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    Ruud van Nistelrooy is a retired professional footballer and current
    assistant manager of the Dutch national team. He was a top scorer
    in three different competitions, including three times in the UEFA
    Champions League, crowned Premier League Player of the Season
    in 2003, and is Manchester United's all-time European record
    goalscorer. In 2010, he founded his own academy which focuses on
    the social development of children and the discovery of their talents.
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  • @tcpgblizzard
    @tcpgblizzard 8 лет назад +471

    I'd kill to have him, in his prime, back at United now. I've never seen a more natural goalscorer in my life; Ruud is a legend!

    • @recram16
      @recram16 8 лет назад +11

      +Robin Hood What he did in the Carling Cup final was inexcusable, but he apologised to Fergie. Then the Ronaldo incident, he meant to diss Queiroz and not Ronaldo's dad who passed away. Ruud's better than that, and seems like a decent lad. Rather remember him for all them goals

    • @flochforster88
      @flochforster88 8 лет назад +6

      +tcpgblizzard Did you murder someone and create Marcus Rashford?

    • @coby8531
      @coby8531 7 лет назад

      hi is the legendary striker

    • @jackjelf5986
      @jackjelf5986 6 лет назад +10

      tcpgblizzard people with low football iq always say 'he only scored tap ins' but people who know and have played football realize you've got to have great instincts to be in the right place right time.

    • @jslasher1
      @jslasher1 6 лет назад +1

      He certainly was a great goalscorer, but, then, those where the good old days at Man U.

  • @manchesterfellow
    @manchesterfellow 8 лет назад +209

    Ruud seems like a gentleman. He really thought about his answers and gave intelligent insights. He was articulate as well - so much for the stupid footballer stereotype.

    • @22grena
      @22grena 8 лет назад +3

      +manchesterfellow The stereotype is unfortunately true in Britain

    • @manchesterfellow
      @manchesterfellow 8 лет назад +10

      +22grena I think you are being unfair.

    • @22grena
      @22grena 8 лет назад +1

      manchesterfellow Ok name me three English footballers who are comparable to Ruud

    • @manchesterfellow
      @manchesterfellow 8 лет назад +14

      22grena in what regard?
      I assume you are talking about intelligence?
      Frank Lampard took a test at mensa and famously got one of the highest scores ever achieved. Le Saux has a degree and Glen Johnson is a Maths boffin. That's just of the top of my head and staying within your limitations of English players.

    • @22grena
      @22grena 8 лет назад +1

      manchesterfellow How about actual players and not every person who ever played

  • @charlesainscough5529
    @charlesainscough5529 7 лет назад +166

    ruud van nistelrooy what a fucking legendary player, very well spoken person too.

    • @leokorn1629
      @leokorn1629 3 года назад +6

      "fucking", "very well spoken person".....

    • @carrowroads2712
      @carrowroads2712 3 года назад +1

      @@leokorn1629 Aguero miles better

    • @cleehomes
      @cleehomes 3 года назад +3

      @@carrowroads2712 Aguero never played for a big club so I guess we will never know!

    • @NationOfMasturbation
      @NationOfMasturbation Год назад

      @@carrowroads2712 who

  • @ikilledosama88
    @ikilledosama88 8 лет назад +173

    We in "little" Malaga at La Rosaleda have not forgot you Ruud. Thank you for playing for us. A true modern day legend

    • @christophekingdom7924
      @christophekingdom7924 2 года назад +2

      I used to support MALAGA like a native, I am his forever fan and next year I'm going to spain on vacation and for sure I'll visit your stadium just to see in person where he made history once again.

  • @TMAS01
    @TMAS01 3 года назад +41

    I never knew he was so eloquent. Very intelligent man.

  • @air_mkb
    @air_mkb 2 года назад +15

    27:12 when he talks about Ronaldo Nazario. Brilliant.

    • @milo2324
      @milo2324 Месяц назад

      Thanks for writing the time!!!
      I saw him talking about Ronaldo in Shorts and wanted to see lonher version

  • @direndogan4567
    @direndogan4567 3 года назад +43

    If he hadn't had that massive injury when he was playing for PSV he would have been twice the scorer. It's mental, how good was his anticipation, positioning and finishing...

    • @mrt445
      @mrt445 Год назад +1

      He was like Haaland before Haaland.

  • @Richardtv1968
    @Richardtv1968 5 лет назад +69

    Top goalscorer in the Netherlands, England and in Spain ....absolutely amazing

  • @superstarsuj1
    @superstarsuj1 4 года назад +21

    Ruud van nistelrooy is legend !!! I have started watching football because of him...... 1st match I have watch is against arsenal when ruud missed the penalty.... What a golden days.

  • @josephm.6453
    @josephm.6453 8 лет назад +122

    the last traditional in the box striker to play football at top level. lewandowski is close to call him a traditional box player but he assists.
    ruud marked an end to an era

    • @uniqIo
      @uniqIo 8 лет назад +6

      Well said 👏

    • @Zakariyeistorres
      @Zakariyeistorres 7 лет назад +1

      Joseph M. Say hello Manuel Gabbiadini 🙌🏿

    • @tottirei1
      @tottirei1 6 лет назад +3

      Joseph M. How bout Pippo Inzaghi???One of the best to lace em up

    • @ljay2k12
      @ljay2k12 6 лет назад +1

      Mario Gomez

    • @herbangm.naibaho5405
      @herbangm.naibaho5405 5 лет назад +4

      Lukaku say Hi, but from along distance of level

  • @villeporttila5161
    @villeporttila5161 3 года назад +122

    Less than a minute in and he's already totally rinsed Keown. Good stuff

    • @shakeelumar8683
      @shakeelumar8683 3 года назад +7

      even as an arsenal fan that was gold

    • @mamamaumamam
      @mamamaumamam 3 года назад +8

      @@shakeelumar8683 "Thought you had to be clever to live here." That is the 4th degree burn over there.

    • @Eclipse2582
      @Eclipse2582 2 года назад +1

      @@mamamaumamam It’s a great soundbite for the audience, sure, but it is worth remembering that Martin Keown is actually Oxford born and raised.

  • @shikastormcrow6224
    @shikastormcrow6224 3 года назад +14

    Ruud...ahh United/Netherlands memories. Such a delight listening to him, he's so light hearted and a joker at heart x'D

  • @gp3646
    @gp3646 2 года назад +9

    I had NO idea he was so well spoken and such a gentleman!

  • @jonsmith7396
    @jonsmith7396 8 лет назад +31

    World class player makes my all time United team

  • @SS-hw8nd
    @SS-hw8nd 3 года назад +61

    There's something about dutch people. Van Nistelrooy, Van Persie, Manuel Schenkhuizen, they all have that same kind of rare quality I'm not sure what is. Wise gentlemen, extremely competitive and able. Love to watch them!

    • @andreidoanca4262
      @andreidoanca4262 3 года назад +7

      I would add to that list the likes of Denis Bergkamp, Arjen Robben and Wesley Snijder...they are indeed competitive personalities and at the same time really down to earth people.

    • @alborzajeli768
      @alborzajeli768 3 года назад +11

      Agreed. Dutch people in general seem to be well mannered, soft spoken gentlemen who carry themselves extremely well. Strangely enough, I've yet to meet one I didn't get along with or like.

    • @MM-vr8rj
      @MM-vr8rj 3 года назад +5

      Seedorf as well. Great man.

    • @raraccoon4412
      @raraccoon4412 3 года назад +4

      van djik too

    • @almawalker1432
      @almawalker1432 Год назад

      Don’t forget Dennis Bergkamp..wish he played for united. Amazing player and personality.

  • @shivasrinivasan80
    @shivasrinivasan80 2 года назад +11

    What wonderful praise he gave to R9. Such a clear statement of how amazing Ronaldo aka IL Fenomeno was. The power, skill and pace made him the greatest striker to grace the game.

  • @TheMancalorian
    @TheMancalorian 3 года назад +6

    Couldnt agree more he still one of my fave players and a legend, still got iconic red shirt with his name 'Ruud' on the back

  • @unitedman1423
    @unitedman1423 8 лет назад +14

    Ruud is one of the greatest ever at United. *Listen and grasp the praise and insight he gives concerning Louis Van Gaal.*
    The unpopular TRUTH is there and Ruud shows both sides of the argument regarding play style and why Van Gaal can succeed. #SupportLVG

  • @sab7786
    @sab7786 8 лет назад +17

    so honoured to have watched him play at Old Trafford. He was such a great player for United. This really shows such a class act that he is.

    • @VillaBoys123
      @VillaBoys123 8 лет назад +1

      Truly there are, unless you are a Madrid boy of course...

    • @alborzajeli768
      @alborzajeli768 3 года назад +1

      @@VillaBoys123 I'm a long time "Madrid boy" and I frkn love and adore this man also. He came to us in 07 when we really needed a proper goal scorer and he delivered us 27 league goals and a title to go along with it. We would have NEVER won anything that season if it wasn't for all the clutch goals and moments this man produced. I and most other Madrid fans are forever grateful to him, and will not soon forget him and the legacy he left at our club.

    • @pcgamerzzzchannel3407
      @pcgamerzzzchannel3407 Год назад

      @@alborzajeli768 real couldnt win la liga for 3 years with Zidane and Ronaldo crazy shit, ruud came in the right moment , to bad life is short he was plagued with injuries in his last 2 years, if it wasnt his age he could bring more la liga titles.

  • @sandeepg8930
    @sandeepg8930 3 года назад +5

    Top class striker. Top class human being.

  • @Tubingonline1
    @Tubingonline1 4 года назад +4

    This is really great. Thanks Oxford, for such a great interview.

  • @readventurekids
    @readventurekids 8 лет назад +37

    RvN comes across very well. Seems like an intelligent, down to earth guy. On a side note the interviewer strikes a great many similarities with Will from 'The Inbetweeners'.

  • @blademanx
    @blademanx 3 года назад +12

    Intelligent player. If you never saw him play live you missed out. Young strikers could learn a lot.

  • @nurilha
    @nurilha 5 лет назад +29

    Absolute legend - from a Liverpool fan.

    • @jayrun4758
      @jayrun4758 Год назад

      100% one of the best strikers in the premier leagues history liverpool fan myself

  • @Rajiv-Word
    @Rajiv-Word 8 лет назад +5

    Wow! Great discussion. What a legend, Ruud!

  • @united3689
    @united3689 3 года назад +3

    This guy is so smart! Pleasure listening to this United legend

  • @ahmedbdair4748
    @ahmedbdair4748 8 лет назад +58

    when he spoke about Milan I was about to start crying

    • @endlessacrificedsons
      @endlessacrificedsons 5 лет назад +17

      I don't know why but even I got tears in my eyes hearing about "that" Milan side...

    • @jejjkess8793
      @jejjkess8793 5 лет назад +11

      The best team ever.

    • @honigson8776
      @honigson8776 3 года назад +3

      Legendary era

  • @d1want34
    @d1want34 8 лет назад +39

    I liked how Ruud explains about the mindset of LVG, sadly there's simply not enough time for him to achieve that

  • @MarmiteCrumpets
    @MarmiteCrumpets 6 лет назад +5

    What a thoroughly likeable man with a great outlook.

  • @foadghavami2004
    @foadghavami2004 3 года назад +2

    One of the Great Knights of glorious era of our beloved Manchester United! Always smart with a view & vision.

  • @foadghavami2004
    @foadghavami2004 3 года назад +20

    This man is smart, i think whatever career he would choose, he would become well known.

  • @johnbatziolas780
    @johnbatziolas780 8 лет назад +6

    Netherlands and my country Greece are the biggest shocks not to qualify for UEFA Euro 2016, I know how Ruud and the Dutch are feeling, It Sucks. Especially straight of Good World Cup 2014 as well. Inspiring interview Ruud.

  • @nathantcheumegam3571
    @nathantcheumegam3571 6 лет назад +60

    His English is really good.

    • @lordpembridge303
      @lordpembridge303 5 лет назад +18

      I've noticed Dutch people always seem to speak good English, same with Scandinavian and German people. Maybe because English is closely related to all their respective languages.

    • @basketvic99
      @basketvic99 4 года назад +6

      @@lordpembridge303 I'm Dutch and we get English in school quite early on (I started at 9 or 10 I believe). Also, all English TV and Films aren't voiced in Dutch (like they do in Germany), we just get English with Dutch subs which I think also really helps.

    • @nichonr95
      @nichonr95 4 года назад +3

      @@lordpembridge303 english isnt closely related to any of them. They are all germanic languages, at least german and the scandinavian languages.
      English is more a mix of latin and the old british languages.

    • @giespouwen8091
      @giespouwen8091 3 года назад

      From all the languages, dutch is the closest related to english there are many words we share just the pronunciation is very different

    • @giespouwen8091
      @giespouwen8091 3 года назад +4

      @@nichonr95 btw english is a germanic language

  • @50kk4
    @50kk4 2 года назад +4

    52:15 yep, that's enough *types Paul Scholes in search field*
    Great player, Loved to watch him as I was growing up. Even loved reading his name when a match didn't go on television. Proper striker.

  • @odilkodirov586
    @odilkodirov586 3 года назад +1

    I've never thought of him to be so intellegent and gentleman. My big respect to a geniuos stricker and a man!

  • @ftsiempre
    @ftsiempre 8 лет назад +2

    Thank you for sharing it, It'd be great to have subtitles but anyway.

  • @Hellyeah_studio
    @Hellyeah_studio Год назад

    When I was a kid, me and my father love to watching him plays for United. I feels like he is scoring in every games. Great striker

  • @brianpoole4369
    @brianpoole4369 5 лет назад +4

    RUDD....united in his DNA....legend at old trafford, forever remembered!!

  • @wassk1501
    @wassk1501 2 года назад

    Was my favourite striker in football while he was at United, will always remember the run from half way to scoring past the keeper

  • @RifatRahmanRimon
    @RifatRahmanRimon 3 года назад +50

    5:33
    "You need to win a UCL to be there"
    RVN is savage

    • @imeanitsallrightlike3684
      @imeanitsallrightlike3684 3 года назад

      they might win it this year yk. i hope they dont but still.

    • @RifatRahmanRimon
      @RifatRahmanRimon 3 года назад

      @@imeanitsallrightlike3684 I actually want them to win for Pep. Even though I'm a Madrid fan, I always admired Pep and his genius.
      Since, Madrid are out, I want City to win for Pep. He should've won the Quadruple this year though.

  • @stephenuytterhaegen9705
    @stephenuytterhaegen9705 6 лет назад +3

    A real men. What a player. What a great time

  • @kwaser2000
    @kwaser2000 3 года назад +3

    he was my best player in Real Madrid at time ... and he is one of my favorite players of all time .

  • @abdisalaamabdi8422
    @abdisalaamabdi8422 7 лет назад +26

    Defo one of the best strikers the premier league has ever seen

  • @EternalMelody
    @EternalMelody 2 года назад +10

    "His natural ability was far beyond anything I've played with" he said regarding O Fenômeno

    • @NazriB
      @NazriB 2 года назад

      Lies again? Module UDK

  • @k.ashar91
    @k.ashar91 6 лет назад +3

    Been a fan of this guy since 2001. Still my favorite player of all time!

  • @roberthayes9842
    @roberthayes9842 2 года назад +3

    What a player, superb master

  • @puma8242
    @puma8242 3 года назад +2

    Another chance for students to meet one of their favourite celebrities. Awesome!

  • @dennishendrikx3228
    @dennishendrikx3228 2 года назад +1

    Today Ruud is the PSV U21 coach, those kids get training from Ruud van Nistelrooy, how awesome is that.
    In The Netherlands a few U21 teams play in the second league, confusingly called Eerste Divisie.

  • @GafferSamz
    @GafferSamz 8 лет назад +2

    Sounds so honest

  • @kingrendal
    @kingrendal 8 лет назад +17

    Shame on the Oxford Union posting false copyright claims on other RUclips channels.
    #EthicsMatter #FreeSpeechMatters

  • @Assassino167
    @Assassino167 7 лет назад +38

    Nice to see Will from the inbetweeners is doing alright for himself, surprised he's a city fan though...

  • @nistelrooy1990
    @nistelrooy1990 8 лет назад +5

    My favorite player :) Ruud for ever ;)

  • @kwaser2000
    @kwaser2000 3 года назад +3

    He is a definition of decisiveness in football.

  • @worthalook4870
    @worthalook4870 7 лет назад +2

    Top class striker - scores amazing amount of goals for United

  • @demissiejabo166
    @demissiejabo166 3 года назад +5

    You the reason why I am the fan of ManUted. You are the best striker.

  • @karthiknistelrooy23
    @karthiknistelrooy23 4 года назад +3

    THE BEST PENALTY BOX PREDATOR OF MAN UNITED ERA. MY ALL TIME FAVORITE STRIKER..

  • @reneevanes6348
    @reneevanes6348 7 лет назад +6

    I think of all foreign nationalities , the Dutch where/are the best 'game/team reinforcement ' signings are equally number one's together with the French. Meaning, for example, if you are a average EPL team and have a limited budget and half way season you need a game/team improving reinforcement and you're looking abroad, I think your the safest with spending your money by signing a skilled dutchman. Mostly because of his working attitude multiple usage on different positions.
    Look at some signings past history. Van der Vaart, Bergkamp, Kuytt, Stam, van Persie, Robben, Hasselbaink, Van Bronckhorst, etc.etc.

  • @IrishBeerCan
    @IrishBeerCan 2 года назад +3

    Interesting to hear his respective on Ronaldo (the original). Always felt Ronaldo was the most devastating striker I've ever seen, even ahead of Messi/CR7.

  • @hafizuddinpeace7785
    @hafizuddinpeace7785 4 года назад

    That’s i love him play. He is professional and nice

  • @silentalpha7721
    @silentalpha7721 3 года назад +1

    Absolute legend!! remember how beckham jump on him after ruud scored?

  • @FranciscoTorres-bh2om
    @FranciscoTorres-bh2om 8 лет назад +2

    Ruud you are my hero im from Chile

  • @rogda123
    @rogda123 8 лет назад +1

    absolute legend

  • @jimmykarma5771
    @jimmykarma5771 2 года назад

    Brilliant interview 😊

  • @ronaldo3436
    @ronaldo3436 8 лет назад +2

    Amazing stuff. Thank you for your time in Madrid Ruud! haha Maybe you'll be an assistant manager in the future? :)

  • @zizoucris10
    @zizoucris10 2 года назад

    What a time for strikers! R9, Rivaldo, Raul, Henry, Trezeguet, Vieri, Crespo! So many

  • @rogermoore3991
    @rogermoore3991 3 года назад +2

    Ruud was my childhood hero ❤️

  • @anthonyegizi5857
    @anthonyegizi5857 7 лет назад +7

    natural striker. one of the best strikers ever.

  • @jagjeet9046
    @jagjeet9046 3 года назад +3

    One word : Legend

  • @yan.weather
    @yan.weather Год назад

    Actually pleasantly surprised by the eloquent nature of Ruud given his on field warrior demeanour

  • @Marco-jo7vc
    @Marco-jo7vc 3 года назад +5

    Every time I see past generation players showing superb appreciation to Brazilian Ronaldo , this made me know more and more how that guy was fuckin good

    • @Eclipse2582
      @Eclipse2582 2 года назад

      He was nicknamed "The Phenomenon" for a reason! 😉

  • @Richardtv1968
    @Richardtv1968 5 лет назад +7

    Ruud did not say Paul Scholes was the greatest player he played along with!! He said Paul was the one he valued the most in all factors. He said the Brazilian Ronaldo was the best

    • @broxy2007
      @broxy2007 3 года назад +2

      Obviously Ronaldo fenomeno was the best he played with

  • @coenpietersen272
    @coenpietersen272 3 года назад +4

    37:02 Paul Scholes was there as well. Looking straight at you!

  • @elfuego2837
    @elfuego2837 3 года назад +1

    VAN THE MAN IS BACK🔥🔥🔥

  • @jamess6787
    @jamess6787 8 лет назад +2

    That penalty wasn't to end our long unbeaten run, that ended (after 49 games) at Old Trafford (thanks to some dubious refereeing) in 2004. But the penalty miss was during our season that we were unbeaten, so an important moment in our run

  • @techmasteradmin8235
    @techmasteradmin8235 7 лет назад

    True goal scoring machine #legend

  • @BALBIRSINGH-qf5ft
    @BALBIRSINGH-qf5ft 5 лет назад

    Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks.

  • @Angela-Aberdeen
    @Angela-Aberdeen Год назад +1

    Yes in Italy we pay attention to the defense part of the tattic game to play but that AC Milan wasn't defensiveness at all, Kakà, Pirlo, Rui Costa and Crespo, so underrated player but always in goal!

  • @hellohello-in8ik
    @hellohello-in8ik 5 лет назад +2

    when Ruud played for us we always knew he would score goals, for me the best striker you can have in your club , the best finisher , our Manchester United legend the best 🙌😈😈😈😈

  • @zacharydavidvbangura9873
    @zacharydavidvbangura9873 2 года назад +1

    This guy was under appreciated

  • @richardmullins1883
    @richardmullins1883 3 года назад +1

    He will be one of the best coaches on record

  • @mankydave67
    @mankydave67 11 месяцев назад

    What a man, what a player!! Has anyone noticed those little linguistic nuances he uses??? A very clever guy. 150 goals in 5 seasons is ridiculous!!!

  • @slickwillywize
    @slickwillywize 3 года назад +1

    to have this man back at Utd in his prime...What a Striker...Through on goal one on one...you pick Ronaldo, Batigol, Greaves, Romario, Der Bomber, Shearer, Eusebio, Lineker and Ruud

  • @arjunkchandrasekar7966
    @arjunkchandrasekar7966 5 лет назад +8

    12:02 the interviewer completely misrepresents what Rio said

  • @kchmyy
    @kchmyy 3 года назад +1

    Im liverpool fan. This man is so smart.

  • @Jay7MU
    @Jay7MU 8 лет назад +40

    RUUUUUUUUUUUD!

    • @gavink2697
      @gavink2697 7 лет назад +7

      And now Ronaldo is a cunt to Bale. Seems everyone in football is a douche.

  • @neliorosa6357
    @neliorosa6357 2 года назад +2

    Jogava muito. Mas eu sou fã do Van Baster .🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷

  • @Id0N0tH4te
    @Id0N0tH4te 4 года назад +2

    He would do as incredible politician. Expertly dodgeing questions that are critical/difficult.

  • @johnjlindsley3686
    @johnjlindsley3686 7 лет назад +15

    Rio did not quite state that the current financial situation in football is all fair game and fair play, as the interviewer claims.

    • @toyloss
      @toyloss 7 лет назад +7

      John J Lindsley the interviewer was just being stupid

    • @tobyalozie5034
      @tobyalozie5034 7 лет назад +2

      that is exactly what I was thinking

  • @Yo12327
    @Yo12327 6 лет назад +1

    My fav striker of all

  • @paumzito
    @paumzito 8 лет назад +1

    What a man!

    • @KNDaedX
      @KNDaedX 4 года назад

      Van The Man

  • @daryontube
    @daryontube 5 лет назад +1

    I don’t understand where this is coming from, about Real Madrid fans booing him. I was there, watching him play and we loved him so much for being such an excelled striker, as far as I can tell, probably one of the best 9’s in our history. I don’t remember anyone booing him at all, maybe it is due to that fact that the Bernabéu audience always demands a 120% effort from our players and at some point they will request that with whistles (it shocks most players at first), but Ruud was definitely one of our favorites, I wish we could have him now!

  • @turvus2
    @turvus2 2 года назад +1

    32:36 love Ruud"s mentality.

  • @akshaykocharekar1295
    @akshaykocharekar1295 8 лет назад +14

    rudd❤ Class player Class person..

  • @DranganT
    @DranganT 3 года назад +2

    Not man united, not Real Madrid, but Oxford. True finisher.

  • @torogenghis1609
    @torogenghis1609 3 года назад +4

    "But you need the champions league to be in there.."
    That's hit the target

  • @chrisbailey4719
    @chrisbailey4719 8 лет назад +1

    legend

  • @Zacktse
    @Zacktse 6 лет назад

    Love you Ruud

  • @n__167
    @n__167 3 года назад +4

    Crazy too think we went from Rudd to Anthony Martial

  • @WilliamMathieson
    @WilliamMathieson 8 лет назад +3

    Was a great player back in the day!

  • @visanion1361
    @visanion1361 Год назад

    Ruuds time in real madrid is very underrated!!!!he qon 2 leagues against a top barcelona side with henry ronaldinho messi etoo!!!!!valencia was strong atletico madrid had aguero and many others......betis was strong and so on.......he was a lil bit.unlucky in ucl.....thats life....