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It’s a certain level of trust. As he said to Ro, she’s selective about who she calls a friend, and knows she wouldn’t just abuse her position to Picard.
You have to love how Guinan uses her influence with picard only when she needs to. There are some people who gain that kind of influence with a person and whether intentional or not, exploit it. Guinan only ever uses her ability to get Picards ear, only when it is important. She also knows how to pull only as hard as needed, whether it's a gentle tug on the sleeve or a grab on the ear and bluntly going 'listen here.'
She was always subtle about it. That's what I liked about older trek, instead of screaming and gesturing and lens flares she'd just quietly convey how serious something was by her tone, body language, eyes, voice, choice of words. Like the time she basically berated Geordie for being a bully. She just said "if I thought nobody wanted to be around me, I'd probably be late and nervous too" No raised voice, just an "I think you're better than this..." guilt him rather than batter him into it. Then the time she got Picard to go to lead an away team to feed a predestination paradox, she's casually testing drinks and then subtly she says "starfleet captains don't usually lead away teams...this time you have to...(look) you just do". "you remember the first time we met?" "of course"..."don't be so sure" If this was Discovery or even the new Pike series (which at least kinda feels like real trek) she'd be screaming and saying how the sky will fall and the universe will collapse , melodramatic music playing...maybe even a musical breaking out..
@@ryancarroll3957 Exactly stated. I've noticed this trend in movies and in Hollywood in general when it comes to how they are writing and producing things. Stuff that use to be said calmly but conveying the importance is now being over exagerated and flashy. I think its partly the mood of the newer writers and producers, they think this is what has to be done. That and I've noticed a lot of public not understanding anymore when something is implied/gestured to, ect. Its like if they don't see it on camera explicitly or with a big huge show of emotion they don't seem to "get it" or understand. I've read entire comments and more for things where many of the younger generations don't seem able to read the scene or understand the gravity of something or how subtle clues pointing out plots, it seems to go right over there heads. And I don't think its an age thing, it seems to be a generation (and of course there are those that do not fit the mold that look at there peers like "seriously you didn't get that" lol). But I miss the subtle ways series and movies use to do things, like in this clip with Guinan and Picard and many other times throughout the series. I truly miss this type of content compared to much of what is being put out, especially in Star Trek, its why I haven't watched any of the newer series, I would tune in for part of it and just be like um no thank you.
@@LouiseEirwen Phones and the net did this. Things like tik tock and twitter, peoples brains are now used to short hits of dopamine, it's a reason why school kids find it so hard to read a long book now. Their brains are programmed for fast sharp obvious dopamine hits. They don't have paitence. The good side of this is that as this becomes more of a problem in society, those of us who DO have the capability of delayed gratification, can read longer texts and grasp subtlety will compete in the world far easier than these zombies.
It was more explicit in Best of Both Worlds when she was talking to Riker about Picard being assimilated. Guinan: "Oh... Then let me just say that... our relationship is beyond friendship, beyond family. And I *will* let him go. And you must do the same. There can only be one Captain."
0:15 Guinan: "Hi! It's me, Guinan! I heard you were grounded!!" Ro: "How could they give you security clearance to visit a military prisoner like me?" Guinan: "Told ya! I'm not an ordinary bartender, but a thousand-year old El Aurian wise woman! I got my connections throughout this ship!!"
Ro: "How could they give you security clearance to visit a military prisoner like me?" Guinan: "Have you ever heard the expression, 'Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger'?" Ro: "No." Guinan: "The guard outside has."
"You know, a very long time ago, about 500 years or so, I got into some serious trouble, too. And I mean *serious.* And I'd probably still be there if I hadn't trusted one man".
A man named Sam Clemens. Hoo! Ha! He knew how to spin a tale! Ha, hoo! He's obviously dead. Look, I can get you a meeting with Picard, you can say you're sorry or whatever....
This is the episode where DS9 was born! The role of the cardassians with bajorans was originally gonna be the romulans as the conquerors. Imagine how much more expanded romulan stuff would be if they made DS9 with the Romulans as the bad guys, and then them joining the Dominion.
Especially ironic sense if Michelle Forbes had not turned the role down would have continued playing Ro on DS9 instead we got Kira which probably end up working out better
@@sokagofferenginar8669 what's even wilder is if the original Janeway had stayed. Cannot believe she was the first choice and they committed her to production! The few scenes she was in were so awful 😂
Romulans, secretive race, highly untrusting of other faces.. Allying with the Dominion, with a highly secretive founders, highly untrusting of solids. I think that is just a little too much of the same poison by different names..
While it's a strong line, "best line in all of Star Trek" is a bit much. My personal best line ever in Trek would probably be Garak from In the Pale Moonlight: "If your conscience is bothering you, you should soothe it with the knowledge that you may have just saved the entire Alpha Quadrant. And all it cost was the life of one Romulan senator, one criminal, and the self-respect of one Starfleet officer. I don't know about you, but I'd call that a bargain. "
Part of me wants them to eventually one day explain everything about Guinan and Q and all of it. Part of me hopes they never do. The mystery is actually kinda fun.
It's really too bad that her character was a racist caricature. Many (including myself until recently) just don't realize it because Guinan did such a great job, and the writers gave her a lot to work with.
@@AndyCutright Search the Hollywood trope of the "Magical Negro". That should answer your questions. In short, it's an African American with some kind of magical-like powers that escape reason. In one of Steve Shives's videos, titled "Is Commander Riker More Useless Than Counselor Troi? . . . and Other Questions" at 7:30, he responds to a commenter who brought this whole concept to my attention, and Steve agreed with them. In short, Guinan has strange mystical abilities, and her character's done in a way that makes her extremely mysterious, and we never truly get a solid answer most of the time. That's not to say that Guinan as a character wasn't enjoyable. I love Guinan, and I love Whoopi Goldberg's acting in the role. All I'm saying is that they used a very blatant trope that - if it were to be used today, would likely gain significantly _more_ controversy than it did in its time. TV Tropes gives a _really_ good breakdown on it: " _In order to show the world that minority characters are not bad people, one will step forward to help a "normal" person, with their pure heart and folksy wisdom. They are usually black and/or poor, but may come from another oppressed minority. They step (often clad in a clean, white suit) into the life of the much more privileged (and, in particular, almost always white) central character and, in some way, enrich that central character's life. If the Magical Negro (also known as Magic Negro or Mystical Negro) is from a society of Noble Savages, expect an Anvilicious Aesop about the failings of the protagonist's society - which usually leads to the protagonist "Going Native"_ . _With such deep spiritual wisdom (and sometimes - though not always - actual supernatural powers), you might wonder why the Magical Negro doesn't step up and save the day himself. This will never happen. So enlightened and selfless is he that he has no desire to gain glory for himself; he only wants to help those who need guidance... which just happens to mean those who are traditionally viewed by Hollywood as better suited for protagonist roles, not, say, his own oppressed people. In fact, the Magical Negro really seems to have no goal in life other than helping white people achieve their fullest potential; he may even be ditched or killed outright once he's served that purpose. If he does express any selfish desires, it will only be in the context of helping the white protagonists realize their own racism and thereby become better people_ . _Bonus points if this character is a priest of Vodoun. If female, they will nearly always also be a Sassy Black Woman_ . _See also Whoopi Epiphany Speech, Token Black Friend, and Mammy. For a similar trope about women, see Manic Pixie Dream Girl (as well as Disposable Woman and The Bechdel Test); the Magical Girlfriend may play a similar role for her love interest, but is not necessarily an example of this. For the gay version see Magical Queer (who may also be black). The disabled version of this is Inspirationally Disadvantaged. When a non-minority character is portrayed this way, the character is usually a Sidekick Ex Machina. Similar in vein to the Magical Native American, though that trope tends to be more explicitly magical. Also similar to Magical Asian, when an Asian character, often with supernatural abilities, fulfills a mentor role to a white character. Another related trope is White Man's Burden, where the plot is about an ordinary white person who befriends an underprivileged minority character. Related to Magical Romani, which is about Romani characters having magical abilities (or otherwise associated with the supernatural). Also compare Magical Jew_ . _The term "Magical Negro" was popularized by Spike Lee during a lecture denouncing this trope_ ." It also references Guinan specifically under its examples: " _Guinan in Star Trek: The Next Generation, played by Whoopi Goldberg, is an El-Aurian, a member of a race with an almost supernatural sense of time and space. She's Picard's Token Black Friend, but she's happy to give a Whoopi Epiphany Speech to anyone who asks-or anyone else she thinks needs one. She can tell when history has been altered, has centuries of experience and accumulated skills, is a better shot than the Enterprise's chief of security, and is the only person on the ship who scares Q. Despite the fact that she could probably replace anyone on the crew, she chooses to work as a bartender in Ten Forward_ ."
And to this day they have never revealed what trouble Guinan was in and what it is about her and Picard that makes them so close and I know it's not the incident in San Francisco where Data's head was found.
One of my favorite TNG episodes. Really shows for the first time that not everything is the sweetness & light in the Alpha Quadrant, things the Federation can't just wave its hand and resolve, not in the real-world way.
Guinan was a very understated character. She’d only interject if she could help and, on rare occasions such as this, she’d make a brief appeal on their behalf. Picard knows this and even as he’s asking her, he knows she’d not be there at all unless it was vitally important
She was a great actress back in the Ghost and TNG days. One of the most charismatic actors ever, imo. I really wish she would have stuck to acting instead of The View.
Admiral:Picard I want you to go to this planet and remove these people Picard:I will not do that it's their home Guinien:Picard she is my friend Picard:understood I will obey your orders...lol
I know people habe ripped on Whoopi’s Goldberg over the years because of her political beliefs but she’s an excellent actress and played Guinan perfectly.
I always smile at this short. You can see the enormity of the implications of a simple statement from ginannes mouth in the eyes of Patrick Stewart. I've never seen a better Mike drop in my life. She's my friend then a Mark Hunt walk off..😂😂😂😂😂
Does anyone else notice that Guinan is the ACTUAL Captain of the Ship? She tells Picard what to do, he does it. And, subtlety; Guinan works in Ten Forward, the most forward part of the ship… as if the writers are saying the true leadership is at the front of the ship.
LOL... when I am confined to quarters... It might be nice to get visited by a alien that seemingly has intuitions regarding time line probability’s and projected outcomes... What a game changer that was for the Borg...
Guinan is so respected by Picard that when she says someone is her friend he knows it isn't a joke. And just saying Ro is her friend is all it took. No bickering, no "but". "She's my friend" is all it took.
I like to think Michelle Forbes earned herself a recurring role with this performance. Like she had one shot to prove how good she is and she acted her ass off. She is absolutely brilliant.
Ensign Ro and thank you because you have a reason to communicate and I explain more about the situation and time to communicate with the truth and yes I do care about you because I have a conscience and yes it's my responsibility to observe the fact of course 😁.
This scene alone exemplified the deep trust and friendship Picard and Guinan shared. Sure, Ro was confined to quarters, but Guinan’s support alone was enough to mollify Picard’s brief annoyance. Her word alone meant he’d listen to what Ro had to say.
I mean...really... She's like...a thousand years old...wtf are you really gonna say when she tells you to do something? She loves everybody on that crew, and you can always sense it. But you can also sense that she is too old for this shit, too. Damn kids not even living a whole century...
Guinan is very lucky that she and Jean Luc have a special friendship; she has no business meddling in ship’s business. And how the hell did no one on the bridge stop them?
Guinan is something of a religious figure on the Enterprise. Stand in her way, and lose your 10 forward rights. Soon enough, she'd have an escort straight to the captain.
She's My Friend ..... Guinan does not make friends easily Picard is also Guinan's friend Very few other people are ... PICARD! Pay Attention This is vitally important!!!!
@@matthewberry7206 Wasn't it connected to Generations? Guinan got ripped out of the Nexus or something then Picard and Kirk did their thing. Memory is vague, but I do remember Guinan being on a ship with other stranded(?) people.
@@Dowlphin Yes, although there are two things with that. 1.In season 5 episode Ensign Ro, she mentions to Ro Laren that when she was in deep trouble, she needed to trust one man, and he helped her. It was implied that Ro should too. Then Guinen took her to Picard. Thus it's indicated that Picard helped her in a serious situation... which he did in Time's Arrow. 2. In Generations, yes she met Checkov, but she wasn't in trouble as she saw it... the Enterprise "ripped her away" from the Nexus. Even if this was an intended implication, it doesn't reconcile what was indicated in the episode Ensign Ro. And although it give more insight to her backstory, it was done post any TNG episodes, this commonly called a "replot" to "patch" previous inconsistencies. Check out the Ensign Ro episode and see if that helps for you. At any rate, I suppose it's ultimately up to the viewer as to which way they want to view things. :-)
So Guinan is cool with her because in the episode when they were changed into children they became pals....and Guinan always "sorta" remembers her timeline alterations....right?....
Me over here just wishing bean man would make albums with each episodes pieces so I could find them in order. Also why doesn’t bean man care about getting to a million subs? Find out next year when he post more content.
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Star Trek · The Next Generation · s05e03 · Ensign Ro
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You're Taking Her Captain! ...I'll Fill You In Later
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I Wish To Be Candid With You Ensign
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When Humans Were Not Yet Standing Erect
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Don't hate on Deanna. She is great counselor but Guinan has 1000 years of life experience watching people and understanding humanoid behavior.
When Guinan tells Picard someone is her friend, he knows it's something worth paying attention to.
That was the very next line of dialogue. Shame it was cut!
Yup. Especially since as she has met him as a younger woman some 500 years earlier (although he hasn't experience this timeline yet).
The way Picard falls silent after she says that. She has his ear like nobody else on that ship.
@@nnthayer I don't know, I think Beverly does.
@@Locutus Beverly has something else of Picard's
Love how Guinan says “she’s my friend” and Picard just looks at her like. “Ok then she can stay.”
Guinan basically just vetted Ro to Picard, letting him know she can be trusted, powerful...
Guinan is just the right person to talk to when things get rough.
+1
It’s a certain level of trust. As he said to Ro, she’s selective about who she calls a friend, and knows she wouldn’t just abuse her position to Picard.
Picard and Guinan are very close and Picard trusts her unconditionally
You have to love how Guinan uses her influence with picard only when she needs to. There are some people who gain that kind of influence with a person and whether intentional or not, exploit it. Guinan only ever uses her ability to get Picards ear, only when it is important.
She also knows how to pull only as hard as needed, whether it's a gentle tug on the sleeve or a grab on the ear and bluntly going 'listen here.'
It's how she maintains her influence with him as well. He's wise enough to know she's wise enough to handle that privilege responsibly.
She's not that wise in real life. But then, that's what acting is about.
She was always subtle about it. That's what I liked about older trek, instead of screaming and gesturing and lens flares she'd just quietly convey how serious something was by her tone, body language, eyes, voice, choice of words.
Like the time she basically berated Geordie for being a bully. She just said "if I thought nobody wanted to be around me, I'd probably be late and nervous too"
No raised voice, just an "I think you're better than this..." guilt him rather than batter him into it.
Then the time she got Picard to go to lead an away team to feed a predestination paradox, she's casually testing drinks and then subtly she says "starfleet captains don't usually lead away teams...this time you have to...(look) you just do".
"you remember the first time we met?" "of course"..."don't be so sure"
If this was Discovery or even the new Pike series (which at least kinda feels like real trek) she'd be screaming and saying how the sky will fall and the universe will collapse , melodramatic music playing...maybe even a musical breaking out..
@@ryancarroll3957 Exactly stated. I've noticed this trend in movies and in Hollywood in general when it comes to how they are writing and producing things. Stuff that use to be said calmly but conveying the importance is now being over exagerated and flashy. I think its partly the mood of the newer writers and producers, they think this is what has to be done. That and I've noticed a lot of public not understanding anymore when something is implied/gestured to, ect. Its like if they don't see it on camera explicitly or with a big huge show of emotion they don't seem to "get it" or understand. I've read entire comments and more for things where many of the younger generations don't seem able to read the scene or understand the gravity of something or how subtle clues pointing out plots, it seems to go right over there heads. And I don't think its an age thing, it seems to be a generation (and of course there are those that do not fit the mold that look at there peers like "seriously you didn't get that" lol).
But I miss the subtle ways series and movies use to do things, like in this clip with Guinan and Picard and many other times throughout the series. I truly miss this type of content compared to much of what is being put out, especially in Star Trek, its why I haven't watched any of the newer series, I would tune in for part of it and just be like um no thank you.
@@LouiseEirwen Phones and the net did this. Things like tik tock and twitter, peoples brains are now used to short hits of dopamine, it's a reason why school kids find it so hard to read a long book now. Their brains are programmed for fast sharp obvious dopamine hits.
They don't have paitence.
The good side of this is that as this becomes more of a problem in society, those of us who DO have the capability of delayed gratification, can read longer texts and grasp subtlety will compete in the world far easier than these zombies.
"She's my friend." Guinan BRINGS. THE. THUNDER!
Did she decide on this ride or die friendship based on a 35 second conversation in a bar?
Plot armor @@hansolo631!
@@hansolo631she listened hard enough for 35 seconds
…. And the heavens opened, and her voice was like that of God’s sweet whispers.
Oh look it's Guinan being the best Counselor on the series.
Troi met her match a long time ago.
She wasn't being a counselor. She was being a *friend.* There's a difference between your shrink and your confidant.
@@aggressiveattitudeera887 she's a good listener, 👍
@@TheZetaKai Troi (feeling Ro): "I sense nothing!!"
Guinan: "She's my friend!!" (smile and wink wink)
@@aggressiveattitudeera887 True, but she also has centuries of life experience.
She's... my friend.
We jump on the bed together and everything!
@Koowluh yeah...
Also, Ro has an interest in horticulture.
Pillow fight...?
This scene hints at the depth of Picard and Guinans friendship
It was more explicit in Best of Both Worlds when she was talking to Riker about Picard being assimilated.
Guinan: "Oh... Then let me just say that... our relationship is beyond friendship, beyond family. And I *will* let him go. And you must do the same. There can only be one Captain."
The listener knows what the captain needs to hear, and what this ensign needs to say.
Listening is a form of learning.
And it is difficult to send and receive at the same time. At least intellectually.
Guinan is probably the only person on the Enterprise that can put Picard in his place.
Other than maybe Beverly sometimes
Everyone does that once. Guinan is the only one to do it often
Data's done it. Every other season or so. Then literally died putting Picard back on the Enterprise.
@@glynncordry5965 Literally putting Picard back in his place.
she's his command master chief!
Another moment where Whoopi Goldberg and Michelle Forbes acted brilliantly, playing two memorable guest characters in the TNG-verse.
Guinan was not a guest character, she was part of the main cast and you can't convince me otherwise.
Ro was easily one of my favorite characters. I feel like she got some of Tasha Yars’ character beats.
if only whoopi as a person could live up to a fraction of the person her character is.
I always smile at how Picard and Guinan are like Ro's dad and mom.
When Guinan says someone is her friend, you damn well listen to her advice going forward.
Yeah, TEN forward....
The power of a friend standing beside you.
I always loved when Guinan was in an episode.
0:15 Guinan: "Hi! It's me, Guinan! I heard you were grounded!!"
Ro: "How could they give you security clearance to visit a military prisoner like me?"
Guinan: "Told ya! I'm not an ordinary bartender, but a thousand-year old El Aurian wise woman! I got my connections throughout this ship!!"
Ro was confined to quarters. Presumably, you can visit a person confined to quarters, as long as they don't leave.
Ro: "How could they give you security clearance to visit a military prisoner like me?"
Guinan: "Have you ever heard the expression, 'Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger'?"
Ro: "No."
Guinan: "The guard outside has."
"You know, a very long time ago, about 500 years or so, I got into some serious trouble, too. And I mean *serious.* And I'd probably still be there if I hadn't trusted one man".
A man named Sam Clemens. Hoo! Ha! He knew how to spin a tale! Ha, hoo! He's obviously dead. Look, I can get you a meeting with Picard, you can say you're sorry or whatever....
Camera immediately cuts to Picard. That should've told you there's something between them to be revealed in a future episode...
Hello! It's me, Guinan! Words that can either be a GOOD or a BAD thing.
This is the episode where DS9 was born! The role of the cardassians with bajorans was originally gonna be the romulans as the conquerors. Imagine how much more expanded romulan stuff would be if they made DS9 with the Romulans as the bad guys, and then them joining the Dominion.
Especially ironic sense if Michelle Forbes had not turned the role down would have continued playing Ro on DS9 instead we got Kira which probably end up working out better
@@sokagofferenginar8669 yeah Ro was good. Idk if she was good like Nana Visitor good though.
@@sokagofferenginar8669 what's even wilder is if the original Janeway had stayed. Cannot believe she was the first choice and they committed her to production! The few scenes she was in were so awful 😂
Also Time's Arrow
Romulans, secretive race, highly untrusting of other faces.. Allying with the Dominion, with a highly secretive founders, highly untrusting of solids.
I think that is just a little too much of the same poison by different names..
Probably the best line in all of Star Trek.
"She's my friend."
While it's a strong line, "best line in all of Star Trek" is a bit much.
My personal best line ever in Trek would probably be Garak from In the Pale Moonlight: "If your conscience is bothering you, you should soothe it with the knowledge that you may have just saved the entire Alpha Quadrant. And all it cost was the life of one Romulan senator, one criminal, and the self-respect of one Starfleet officer. I don't know about you, but I'd call that a bargain. "
"She's, my friend."
MIC DROP
The algorithm puts so much of your channel in my feed I didn't know I wasn't subbed lol
This was always my personal favorite episode. Ro was such a cool and relateable character
OMG!
When she says that someone is her friend,that's serious stuff!
I loved their relationship.
Part of me wants them to eventually one day explain everything about Guinan and Q and all of it. Part of me hopes they never do. The mystery is actually kinda fun.
When someone who’s been around for 700 years wants to give you advice, it may be a good idea to listen.
I have plenty of advice, but I will not explain why Q hates me...
I always loved the way she makes you realise how wrong you are by "agreeing" with you then turning it up a notch
one of the best scenes in the whole show. These are the only types of friendships i value.
I do love their relationship. Guinan knew that Ro desperately needed a friend.
Guinan is a very under rated character and probably one of the best.
It's really too bad that her character was a racist caricature. Many (including myself until recently) just don't realize it because Guinan did such a great job, and the writers gave her a lot to work with.
@@TheEDFLegacy A caricature of which race?
@@TheEDFLegacy She's a member of got-damned alien species. Why in the world would you make this ridiculous claim?
@@AndyCutright Search the Hollywood trope of the "Magical Negro". That should answer your questions. In short, it's an African American with some kind of magical-like powers that escape reason. In one of Steve Shives's videos, titled "Is Commander Riker More Useless Than Counselor Troi? . . . and Other Questions" at 7:30, he responds to a commenter who brought this whole concept to my attention, and Steve agreed with them. In short, Guinan has strange mystical abilities, and her character's done in a way that makes her extremely mysterious, and we never truly get a solid answer most of the time.
That's not to say that Guinan as a character wasn't enjoyable. I love Guinan, and I love Whoopi Goldberg's acting in the role. All I'm saying is that they used a very blatant trope that - if it were to be used today, would likely gain significantly _more_ controversy than it did in its time.
TV Tropes gives a _really_ good breakdown on it:
" _In order to show the world that minority characters are not bad people, one will step forward to help a "normal" person, with their pure heart and folksy wisdom. They are usually black and/or poor, but may come from another oppressed minority. They step (often clad in a clean, white suit) into the life of the much more privileged (and, in particular, almost always white) central character and, in some way, enrich that central character's life. If the Magical Negro (also known as Magic Negro or Mystical Negro) is from a society of Noble Savages, expect an Anvilicious Aesop about the failings of the protagonist's society - which usually leads to the protagonist "Going Native"_ .
_With such deep spiritual wisdom (and sometimes - though not always - actual supernatural powers), you might wonder why the Magical Negro doesn't step up and save the day himself. This will never happen. So enlightened and selfless is he that he has no desire to gain glory for himself; he only wants to help those who need guidance... which just happens to mean those who are traditionally viewed by Hollywood as better suited for protagonist roles, not, say, his own oppressed people. In fact, the Magical Negro really seems to have no goal in life other than helping white people achieve their fullest potential; he may even be ditched or killed outright once he's served that purpose. If he does express any selfish desires, it will only be in the context of helping the white protagonists realize their own racism and thereby become better people_ .
_Bonus points if this character is a priest of Vodoun. If female, they will nearly always also be a Sassy Black Woman_ .
_See also Whoopi Epiphany Speech, Token Black Friend, and Mammy. For a similar trope about women, see Manic Pixie Dream Girl (as well as Disposable Woman and The Bechdel Test); the Magical Girlfriend may play a similar role for her love interest, but is not necessarily an example of this. For the gay version see Magical Queer (who may also be black). The disabled version of this is Inspirationally Disadvantaged. When a non-minority character is portrayed this way, the character is usually a Sidekick Ex Machina. Similar in vein to the Magical Native American, though that trope tends to be more explicitly magical. Also similar to Magical Asian, when an Asian character, often with supernatural abilities, fulfills a mentor role to a white character. Another related trope is White Man's Burden, where the plot is about an ordinary white person who befriends an underprivileged minority character. Related to Magical Romani, which is about Romani characters having magical abilities (or otherwise associated with the supernatural). Also compare Magical Jew_ .
_The term "Magical Negro" was popularized by Spike Lee during a lecture denouncing this trope_ ."
It also references Guinan specifically under its examples:
" _Guinan in Star Trek: The Next Generation, played by Whoopi Goldberg, is an El-Aurian, a member of a race with an almost supernatural sense of time and space. She's Picard's Token Black Friend, but she's happy to give a Whoopi Epiphany Speech to anyone who asks-or anyone else she thinks needs one. She can tell when history has been altered, has centuries of experience and accumulated skills, is a better shot than the Enterprise's chief of security, and is the only person on the ship who scares Q. Despite the fact that she could probably replace anyone on the crew, she chooses to work as a bartender in Ten Forward_ ."
@@UndeadGhostGirl ^ Answered in my above post; wish I could @ two people at once.
god i really do love guinan.
She's my friend. *mic drop*
Guinan was always a treat when she was in a TNG episode.
And to this day they have never revealed what trouble Guinan was in and what it is about her and Picard that makes them so close and I know it's not the incident in San Francisco where Data's head was found.
"Captain, Ensign Ro simply wants some beans. As a friend, I ask you to let her have some." 😆
I gotta ask: what's with the beans?
@legionaireb - It's a Running Gag with the author, who started it. I'm just going along with everyone else. You might want to ask him directly... 😏
One of my favorite TNG episodes. Really shows for the first time that not everything is the sweetness & light in the Alpha Quadrant, things the Federation can't just wave its hand and resolve, not in the real-world way.
Guinan was a very understated character. She’d only interject if she could help and, on rare occasions such as this, she’d make a brief appeal on their behalf. Picard knows this and even as he’s asking her, he knows she’d not be there at all unless it was vitally important
Is it just me or is Ro's actress quite attractive?
She's a babe.
@@chuckselvage3157 I'd Ro that boat
If Troi is the ship’s counselor then Guinan is the ship’s Chaplain
Woopi was so f-ing good.
She was a great actress back in the Ghost and TNG days. One of the most charismatic actors ever, imo.
I really wish she would have stuck to acting instead of The View.
I loved the outfits they gave Guinan and I really liked her character ❤
the quote should be "she's my friend"
Guinan sure was good at giving advice
Admiral:Picard I want you to go to this planet and remove these people
Picard:I will not do that it's their home
Guinien:Picard she is my friend
Picard:understood I will obey your orders...lol
😅
I know people habe ripped on Whoopi’s Goldberg over the years because of her political beliefs but she’s an excellent actress and played Guinan perfectly.
Guinan pulling the card.
The Picard card. But how many time can you play that ?
They got rid of those ridges above the nose of the Bajorans by DS9. Looks better.
it was a little better then random tattoo on face to show they are an alien lazy writing
@@breadtoast1036
It was a weekly TV show. They had limited budget for aliens sometimes.
Everyone should have an advocate like Guinan.
Guinan: "She's my friend"
Translation: Shut up and listen, Captain.
Guinan... could of gotten her recommendations from picard for promotion just by saying friend lol
Friendship is magic.:)
The way hint at how deep the friendship is, is the secret sauce of this episode.
I always smile at this short. You can see the enormity of the implications of a simple statement from ginannes mouth in the eyes of Patrick Stewart. I've never seen a better Mike drop in my life. She's my friend then a Mark Hunt walk off..😂😂😂😂😂
Can somebody edit this video so she has bar tending stuff rested on her hat 🤣 cups shot glasses silverwear
Does anyone else notice that Guinan is the ACTUAL Captain of the Ship? She tells Picard what to do, he does it. And, subtlety; Guinan works in Ten Forward, the most forward part of the ship… as if the writers are saying the true leadership is at the front of the ship.
She who controls the alcohol, controls all.
@@taopilot2669 That Aldebaran Whisky is pretty strong, right enough.
LOL... when I am confined to quarters...
It might be nice to get visited by a alien that seemingly has intuitions regarding time line probability’s and projected outcomes...
What a game changer that was for the Borg...
Guinan is so respected by Picard that when she says someone is her friend he knows it isn't a joke. And just saying Ro is her friend is all it took. No bickering, no "but". "She's my friend" is all it took.
1:41 - I like people who say "Hmm".
I hope someone writes a Starfleet Ro series one day.
I like to think Michelle Forbes earned herself a recurring role with this performance. Like she had one shot to prove how good she is and she acted her ass off. She is absolutely brilliant.
Ensign Ro and thank you because you have a reason to communicate and I explain more about the situation and time to communicate with the truth and yes I do care about you because I have a conscience and yes it's my responsibility to observe the fact of course 😁.
This scene alone exemplified the deep trust and friendship Picard and Guinan shared. Sure, Ro was confined to quarters, but Guinan’s support alone was enough to mollify Picard’s brief annoyance. Her word alone meant he’d listen to what Ro had to say.
What would Guinan know! She's only 900!
I mean...really...
She's like...a thousand years old...wtf are you really gonna say when she tells you to do something?
She loves everybody on that crew, and you can always sense it. But you can also sense that she is too old for this shit, too. Damn kids not even living a whole century...
@@DantesonofSparda85 What are you talking about?
lets count how many times one can blink in one second 😂😂 0:26
Dingalingaling! What? "Yo, Pizza delivery" hahaha. Should have stuck a pitcher of beer on top.
Guinan is very lucky that she and Jean Luc have a special friendship; she has no business meddling in ship’s business. And how the hell did no one on the bridge stop them?
Guinan is something of a religious figure on the Enterprise. Stand in her way, and lose your 10 forward rights. Soon enough, she'd have an escort straight to the captain.
To stand against Guinan is to stand against the wind. She'll knock you down or go around you, but you won't even slow her down.
Even Q is intimidated by her.
You don't want to get on bad terms with the barkeeper. 😅 (She's the one with the laser rifle behind the counter and ready to shoot the ceiling.)
@@Dowlphin
And possibly poison in a bottle in the register drawer.
It’s me GUINAN
Picard will listen to Guinan above all others on the ship.
I liked Ro.
"she's my friend"
Next episode they were jumping on the bed together
She's My Friend .....
Guinan does not make friends easily
Picard is also Guinan's friend
Very few other people are ...
PICARD! Pay Attention This is vitally important!!!!
Ah yes, the nosey lady who keeps butting into other people's business... and actually helps when she does. :P
Recognizing potential in others and bringing it to fruition is a sign of good leadership skill.
@@Dowlphin I had one 'boss' who seemed to mistrust and even loathe competence and skill in any employee.
Always the silly hats.
"She's my friend"
BEANS
Guinan drops the mic and leaves the room.
I wonder how much Whoopi hated that hat?
Really missed whooped Goldberg's character as Guinan. Especially they had her and Q together in a room.😂😂😂
WHAT
hELLo, itSa me, Guinan!
Guinan should have been the counsellor. She's not regular Star Fleet crew, and she has centuries of life experience.
Guinan is the real councillor, it's like she's a social engineer
She obviously escaped and is now one the View Bishes.
How dare you leave without permission.
You’re grounded!!!!!!
I for one wish Whoopi really was somewhere in outer space.
Oakley hat 🎩
Well the bartenders always gave better advice than the analysts in all those old movies.
They NEED to make a prequel miniseries about a young Jean Luc Picard and Guinan!
I HAVE to know what the story is between them!
Picard met Guinan a few hundred years in the past. This is alluded to in the clip. I can’t remember the name of the episode.
@@deanbrander8460 Times Arrow, part 1 & 2
@@matthewberry7206 Wasn't it connected to Generations? Guinan got ripped out of the Nexus or something then Picard and Kirk did their thing. Memory is vague, but I do remember Guinan being on a ship with other stranded(?) people.
@@Dowlphin Yes, although there are two things with that. 1.In season 5 episode Ensign Ro, she mentions to Ro Laren that when she was in deep trouble, she needed to trust one man, and he helped her. It was implied that Ro should too. Then Guinen took her to Picard. Thus it's indicated that Picard helped her in a serious situation... which he did in Time's Arrow.
2. In Generations, yes she met Checkov, but she wasn't in trouble as she saw it... the Enterprise "ripped her away" from the Nexus. Even if this was an intended implication, it doesn't reconcile what was indicated in the episode Ensign Ro. And although it give more insight to her backstory, it was done post any TNG episodes, this commonly called a "replot" to "patch" previous inconsistencies.
Check out the Ensign Ro episode and see if that helps for you.
At any rate, I suppose it's ultimately up to the viewer as to which way they want to view things. :-)
@@matthewberry7206 This is the Ensign Ro episode, by the way. 😁
Guinan told Ensign Ro that she had been in trouble a long time ago. Did she mean about four hundred years ago, in a cave under San Francisco?
Whoopi Goldberg is a diamond, just like Maggie Smith.
talk about foreshadowing...
2:33 Guinan's glance over at Ro says "you now owe me twenty bucks :)"
But uhhh who’s the ship councilor?
I wonder if Guinan can use “She’s my friend” to gain root access to the Enterprise’s main computer and override the Captain’s orders…
This is one of those moments when Whoopie was a likeable person. Now she's a bitter person.
Wouldn’t it be easier to confine me to a ship without children 🙄
So Guinan is cool with her because in the episode when they were changed into children they became pals....and Guinan always "sorta" remembers her timeline alterations....right?....
Me over here just wishing bean man would make albums with each episodes pieces so I could find them in order. Also why doesn’t bean man care about getting to a million subs? Find out next year when he post more content.
I do care mate, love this community, just super busy and stressed starting this new job, gonna post more as I settle into it and have more free time 🖖
@@tjwparso I’ll be honest with you I’m just joshing I get that you have a life other than RUclips and love the content you post
@@jessa1895 I know you're joking pal, love your comments, keeps me motivated ;) kinda sucks when I stress out all day working check my comments to have fun and chill and notice I've lost as many subs as I've gained, don't want the channel to slip, hopefully 2022 will be the year of the bean 🖖
Whoopi is playing a loving caring understanding character in real life not much !!!