After the bombing of the children's cancer hospital, Putin has no hope in hell of getting a ceasefire. I was so upset at seeing children with cancer sitting beside the rubble.😢😢😢😢😢
The goal of Purin is to divide Europe. Make Europe scared so they are to afraid to help ukrain. The Putin tool inside Europe : Orban .... ĺet us Erope, Ignore Orban and let him say clear that he is against Putin or get out of Europe. Dont let him stager the knie of putin in the back of Europe.
Will they use animals ,women and children? No men there to fight be reasonable don't live in denial accept changes and dynamics Russia is not Iraq neither Yugoslavia, western hegemony is over if someone tells you to fight and won't take part in the war then your a idiot and a vassal can't defeat russia this is for free
It's easy to say that until you're at war. 32 Ukrainian men died on the border with Romania trying to swim across the river to avoid mobilization and sending to war. They had a choice.
he'd rather take some of ukriaine because that part is hungarian and was granted to ukraine during Soviet Union, besides Jelensky gov mobilise hungarians into his meat troops ..
They already do it in thr first stage of the war. Russia wihtdraw their troops as a sign of good will for signing peace agreememt But boris told that they may not accept peace deal with russia, after that, ukraine betray russia by abandoning the agreement. And ukraine declared that russia has lost the battle of Kyiv using propaganda media.
And the guarantees that Ukraine does not join NATO? The guarantees that Ukraine respects the autonomy of Eastern Ukraine? How is he gonna simply withdraw without these things?
By a Kremlin yes man ....no he and the Ukrainians have done a great job have pushed the Kremlin dwarf back ....Ruzzian finances in free fall ..begging rocket man for help...dont trust the Kremlin dwarf ....
Don't be delusional. Ukraine admitted they have huge problems with russian glide bombs. Did you see size of that shit? Fab 3000? It can destroy whole building. Plus AA systems are another problem. Man power the biggest problem for ukraine.
in times of war no can't replace a president and all elections will pause, if you are willing try to convince PUTIN to stepdown give other a change to sit for presidency same as Ukraine President to stop resisting and it will resort to peace 100%.
January 2022, Kiev was shelling Donbas daily and to the greatest extent in years. The obstacle to peace has long been Ukrainian ultranationalists and the Anglo-American alliance.
The loser doesn’t dictate the outcome. Those areas have been rebuilt with new homes, stores and factories. Why would those people want to go back to Ukraine rule, Zelensky has outlawed their language, book, music and religious leaders.
Thats like building a house on someone else's property then claiming its yours. Ukraine is a sovereign country. Get that through your head now and the outcome of this war might be easier for you to swallow.
@@geraldos9094 Who's the loser? Have you seen the amount of charred T90, T70 tanks, S300 and S400 in Ukraine? Not to talk of personel. Russia is slowly being degraded. It is in no position to make terms, not to talk of the terms it's leader put forth the other day.
In 2019, Ukraine voted for the pragmatic peace candidate. He won by a landslide 73%. The former leader of Right Sector, Dmytro Yarosh, said that Zelensky would be hung from a tree if he implemented the Minsk agreements. Hollande, Merkel and Poroshenko said they had no intention of pursuing/implementing those international agreements. Dmytro was leader of Right Sector, who claim to have coordinated the Odessa Trade Unions building massacre. He was hired as personal advisor to Zaluzhnyi in 2021.
Before countries stand with ukraine and send more money, can we demand ukrainians abroad to go back to ukraine and fight. If ukrainian men amd women(yes women too) dont care, then why should others or i care?
@@hazelwray4184In 1997, ruzzia signed the Partition Treaty on the Status and Conditions of the Black Sea Fleet, in which ruzzia agreed to the sovereignty and borders of Ukraine, as well as agreeing not to interfere in the internal affairs of Ukraine.
orban is trying to convince selenskyj coz inside russia,the muslim extremists are growing in numbers but selenskyj said no😂😂😂.ukraine must wait a little bit time then russia will crumbles inside😂😂😂
May be you want treatment like Ukraine 😅.... Dude stop day dreaming... If there is Direct confrontation between Russia and collective west then there would be no winners.... Only anhilation... Come to your senses.... The whole of Europe will be a battleground ... A very small nation with little & aged population... It would be painful for them .... NATO members like America, Canada , Australia have no borders with Russia so there would be less chance to survive but Europe will be razed to the ground.... I don't think people will support this foolishness... It's America and the UK proxy war in Ukraine against Russia so let them fight directly.... Don't be part of destruction .... Don't think the US will come to the rescue as history says that US never fought any war independently even with tiny nation like Afghanistan or Iraq 😅.....
@@yaten_sharma.007Dude you when to far. We’re just talking about Orban not aligning to the west. Putin running out of ammunition n missile. How can he maintain his war effort?
Orban suggested to consider ceasefire and negotiations for peace; US is sending more billions and weapons package for “security” of Ukraine; So, who is supporting and prolonging this senseless war and provoking for nuclear world war ?
"who is supporting and prolonging this senseless war and provoking for nuclear world war " The war could end tomorrow, if Russia withdraws its forces from Ukraine.
@@johnmackenzie3030 urging for a “quick” ceasefire might emphasize that any ceasefire must ensure Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. President Volodymyr Zelensky could argue that a premature ceasefire without addressing the root causes of the conflict and without guarantees for Ukraine’s security could merely provide Russia with an opportunity to regroup and prepare for future aggression. Thus, Ukraine seeks a just and lasting peace, not a temporary halt that compromises its independence and the safety of its citizens.
Ukraine’s top negotiator, Davyd Arakhamia: Russia was “prepared to end the war if we agreed to... neutrality, and committed that we would not join NATO.” But the US and UK stood in the way.
A ceasefire can not be considered in isolation. It should be supported by an United Nations sponsored referendum in the breakaway Republics Luhansk Donetsk Zaparohzie and Kherson so that the people can decide which block they want to belong to either Ukraine European Union or alternatively Russian Federation. In addition the Ukraine must be handsomely rewarded by making such a generous gesture and be admitted into the European Union and NATO in return. Thank you very much and enjoy your afternoon ☺️☺️😊😊
@@MyulMang-uk9oy Look the Western Alliance has outright rejected any justification for the war in particular those that are derived straight out of the Kremlin playbook. Thank you very much and enjoy your day ☺️☺️
@@fredwang6354 What are you even saying, Mr fred Do you even hear what you are saying? Why do you think the War started first, huh? If you don't know anything, shut up and zip up and don't act Corny🤣🤣!
the loser is the one rejecting the peace deal?😭😭😭😭the ukrainians should wake up and stop this foolishness behavior of zelensky and remove him for peace to be attained.
Zelensky opted for the war,he refused Minsk and Istanbul talks with Russia and accepted Boris Johnson's proposal for the war. He decided for the destruction of Ukraine and numerous deaths of Ukrainians. Let's hope that Ukrainians will deal with him one day.
Do you need some stuff to learn about this war it's a NATO's best interest to have wars because that's how they make money a very simple answer is Russia does not want Nado on the border and they will do anything to protect there Border
Still does not give Russia the right the way they are fighting the war Ukraine could have joined the EU not NATO Russia would have never been in Ukraine ask the European leaders why they keep talking about war war war war war war and I trying to push for peace
Get off bbc you still with the old lies. We will vote for Trump. The Ukrainian nazis should stop their agresions or they should face justice or hide. The corrupt warmongers in the west like macron or shotz are fallin bad very bad.
Russia wont leave their new oblast. Ukraine better stop attacking those lands. They lost it in casus belis. That is what you get when you follow a bunch of nazis.
Moreover, stronger countries can, under far-fetched pretexts, destroy weaker countries, kill civilians, overthrow the legitimate government. And you always accept it. When the US and the UK do this to weaker countries. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Syria, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya.
I'm surprised you are asking this question. You really must not be living on planet earth. Because that's exactly how the world works. How do you think the US got Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Texas etc...
The U.S sent 61 Billion dollars to Ukraine, but that's not enough, so they are sending 2.3 Billion more. When you are a failure, you send money to make up for being a failure.
Dude, the current $2.3 billion is just part of the promised $61 billion. The US didn't just hand over all $61 billion to Ukraine. It is been handed over in small fractions in the form of military and economic assistance.
Its from the 60b package. You really thought they sent 60 billion instantly? That 60 billion is in packages through the whole year. Ukraine requests for example patriot restocks and artillery for one, while the other is for vehicles and javelins.
@@Chivalry2Clips It''s beside the point whether the mney and weapons are in one package or spread throughout the year, the US taxpayer is still footing the bill for the destruction of Ukraine.
@@bernardedwards8461 so let russia, the invader just annex it because ur afraid to pay like 3 bucks to stop a country that attempted to also freeze europe by cutting gas and raising gas prices globally.
Orban is only one of several conferenciers for 6 months for the _Council of the European Union._ Let's say he's a servant. And he is not the _President_ of this council, but Hungary as country holds the rotating _Presidency_ (MC - master of ceremonies) for this short period of time. More important is the elected _President of the European Council_ (2.5 years, several terms possible) Charles Michel. You need to learn that a president of the EU does factually not exist. There are several boards/bodies which represent the policy of the EU. None of them decides anything alone.
Victor Orban is legal Hungarian President, Zelensky is not legal president of Ukraine since 21 May 2o24 as per Ukraine Constitution which clearly states that in time of martial law Speaker of Verkhovna Rada takes the position until election is held - any document Zelensky signed after 21 May is not legally valid by international law - so Zelensky have to get out of the way, not Orban
@@elbibwen3019Nor is Pootin legal president of ruzzia. To be president you need to be elected in a free and fair election. There hasn't been one of those in ruzzia for 20 years.
I must admit that this Lloyd Austin guy still follows his president’s advice,I am sure he hasn’t seen the debate between his president & Trump 😂😂😂😂😂.lol
Weak RuZZia are finished, so heavily depleted they won’t recover from this. You reap what you sow. It’s all Dictator VP’s fault, the bloodthirsty vampire!
Orban is certainly making himself look foolish by meeting up with leaders of two countries at war WITHOUT European U knowledge or permission, dangerous and foolish back patting appeasing will not rid putin of his ambitions which will include Hungary in the long term.
Zelensky didn't try to prevent the conflict through diplomacy because he lacks honor and integrity. In 2014 there was a coup. Soon after, there was a massacre in Odessa (dozens of people were burned alive). Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. A civil war broke out due to the rise in ethnic tensions. For 8 years the Ukrainian military was indiscriminately shelling civilians living in Donbas. If Zelensky honored the Minsk agreement and pledged neutrality, none of this would have happened. The 8 year civil war would have ended and Donbas would have remained part of Ukraine. War is the ultimate failure of diplomacy. Zelensky, Poroshenko, Merkel and Hollande admitted that Ukraine had no intention to honor the Minsk agreements. Who didn't want peace? Who advised against the 2022 peace talks in April? Hint: someone visited Zelensky in Kiev at that time. Russia's national security was compromised once NATO began to expand eastwards. Russia clearly stated that Ukraine joining NATO was a red line (November 2021) and unfortunately this concern was never taken seriously. The Russians openly stated: if nothing changes, we will be forced to act in order to defend our national security. Enhancing the national security of one country at the expense of another is unacceptable. The Russians have legitimate security concerns. 20th September, 2021. Ukraine launched military drills with US and NATO NATO is not a defensive alliance. NATO illegally bombed Yugoslavia (a direct violation of the U.N. Charter). We should never forget what they did to Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq etc. Who blew up the pipeline causing an environmental disaster? Zelensky banned all opposition and arrested a leading priest. Zelensky tried to invoke article 5 under false pretenses. Remember the incident in Poland. Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. Poroshenko said, “Our children will go to schools and kindergartens-theirs will hide in the basements”. Russians will never forget the 2014 Odessa massacre. The whole world needs to know about it. Why was Denis Kireev eliminated? He was a member of Ukraine's negotiating team during the peace negotiations. He wanted to help his country. Ukraine has a hit list. They target artists, journalists and ordinary citizens. Hundreds of children are on this list. 13 year old Faina Savenkova was placed on this list. Pink Floyd's Roger Waters is on this list. Jimmy Dore (American stand-up comedian, podcaster) and Aaron Maté (Canadian writer and journalist) are on this list. There is evidence that Ukrainian troops have been indiscriminately shelling civilians in Donbas (they used petal mines and targeted areas where there was no military presence). The azov troops trapped in the azovstal steelworks in Mariupol used human shields. They refused to allow civilians to leave despite of humanitarian corridors being present. Russia held a proposed cease fire in order for the civilians to leave, but azov would not allow the civilians to leave. Ukraine has committed many acts of terrorism (car bombs and other forms of assassination). Darya Dugina (journalist) R.I.P. The first terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed the truck driver and the individuals in the adjacent car (innocent civilian victims). The second terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed two parents and severely injured their young daughter. I have done a lot of research and it took me a long time to write this comment. I have stated a lot of facts and I have given my honest opinion. I have provided a brief summary of events that took place. In order to explain this whole situation in great detail, a book would need to be written. Hopefully someone will write an UNBIASED book, stating facts and allowing the readers to form their own judgments. Everything I said can be fact checked and verified.
during the last 2 years since the beginning of the ukranian war aye have followed the same methology and policy writting down articles and analysis always to be well '''documented''' on the side of russia,, aye must admitt that you are one of the few writters with documented view and wise knowledge presenting by seniority all facts,,, but for my surprise many of my articles where deleted some how and later on they have being again demonstrated when usefull informations were used for somebodys '''benefit''' the funny thing is that all those who gave a fight for russia seems to be '''the black sheep''' in their countries and in exchange they also received the ingratitude of '''the wholy bread''' from those who they supported,,,,aye hope that you will be more lucky then my humble personality,,,,, face it man [athens greece]
no ceasefire Ukraine already devastated the only things left is to fell the invader the nightmare the made, devastated Ukraine in exchange for economic downfall of the invader. Russia can't take this war for decade but Ukraine can with the help of allied countries and if this war can reach to 7 years or more , Russia don't have enough machines and economies collapse due to Ukraine aiming their energy facilities and russia burn their money for weapons and recruitment.
@@tr7chicken70 do you think the coffers of the allies are unlimited? Not to mention they have to think of their own security and Russia's allies were not even heavily involved like the West yet, that means the can continue further than you think if you don't have the strength to force them out it's all talk and their helpers are already tired he should have never opted for war as a solution
Mr. Austin is proud to release another $ 2 billions more to Zelinski, and told him anytime sir because our president is busy traveling for election but the money are not from our bank account , I will send the amount after I received my kickback ,niece to do business till end of October 24.
after 21 May 2o24 Zelensky is not legal president of Ukraine by Ukraine Constitution, which clearly states that in case of martial law Speaker of Verkhovna Rada takes presidential position by duty until election is held - any document Zelensky signed after that is not legally valid
Heres a clue to both; because theyvsay the two are mainly in it, try using two leaders via written proposal and start with no one else . Do they have what it takes to negotiate? Should they be trusted when many reports are saying many dead for what?
Best peace deal possible: Russia whitdraws from eastern Ukraine and Ukraine can join EU. In exchange Russia keeps Crimea and Ukraine will not join NATO.
Why would ordinary decent hard working EU citizens want Ukraine in EU?? The EU is bad enough as it is, but adding one of the most corrupt countries to the EU block - itd be us EU citizens who'd have to pump billions into the country post war. Im not paying for the aftermath of zelenski/nato's war with Russia, i dont support any sides in any war as its always ordinary citizens on all sides that end up suffering.
@@thatsjustmygame5148 ... except when it became part of Ukraine 😂 You dummies only seem to refer to the parts of history you like and conveniently "forget" about the rest of it 😂😂😂
No... I have no money, but I want to _live_ is how you can think of it. And the _I_ in that sentence represents Ukraine as a state, culture and people. I don't know if you've ever tried, but I don't think the solution to shooting down cruise missiles flying towards your maternity hospitals and apartment buildings is to use a $2 kids toy crossbow. But clearly you know better, why don't you lay your sophisticated knowledge on them, they clearly have a lot to learn 😒
I have no money because we have been a puppet state of ruzzia for too long. Now we want to stand on our own two feet, but ruzzia wants its puppet state back.
Western clowns: muh Russia is still at war after two years. Meanwhile these clowns still can't defeat Houthis after almost 6 months. It seems that Houthis became even stronger during this time.
As you said Victor Orban, the peace is slow, yes PUTIN can make it faster by withdrawing all his troops in Ukraine. Then there will be end to this war and suffering , the ball is in PUTIN court to stop his dumb and un-winnable war in Ukraine. ORBAN THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO TELL PUTIN.
Putin has every right to defend his country. Btw, why should other countries care if milions of ukrainians abroad domt care to come back and fight for ukraine?
@@johnvannisselroy6197 whats dumb? So you say france, american or any other people that refuse to send money to ukraine are called russian bots, but ukrainians living outside of ukraine and not gping back to fight are not russian bots? People have enough of your bs logic.
How about exchanging Orban and Hungary for the lands Russia illegally occupied now. I have no problem with that . Orban and Putin can cozy up with Luschenko. In a
Racist Hungarianophobes like you who aren't even from here or from the area need to stay the heck out of our business. I'm sick of you outsiders always bullying us like the others who did the same thing to us for 1100 years.
After the bombing of the children's cancer hospital, Putin has no hope in hell of getting a ceasefire. I was so upset at seeing children with cancer sitting beside the rubble.😢😢😢😢😢
Go back and tell you mate putin, Zelensky say no to your request 😅😅😅
No peace negotiation with the devil.
He is not on behalve of Europe, he is on behave of putin.
The goal of Purin is to divide Europe. Make Europe scared so they are to afraid to help ukrain.
The Putin tool inside Europe : Orban .... ĺet us Erope, Ignore Orban and let him say clear that he is against Putin or get out of Europe. Dont let him stager the knie of putin in the back of Europe.
Desperate putler needs cease fire and instructed orban to go to ukraine then in russia to get his tip money. Good move for orban.🤡🤡
He might be on behalf of Trump.
I see you like him.
Such a good thing he'll be next POTUS!
Turkey Nato's second military power support Hungary. Russia is not our enemy. We want peace. Ukraine is not a Nato member. Russia did not attack Nato.
Now Ukranians fight for Biden and Black Rock and more than a million have died. They lose their land and they would have prevented from the begining.
SLAVA ZELENSKY 💙💛
SLAVA UKRAINI HEROYAM SLAVA 🇺🇦
Orban may well be the best placed person to act as mediator between Russia and Ukraine in any peace negotiations.
He is biased to ward monster Putin but the war will be ending soon anyway because Russia recruitment numbers are declining!😀
Not true ,Orban his a traitor of with other words ,a dubbel agent for Russia . Very untrustfull person .😮😮😮
???. Ridiculous. A putin stooge would hardly be an objective intermediary.
CERTAINLY NOT POOOTINS PUPPET CERTAINLY NOT THE MAN HE CAN FFF OFF HE SHOULD TELL HIS MATE POOOTIN TO WITHDRAW HIS TROOPS 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦✌️
You have no idea what war is and still warmonger, and if you do you're sick.
Amazing.
You need to slow down the text.. It disappears before I can read it.
😂 this is reason why I don't like this chanel
i thought it was only me. Gotta be a speed reader watching this channel ?
Reduce the speed of the video, sir
try using the Pause button you knuckleheads, it's there for a reason.
Video needs chinese russian subtitles
China 🇨🇳 Russia 🇷🇺 World Superpower
Orbans mission was 2 spy 4 Putler
He needs 2 go go!! Orban 🤬
Ukraine have no choice but to fight until Russia withdraw from thier territory they occupied before Feb-2022 and then negotiate to end the war
Will they use animals ,women and children? No men there to fight be reasonable don't live in denial accept changes and dynamics Russia is not Iraq neither Yugoslavia, western hegemony is over if someone tells you to fight and won't take part in the war then your a idiot and a vassal can't defeat russia this is for free
It's easy to say that until you're at war. 32 Ukrainian men died on the border with Romania trying to swim across the river to avoid mobilization and sending to war. They had a choice.
Yo, Russia won’t withdraw. It is Ukraine territory they occupied. You know that. YOU STOP BLAME RUSSIA FOR NO REASON. Dude
Loosers can not dictate. Russia got the upper hand.
I got a good idea, how about orban trades 1/2 of Hungary for a quick peace deal 🤣🤣🤣
he'd rather take some of ukriaine because that part is hungarian and was granted to ukraine during Soviet Union, besides Jelensky gov mobilise hungarians into his meat troops ..
@@dns7587 So its not Hungarian
Turkey Nato's second military power support Hungary. Russia is not our enemy. We want peace. Ukraine is not a Nato member. Russia did not attack Nato.
@@unsalbulent Russia is our enemy because of cyberattacks, political interferance and sabotage.
@@unsalbulent Turkey is fucked by Erdogans 75% inflation. Erdogan = troublemaker... nobody likeshim
Without withdraw of russian troops, any peace or cease fire will be hard
They already do it in thr first stage of the war. Russia wihtdraw their troops as a sign of good will for signing peace agreememt But boris told that they may not accept peace deal with russia, after that, ukraine betray russia by abandoning the agreement. And ukraine declared that russia has lost the battle of Kyiv using propaganda media.
@@philordrubis984 who cares, Russia is evil.
@@philordrubis984 and also that Boris he was a trash leader.
Cry 😂
Withdraw by Russia? C'mon boy they just re group themselves to fortify the offensive 😂 too much kool aid vodka for you today vatnik@@philordrubis984
That peace proposal was not worth paper it was written on 🤬🇺🇲
Unless Orban can convince his Buddy Putin to get the hell out of Ukraine
Why would Putin withdraw?
You seem to be joe biden supporter...
You really think orban is good with Putin that much? Orban is working with israel more than with russia.
Will never happen. Especially Crimea. Russia would go nuclear well before that would happen.
Mate,
I entirely agreed with u.
And the guarantees that Ukraine does not join NATO? The guarantees that Ukraine respects the autonomy of Eastern Ukraine? How is he gonna simply withdraw without these things?
Orban is full of it😅
I bet his purse is overflowing with gold
Oh I can't wait for the day when you will be sent to fight for Ukraine, you will not be blaming Orban then.
Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦 🙌
No Glory to Ukrainian tlil rhey stop being hostile towards the ethnic Hungarin living in Ukraine
@elliottauber9531 get back to sleep baby
@@Mrbb1996 do I look like I'm sleeping you are because you are not aware of treemen of Hungarians in Ukraine
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It's not Orban, it's Putin.
It's not zelensky, it's Johnson and Biden.
@@thedeal86 It’s no Pooootin it’s a small Vampire who lives in a bunker
@@Matt1975ismIt's not Pooootin . It's the West . Full of idiots . 😏
As long as Zelensky is around, all peace deal will always be rejected. He needs to be replaced.
By a Kremlin yes man ....no he and the Ukrainians have done a great job have pushed the Kremlin dwarf back ....Ruzzian finances in free fall ..begging rocket man for help...dont trust the Kremlin dwarf ....
BS !! Why does he need to be replaced?? Putins the one that needs to be replaced!!
You spelled Putler wrong...
Comedsky will run away after completing destruction 😅
Abdul, join the Russian army and get a new shovel (made in North Korea)
This shows again that russia is gagging for a ceasefire. Keep pushing, ukraine 🇺🇦 💪
Pushing backwards u mean? It is losing more territories so bad right now.
Pushing genocide for Ukrainian people 😢
😂😂😂😂😂😂. Pushing where? Backwards
Don't be delusional. Ukraine admitted they have huge problems with russian glide bombs. Did you see size of that shit? Fab 3000? It can destroy whole building. Plus AA systems are another problem. Man power the biggest problem for ukraine.
Russia need ceasefire now because the sanctions started to bite them hard 😅😂
Allow more time to read the texts … Difficult to fully read them
A ceasefire means Zelensky is not a legitimate president and has to run for his life.
in times of war no can't replace a president and all elections will pause, if you are willing try to convince PUTIN to stepdown give other a change to sit for presidency same as Ukraine President to stop resisting and it will resort to peace 100%.
😂😂😂 Russians with their small brains
Hey Ivan you 've got that the wrong way around.
Zelensky isn't stupid........he's fighting for freedom, for his people....we all know, what will be, if Putin goes ahead....🇧🇧🇧🇧🇧🇧💪✌
so what at least russian r dying also
Orban should ask his buddy, Vlad to consider giving back Ukrainian territories for the sake of peace.
January 2022, Kiev was shelling Donbas daily and to the greatest extent in years. The obstacle to peace has long been Ukrainian ultranationalists and the Anglo-American alliance.
The loser doesn’t dictate the outcome. Those areas have been rebuilt with new homes, stores and factories. Why would those people want to go back to Ukraine rule, Zelensky has outlawed their language, book, music and religious leaders.
Thats like building a house on someone else's property then claiming its yours. Ukraine is a sovereign country. Get that through your head now and the outcome of this war might be easier for you to swallow.
@@geraldos9094 Who's the loser? Have you seen the amount of charred T90, T70 tanks, S300 and S400 in Ukraine? Not to talk of personel. Russia is slowly being degraded. It is in no position to make terms, not to talk of the terms it's leader put forth the other day.
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Good job stand with Ukraine 🇺🇦 ❤
In 2019, Ukraine voted for the pragmatic peace candidate. He won by a landslide 73%.
The former leader of Right Sector, Dmytro Yarosh, said that Zelensky would be hung from a tree if he implemented the Minsk agreements. Hollande, Merkel and Poroshenko said they had no intention of pursuing/implementing those international agreements.
Dmytro was leader of Right Sector, who claim to have coordinated the Odessa Trade Unions building massacre. He was hired as personal advisor to Zaluzhnyi in 2021.
Before countries stand with ukraine and send more money, can we demand ukrainians abroad to go back to ukraine and fight. If ukrainian men amd women(yes women too) dont care, then why should others or i care?
@@hazelwray4184In 1994, ruzzia signed the Budapest Memorandum, in which ruzzia recognized the sovereignty and borders of Ukraine.
@@hazelwray4184In 1997, ruzzia signed the Partition Treaty on the Status and Conditions of the Black Sea Fleet, in which ruzzia agreed to the sovereignty and borders of Ukraine, as well as agreeing not to interfere in the internal affairs of Ukraine.
@@hazelwray4184In 1997, ruzzia signed the russo-Ukrainian Friendship Treaty in which ruzzia agreed to the sovereignty and borders of Ukraine.
Russia is desperate not long now before they collapse 😂😂😂
Nice joke.
Where have you been this past months? LOL
Getting ready for swan lake...
Orban is right because he knows Ukraine won't win
orban is trying to convince selenskyj coz inside russia,the muslim extremists are growing in numbers but selenskyj said no😂😂😂.ukraine must wait a little bit time then russia will crumbles inside😂😂😂
orban is a poutines stooge plain and simple
I would to see NATO n EU kick him out of the organization. Hungary is not a big deal in NATO n EU organization
Natooo vassal of us
Why? In the democratic world, you are allowed to have a different opinion. Keeps the debate alive
@@Alpha-qh4sb Orban Puppet of Dictator VP
May be you want treatment like Ukraine 😅.... Dude stop day dreaming... If there is Direct confrontation between Russia and collective west then there would be no winners.... Only anhilation... Come to your senses.... The whole of Europe will be a battleground ... A very small nation with little & aged population... It would be painful for them .... NATO members like America, Canada , Australia have no borders with Russia so there would be less chance to survive but Europe will be razed to the ground.... I don't think people will support this foolishness... It's America and the UK proxy war in Ukraine against Russia so let them fight directly.... Don't be part of destruction .... Don't think the US will come to the rescue as history says that US never fought any war independently even with tiny nation like Afghanistan or Iraq 😅.....
@@yaten_sharma.007Dude you when to far. We’re just talking about Orban not aligning to the west. Putin running out of ammunition n missile. How can he maintain his war effort?
Orban suggested to consider ceasefire and negotiations for peace;
US is sending more billions and weapons package for “security” of Ukraine;
So, who is supporting and prolonging this senseless war and provoking for nuclear world war ?
ruzzia is prolonging this war. How did you miss that?
Um....
ruZZia invaded Ukraine.
Period.
"who is supporting and prolonging this senseless war and provoking for nuclear world war " The war could end tomorrow, if Russia withdraws its forces from Ukraine.
Orban is a Clow 🤡🤡
Why is he not asking the same question of his friend Putin. Why is he not asking Putin to give back what he has stolen
Naive remark
@@johnmackenzie3030 OK! Explain
@@johnmackenzie3030 urging for a “quick” ceasefire might emphasize that any ceasefire must ensure Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. President Volodymyr Zelensky could argue that a premature ceasefire without addressing the root causes of the conflict and without guarantees for Ukraine’s security could merely provide Russia with an opportunity to regroup and prepare for future aggression. Thus, Ukraine seeks a just and lasting peace, not a temporary halt that compromises its independence and the safety of its citizens.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@johnmackenzie3030No, not naive, but a very pertinent question.
Ukraine’s top negotiator, Davyd Arakhamia: Russia was “prepared to end the war if we agreed to... neutrality, and committed that we would not join NATO.”
But the US and UK stood in the way.
Who the hell Russia is .?to involve for for telling Ukrainian the dos and dont…its none of business of poptin…
US + UK= US
SLAVA UKRAINI!!!!!!!
A ceasefire can not be considered in isolation. It should be supported by an United Nations sponsored referendum in the breakaway Republics Luhansk Donetsk Zaparohzie and Kherson so that the people can decide which block they want to belong to either Ukraine European Union or alternatively Russian Federation. In addition the Ukraine must be handsomely rewarded by making such a generous gesture and be admitted into the European Union and NATO in return. Thank you very much and enjoy your afternoon ☺️☺️😊😊
You do know that the Entire war started because of Ukraine Nato Ambitions, right?
@@MyulMang-uk9oy Look the Western Alliance has outright rejected any justification for the war in particular those that are derived straight out of the Kremlin playbook. Thank you very much and enjoy your day ☺️☺️
@@fredwang6354 What are you even saying, Mr fred Do you even hear what you are saying?
Why do you think the War started first, huh?
If you don't know anything, shut up and zip up and don't act Corny🤣🤣!
😂😂😂who can trust The US and NATO when they are the real terrorist.???
Problem is those regions have been colonised by pro Russian settlers when the invasion began... so its not a fair vote
I think that orban plays same game as bellarus whits is putins puppet.
Well, that do say something, eh?
the loser is the one rejecting the peace deal?😭😭😭😭the ukrainians should wake up and stop this foolishness behavior of zelensky and remove him for peace to be attained.
No, the loser is ruzzia.
the loser is putin
Interesting that you should write that - the day before Pootin rejects any prace deal.
Slava Ukraine..There can be no peace deams with satan. 🇺🇦♥🇺🇦
You mean Washington rejects it?
Zelensky does not understand that the end of US help is near.
You mean America rejected the peace proposal 😢😢😢😢😢
Orban done his duty now Ukraine have to agree the terms of Russia and allies. Otherwise_____________???
Unless russia is gonna leave ukrine then no.
....Hungary will leave EU and NATO 😂
Putin and Zelensky have no choice but peace.
The Hungarian Persident is walking his talks! Reliable and confident who stands on his own feet and breathes through his own lung, wonderful!
Orban pro Putin and he has on behalf of Putin to announces for
ceasefire
Maybe you should take orbin for a ride around ukraine..show him what ruzzians have done to their country.
Zelensky opted for the war,he refused Minsk and Istanbul talks with Russia and accepted Boris Johnson's proposal for the war. He decided for the destruction of Ukraine and numerous deaths of Ukrainians. Let's hope that Ukrainians will deal with him one day.
Still will not change anything
LAST PEACE ATTEMPT FOR ZELENSKY.
HUNGARY IS MOST NEUTRAL EU NATIONS THAT BOTH UKRAINE AND RUSSIA DEALS WITH.
I think he should better talk to the aggressor to stop the war.
Do you need some stuff to learn about this war it's a NATO's best interest to have wars because that's how they make money a very simple answer is Russia does not want Nado on the border and they will do anything to protect there Border
Still does not give Russia the right the way they are fighting the war Ukraine could have joined the EU not NATO Russia would have never been in Ukraine ask the European leaders why they keep talking about war war war war war war and I trying to push for peace
Hungarian pm supposedly tell that to Poptin not On Zelensky…because even That Ukrainian want peace ..but without withdrawal from Aggressor its useless
Haha, rotten Ukrainian president doesn't have power to dictate his terms.
Get off bbc you still with the old lies. We will vote for Trump. The Ukrainian nazis should stop their agresions or they should face justice or hide. The corrupt warmongers in the west like macron or shotz are fallin bad very bad.
Russia wont leave their new oblast. Ukraine better stop attacking those lands. They lost it in casus belis. That is what you get when you follow a bunch of nazis.
The big queation: Who invaded who?Simple answer, Russian ditador removes his troops from the Ukrainian territory and the war ends.Fact!
The big answer: Nuland with the 5 billion USD.
In What language is the two of them speaking?
Hungarian or Ukrainian?
Both
So it means stronger nations could conquer smaller nations at their own will...and we accept it?
Moreover, stronger countries can, under far-fetched pretexts, destroy weaker countries, kill civilians, overthrow the legitimate government. And you always accept it. When the US and the UK do this to weaker countries. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Syria, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya.
This is modern naivety. Read a history book, and it will answer your question pretty quickly.
I'm surprised you are asking this question. You really must not be living on planet earth. Because that's exactly how the world works. How do you think the US got Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Texas etc...
The U.S sent 61 Billion dollars to Ukraine, but that's not enough, so they are sending 2.3 Billion more. When you are a failure, you send money to make up for being a failure.
Dude, the current $2.3 billion is just part of the promised $61 billion. The US didn't just hand over all $61 billion to Ukraine. It is been handed over in small fractions in the form of military and economic assistance.
Awell known military principle is that you should never reinforce failure, aways reinforce success.
Its from the 60b package. You really thought they sent 60 billion instantly? That 60 billion is in packages through the whole year. Ukraine requests for example patriot restocks and artillery for one, while the other is for vehicles and javelins.
@@Chivalry2Clips It''s beside the point whether the mney and weapons are in one package or spread throughout the year, the US taxpayer is still footing the bill for the destruction of Ukraine.
@@bernardedwards8461 so let russia, the invader just annex it because ur afraid to pay like 3 bucks to stop a country that attempted to also freeze europe by cutting gas and raising gas prices globally.
Turkey Nato's second military power support Hungary. Russia is not our enemy. We want peace. Ukraine is not a Nato member. Russia did not attack Nato.
If the EU has to vote on aid to Ukraine, the EU president may have to be told to get out of the room again.
Orban is only one of several conferenciers for 6 months for the _Council of the European Union._ Let's say he's a servant. And he is not the _President_ of this council, but Hungary as country holds the rotating _Presidency_ (MC - master of ceremonies) for this short period of time.
More important is the elected _President of the European Council_ (2.5 years, several terms possible) Charles Michel.
You need to learn that a president of the EU does factually not exist. There are several boards/bodies which represent the policy of the EU. None of them decides anything alone.
Victor Orban is legal Hungarian President, Zelensky is not legal president of Ukraine since 21 May 2o24 as per Ukraine Constitution which clearly states that in time of martial law Speaker of Verkhovna Rada takes the position until election is held - any document Zelensky signed after 21 May is not legally valid by international law - so Zelensky have to get out of the way, not Orban
@@elbibwen3019Nor is Pootin legal president of ruzzia. To be president you need to be elected in a free and fair election. There hasn't been one of those in ruzzia for 20 years.
@@johnvannisselroy6197 source: fake news, right?
@@akakiiakakievich1646Is that what you listen to?
I must admit that this Lloyd Austin guy still follows his president’s advice,I am sure he hasn’t seen the debate between his president & Trump 😂😂😂😂😂.lol
The US/NATO now cannot avoid their total defeat on the Ukraine battlefield.
Weak RuZZia are finished, so heavily depleted they won’t recover from this. You reap what you sow. It’s all Dictator VP’s fault, the bloodthirsty vampire!
It's like a double standard person, persuading the single standard person☝
Is Putin making a fool of Orban?
Orban is certainly making himself look foolish by meeting up with leaders of two countries at war WITHOUT European U knowledge or permission, dangerous and foolish back patting appeasing will not rid putin of his ambitions which will include Hungary in the long term.
Orban ,putins errand boy
Orban is right, but the peace is difficult to bring it to the table, Zelenskey don't want peace, Zelenskey want war in EU .
Exactly.
BS statement. PUTIN doesn't want peace, he could leave at any time.
Tell to putin to leave ukraine and there will be peace.
He talks with sense, orban.
Zelensky didn't try to prevent the conflict through diplomacy because he lacks honor and integrity.
In 2014 there was a coup. Soon after, there was a massacre in Odessa (dozens of people were burned alive). Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. A civil war broke out due to the rise in ethnic tensions. For 8 years the Ukrainian military was indiscriminately shelling civilians living in Donbas.
If Zelensky honored the Minsk agreement and pledged neutrality, none of this would have happened. The 8 year civil war would have ended and Donbas would have remained part of Ukraine. War is the ultimate failure of diplomacy.
Zelensky, Poroshenko, Merkel and Hollande admitted that Ukraine had no intention to honor the Minsk agreements.
Who didn't want peace? Who advised against the 2022 peace talks in April? Hint: someone visited Zelensky in Kiev at that time.
Russia's national security was compromised once NATO began to expand eastwards. Russia clearly stated that Ukraine joining NATO was a red line (November 2021) and unfortunately this concern was never taken seriously. The Russians openly stated: if nothing changes, we will be forced to act in order to defend our national security. Enhancing the national security of one country at the expense of another is unacceptable. The Russians have legitimate security concerns.
20th September, 2021. Ukraine launched military drills with US and NATO
NATO is not a defensive alliance. NATO illegally bombed Yugoslavia (a direct violation of the U.N. Charter).
We should never forget what they did to Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq etc.
Who blew up the pipeline causing an environmental disaster?
Zelensky banned all opposition and arrested a leading priest.
Zelensky tried to invoke article 5 under false pretenses. Remember the incident in Poland.
Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed.
Poroshenko said, “Our children will go to schools and kindergartens-theirs will hide in the basements”.
Russians will never forget the 2014 Odessa massacre. The whole world needs to know about it.
Why was Denis Kireev eliminated? He was a member of Ukraine's negotiating team during the peace negotiations. He wanted to help his country.
Ukraine has a hit list. They target artists, journalists and ordinary citizens. Hundreds of children are on this list. 13 year old Faina Savenkova was placed on this list.
Pink Floyd's Roger Waters is on this list. Jimmy Dore (American stand-up comedian, podcaster) and Aaron Maté (Canadian writer and journalist) are on this list.
There is evidence that Ukrainian troops have been indiscriminately shelling civilians in Donbas (they used petal mines and targeted areas where there was no military presence).
The azov troops trapped in the azovstal steelworks in Mariupol used human shields. They refused to allow civilians to leave despite of humanitarian corridors being present.
Russia held a proposed cease fire in order for the civilians to leave, but azov would not allow the civilians to leave.
Ukraine has committed many acts of terrorism (car bombs and other forms of assassination). Darya Dugina (journalist) R.I.P.
The first terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed the truck driver and the individuals in the adjacent car (innocent civilian victims).
The second terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed two parents and severely injured their young daughter.
I have done a lot of research and it took me a long time to write this comment. I have stated a lot of facts and I have given my honest opinion.
I have provided a brief summary of events that took place. In order to explain this whole situation in great detail, a book would need to be written.
Hopefully someone will write an UNBIASED book, stating facts and allowing the readers to form their own judgments. Everything I said can be fact checked and verified.
during the last 2 years since the beginning of the ukranian war aye have followed the same methology and policy writting down articles and analysis always to be well '''documented''' on the side of russia,, aye must admitt that you are one of the few
writters with documented view and wise knowledge presenting by seniority all facts,,,
but for my surprise many of my articles where deleted some how and later on they have being again demonstrated
when usefull informations were used for somebodys '''benefit'''
the funny thing is that all those who gave a fight for russia seems to be '''the black sheep''' in their countries and in exchange
they also received the ingratitude of '''the wholy bread''' from those who they supported,,,,aye hope that you will be more lucky
then my humble personality,,,,,
face it man [athens greece]
The NATO leader went to shake hands with his old boss, but the NATO body did not go with him.
Iran out of ammo!
If somebody invaded my house and occupied a room and then asked for a ceasefire, the answer would be NO!
But if in others rooms live others family members , dont u wanna stop ,for their lives at least?
@@sayler7960 One room occupied today; another tomorrow.
no ceasefire Ukraine already devastated the only things left is to fell the invader the nightmare the made, devastated Ukraine in exchange for economic downfall of the invader. Russia can't take this war for decade but Ukraine can with the help of allied countries and if this war can reach to 7 years or more , Russia don't have enough machines and economies collapse due to Ukraine aiming their energy facilities and russia burn their money for weapons and recruitment.
@@tr7chicken70 do you think the coffers of the allies are unlimited? Not to mention they have to think of their own security and Russia's allies were not even heavily involved like the West yet, that means the can continue further than you think
if you don't have the strength to force them out it's all talk and their helpers are already tired he should have never opted for war as a solution
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Orban should be ashamed of his cowardice.
Shame for wanting the war to end and wanting peace you are shameful
he want a portion of hungary donated to Ukraine and let Ukraine deal with peace let annex region be russian control. How was it Orban.
Talking to the clown akin to talking to a cow to climb a tree
address your speech to putin
Mr. Austin is proud to release another $ 2 billions more to Zelinski, and told him anytime sir because our president is busy traveling for election but the money are not from our bank account , I will send the amount after I received my kickback ,niece to do business till end of October 24.
after 21 May 2o24 Zelensky is not legal president of Ukraine by Ukraine Constitution, which clearly states that in case of martial law Speaker of Verkhovna Rada takes presidential position by duty until election is held - any document Zelensky signed after that is not legally valid
Orban work for Russia,
Heres a clue to both; because theyvsay the two are mainly in it, try using two leaders via written proposal and start with no one else . Do they have what it takes to negotiate? Should they be trusted when many reports are saying many dead for what?
Best peace deal possible: Russia whitdraws from eastern Ukraine and Ukraine can join EU. In exchange Russia keeps Crimea and Ukraine will not join NATO.
This was the basis for the agreements in Istanbul, it is clear who rejected them.
Why would ordinary decent hard working EU citizens want Ukraine in EU?? The EU is bad enough as it is, but adding one of the most corrupt countries to the EU block - itd be us EU citizens who'd have to pump billions into the country post war. Im not paying for the aftermath of zelenski/nato's war with Russia, i dont support any sides in any war as its always ordinary citizens on all sides that end up suffering.
"Keep Crimea" as if Crimea wasn't already a part of Russia 😂. Crimea is Russian territory and it has been for over 2 centuries.
@@thatsjustmygame5148 ... except when it became part of Ukraine 😂 You dummies only seem to refer to the parts of history you like and conveniently "forget" about the rest of it 😂😂😂
@@Dr.Mabuse44 that's the fact and never reported in MSM
Orban plays the role of savior....he does not fit in that suit. He will shoot in his own foot with all these split tongeu talks.
I have No money, but I want to live in 5 star hotel that the way of thinking of President Zelensky.
Sure if you believe propaganda easily. Lets just ignore putin owning a 1.4 billion mansion.
You are a Russion troll !! 😂😂
@Ko Ko Gyi You are a F O O L with no money. Jog on piece of _ _ _ t
No... I have no money, but I want to _live_ is how you can think of it. And the _I_ in that sentence represents Ukraine as a state, culture and people.
I don't know if you've ever tried, but I don't think the solution to shooting down cruise missiles flying towards your maternity hospitals and apartment buildings is to use a $2 kids toy crossbow. But clearly you know better, why don't you lay your sophisticated knowledge on them, they clearly have a lot to learn 😒
I have no money because we have been a puppet state of ruzzia for too long.
Now we want to stand on our own two feet, but ruzzia wants its puppet state back.
Zelensky must offer Orban a window to look out from.
Ceasefire 🇷🇺 lol why u can't handle the pressure no more!😏
Ukriane took some part of Hungary during Soviet Union, and now Jelensky gov mobilise hungarians into his meat troopers ..
Western clowns: muh Russia is still at war after two years.
Meanwhile these clowns still can't defeat Houthis after almost 6 months.
It seems that Houthis became even stronger during this time.
did they declare war to houtis?
Silly Dombass. There are no Houthis in Ukraine.
@@leur8610 did Russia declared war to Ukraine?
@@johnvannisselroy6197 high IQ comment.
@Dmitrij-nl3sc but Russia used all it had minus nuclear weapons., but still the 3 days war is now coming to 3 years 😄 🤣
Poor has not choice 😭
Break up with putin 🤣 so that your country not suffering from sanctions 🤣😂 must interesting if putin do that not you.
Ukraine should have arrested Orban and send him to the frontline.
Only $2.3 billion, come on, don't be so cheap...
Ur not suppose to send all 60 billion at once.
😂😂😂😂😂 Zelensky is the biggest loser getting beat up and still asking for more.???
BS.
Zelensky needs to be put in prison man. He is a psychopath.
It is cowardly war criminal putin that needs to go to prison for his war crimes
Zlensky remember that,Zelensky must not trust Orban,Orban work for Russia,
Pooton needs stop soiling his diaper and let Ukraine realize it's full potential militarily, why these silly limits what is he afraid of❓🤔
As you said Victor Orban, the peace is slow, yes PUTIN can make it faster by withdrawing all his troops in Ukraine. Then there will be end to this war and suffering , the ball is in PUTIN court to stop his dumb and un-winnable war in Ukraine. ORBAN THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO TELL PUTIN.
Putin has every right to defend his country. Btw, why should other countries care if milions of ukrainians abroad domt care to come back and fight for ukraine?
@@kam1470Silly Kam. What a Dombass you are.
@@johnvannisselroy6197 whats dumb? So you say france, american or any other people that refuse to send money to ukraine are called russian bots, but ukrainians living outside of ukraine and not gping back to fight are not russian bots? People have enough of your bs logic.
@kam1470 You saying "ruzzia has right to defend itself" is what makes you a Dombass. ruzzia is the aggressor.
@@johnvannisselroy6197 how about 2nd part of my comment?:)
THE END IS IN NOVEMBER 2024.
Orban just went there and gave P Z a final warning: "THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE. I'm not speaking for anyone; remind yourself. "
Russian federation is so far ahead on Ukraine
In terms of indebtedness, at least.
On what planet? Russia is BROKE. They can barely FEED their troops. They'll implode at any moment. Do NOT give pootin ONE INCH of Ukrainian land !
Orban🤡
Yu confused Zelenski with Orban
@@katangabenj868 ABSOLUTLY No confusion here Orban is a sh*t show just like Lukachenko.
@@katangabenj868 nope 😆
ORBAN pootin protector
I think Zilensky must be forcefully removed from power...he represents disaster.
Your mouth should be forcefully shut...
Zelinsky must go with the west, no exceptions.
Why
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ohh man. Is only orban the man in hungaria. Hmm... hungarian pity.
How about exchanging Orban and Hungary for the lands Russia illegally occupied now. I have no problem with that . Orban and Putin can cozy up with Luschenko. In a
Racist Hungarianophobes like you who aren't even from here or from the area need to stay the heck out of our business. I'm sick of you outsiders always bullying us like the others who did the same thing to us for 1100 years.