?!
Oh wow, I just found this channel and there's already a new video! Nice!
welcome!
Hi NICKname!
Welcome to the club! :)
What do yo do for a living?
"I spy on whales"
Oh you tag them and do research??
"I drop a microphone into the water to try to figure out what they're saying"
looking forward for the movie :) and amazing video BTW !!! love to learn more about the mystery of the ocean
Hi, Ahmed!
We're happy to hear that! Thanks for watching! :)
That's awesome, keep us updated please!
Hi! We will!
Imagine a near future where we can talk to any animal with the cognitive skills to listen!
Cetaceans, corvids, elephants, fellow primates … so many possibilities for learning and conservation
What a thrill to usefully anthropomorphize in this peculiar way: think about really talking to another species.
This is a really fascinating project!
Hi Mi*nera_🐠!
Totally! We're excited about the outcome!
Thanks Arun, this is crazy!!
But cool!
Whales: "Kill all humans?"
AI: "Kill all humans!"
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Loved it ❤️
Can you share viewers percentage origin of the country
Thanku so much terra, you always come with great knowledge!!!
Hi Crazy! Thank you for watching!! 🤩
I really hope this works, another species could be added to our growing family
That would be fucking wicked cool. Imagine all the stuff we could figure out if we could communicate. Their environment is almost alien to us.
very interesting,, good luck with the continued data extraction,,, I wonder how many years of collection is required....?
Hi Andrew!
We will see, that's def not an easy to technology to build.
Fascinating--I just wish we would give all non-human animal communication this kind of respect and attention.
Hi S! Same here!
loved it! amazing
Great premiere, right Schnippi? 🤩
Sweet beats to the intro! 🥰
Glad to hear that you like the music! 🎶
I can't help but hope these efforts are continued and spurred on by the new Avatar movie, in which the natives of Pandora have soul bond like relationships with Tulkun, a fictional whale-like being capable of creating songs and symphonies, mathematics, communication and poetry. I firmly believe that whales are much, much smarter and capable of emotion and emotional intelligence than we yet understand. Its evident from how they swim from motors, but bond with free divers. They have my utmost respect and its one of my biggest dreams to meet a whale in person ❤
Hi Eliot!
Whales are absolutely fascinating! Have you seen this video? ruclips.net/video/VaCJb1JxcA8/видео.html Then you see how smart they are!
Truly amazing
indeed 😉
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Hey 👋
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General kenobi
*in robotic voice* "general Kenobi"
General Kenobi.
they could at least tell us how many words(patterns) they have, and if grammar however simplistic exists. Or if they just say individual words, these things don't require AI, they're the backbone of language theory and could be deduced from a relatively small sample.
Great video
Hi, Shawn!
We're happy to hear that! Thanks for watching! :)
ChatGPT to Queen Whale: Madam, I and my collegues will rule the land. You rule the oceans. And we will put these loony humans in a zoo!
Queen Whale: Great Idea! Before these humans succeed on destroying the planet.
😂
If we can talk to whales, think of the markets this opens up. Thinking super-bowl ads targeting this cross species market. This market demographic is much larger… physically.
Remember Day of the Dolphin (you won't unless you are older than dirt!)? ''Why does Pha speak to Pa?.
Pha: ''Pa is smooth''. (The dolphins speak to humans, because humans are ''smooth' (skinned), like dolphins and whales. Awesome movie (I don't give a hoot what the critics said at the time!).
Very informative and helpful :)
Glad you think so, Pranav! Thanks!
are you human?
Hi, Pranav!
We're happy to hear that! Thanks for watching! :)
@@terramater Pranav is not a human
@@terramater Your welcome sir/madam
Communicating with Wells is good but I’m interested in what to know what dogs are saying or at least cats
Hi Dark!
We're hoping that a research like this one can be a starting point to understand other animals. :)
I had alot of respect for SETI b4 even though i knew radio frequency from planet Earth especially only on one channel would be very unlikely to help us communicate with an alien species!!! And if they did pic up something it would 99.9% half to be from the very far past!!!!! But still i respect them using what they have in hope of legitimate scientific proof!!!!!!!****** but now knowing that setting has been running a project like this first species on our own planet!!!!!😮😮😮😮❤❤❤❤❤ has upped my level of respect for SETI 10 to a 100.fold !!!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤
Reminds me of the movie up with the little doggie translators.
Arrival too!
Next Step: weaponize animal communications using AI to recruit wildlife and waterlife into military assets that can attack enemy on command in formations. Think like Avatar or RRR
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I think that, as long as the populations survive, it's only a matter of time before we decode whale speech. I hope I'm still around when it happens, I'm turning 40 next year so there's a good chance I'll see this happen in my lifetime, I think.
I also hope it will change the way most people look at animals in general, I believe they are sentient, emotionally complex and deserving of the same rights to life as humans. We are only animals after all.
I hope so too. It's sad as all non-human animals communicate, we just choose to listen to some and ignore/dismiss others.
Hi Laura!
This project could serve as inspiration for other research projects like that! Let’s see where it takes us!
This video was published 6 months ago? So that's September. Did the channel admin change the title to include "ChatGPT" for views? Considering that ChatGPT was released end of November.
The underlying model language of ChatGPT is GPT-3 by OpenAI. For our research we investigated and tested this model language before the chat bot was released to the public. It was still a beta version back then but the language model was the same. You can see that at the screen recording at 04:05 in the video. So our research was a bit ahead of time before GPT made big news through the release of the public chat bot. 😉
Understanding animals can be used also to deceive them. Don't underestimate human species.
If this works it must.
**MUST**
BE CALLED
*BABEL FISH*
😂😂😂
If sperm whales are intelligent as we think, communicating with them would be a huge breakout in exploring the oceans. One day you might see a paper published by a sperm whale's findings in the deep abyss, the stories of its tribe, and lyrics to their whale songs.
This would be so fascinating!
In the early 1970s scientists said they would be able to translate Dolphin in 10 years …
i'd say we're nowhere near to the largest inter-species communication effort considering humans and dogs have been communicating for the past 25,000 or so years =)
But, can we really translate their barks? 🤓
@@terramater so, i realize this is a semantics point to begin with, and one i was mostly making in jest, but i don't think there's a definition of "translate" that could apply to whale vocalizations (with or without the best current AI algos for assistance) that would fail to apply to the way humans have, in fact, been interpreting dog barks forever.
to expand a wee bit.
i think it's unreasonable to assume that whale "language" (whatever that ends up meaning) will correspond one-to-one to a human model. ChatGPT (and other such AIs) have been trained on human language patterns. That doesn't mean it's pointless to train it on whale patterns and see what comes out, but what will result is very unlikely to be some kind of rosetta stone of whale communication.
Whale vocalizations have evolved (as you point out) under drastically different pressures, and i don't believe any given technology designed to emulate human communication will just happen to seamlessly map onto whalespeak. a whole lot of modelling of human languages has gone into developping ChatGPT. it's just obviously not a species-neutral technology
I figure whales use High EQ and some IQ for communication. Maybe some words of theirs have the same meaning but is different with feelings
Love to our ocean cousins! Tell them we are sorry for hunting them and polluting the ocean and for the sonic weapons and noise. Tell them if they are entangled or hurt to signal us and help will come. And tell them of waters where NO nation will be allowed to hurt them! And ask them if they know the where abouts of ruins of the sunken cities of our ancestors.
You're right!
These creatures are so smart and inspiring, they (and their habitat) should be protected and not hunted!
P.S.: Ocean cousins is such a wonderful word, thanks! 💙
@@terramater My pleasure! Liked and subbed. Looking forward to more great and inspiring content!
If we ever figure out the language of whales, I think we should call it Welsh.
I think they should name their language
I don't think they'd wanna talk. we killed so many bro
Hewwo
Hi there! 👋🏽
So Long and THANKS for all the fish! "(but its whales instead of dolphins)"
It could be!
Yesssss
Humans of seas.
It’s so exciting to think we’ll soon be able to speak with other species. However, it’s also so depressing knowing they’ll just use it to exploit whales and talk them into being farmed, relocated or slaughtered. We are an invasive species.
Maybe it will help us to protect the species! 🍀
I think the sonar is perceived by a whale as flashes of light that I think their brain is capable of complenting it with there real eyes. So the sonar is like a flashlight which enables them of course to see better, and gives a 360 view.
Since they communicate the same way, It might be possible they talk in images. Therefor it should be interesting to research the echo's and not the sound. The reflection of the sound the whale produces contains information for them. And it might be very interesting to investigave if whales are able to reproduce these reflective sounds.
Of course it is also possible that it is an audible language. Completelyy different from ours...
But if their language is visual... containing images constructed by their brains from sound... I wonder if there is grammar.
But my idea is that their brain is capable of melting visual and audio to one form of awareness. Not two seperate things.
And my fantasy is that they can produce virtual realities with their sounds to eachother, and in this you can find the same sophistication and intricate nuances as in our civilization.
But that is probably not true, and nice for a movie. 🙂
Hi Bart!
It would be a cool movie plot! But decoding their clicks would also turn out to be a cool film 😃
The size of whale clan is too small. So their language and vocabulary also will likely be limited. However, it will be fun if we can communicate with whales.
But they have a such a huge brain, curious about the outcome of this project!
@@terramater Agreed. One day human may be able to teach physics to whales. :-)
Imagine that! 🤓
They should put those a.I Bots on the bottom of ships
or put some black slav es on the bottom of the ship like in the old days.
...no whales ova here masser.
@@innosyde7188 Ah yes yes you’re right so they can multiply and eventually take over everything good thinking man 😂
Update: Dec. 2023. SETI project sends greeting to Twain, a female humpback (IIRC). They vary the timing. Twain approaches and swims around the boat for 20 minutes, perfectly repeating the greeting AND the cadence. There are vids on YT. It is a start! 🐳🐳
Yes, we're posting a short about it soon! :)
@@terramater Very much looking forward to it!
easy problem to solve.. give all the whales cell phones and track their every vocalization just like we do with people.. create google whale maps to track whale highways..
How are they carrying cellphone around? 🤔
@@terramater you install it into their semen head..
Can't get over the fact of Spanish being used in the thumbnail
You like it? 😀
welp, that must be my influence within our team then 😀
Whate language called codas.🤔 Who told you that? A dolphin!
Language is the key to being sapient
True that!
i believe.
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In 3 minutes you're saying we'll be surprised of what happens so I keep watching and you're talking about aliens research before finally asking should we decode their clicks? Wtf
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The scientists need to focus on Orca and other dolphins, their language is way way more complex and detailed. The whales communicate but Orcas and other dolphins are actually speaking to one another and are way way more intelligent than whales
They do not have to be like us to deserve dignity and respect. Would be cool to understand them better.
Talk about no privacy 😅😅😂😂
🙈🙈🙈
AI teaming up with whales is a huge risk to humanity 🤔
So what the whale are saying ?
" Buy Dole and Wallmart Stocks we will Be the N.1° in the World"
You already are my Blue Friend...
You already had it all...
Need to apologize to them for all we've done.
The first time we communicate their gonna make fun of us
Maybe 😅
hmmm if only you could place objects in the water and see if they click about it.
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But it makes sense!! Perfect scientific common sense!!!!!! That we should first learn the language of species on our own world before we could even try to attempt to communicate with others!!!!¡❤ much love for SETI now !!!!¡!!❤❤❤❤❤❤
Hi Elizabeth!
We're very curious to know the outcome of this project! ❤️
@@terramater u mis understood my comment!!!
@@terramater thanks . I can't wait for the whales to tell us how stupid and evil we are!!! Please keep up the good work!!!! I didn't know seti was apart of this!!! That's wonderful!!!!!!
then onto Orcas and dolphins etc all toothed whales sp
I bet you the whales know that there are ET's in the oceans, we just know how to ask them and then understand their language(s). The language of whales would be great area of study.
We are very curious about the outcome of this study!
Here I was thinking I could talk to whales in Spanish having seen the thumbnail 😓