They Actually Made a METALLICA Bass TAB Book For Basslines You CAN'T HEAR!
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- They Actually Made a METALLICA Bass TAB Book For Basslines You CAN'T HEAR!
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The isolated bass tracks show how much of a monster bassist Jason Newstead is. Dyers Ever and Blackened are amazing bass work.
Never heard Newstead do anything surprising, difficult, he's pretty basic.
@@joe78man have you listened to the isolated tracks?
@@joe78man Have you seen the live bass solos?
@@device1974They’re fairly sloppy, especially when you compare them to isolated Megadeth bass tracks. Not that that’s inherently a bad thing; Cliff’s isolated bass tracks were sloppy to a degree as well. But Jason used a pick, which makes it easier to be clean when you play fast. Listen to the isolated bass track for Holy Wars…The Punishment Due. It’s so tight and precise. Much better than any of Jason’s isolated bass tracks.
@@joe78man I really much agree with you. Yes he is pretty basic, when we talk about wha he did Metallica. But to my surprise since I have that opinion on him for a long time, when I heard him play with his old band Floatsom Jetson, or something like that. I was wow, Jason was actually a great bassplayer. He just didn't dare to apply that in Metallica. It´s a shame.
Honestly, some of the bass lines in this may make you work harder than you need to but I still gotta say that some of the parts still sound really cool
I guess the Surfrock part isnt one...
I'm guessing the transcriber may have also pulled spme live performances by other bass players because some sound kinda familiar
@@pedrofreitas4262 well metal is just surf rock with distortion
@@michealpersicko9531 Not really. Metal's roots are closer to blues.
@@Vykk_Draygo OId metal, sure. Modern metal couldn't be further from blues if it tried.
One pretty much introduced me to Metallica too. I heard it and bought the single then later the album .
How about bass tabs for KEM, RTL and MOP?
To be fair, those notes shown at 3:27 are actually played by Jason on live shows
This album got me through a lot.
I love these
Are you saying Jason didnt oversee or approve the official bass tabs before release?
I thought the books Eye of beholder passage was amazIng....
Well yeah. AJFA, with the tab book was essentially a coloring book for bassists.
AJFA is just a huge bass backing track
Maybe Lars was helping Jason by doing that.
Sounds balls fat r/
Mirrored the guitar tracks so well and was then dropped in the mix, poor Jason got done over hard on his first 'Tallica album. The Garage Days EP he played on had a much better sound, as did the Black Album.
Hahahahahahaha
Yeah and it’s slightly out of tune so it’s a pain to play along with.
OMG you're telling me Blackened was so much simpler on bass than it actually was???? I learned the entire song tabbed out that way just to find out it was easier the ways you showed it 😭
EDIT: Thank you though for actually doing this episode! I didn't realize how much easier certain songs would be thanks to you! So thank you for showing me that there is actually less complex parts on certain parts of the bass tracks, but Blackened especially 😅
Which is funny since Jason wrote that riff
Interestingly, the tab is closer to how I would write the bass line, and the way it's explained is how I would expect a guitarist to think it should be played, even if it's the right way.
Even dyers eve on guitar is 1000x easier when played the right way.
Fun fact: In the AJFA deluxe box set released a few years ago, they had included rough mixes of the album which is one of the closest times (Guitar Hero versions are also applicable here) Metallica has gotten to releasing the album with its bass
Maybe with AI we can somehow recreate the missing bass in the album once and for all
@@solacesThere are already plenty of people that have uploaded the entire album with Jason’s original bass increased.
Such a shame. Jason did such a good job on this album and got screwed
The isolated bass tracks are BADASS.
LMAO Did they not pay him..lmao
As pointed out, he still got paid. And in the editing the bass wasn't intentionally left out.
@@timothyhouse1622not so sure about that
To him he didn't get screwed. In an interview he said how it turned out is how it was supposed be and I immediately lost some respect for him for saying that
As a bass player, this is amazing.
Love seeing you on bass and covering Jason.
There's Isolated tracks from Rock Band and Guitar Hero Metallica for the songs:
Blackened (RB1 DLC)
AJFA (RB1 DLC)
One (GHM)
The Shortest Straw (GHM)
Dyer's Eve (GHM)
And yeah Jason's playing is monstrous. Complex stuff? Maybe not, but the intensity is what makes him a great player to me
TGhe thing is... tab books for Justice have existed way before those games. So how accurate these are is anyone's guess.
Jason can definitely play some complex stuff if you've ever heard his solo work, or other bands he was in like Flotsam and Jetsam. Something tells me his skill was why James and Lars initially selected him to replace Cliff, but then they probably told him to tone it down for the AJFA recordings. (And then slapped him in the face by turning down his bass tracks for good measure, but that's the part of the story everyone already knows.)
@@Jayteaseepiirturi The tracks on the game are accurate....they're the actual tracks. Shame those are the only one from the album...a complete set would enable a proper mix to be made.
One for us bass players. Thanks, dude! Nice bass tone, BTW.
What I realized from watching this video is that I love all songs from this album, no exceptions.
Same. This album and RTL are two albums that I dont hate a single song on
I think the reason on why some of the riffs are harder then the original is because they probably watched some metallica live videos and we all know how crazy jason goes on the justice songs 😅
Don't dismiss the octave jumps. Jason was known for those. He had a very disco-bass style to him.
It's the easiest way to achieve movement/momentum without doing too much. It's an efficient composition technique.
@@dpclerks09bassist detected
I did actually buy the book 30 years ago or so. I asked my bass teacher "how can they transcribe the bass part, I can't hear anything". To which he replied "they probably use gigantic monitors and crank up the bass using EQ". Yeah, right.
If you take any AJFA track and band pass the bass frequencies ~40 to 100 HZ, where bass guitar normally lives in an album, there is basically nothing there XD. The only thing living there is the kick drum
@@ThiruelAztherokand we know why
@@ThiruelAztherok "...the kick drum"
Hmmmmm...
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The transcriber is a legend in my book for making a passable attempt at the impossible and making more interesting stuff where he wasn’t sure. Definitely more dubious from an educator’s standpoint to add complications in without the belief they’re there but I wouldn’t say outright bad choices. At least most of this would be functional with the record unlike many other tabs.
I got that book when it first came out.
One of the things that blew me away was how loud in the mix Jason was on Garage Days compared to And Justice for All.
This. I always think of Garage Days Re-Revisited and yeah the production isn't great but there is audible decent bass. And they talk like they just came off tour, our ears were fried. Horseshit, they did 6 songs on with a mix that honestly sounds rougher but better than Justice. Still have my Cherry Lane Slayer and Metallica books. Sabbath too. You'ld think I would learn to read music after 30 years but nah.
@@amandahuginkiss6868 Not like you're getting paid to do it.
Fun fact: Jason wrote the Blackened main riff.
Thanks for busting out the big guitar and giving us bassists some time. Also: super cool Defender and Robotron marquees in the background!
Honestly, when I heard that bit at 5:08, my first thought was "That kinda sounds like 'if Cliff had played it'".
Without hearing it in the context of the song though, it's hard to say if it's "better" than no audible bass or not. 😅
It's how I learned it, and I think it sounds better than the simplified version.
I thought a lot of the tab parts sounded like Cliff parts.
All the octave stuff really gave me cliff vibes yeah
Jason should re-release AJFA with the bass turned up and guitars turned down.
Especially since he's back to playing bass guitar.
I still get excited when I listen to the album, and I can hear those few parts when the bass bleeds through.
I would love to hear a tab-accurate version of Blackened. Between the bass and the guitar tabs it would be... an experience. 😂
For now. ruclips.net/video/bJLrzyfSNu8/видео.html
@@TheArtofGuitar I can't believe I missed that video! Showcases just how bad the tab book really is (especially with those missing palm mutes). Upon reflection, maybe adding in the terrible bass would be too much... Maybe... 🤣
Ill never get tired of this series. Also perfect timing for the bass tab vid ( especially with another Metallica vid lol ) cause i just got my first Bass guitar couple weeks back and Metallica is practically like 80 percent all of what I've been playing/trying to learn lol. They got quite a few sick bass lines that I've never heard as clear before till recently. Especially on the And Justice for All album, makes me.respect and love Jason even more trying to play these cause quite a bit of these riffs he did are pretty fun and go hard when Jammin along with it lol.
Those octave jumps and other fills in One are actually what Jason plays live, you can hear the bass super well in MTV's ReLOAD, Rehearse, Request in 1998.
Yes but the tab book is for the album.
@@TheArtofGuitar of course! I think you should have mentioned the live part in your video, but I'm just being nitpicky. You make great videos!
I really just want to hear a mix where every instrument is played note for note from these trash tab books, lol.
There was a guy James Mason who has a channel that had five distinct mixes of the album based on intensity. It was super well mixed and I recommend it for any bass heads. The sweet spot for me is either 3 or 4 depending on the song, but everyone is different.
Definitely search it out if you can still. It completely circumvents the issues Hetfield had stated previously on adding the bass back in.
I would love to see a series where someone does a cover of a song or album entirely as it's presented in the tab books. All instruments from the same company/person if possible, just to hear how big the differences are.
2:23 -- it's also maddening because Newsted has writing credits on the song. In fact, *THE MAIN RIFF WAS HIS* , as far as I'm aware.
(he isn't credited on *ANY* other song on the album btw...)
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It was turned down because Everyone else had bass turned up, and Jason kept playing what James was playing. And it’s not like they Murderfaced him during concerts.
Some of the bass lines out of the tab book are actually good. Too bad it's not part of the album.
10:50 reminds me of Money by Pink Floyd for some reason.
Best comedy is when you don't expect to laugh. This is such an unintentional funny video. Just bursted laughing on the surfing part.
Back in the mid-to-late 90's I was in possession of a copy of this exact tab book and I couldn't, for the life of me, wrap my head around the bass tab playing along with the record (err, CD). I was somewhat new to the bass and I questioned my musical abilities more so than I do now. None of the bass lines according to the book made sense to me. It was unbelievably frustrating. So, I just doubled the guitars when we played AJFA covers, and would add what I could figure out from watching videos of Jason playing.
I can’t even feel the bass in AJFA.
Makes me wonder if I'm just feeling the low end of the rhythm guitars.
I think its my car stereo being bad.
Ever since Cliff sadly died, Metallica has less bass or audible bass on the songs, they wasted Jason's talent and are wasting Robert Trujillo's talent on the bass as well
Even _Ride the Lightning_ had the bass turned down. Heck, it could be louder on _Master of Puppets._
Fun fact: The engineer got quite pissed and wanted someone else to mix the album because of lars. Lars wanted one specific drum sound that sounded bad or something? (can’t remember it that well) and then Lars told him to lower the bass volume til it’s barely audible, then later when they met the engineer again lars asked something along the lines of “What happened to the bass?” thus creating “Adjust It For Lars”
When did this book come out? I was suspicious with Blackened but with Dyers Eve also. Either this guy did some major sleuthing has the best hearing ever or he's actually friends with Jason and or watched and filmed close up
Thank you for the video. I have that tab book and tried learning the songs from it back in the early nineties.
Hahaha! I own a copy of this book! Bought it on circa 1995 or something like this.
P.S. Your bass strings are old as hell, am I right? Hahaha!
P.S. 2: There is isolated bass from the recording (from Guitar Hero and Rock Band) for both Blackned and And justice for all.
Yeah, too lazy to change them. ;)
Those tab books are not even accurate
As a bass player, this is great! Really loved you going over the interesting details, thanks 🙂 Yousician has lots of metallica stuff but i can never get into the bass parts.... maybe because i've never really heard them in the songs 😆. Nice shirt too 🙂
This tab book is when Charles Berthoud plays Metallica.
Hey, go easy, they probably had to hire a dog to hear and transcribe the bass parts.
2:16 -- neither. *He's just TROLLING with it all* with his subtle humorous comments in the book's introduction !! :D
Doesn't help with the scooped mids😂
To be fair, some of the tab books parts sound way better than what Jason was playing.
The title track's isolated bassline is available on RUclips.
Yup. Blackened and AJFA are from Rock Band; Shortest Straw, One, and Dyers Eve are from Guitar Hero (both have the same master isolated tracks). Harvester of Sorrow, Eye of the Beholder, Frayed Ends of Sanity, and To Live Is To Die are all extracted via software or recreations (I don't think Metallica has made their stems available).
i feel like most of these errors are from bad speakers...especially like at 9:20(ish), with the octave-pops...it couldve just been a blown speaker hitting that resonant harmonic, and 'faking' a different-octave note...
12:19 that’s how it would’ve been if Les Claypool ended up joining Metallica
While ...And Justice For All was never in Guitar Hero, it was in Rock Band, so probably there's some isolated track there
12:20 This is how Lemmy would play it lol
Maybe I’ve got a bit of Mandela effect going on, but I swear that on the Seattle Live Shit performance of Blackened, Jason does a really cool descending part during the middle section and no-one ever comments on it. Am I just imagining things?
4:42 If you listen to Live Shit, that’s pretty much what he plays there. Was surprised to hear that, but it sounds really cool.
EDIT: He actually plays that part a bit later in that middle section.
Do something cliff era or black album i don’t care just make another one
This is a hilarious tabs book given the history of the bass mix for this album and the inability to have track isolation tech! It would be even more hilarious if you could somehow get Metallica to watch your takes on this video serious to see how accurately you’re fixing the bad tabs - and more importantly, to make hilarious comments about the state of these totally botched books! (Like you said, it’s somewhat excusable for the bass tracks on this album, BUT if this was an official transcription sold by the band, you’d think they would have given the transcriber free passes to some concerts to watch and listen too, or dare I suggest, had the band themselves approve the final versions.
I know they were always busy, but I always wonder why they didn’t just provide the damn tabs themselves - wouldn’t you think each part was written down with pen on paper or typed for the band to refer to during practice? I think I’ve even seen tablature and/or standard notion during practice session footage. All it would have taken was a copying machine and passing that over to the publisher, lol.
It would be so crazy if you could also get the band to play their own official books as a group to hear the entire shit show - whether as a RUclips series or playing them live. They have a fun sense of humor. I bet they’d be game!
Dude, you gotta pitch these ideas to them directly and their management! Imagine the press they’d get for being the first band ever to play and record their own bad tabs! Might turn out awesome for all we know, or more likely, it would be a literal lol wtf moment where fans could share a unique laugh alongside the band!
Ty! You always put your all into your videos. I always finish watching them with laughs and smiles - and I always learn some important lessons along the way! It’s a Ride The Lightning type situation for your vids: hang on and enjoy the thrills, chills, and spills! 😂😂😂
There is a bass track for ...And Justice for All. It's playable as dlc in 'Rock Band' & Harmonix mixed it to include the bass track
Sadly this book is probably just like all the others. Wrong.
I always find it funny that Metallica hired Bob Rock because they wanted their albums to sound more powerful and polished, but the only reason AJFA didn't sound better in terms of production was because Lars decided to ignore every piece of feedback and recommendations from Steve Thompson, who mixed the album and also did Appetite for Destruction the year before, and no matter what you think about GnR as a band, has some of the best Bass and drum sounds in a rock album.
The bad tab series are one of the best things in all of RUclips 🔥😄✌️
And can you do the best tab books too? Back in the day I used to think the Slayer books were pretty good. I am actually curious how good they were now.
If you can't hear them, well, the whole album is a bass backing track then
You can tell this is super accurate to how Metallica would play it, because Frayed Ends of Sanity is entirely absent
The tab book come out to let Lars know that the bass is supposed to be in the mix
This is probably the one time I can understand them making bass mistakes on a bass tab
It's good to play with conviction and confidence. If you doubt yourself, your mind will wander and you tend to make errors.
Lets haze our new bassist by making our album sound less cool than it could have.
Are the pages blank…? Or written in invisible ink…?
Allegedly, Lars said it was a result of the heavily scooped mids of the guitars, plus ear fatigue from being on the road, meaning they turned the bass down as it was muddying up the music
Just my 2¢
Could have turned it and the kicks down at the same time but no
Really sucks they won’t remix this album.
I mean, they can hide it away like the remaster of Death Magnetic if need be. Just give it to us!
Remaster of Death Magnetic?
@@BarrySwords I guess they meant the iTunes version of DM which is mastered a bit differently. It sounds less compressed and has less clipping.
Thank you for the video. Honestly, it inspired me, to pick up and learn Bass!
I remember playing Master of Puppets (with guitar) for years wrong. It always sounded somewhat off but with enough distortion I didn't mind. Then I found out what was the problem. (well, the real problem is I can't play by ear)
In tabs the riff went: E-F#-C, E-F#-C#, E-F#-D
When it actually goes: E-F-B, E-F-C, E-F-C#
But if you play it the wrong way, I reckon it is much better or at least happier! :)
Lars "Kill the bass, theyll love it. we're gods"
*35 years later*
Art-Of-Guitar "heres the bass we wanted to hear since day one"
14:19 Tbh you could play that sometimes as a variation of the main riff
Jason kinda does this to the verse riff sometimes on the isolated track
Its amazing how they got those basslines with no bass on AJFA
That's kinda funny, they hazing us w this like they hazed Jason 😂
The rumor is that the bass tracks used in Guitar Hero and Rock Band are not Newsted. Everyone just assumes that it is.
I'd believe it but it's the best we've got to go off of. :)
Kinda bummed that these aren't the real basslines! All those extra fills kinda sound great compared to Jason's stupidly simple parts in the original (although James and Lars are probably to blame for that).
Tried to find something played by Newstead elsewhere and yes, he's that simple and dull
"Jason would just double my guitar parts."
Idol though you be, you've been playing music for fifty years, and really don't know that bass and guitar occupy two different frequency ranges, and can't blend together to obscure the bass? Really?
The walk down at 5:15 that the book references actually sounds badass.
NGL, lots of his bass lines sounded cool
Atleast the transcriptions sound good unlike most of the other bad books
I can never hear the bass. on almost anything.. My ears. they hate me.
My girlfriend says the same thing, but here is my theory. We really can hear the bass guitar, but we just don't realize we are hearing it. Look up isolated guitar tracks and listen to how thin they sound, then go back and listen to the entire mix. You will most definitely hear the bass fill everything out with low-end. It's subtle, but it's there. If the bass was any louder, it would overpower the guitars and we'd hear a lot of clanking against the frets from the bass strings.
Now that I understand more of how recordings and masters work, how on earth has there not been a remaster with bass equalized better??? They've already done a remaster re-release of And Justice For All and it doesn't seem to be better from what I've seen / heard. I understand that they didn't mix things professionally and mostly did it themselves before Black Album so maybe a good version to do this isn't available, or perhaps they don't have access to them for some reason, but geez. I'm sure dedicated fans would pay good money for that
During production, Lars and James’ parts were mixed in a way that conflicted with where the bass was in the mix. They wanted a garage sound with a little less bass like on their previous records, but supposedly Lars told the mixing engineer “I want you to bring down the bass where you can barely audibly hear it in the mix.” And when they did, Lars said “Now drop it another 5 db”.
I think those fills and "complex" stuff sounds better than the "simple" versions. And Jason played them in this way too at live shows. But yeah, the book is for the album. Live stuff is different.
I think Jason played with a 5 string guitar
He did. I think the book assumed most people would be on a 4-string.
The guy writing the book rocks. He was so creative.
and say I bought it as a teenager !!! finally realizing decades later -thanks to the master tracks available on the net- that this book was a total mess :/
An entire bad tab band would be wild! 😂
Justice For Jason
The book may be made for the album but i think the song book was meant to help new bass players learn how toget good at it while also being able to stand out live. Afterall a lot of the bass jason does live is shown here. Just a theory.
My favourite Metallica album. Now ...AJFA haters can't bully me because of bass.
My favourite band is Pink Floyd so don't call me like" Ohh you only likes complicated riffs and fast riffs" too.
I bought this book back in the early 90s wanting to learn the bass lines. I wasn't aware at the time of the fact that Newsted had been essentially mixed out of the album.... I do remember reading through some of the tabs, playing along thinking "I can't hear that! "
Yep. This is me. I bought this book when it came out.
Of course there's an AJFA title track bass track from Guitar Hero!
The songs are; "Blackened", "... And Justice For All", "One", "The Shortest Straw" and "Dyers Eve".
I checked the Guitar Hero track list and didn’t see it. Heard it’s Rock Band tho.
@@TheArtofGuitar It's among the isolated tracks from Guitar Hero: Metallica, for sure. Even did my own mix with bass and everything. I can email you the isolated track, if you like.