Carl Jung and Christianity wih Jakob Lusensky

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  • Опубликовано: 9 янв 2025

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  • @astrogumbo
    @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

    05:35 hell yea. we on solid foundations now.. and this is when the viewer must pay attention.
    we all must state our limitations. I dig it. Not many (none) give this off the rip.

  • @privatebeatandmelody
    @privatebeatandmelody 7 месяцев назад +2

    Steiner said that psychology is science of the soul and that they don’t believe in the soul.

  • @fargarden
    @fargarden 7 месяцев назад +3

    Jung: wholeness
    Christ: holiness

  • @mostlydead3261
    @mostlydead3261 7 месяцев назад +6

    based schizo comment section for a based schizo channel..

  • @Nithael_
    @Nithael_ 7 месяцев назад +1

    A lot of the answers to the questions in the podcast are very superficial. Jung himself provides much better answers to many of these questions in his works. This is not the space for it, but those answers could be directly quoted in response to these questions. The best answer from the podcast,that is actually accurate, is that Jung believed that many of the unresolved questions in Christianity are addressed in the Alchemical tradition. Not provided, but critical to evaluate is this discussion is his views on the newer Catholic dogma of the Assumption. Jung also states multiple times in various works that he doesn’t believe westerners should adopt other religious traditions when they do not even understand Christianity. He also states that his work might lead a person back to Christianity.

  • @ubiktd4064
    @ubiktd4064 7 месяцев назад +3

    I don't even know what people are talking about when they talk about "God".
    Are you saying the universe is specifically interested in humans?

    • @TryingToFollowChrist37
      @TryingToFollowChrist37 7 месяцев назад

      No, God would normally indicate an almighty mind that is timeless, shapeless, and totally non material that existed before the universe and caused the universe into existence. Someone that believe this is a "theist." Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, and Neo Platonism would fall into the "theist" category as well as others.
      What you have described is what is known as a "pantheist," one that believe the universe and all of reality is God but an impersonal being or an energy. Buddhist would fall into this category, and I would say personally I think it's one step closer to atheism. It just that they believe you can tune in to the universe and ask it for things or be your true self, although to be fair that's more of a western stylization of it.
      I hope that helped, can't be much hard than learning new pronouns.

    • @phantomggg
      @phantomggg 7 месяцев назад

      Involved in humans is probably a better way to understand this relationship

    • @ubiktd4064
      @ubiktd4064 7 месяцев назад

      @@phantomggg
      What is?
      What is involved with humans?

    • @Eezzy108
      @Eezzy108 7 месяцев назад

      @@ubiktd4064
      The universe is interested in itself and is not human
      We place a word call human on this existence

    • @ubiktd4064
      @ubiktd4064 7 месяцев назад

      @@Eezzy108
      Humans are a mere blip in the history of the universe or the planet.
      Puffed up self importance in that we are in some way instrumental to what is going on is hilarious.

  • @astrogumbo
    @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

    15:00
    THE ULTIMATE QUESTION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @astrogumbo
      @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

      humble and kindly responding: WRONG ANSWER
      strait gnostic mumbo jumbo

  • @astrogumbo
    @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

    14:19 dammit i cant prove it but Id wager he was Maranno:)

  • @astrogumbo
    @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

    this is the part where I ask Mr Lusensky: You a Marrano?

  • @dunsbroccoli2588
    @dunsbroccoli2588 7 месяцев назад +7

    Data currently sits on the throne.
    The problem that I have with viewing Christianity through the lens of psychology is that it’s psychology as a whole that needs to sit on the couch while God analyses. God is not a tool and thus cannot be an idol. Psychology is only a tool and Europeans in their hubris have very subtly placed gnosis above God by way of analysis.
    This technique obsession is the core of the problem which Christian faith demands one forgoes in the belief of Jesus as messiah and saviour of mankind. It’s an idea that thrusts one beyond the ability to analyze. It’s too much to comprehend and is, as a result awe inspiring and worthy of worship.
    The need to “understand” is the core of rational materialist neurosis. It’s a type of suicide that produces material hallucinations we consider progress. Really, they aren’t much more than very sophisticated distractions. Our entire world is obsessed with them. We produce problems in our ignorance and then through our most subtle of ignorance remedy them in a way that marginalizes God. It’s pride.
    We want to be rid of God in order to be God ourselves, not realizing that by avoiding submission to God we forfeit that reality, which was always the intention for Adam. The tree of knowledge is not the tree of life. The tree of knowledge bares fruit of the most vast illusion. It’s the maya, samsara, ignorance.
    Imagine, to have paradise given to you by birth and to throw it away for the hope of paradise. This is the human condition. It can only be remedied by humility. One must offer the desire to know on the altar to God. Only God knows and only God can convey such a thing to us. In the deepest sense there is no difference and it’s a matter of remembering.
    May this all burn away, bringing us back home.

    • @Nithael_
      @Nithael_ 7 месяцев назад

      Yes Data is the new idol. Byung-Chul Han in Psychopolitics and many other works explain the “digital panopticon”. The “mechanisms of control” have evolved since Foucault’s formulations of “disciplinary society”.

  • @AdrianHackman
    @AdrianHackman 7 месяцев назад

    I have been reading Jacob Böhme and that is where I find a lot of similarities with Jung.

    • @As-fs6qd
      @As-fs6qd 7 месяцев назад

      no no no...

  • @astrogumbo
    @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

    one last lil rip for Jacob
    "wrestling with Christianity"
    i ask just pray the Rosary ONE TIME
    Peace:)

    • @astrogumbo
      @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

      if those tings wanna reach out and touch again my fren, i beg you hede my request....09:30-09:39
      especially now aware of the fact that you weren't exposed to it ever.
      society has major tendencies to conjure up eggregores to the public exposing Christians as weak and all dat shit.....well this is just a cherry on top fren....

  • @astrogumbo
    @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

    dis word title jambalaya has got me feeling some type of way

    • @astrogumbo
      @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

      01:18 screaming out loud AF currently
      WHAT I TOLD YOU
      berlin

    • @astrogumbo
      @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

      fwiw i noticed it after i typed it but that really aint the point....just records

    • @astrogumbo
      @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

      what kinda socialism ah la carte
      "Christian"

    • @astrogumbo
      @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

      homie you ever attended THE Latin Mass.

  • @privatebeatandmelody
    @privatebeatandmelody 7 месяцев назад

    Isn’t the red book years of conversations with his guardian angel?

    • @kirroberts
      @kirroberts 7 месяцев назад

      There arent any angels in it, Philemon is a little bit angel-like but not really, and hes only one character among many. He encounters all sorts of characters in the Red Book.

    • @astrogumbo
      @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад +1

      not sure but do you really wanna talk with fire my hero fren? I dont honestly.....Ive accepted (almost wholeheartedly now) that suffering is a part of the game....The longer you shun it , the more youre alloted:)
      Youre welcome

    • @astrogumbo
      @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

      @@kirroberts Philemon lol....never read any of this guys shit because I know where he comes from so whatever but this is just funny hahahah

    • @kirroberts
      @kirroberts 7 месяцев назад

      @@astrogumbo sounds like you only read shit if you dont know where the guy comes from, which is a respectable choice. I dont know where the guy comes from so i read his shit.

  • @JamesDixonMusic
    @JamesDixonMusic 7 месяцев назад

    This was great

  • @privatebeatandmelody
    @privatebeatandmelody 7 месяцев назад

    Can our Devine spark get sick?

    • @astrogumbo
      @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

      most born sick

    • @astrogumbo
      @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

      free will is a myth....kinda like "Capitalism"

  • @astrogumbo
    @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

    oh shit....

  • @As-fs6qd
    @As-fs6qd 7 месяцев назад +3

    thx mr lusenksy..but cant disagree more...jung also inherited Scottish rites the highest level of freemasonry and spiritualism. You forget that..he only appealed occasional to Christianity to maintain a respectable facade...the point of origin of the red book is not Christianity its teutonic German aryanism..in fact the red book is a name of a masonic book given to the highest level initatiate..the black book is the so called unwritten book of the yezidi stan worshippers ..red book is just a manual to revive the pagan gods that were kept at bay by christ and the saints for 2000 years..gog and magog/ktulu/awaiys have been summoned..

  • @astrogumbo
    @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

    any rational Catholic/Orth Christian could make Jung stumble just as You did (not criticizing my friend i promise) when asked WHO IS CHRIST

    • @astrogumbo
      @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад +1

      because it seems most of yall get hooked on the
      "hypocrite" notion.
      newsflash: DATS EVERYBODY. but by continuing to facepalm the Lord by going as far as denying he even existed AND THEN INVERTING THE SOLUTION.
      86 Christ, substitute HIGHER SELF into the solution.
      self and Christ
      just can't exist. its impossible and if you think youre in control of your life well then Ill reply like a unitarian:
      Well then Sir You must have many more lives to reincarnate on earth only for Shani to crucify until realizing you aint shit basically

  • @astrogumbo
    @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

    "jung very sensitive boy since very young"
    sure yall got kontext
    sadly nobody ever gave Mr Jung the tip to pray the Rosary
    I dare any meaux feaux claiming Catholicism aint shit to just pray it and see what happens
    Dont bitch out

    • @astrogumbo
      @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

      ok the Aquarian in me went off the rails but Saturn hauled me by the draws back here for correction:
      Do it one time for 40 days and then reassess
      Ave Maria

  • @astrogumbo
    @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

    SPOILER ALERT:
    JUNG WAS A CHRISTIAN HERETIC
    I will pray for him but I cant do shit about facts

    • @astrogumbo
      @astrogumbo 7 месяцев назад

      17:02
      for the "Christians" (more precisely the Roman Catholic Faith, which imho and being born into by only the good graces of my ancestors because Ive surely been no model)
      FROM THE LIPS
      proof

    • @Nithael_
      @Nithael_ 7 месяцев назад +1

      A good point, but while he may have dismissed the “historical Jesus” he understood the “eternal Christ”.