I Do (Not) Love This Movie | EVANGELION 3.0+1.0 Movie Review
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I Do (Not) Love This Movie. In this EVANGELION 3.0+1.0 Movie Review, JobbytheHong critiques the latest addition to the Neon Genesis Evangelion / Rebuild of Evangelion anime franchise. This is also Jobby's attempt at an "Evangelion Ending Explained" video. Also known as Evangelion 3.0 + 1.0 Thrice Upon a Time, this anime movie is the final Evangelion movie directed by Hideaki Anno. Sad to see him go, he handled his characters so well: Shinji Ikari, Rei Ayanami, Asuka, and Mari. Evangelion Rebuild would not be the same without her....I wish I was watching End of Evangelion
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Wait, did you read the manga my dude?
GvK movie review?
Just one thing to say Jobby, at the end shinji *SPOILERS* tells Kaoru that he remembers now all the other times he has meet him, so he most likely remembers his past loops, and thus, all of his past sufferings *END OF SPOILERS*
iirc in one of the side material Mari was one of Fuyutsuki's department's youngest members and she was jelly Gendo picked Yui instead of her, and something something ageing suspension so she went after Shinji.
Just a reminder than wife-inserts are often really jarring, just look at the Resident Evil movies after the first few, and the Monster Hunter live action movie. Wife fanfiction is terrible.
Hey jobbythehong did you watch Godzilla singular point
"The ending was too optimistic"
He is definitely an Evangelion fan
Idk about that quote
OG Evangelion visual novel bad end rebuild Evangelion visual novel good end
I even liked the alternative ending of The End of Evangelion more, the one which ends with Shinji holding somebody's hand and saying 'oh I think nobody will ever come back' and you see he's actually holding the chopped hand of a corpse.
What? There's an alternate ending?
@@francisumlas6550 only on paper, it was discarded in early production... there are many of those 'alternate scenes' at least in the case of Evangelion... they changed a lot of things on the fly. Even the piace of dialogue 'kimochi warui' wasn't in the original script (according to what legends say)
“Life is hard, but it doesn’t have to be Hell.”
Too true, JobbyTheHong… too true.
Uh, Sephiroth… did you delete your comment?
Because I can’t see it on my screen.
@@pramusetyakanca1552 out of context this really looks like you hallucinating, which I relate to I love pretending Sephiroth talks to me... If only, if only
That line hits hard
Actually no. A user by the name of Sephiroth ACTUALLY commented.
But turns out he deleted it. Can you help with that Jobby? If not that’s OK.
yes amazing
Evangelion 5.55: You Will (Not) Go Bald
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holy crap its Jobbys Son
Never expected to see you here
Interstella 5.555: The Story of the (Not so) Secret Star System
Well mari name is Iscariotes like judas...... If then else!!! Ahhh forget it just go on living like Escaflowne in the end!!!
While I honestly liked the movie because it was more optimistic, I do agree that it felt kinda weird at the end. Especially with Mari suddenly getting together with Shinji despite them barely interacting with each other throughout the movies. But I think it's because Mari was supposed to be based on Anno's wife according to one of my friends.
Yeah there's a lot of background context to Mari being Anno's wife-insert. A lot of Japanese fans iirc when the movie first came out, especially the old Eva nerds and the generation of otaku Anno helped foster weren't happy with what they perceived as Anno say "lol just find a hot, supportive wife like me lol anime isn't real" which is compounded by a whole bunch of dialogue and scenes throughout the movie. The amount of shade Anno throws at his fans (from an early line in the movie about all young men do is complain to the heart-to-heart conversation with Gendo and the scene in the mocap room) was honestly HILARIOUS and I don't blame him since (a) they keep insisting on dragging him back to a franchise he doesn't have particularly good memories of and (b) he really, really does like his own fans
I liked that Shinji didn’t end up with a long- established character. How could he only have one of them if he shared very intimate feelings for all of them?
@@sedftnio I agree with this. Especially since the best girl Asuka-Rei war has been raging for far too long. I personally find that Asuka is my favorite, but it would feel like an injustice to both Shinji's and her own character for them to just end up together.
I wish we got a little more time with Mari as a character. But our boy is finally happy so I'm good.
According to some interviews with the director/cast/crew , Shinji doesn't necessarily end up with Mari as the interaction wasn't meant to be taken as romantic. The ending was meant to be ambiguous. I do agree that the ending could have been handled a bit better though.
I still don't get people blaming shinji for third impact. He had absolutely no idea what his actions would cause. He was just trying to save someone he cared about.
I could see why the general public at large blames him, but the movies both 3.0 and 3.0+1.0 throw out implications that he wasn't even the one to finish it. It was the angel that got inside Mk.06 and fused with Lilith. 3.0 shows the literal aftermath in Central Dogma and 3.0+1.0 has the scene where Kaji is the one that goes to stop it which we only get the glimpse of.
An ending where he sacrifices himself would have been badass though.
It's a metaphor... If trying to save someone will result in the absolute destruction of your world then your wish to save them(although well intended) is self destructive, finally realizing that is part of the road to maturity for shinji . Plus, rei represents anime girls (passive and always ready for you to project what you want them to be)
"He had absolutely no idea what his actions would cause. He was just trying to save someone he cared about"
Buddy, I'm sorry to say this, but the ends don't justify the means, it doesn't matter if he intended in it or not, it happened, he was there, and he was the catalyst
@@L1z43vr "the ends don't justify the means" doesn't even apply here? That's a phrase that's used to describe people trying to achieve a "good" goal through intentionally unjustified actions. Blaming Shinji for this is tantamount to blaming someone for stealing from an atm while a gun is held to their head. He was forced and manipulated into the situation in the first place, Gendo is entirely to blame. I could see that excuse being used to describe Eva Shinji, because he was far more aware of what was going on around him amd chose instrumentality. Rebuild shinji was still a puppet when he was used to jumpstart instrumentality. There's a reason that theres a huge distinction between murder and manslaughter but your logic basically makes them one and the same.
I'm just happy for Hideaki Anno that the series finally has a definitive conclusion, and he can move on to other projects. The man's working on Ultraman and Kamen Rider now, and he seems happier and in better health now than he's ever been.
I just cannot wait enough for Shin Kamen Rider!
B-but End of Eva was a definitive conclusion enough, at least for me.
I could not have agreed more
Ah Ultraman my childhood power ranger sorta show, damn good memories
Shin Ultraman and Shin Kamen Rider are gonna be some interesting films
You know it’s serious when Jobby takes his sunglasses off
And you know it's serious when jobby actually being serious in his video lol
I teared up at the credits when realising that the series i have been enjoying since the 90s is over now. I have been lucky to meet spike spencer at a convention a few years ago.
Lmao calm down zoomers, eva gets a final every ten years, dont be cringe.
No need to be rude. The guy was only expressing his own emotions towards the franchise and its ending
@@pnx505 lol just stfu honestly
I was actualy the same. The horrible secondary thought was "I never loved these movies...but....this is also one of the few mecha anime going on on the last 10 year's and it's over let alone one I like." That was also an awful thought.
Eva ended in 97, man. Rebuild is another thing entirely, another continuity. And as Rebuild came to be, we can very well have other versions of this same story. In other words, Evangelion didn't end now because it had already ended a long time ago, what ended now is Rebuild (thankfully imo).
Seeing Gendo finally hug his son made the whole film worth it.
He's the most selfish, callous piece of shit in all of anime as far as I'm concerned, but Shinji was basically crying out for his father's approval the whole bloody series. it wouldn't have killed Gendo to give it to him.
The movie felt like therapy session for the both of them, and it felt like something they both needed. Gendo knew he was selfish, but talking to Shinji him realize how wrong he was. Depression does lead to self-destructive behavior and he was an introvert his whole life. When your life comes crashing down after someone you love dies, it makes it hard for you to open to people again.
Yo when Gendo goes "Oh, that's where you were this whole time" I broke. Dude was literally willing to kill god to see his love again and then it finally clicked at the end that she was there the whole time, in his son. Such sweet painful amazingly loving story telling.
In reality, Gendo was let off way too easy. If he existed in real life he would have been worse than hitler.
I think Yui should have just came back and slapped Ghendo for bring so horrible
Nope.
Personally I think the endings were great - Anno has literally been telling people since End of Eva "STOP HYPERFOCUSSING ON MY DEPRESSION ART" and now he's like "Guys i'm seriously not depressed anymore - this is how i'm feeling. I got a happy ending"
Plus a lot of these people consider EoE the original ending, while it was more of a response to people complaining about the original series ending, which has an ambiguous but optimistic tone
@@antolod Bruh you're preaching persistent urban legend. EoE was what series original ending was supposed to but due to development issues (TV Tokyo rejecting the increasing violence, budget running out, both, or one because of the other) that didn't come and instead episodes 25 and 26 became what they are. After series enormous success, Anno got basically blank cheque to make a EoE, or rather he got a shot to actually finish properly, rather than improvise which what last two episodes were.
@@antolodEoE was not a response to fans. this is proven because the EoE ending was supposed to be the shows ending, but then got changed so theres an ending based on the message and an ending based on reality.
It's the sudden turn around shinji does he goes from being at a near nervous breakdown curled up in the corner to having a talk with rei and then he's finally got his act together got a plan and knows how to handle things all of his doubts and insecurities are under control.
@@antolodit was the original ending. The rebuilds completely retell the story from a point that had already been told in the original.
Jobby: "Anyone is open to critique, even me."
Me: "I do (NOT NOT NOT) think you suck."
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Basically the movie boils down to Hideaki Anno saying his wife is epic
Deserves more likes
It does not
Which is kinda depressing. Imagine if she cheated on him... Another eva franchise born.
@@calibula95 the never ending cycle
someone gets it
"I love Evangelion, But I don't love this movie." Has the same power as "I love Transformers, But I don't love this movie."
Well done, Jobby
not really, you can love the show and EoE but not like rebuild.
Read the manga has a way better ending that ends the stupid ship war amicably and fairly.
If you don't think Optimus screaming I'LL KILL YOU ALL in AoE was the funniest shit, get out of here.
To be clear, I don't hate the movies. I'm just saying.. and yes, I like that Optimus prime's Line. Funniest thing ever
@@Coruptin i think no one ever take Optimus as comedic in a fight scene ever until you
Shinji in the original made more sense to me. People hate on him for being a wuss and not doing things but like... hes a kid... going through some insanely traumatic things. While coming from a very dysfunctional family. Him being a complete broken mess made sense and the world just kept punishing him for things that weren't his fault. Rebirth Shinji has a kill count higher than anyone will ever achieve.
The "because you suffer, you deserve a happy ending" line hit too hard man. You're SPOT ON with that observation
It's false, though.
@@zer0bre No it isn't. People feel like they are owed good things in this world too often, that BECAUSE bad things happen, they suffer or it doesn't work out that they are deserving regardless. To a degree they are right. And it turns them into toxic people who demand that from others instead of working towards it. There are exceptions to every rule, but a deserving person earns a happy life, it's never handed to them. The discipline of responsibility, taking care of yourself and others leads to that road, not the overbearing entitlement to happiness.
@@neonthehedgehog12 you don’t earn happiness
@@neonthehedgehog12Nah that's literally a toxic mindset
The reason CG Rei exists is that with additional impact's beginning Gendo was combining reality and imaginary, I think CG rei was that taken in a literal sense, combining our reality with Evangelion.
I took it as the imaginary axis, as in the Z axis on a 2D plane... Meaning it becomes 3D.
Kind of a bad pun but okay.
its Rei on RTX mode on
The way I saw it was that, in the way that anime is the stuff of our imaginations, perhaps our reality is the stuff of their imaginations?
whos gonna tell him cgi isn't real
@@scarlet7960 it’s in a figurative sense not a literal sense of being real
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Jobby this calm/serious before. Really shows me how much love he actually has for this franchise.
I do love the development of Shinji n this movie. He started as a depressed boy and never want to pilot an Eva because he gts people hurt and literally ends the world two times. But in this movie, he learned to move on from his mistakes and letting go of the traumatic past he has. I like when Shinji is no longer afraid to pilot an Eva in this movie after so many things he has already seen, and I am very glad that he can finally have a rest and can be happy after all the Eva Curse he went through, I now I am a sucker for a Happy Ending but still, I am glad Anno finally ended his amazing series. Oh yes, Mari is also said tthat she was portrayed as Anno's wife, a woman with no psychological issues and has a good mental, kind of like Yui to Gendo, comes into Shinji's life which said to portray Anno meeting his wife.
Ooh, what if this movie isn't actually about Shinji, but about Anno himself finding happiness in life? X'D
@@alfianfawzi2064 that would be evangelion as a whole
Imagine trying to explain this series to someone 🤣
Aww... that's actually kinda sweet. Happy for Anno.
Yeah, I always assumed after Mari's first appearance that while Shinji, Asuka, and Rei are all aspects of Anno himself, Mari is supposed to be his wife- a part of him too, but more separate and unique.
I think my biggest problem with the action scenes is just how large scale they were. I hate the idea of swarms of millions of evas it just makes no sense and makes them feel so much smaller. I was way more engrossed watching Asuka fight 10 or so Evas than I did watching her blow through thousands of them who never felt like a threat.
The escalation was so out of control it was just bizarre. And they managed to make the battles laughable.
Asuka and Mari just seemd to banter as the wiped out millions of them. It had no intensity or sense of stakes it just came off ridiculous
@@leonevelake yeah the fact that NERV seems to be able to just conjure these Evas out of nothing always rubbed me the wrong way. How do they construct these things?? In the original series where there were only ever 3 evas, it was a huge deal to see a new one, and mind blowing when there were 13 in one place. When there’s just thousands of them it doesn’t feel like it matters.
Asuka fighting 10 Evas is like Ip Man fighting 10 Japanese black belts
@@leonevelake thats the real big problem: theres no sense of scaling. even in 3.0, which went a little more OTT, each individual enemy felt like a threat in its own right. here all of a sudden weve just got 100s being wiped out like its nothing.
@a human being from the earth
Yeah I'm not sure how they made that jump story telling wise
Something I thought was weird is how everyone seemed to hate Shinji in 3.33 for almost destroying the world which resulted in him leaving with the Rei clone and almost causing the Fourth Impact, but in this movie most of them are like "yeah but he didn't know it would happen" and then it turns out that the reason the world is so screwed up is because of Eva Mark 06 and Lilith almost causing the Third Impact again. So did everyone get mad at Shinji for something he didn't even do and for something that he didn't think would happen? Hell, Misato was even cheering Shinji on when he went full god mode but it wasn't acknowledged until this movie?
Also Angel Unit 02 looked so awesome and I need figures of it NOW.
This is the absolute huge reason I absolutely hated 3.0. 3.0+1.0 was an improvement just because it wasn’t 3.
Man... No one who's been around shinji really hates him... Misato has to stay strong and juste make her work of captain. That's why she put a fucking explosive collar around his neck ( otherwise it would a riot because they don't really know shinji juste take him for a dangereous irresponsible and don't make him trust. Asuka don't hate shinji, rei too. i'ts that for every people really know shinji ( classroom friends for example ).
Sorry if what i said is not correct, i'm not english lol
@@eyywannn8601 read my comment please
@@matsonlouco2883 It still doesn’t excuse literally not explaining anything after he woke up.
Shinji fucked up and his actions definitely contributed to the impact which killed so many people, but he didn't deserve the hate that was thrown his way. People were basically throwing him under the bus to cope. At the same time Katsuragi sort of understands this, it's why she couldn't bring herself to kill him and why she sticks by his side in the end
In my opinion, it's really Anno showing how it pulled his way out of the dark pit he was in after End of Eva and these Rebuild movies was him showing how he is evolving as a person and now he's a Director and Produce on multiple Shin films and seems very happy
I totally saw this too
Not gonna i appreciate the dude as a film maker than just eva creator
Anno is a hack
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That’s bait. 😬
The director is happy therefore good movie? LOL
Another excuse for Jobby to flex his Eva merch.
God knows he has too many of them..
I personally feel the happy ending, especially for Shinji, was earned. Buy only when you take into account the fact that it’s the culmination of the entire franchise. Kaworu and his scenes with Shinji at the end makes it pretty clear that the time loop theory is true, so really Shinji earning his happy ending here can he seen as the final destination after all his journeys from the original show up to this point. At least, that’s how I viewed it. Art is subjective as they say.
i agree
"art is subjective" is a complete copout for shitty writing.
by that same logic I could just draw a squiggle on a piece of paper and be hailed as a masterpiece artist because "hurr well art is subjective, someone must think its great, so it is!!!!"
maybe next movie Shinji should be a transvestite hooker in detroit because "well art is subjective, someone will like it"
@@Sneedmeister Nah there's a fine line between not putting effort into it at all and actual effort. Abstract artists put time and their creativity into their work, even if not everyone would like it, hence the word subjective
i like your avatar! hehe!
@@hairglowingkyle4572 I don't think subjective can be an appropiate word for describe art, more like art has a vision and a purpose, the subjective thing might be the likes of people when liking the art and their interpretations of it, but the art itself is a little odd to be the one that is subjective, abstract in its own is a word that describes art, abstract doesn't mean it's subjective nor objective, but something more complex that can't be measure witn simples levels, the only thing that is clear is that art has a vision to share or has a purpouse for existing depending on the type of art and the objective behind the artists.
I think there is nothing such as bad art, but more like, what exists are bad artists, because there's people that don't put effort in what they do and make people believe it's art, thus if the artist doesn't even know what he did, his art is bad in a way, because the art is complimented with the artist
From what I could tell (and have heard) Mari was supposed to stand-in as Anno's wife, who basically came out of nowhere and brought a lot of happiness in his life. Her hamfistedly starting a new life with Shinji works on a meta-textual level in this regard but it doesn't lend well to a standalone narrative since it's heavily reliant on the pop cultural understanding of the series as a whole.
i see her as an observer/guide or something close to that
Yeah but the problem is that it just doesn't work at all. It just looks like she's a background character that for some reason became Shinji's glup shitto girlfriend to emphasize that he's not an incel anymore idfk
The whole reason Mari is there is to serve as the one character that's not been broken by trauma and turned into an anti-social mess - she's the one person that has her life together, and all of the other characters get to lean on her as a support figure, and through her, they slowly learn how to take back control of their lives and use that in their interactions with each other. I'm not saying she's the sole reason for character development, but she certainly plays a big role, because of how she lifts up those around her.
ITs why i REALLY think she should have been... not human, persay? She becomes a living catalyst for all of these changes to the timeline, the break.
@@taddad2641 I think that would've taken a lot away from the message. Mari is human, she is just like us, but she is also so much more because she's there to support us and let us move on from our traumas. If she wasn't human, that'd have sent the message that traumas aren't able to be solved by humans
I just don't like it that I didn't even know her or care about her before the movie or that there was hardly any interaction between the main characters and mari or not enough i should say
yes regular people hit on the first 14 year old kid they see
To put it in one phrase, Mari is the impact character. (No pun intended)
Typically, main characters change themselves, either positively and align with the rest of the storyworld, or negatively and further divorce themselves from it. What about the characters who have already made the positive change? These characters have corrected enough flaws within themselves (or never had any relevant flaws to begin with) to gain the power to positively change the flawed world around them by teaching what they have learnt; They create an IMPACT on the surrounding world through their flat arc.
For example, Hogarth from The Iron Giant is like if the impact character had the leading role, Hogarth is heavily tested by the flawed world around him but never caves in throughout the story; He makes the world around him a better place by teaching the people he knows not to fear the unknown (Symbolised by the giant and the cold war setting).
The series ended..
When Shinji finally got in the robot...on his own. He even dreased up in front of everybody for the occassion.😁
I kinda thought the movie's theme was accepting those around you and that you'll enjoy life as you allow it into yours.
Kinda like how Gendo sealed off the world so once his wife passed away, he had no one. To the point he felt he would of been a horrible father to Shinji, but in the end, regretted his actions.
Or how best girl wanted to stand strong all by herself however she still wanted affection and praise from others since her mom passed away.
While Rei, just was Rei. Since the beginning she was a lifeless doll learning to enjoy life in her short life.
However Evangelion is a symbolic acid trip that may require another view to understand. Hell the first time I watched the series I only thought it was robots vs aliens. What the hell is this metaphor shit doing in my anime!?
I think I'm fine with this ending, the rebuild ver is intirely something else in my eyes, we already got end of eva and the rebuild is something extra with a amazing farewell message
For someone who actually struggled and still isn't out of depression, this was the ending I think I was the most happy with. I see your "it was too optimistic" point of view, but, to me, I believe it was what I needed. I've always seen hope in Eva, that's why episode 25 and 26 are still my fav ending, even EoE still has some, so I think seeing it, the story of characters I so deeply empathetize with, the happy ending really gave me just another push towards completely healing. Seeing Anno being in such a better place now made me believe I can get out too.
Yes, we all suffer, yes we don't all get happiness even after suffering, but I need to believe I will eventually or I have nothing left to keep me here.
This was the ending I think the people who really deeply resonated with Eva needed, more than the one that reflects our vision of the world (which is one of self blame, self hatred and the belief we deserve the pain we are going through since we see ourselves as worthless). It is what we need to believe to save ourselves. Hope to heal and grow up.
Me too. And I am happy for Shinji no matter what the secondary characters says
I feel like you can have "Happy" endings while still establishing immense loss and suffering. I've always been an advocate for the survival but at what cost in reference to characters. They can have a "Happy" ending but to act like everything is totally fine completely shrugs off the weight of previous sacrifices and character development. I'm a huge star wars fan and people are realizing how depressing the overall story is as more and more material is coming out showing tragedy after tragedy until Return of The Jedi where victory is FINALLY earned and you feel the full weight of it knowing what it took to get there. I just feel like the story didn't have a moment which would be the equivalent of Luke watching his father's body burn as the world celebrates around him because that's HIS loss and his character development. Without that scene it would kinda just feel like "Hehe my dad's dead, I'm gonna go have a party with teddy bears."
at least hideaki anno's mental health is better now since he finished evangelion
@@crusty_ no one force him to do rebuild he could just move on with his life if he wanted to.
@@fauzanabdulkahfi957 2 years late
thats.. why he did Rebuild(and especially 3.0+1.0).. to finish that chapter of his life
Eva was, and always will be, a therapy session for Anno. Thats why 3.0+1.0 took so long, between production delays, other troubles, and just the immense pressure, anno wasnt even able to go to his studio more then a few days a month and fell back into his depression.
But thast also why 3.0+1.0 is so much more directly positive in its ending then 25+26 or EoE. Because he finally managed to work trough it all, he is happy now(and as iirc the VA of Asuka said "he became an adult") he grew up,he dosnt need Eva anymore, his therapy is done, and his wife(which is why marie exists) was the catalyst.
While the TF movie reviews were really funny and I enjoyed their overall tone, this video blows them out of the water.
It's clear how much of an Eva fan you are and I found your criticisms perfectly valid and well formed. This is a prime example of why making something out of your comfort zone because of passion is a great thing, I personally didn't care too much about this review once you tweeted about it, but now that I've seen it, I'd love it if you made more!
Describing some of the action scenes in the Rebuilds as Michael Bay schlock is too accurate
Not really
I liked the movie a lot, but the second act was easily the worst part. Just dumb, pointless and completely unmemorable action with little purpose or redeeming qualities.
While I generally don’t mind CG in anime, I think it encourages scenes like this, where creators will go over the top just because they CAN without thinking about whether or not it’s actually beneficial to the movie. It’s really telling that the ONLY defense I’ve seen anyone be able to give for the second act is “b-b-but it looks really epic in a theatre!” which is pretty much just admitting that it’s a braindead Hollywood CGI fest.
@@sssspider well it fits since Eva is braindead anyway
@@557deadpool This take is braindead, like Rebuilds.
@@557deadpool yes really.
BIGGER AND MORE FLASHY doesn't make a good action scene. just looking at the original series compared to the rebuilds you can see where they really tried to push as much "dazzle" as they could into the fight scenes in the rebuilds, whereas the series had much cleaner clear-to-read fight scenes.
in the rebuilds you just get wave after wave of intense particle effects and glowyness and vibrant colors, it makes my brain just tune-out because of visual overload. i don't need to be dazzled with 10,000 different SFX to enjoy something.
While I really enjoyed the happy ending to the film, and the rebuild series as a whole, I understand that it’s possibly because I’m in a bad time in my life, and so getting a happy ending instead of a soul crushing one or bittersweet one, helps me feel like I’ll also get out of this rough time. I did appreciate Jobbys take on the film though.
What you said is true. But somehow, even when I notice all the things that you've pointed out, I'm still satisfied with the ending. Maybe because I like to see Shinji smile
And realising he's not the only one guilty to the mistakes of the past. So he doesn't have to carry the burden (represented in the Dss choker) of not only his sins, but the world's sins.
I personally hate Marie it felt like she was just placed there plus the rebuild had a lot of fan service scenes I personally hated them but over all I rate the movie 2/10 I don’t hate the movie I just dislike it this movie just doesn’t sit right with me so
I don’t count the movie cannon to me it’s not good nor bad it’s solid but still 2/10 to me it’s just my opinion
I think my problem with Mari is how she was incorporated into the series due to her being a self insert for Anno's wife (she helped Anno battle his depression). She really only feels like a self insert character instead of someone with motivations and issues related to the story or Rebuild
I didn't knew anything about this, but God that explains a lot. I haven't watched the whole rebuild movies yet, but just looking at Mari she feels painfully like a self insert...
This is not true and people need to stop saying this.
Kinda of true, watch the documentary
Basically it's a self reflection of Anno.
If Anno focus on Shinji on the village while Mari explained what is Evangelion to him and make both character build a relation during this time will make the ending scene much better and can elaborate more on how the new key can be made not just a mere deus ex by Anno.
@@woopet1 it’s pretty true
I really enjoyed this movie, but I definitely agree about Mari. I love her character concept wherein a cast of screwed-up people who pilot giant robots because of personal issues, Mari just does it for fun. That's a great contrast from the OG trio and could make for a very interesting character, but I felt Mari's interactions with the cast said more about those around her than they did about Mari herself. Like for the last scene in the movie, Shinji's relationship with Mari more shows Shinji is able to find happiness free of any of the emotional baggage he had with the familiar cast rather than anything about Mari's character.
Mari is absolutely the most clunkily executed part of the Rebuilds. I’m fine with her concept and I didn’t hate her in this movie, nor do I really hate the ending, but she really just needed more character development and at least SOME additional interaction with Shinji beyond mashing her boobs in his face that one time. 2.0 was supposed to have some additional Mari + Shinji scenes that got cut due to runtime, and I think that defintirly hurts her believability and investment as a character.
The common take of Mari as a stand in for Anno's wife I find to be incredibly reductive. I wasn't really a fan of her inclusion in the prior rebuilds at first but after seeing her in this movie I prefer it retroactively as to have her not just dumped into this film, where she plays a great role.
For me Mari works on two levels, within the narrative of the film Mari is the one who takes Shinji from the beach he ends up on after he performs "neon genesis." This part where the shot deconstructs into it's base components (storyboard, stills) to me is metaphorical of Shinji forgetting the events that made him Shinji because he has destroyed the world with evangelions, and Shinji's development is based around evangelion! (Shinji suffers because of Yui's plan to become god, and spends a large amount of time in the rebuild and original inside Evangelion/Unit-01/Yui). Mari, as the only living member of that original research team, saves Shinji by reminding him that those memories and experiences still exist in his memory and are important, and that he cannot just "move on" but also must, as he did at the beginning of the film, reflect and learn from them. This is why Mari can interact with and holds onto the DSS choker at the end, because she is Shinji's link back to those experiences.
Outside of the narrative. I interpret Mari as a more generous look at the modern "otaku" that celebrates a healthy enjoyment of evangelion/anime. I come to this conclusion based on two core parts of Mari's style of speech. Her use of phrases in various languages (english, french, etc.) is emblematic of a connection with the broader world (people of more niche/nerdish/introverted interests brought together by a base level of anonymity on the internet + over cultural/language borders) and secondly her use of pet names to refer to the other evangelion pilots (puppy boy, your highness.) This to me is representative of "fanon" versions of characters who embody one or more comedic traits of a character which are typically caricatured for the sake of comedy/simple character explanation and analysis. The only place Mari can really interact with the narrative effectively (helping Shinji, the core of evangelion since NGE) is in the imaginary dimension, where the barriers between fiction (evangelion) and reality (reality) are weakest, in the opening scene her evangelion lacks arms! (Couldn't be more obvious, no hands = no meaningful connections can be made *and* no action can be taken. There's also something to be said about her "consuming" the other evangelions (healthy consumption of media?) but I might need to rewatch before I'm concluded on that. The reason Mari here can interact with the DSS choker is because it's representative of what *she* - the consumer takes from evangelion. Anno doesn't criticize Mari the same way he previously criticized otaku because Mari both has a healthy relationship with the media she consumes (healthiest, happiest romantic option for Shinji) but also because she is social and has friends (modern internet culture allows for the creation of meaningful bonds through shared introverted interests, giving people the power to face reality and improve as people).
I think the comment you about Mari's moments being more about other characters than Mari works a lot better when you either look at the second interpretation, where she's very much seperate from the rest of the cast, or when you view her as more of a symbol than a character. But it's a very apt criticism nonetheless. Mari has been in a standout in my post-viewing thoughts/analysis so I'm a lot more fond of her, plus I found her very entertaining when her ero fanservice wasn't being shoved down my throat
@@dez4668 Mari being a sudden relationship worked for me because in life relationships are just as sudden. she was always interested in shinji but he needed to grow to finally see it. this ending felt more of an ending for all of shinji rather than just shinji seen in rebuild on a meta level.
For me personally the pros far outweigh the cons
So, the 7.5 jobby rated it at makes sense, then..?
@@maxque2841 if I were to give it an “objective” rating based on how competently executed I think different aspects of the movie were, I’d also give it a 7.5/10. It’s hard to justify anything higher when it’s just so heavily flawed in many aspects. It’s kind of hard with this movie because it’s highs are really high but it’s lows are also really low, so it’s hard to give a score that accurately reflects the entire movie. If I were to break it down, I’d give Act 1 a solid 10/10, Act 2 a 5/10 and the ending an 8/10, which ends up averaging to around 7.5 anyways. But everyone’s personal score is gonna depend on whether or not they thought the good outweighed the bad.
Really the second act drags this movie down so much. If the action wasn’t such dumb Hollywood nonsense it would be an easy 9/10 movie for me. But I can’t NOT compare this CGI bullshit to Asuka vs. the MPE’s, possibly one of the best animated fight scenes of all time.
you say that as an Eva-fan though.
if you had NEVER heard of this series before, and never had the DECADES of emotional-investment in the series, you'd probably think a lot differently.
for someone just engaging with this IP for the first time with the rebuild series, they would probably dislike the disconnected aspect of the storytelling. eva likes to do things that only fans of the series would understand and appreciate.
The main message that I got out of 3+1 was acceptance. Gendo finally accepted that Yui is gone, and that he was a horrible father. Misato accepted her failings as a mother and chose self-sacrifice. Asuka accepted that she did have feelings for Shinji at one point, and moved on from him (and presumably formed some kind of relationship with Kensuke). Rei (or at the very least Sokkuri-san) accepted humanity and individuality. Shinji matured enough to realize that the ideal he was striving for with each iteration of the time loop was fictional and unattainable, and accepted reality. Mari accepted Shinji for who he is and took the burden of his guilt from him (symbolized by the choker).
Overall the rebuilds would have probably been better executed as a full series rather than just a quadrilogy of movies, but taken in the context that the rebuilds are the final iteration of the time loop, I feel it shows a shift in world-view that Anno has had between the original series and the rebuilds. Instead of focusing solely on life's suffering, accepting life for what it is and reaching out to others to make our burdens light.
amen brother🗿🤝🗿
Gendo accepts Yui's death.
Also Gendo: commites self-deletion because she was about to sacrifice herself for the happiness of her son
I think none of these movies stand very well on their own. I see them as more of a sequel since this is just another timeline. They're incomplete without what stood before them. With that in mind, I think it makes a little more sense that Shinji's character development isn't as fleshed out. These movies aren't really about Shinji's character as much as they are about everything else. We know Shinji from the original series but these movies dive into everyone else. I love these movies so maybe I'm just trying to justify my taste
i agree with that about the character development from the original series to the rebuilds. Considering all the events that happened are part of the book of life and keep on replaying in time, with each different iteration having different results. Shinji finally found a way to end the cycle.
I love the Rebuilds too, but like you said I don't think I could possibly recommend watching them without watching the original series (including EoE, of course) first. I'm not sure if I would appreciate these movies as much as I do if I hadn't seen the original series first.
@@DecafUnknown That is an excellent idea and it's the one that I will stick with.
I'm glad evangelion is over, goodbye evangelion , hello shin Ultraman and shin Kamen rider
Watch them be reskins of shin Godzilla
I hope Anno doesn’t abandon anime. But I’m glad he is happy being a Tokusatsu producer.
@@kanohihorder1228 nah,Anno is a toku fan,he will not do that,he knows the difference between those properties
Anno is too powerful. He made Evangelion, which is Star Wars big in Japan. He made the best Godzilla movie ever (imo). And he’s working on Ultraman and Kamen Rider. Its like how JJ Abrams made the new Star Wars and Star Trek except nothing like that cause Anno isn’t a hack.
@@Archyoda7 yeah,but Gundam is Japan's star wars not eva
i think the biggest issue with the rebuilds is that fact that anno sacrificed a coherent narrative for metacommentary. When you view it with the understanding of who anno is, and his perspective on the series, the movies are alot more enjoyable and make more sense, but when you try to watch the movies as their own stand alone story it becomes apparent how much of a mess the whole thing really is. NGE suffered from this too but to a much lesser extent
NGE suffered less, because there was literally more time spent on making it cohesive.
The Rebuild series, as Jobby points out, suffers from Michael Bay syndrome. As much as the ending of the original series was weird due to budget constraints, that weirdness allowed Anno to be creative with how he wanted to convey his message. But because the Rebuild series has so much money behind it and no one actually telling Anno no, it became a problem with just visual bloat. Like, even if you compare the earlier Rebuild movies to this one, you can see that less is more. You can have mass consequences and grand scale, without visual clutter trying to do everything.
@@ArcDragoon Just a small correction, the original ending was not the way it was because of budget constraints. There's no reputable source to actually say that. It's possible there were time constraints because of the terrorist attack in japan during the production which made the staff have to redo an episode because of similar subject matter, and so may have hampered the rest of the production. However, the original ending was most probably a combination of artistic choice, Anno rewrites, and knowing that EOE was probably gonna happen anyway, since the original storyboards for episodes 25 and 26 were basically EOE.
@@zero-pl3tt
I assume that every anime has budget constraints. Unless they're from UFOTABLE, where we only recently discovered the tax evasion; at which point a lot makes sense.
@@ArcDragoon I mean sure, but people talk about the ending of nge like there was almost no money by the end, which is an unfounded rumour. There probably were some problems with the budget, but like you said, it would've been on the same level as every anime's budget problems.
The Rebuilds seem to follow poetry rules. If you don't know the context in which they exist and the author's biography, you're going to enjoy them much, much less.
“I love Evangelion…. but I don’t love this movie.”
Same here man…. *same here*
Evangelion always be like that if you think about it.
Not liking the ending seem to be a trope at this point
@@Atom85825 it's either people hate it or love it or straight up confused about it. That's evangelion in nutshell. Which makes the franchise enjoyable with all the (non toxic) debates and interpretation.
@@spadesjester9996 true, in fact that actually sparked my interest to watch eva in the first place, it was all over the anime-superhero magazine in my country back then as posters or stickers and when people said the ending is either confusing, truly hated or truly loved, mostly not in between, and im even more interested from that exchanges
@@Atom85825 Nah the movie is shit
When I first watched 3.0 + 1.0, I was very glad that everyone got their happy endings and how it ended on a really optimistic note. However, upon thinking about it, the ending does feel kind of rushed and they don't exactly deserve to have the ending (at least, not completely). They weren't being too sour, they were just bringing up a great point.
You know so glad Ive watched this review, i finished the movie feeling really unsatisfied, and not massive fan and not really knowing why , to then go online and see everyone loving it, and i felt like i was just the 1% that didn't like it, and it's nice to see other people say things about the film to make me go" yess I agree" and to make my views feel slightly more valid
you're not alone
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Honestly, Jobby, I completely agree with you on this. When I finished watching it I honestly didn’t like how it ended, and I still don’t know how I feel about Shinji just being with Mari even though their relationship was barely even explored in the rebuild movies. I dunno maybe all the time I put into watching Evangelion made me more bitter and cynical than I should be lmao.
They clearly didn't added a new waifu just for the memes and merchandise... As soon as I learned about her, I had the feeling it would probably end with Shinji one way or another. The 'how' they managed this however, is another story
Edit: BTW, I still don't understand why teasing the Kaworu x Shinji so much the entire series just to chicken-ed it in the end... Oh wait, yeah, the waifu wars... 😑
Always found it weird how the village took up so much of the movie and then essentially tosses it aside by the end. I get what they went for but they couldve easily have them end in the village but hey that's just me.
I guess the EOE is the realization
And rebuilds is moving on and positivity.
glad i'm not alone in feeling & thinking like this
- from Indonesia -
The first Eva Rebuild in my opinion is the best, the recreation of Ramiel, mwah!
I thought this review was going to be full on memes, but damn...
This was an insightful review. Good job man.
(Credits in Eva)
Executive producer Michael Bay
I cant get over the fact that shinji dumped a girl that actually loved him for some old ass woman that came from the future
In my school vr game, Goalius was told by Davoth to eliminate Shinji, and the boss fight against Shinji in Eva 1 was armageddic where this fight ended with Goalius stabbed twice by the lances and went through the pain and then killed shinji but causing 5th impact which destroyed the rebuild timeline (Goalius was saved by Geras after the credits of the Eva characters)
Honestly I would totally watch more reviews in this style. Not all the time, but having a periodic break for a serious, deep talk about a movie that’s clearly close to your heart is a nice break from the normal manic Jobby we all love. Please bring this style back every so often.
To be completely honest, I kinda wanna see these movie reviews more. They're easier to make for you, and you can pump them out faster than your toy reviews. That, and I enjoy hearing your opinions on stuff that isn't a plastic figure. I like those to, the memes are outstanding on those, but still.
I liked the reconciliation between Gendo and Shinji, probably the best part of the movie for me. But I have similar issues with this movie. It's so weird because Neon Genesis Evangelion and EoE was about the dangers of running away from your problems by using escapism yet what this movie says is that it's okay that these characters get to run away from their very real to them problems if it's them running away into our world. Which is weird because EoE made a point by using real life footage which is sorta the same thing as Shinji running away with Mari at the end of 3.0 + 1.0 but not really. The real life footage in EoE was meant to teach Shinji that escaping to a world much bigger than his which would have its own problems but without some of his problems would ring just as hollow as escaping to one where he's a regular school boy. This fit the story and the characters a lot better than erasing Eva from existence and all of their own problems making the lesson of the dangers of getting lost in escapism so muddled. Because it could very easily be interpreted as "It's okay to escape from your problems using entertainment if its handling is in real life.". This feels more like a closing of Hideaki's younger self issues than the characters' own but just because you're happy about your wife does not mean that Shinji who's barely met this woman would also like your wife. If they'd thought about Mari's character earlier, not have her parachute down from out of nowhere, and given her some more development then maybe it would've been way better. But I think that EoE did the message of NGE way better but an End of Evangelion that I'd like would be just to somehow add the Gendo reconciliation with Shinji into EoE but it's not like it's necessary since it's shows that not all relationships get to have an epic climax maybe a simple "Sorry, Shinji." is the best you'll get, even if you don't get to hear it.
No one "ran away" in 3.0+1.0 though. Shinji was going to sacrifice himself after all, so the fact that he was saved, where he ended up and with who in the end wasn't his choice. Also, he didn't end up with Mari in the end, nor is there any connection between her and Anno's wife.
@@christ.4658 Sure. He did wish for a universe were Evangelion doesn't exist, the source of all of their problems, and dying is for some people a way to run away.
@@Victor-um9ce Shinji's death here is a self - sacrifice, not a suicide. It's not framed as such in any way nor does it display any of its characteristics.
Also, the source of all their problems is not Eva at all, and Shinji could theoretically had just cancelled Additional Impact, return to Earth, and continue cleansing the world like WILLE is shown doing area by area using the Pillars. And, just to note, that Shinji didn't literally wish for a "new" universe, he just wishes so that all Evas would vanish from that point onwards from his existing universe.
Jobby:"I love Evangelion,it helps me during some dark times"
Me:"I love Evangelion,it makes my dark time"
5:58 this is the exact thing i was thinking and feel so confuse and weird THE WHOLE ENDING of 3.0+1.0 is just weird ....
As a wise man once said "life is hard, but it doesn't have to be hell," I will take that quote to my grave, you know jobby, whenever I was feeling sad or... suicidal... I would always watch your videos to keep me from leaving my family behind, you kept me from trying to end it many times, and I just want to say thank you, you are appreciated, and that was my birthday half an hour ago, as of me typing this, but I'm not asking to to tell me a happy birthday, I just want you to keep being yourself, because it makes me overall a better person
Yeah a real "ending"to the franchise, it felt more like someone shot it in the head and left the body to rot,forgoten and unloved,then an actual respectful farewell.
A year later and somehow I missed this review, wtf?. But I agree with your sentiments. It's weird how simple scenes like when unit 01 rips out of a Angel are more memorable then the entire new movie fight scenes. There's something to feeling and weight behind a scene rather then quantity.
I saw it but the title really made me hesitate and I wanted time to make my own opinion before I partially unintentionally copied another person’s review or it’d cause me to change my own but I’m glad me and Jobby ended up with a somewhat similar opinion about the fan service being too much, Mari not being built up enough, ending feeling rushed + unsatisfying, and the end fights having too much going on
The Rebuilds have many memorable fight scenes though, and weight is conveyed well in almost all of them.
The CG parts that fell apart remind me of what Miyazaki said about the difference between CG & handwritten animation. I think Anno is a better old school animation director than new school
I agree jobby. I enjoyed parts of this movie but overall I didn't feel satisfied by any means after watching this compared to the previous films. The cgi for the eva 01 vs eva 13 was pretty bad though
6:50 mannequins walking to their 9-5 at target
Tbh your cons were very valid because I agree with most of them. Even though the movie has flaws it was still worth the wait. I liked how they portrayed the shinji vs gendo fight in the movie
this is actually a really good review of the Rebuild. Thank you.
I personally liked that the rest of the cast got their respective closures...
as much as it was nice that Anno actually moves on; Thrice upon a time is indeed a little too 'feel good' towards Shinji
I felt sorry for poor Shinji, when he makes mistakes that let's be honest they weren't just his fault, the people who are supposedly afraid of him are the ones who made things worse.
I think the point " because you suffer,you deserve a happy ending" is not what movie was trying to potray , the movie was trying to potray a shinji who had grown up and because of his growth,he is able to make the ends meet, its not about entitlement of good things happening to you because you suffered, its rather you are willing to change and take responsibility that the things around you change, and i liked that message of that movie
How do you feel about Mari just straight up swiping Shinji away from Asuka? I honestly felt blindsided by that because there was not one piece of character development that showed that the two were into eachother. They just sorta, be around eachother. Mari is always flirting with both Asuka and Shinji, but mostly Asuka. Like if the movie ended with Mari getting with Asuka, that would be satisfying because it worked. There were parts of the movie that clearly showed Mari having a liking toward Asuka. Maybe its just me-
That is really my main gripe with the movie. I’m not a shipper or anything like that but I really thought that Asuka and Shinji just complement each other really well. Throughout the movie, you can see that Asuka really does care for Shinji (her checking on him in the village and her seeing him in the glass prison) and I do believe that Shinji still liked Asuka but he just needed to grow and mature a little. I think Rei was done really well by helping him overcome what happened to Kaworu and her death really made Shinji grow. I was so taken aback when the movie started to focus on Asuka at the end and Kensuke showed up out of nowhere wearing the doll costume, that was the DUMBEST thing I’ve seen. At first, I was thought “maybe that’s okay, after all Asuka is older than Shinji now” but then they reveal that Mari is MUCH older than Shinji and it’s now okay? At the train station at the end of the movie, Shinji and Mari are adults but so is Asuka, so why didn’t Shinji get with Asuka? Honestly, it feels like Asuka got the short end of the stick here. I like Kensuke and Mari but they got very little screen time or enough character development to warrant ending up with our main characters. That ending just kinda hurts because I thought the ending otherwise was pretty great. Hopefully in the next iteration they don’t make a mistake like this but it’s okay, I still have EOE
@@kingchernobyl7675 I get how you feel, i honestly thought the same for having Shinji and Asuka be together and all. And i do also feel like asuka was left out and alone at the end. Because at the train station scene, she was alone while kawrou and rei were talking with eachother. It is somewhat saddening to see asuka not be with anyone but Shinji with Mari is a huge change of pace, even showing that shinji has grown by him flirting back with mari instead of being flustered. I like how things turned out, but if it were up to me, Things would be different-
@@SharpGT someone made a really good point. Rei was told in the film that holding hands is something that people do hoping that they get along. Mari has been shown to be very flirtatious regardless of gender and maybe that’s because she’s trying to get everyone to be happy. Yes, she is with Shinji in the end which makes sense because she rescued him which means she’s the only other person from the Eva universe. When Shinji touches her hand and flirts back, she takes off the collar, proving that he has moved on and have matured and when they are running up the stairs and away, they are no longer holding hands. This take on the ending makes more sense because I like the concept of Mari being someone caught in the loop and trying to break it by bringing everyone together rather than some random waifu for Shinji. Anno makes his films very open I feel like for reasons like this. In my head canon (I’m coping so hard right now lmao) Shinji does get with Asuka because like you mentioned, Asuka is alone at the station which to me implies that she’s still waiting on that someone so she isn’t lonely anymore, and that someone is Shinji now that he’s grown
Asuka?? Most of Evangelion 3 was romance baiting with Shinji and Kaworu. While Shinji was shown to be attracted to Asuka, it was made very clear that it was out of desperation and their dynamic was extremely toxic.
@@kingchernobyl7675 I like your comment but the last part with Mari and Shinji running together outside the station, in that overhead city shot, feels like Shinji just moved on from his past with someone new. I seriously don't like that Asuka is basically still alone but I think the scene where Asuka takes Mari to Shinji's containment to say she's over him (even though it still feels like she's trying to convince herself that's true in that scene)and their last interaction on the EOE beach where Shinji also says that he past tense liked her were the indications where they weren't going to end up together. I just thought the ending would be where, even if it isn't romantic, the main cast would be the support that they need for each other finally after basically getting better during the additional impact or whatever it's called lol. Just Mari coming in for the steal, a character I didn't like because she wasn't really well explained or defined in the movies and not because she was positive, just made it worse.
What I love about the evangelion community is that despite the many flaws that this movie has, everyone just wanted Anno to be happy and they respected his decision and they’re glad that he finally made the ending he wanted
You must not have seen the MAL reviews dawg lmfao
I'll put my interpretation here with some background.
I've watched the show 2 years ago and I loved it. Cried at the ending of episode 26 feeling understood after going through depression myself.
Watched the rebuilds only now since I heard of the final one coming out. The first movie was alright, the second one I didn't enjoy as much and the third one I straight up hated it.
At the end of this one I cried again.
If the anime finale was about shinji I felt like this one's more about gendoh. I hated Mari right until the end, but that's when it hit me. The way I looked at this movie is through a "depression filter". What I mean is that it shows you how much there's to enjoy in life, even in the simplest of things that often we give for granted. How depression can be beaten, with the help of others...
All characters are part of Anno's personality and this time (unlike in end of Eva) they have overcome their problems as has Anno himself. This is a happy ending because it's HIS happy ending, if that makes sense.
From a technical standpoint I've got nothing to say except that some fighting scenes were a bit meh, I felt the Michael Bay effect too.
I personally didn't like the fanservice in the show and here there was even more.
If some fighting sequences were a little less tedious (the ones with the wunder weren't too interesting at times) and the fanservice wasn't so blatant I'd give this a 10. The village sequence is a feast for the eyes and Gendoh's final moments are beautifully designed (which given the complex set of emotions and character depth it's hard to convey in terms of pictures and animation)
8.5/10
I may not know anything about Evangelion, but man I really enjoy watching you review movies
I’m a bit disappointed that Shinji did not end up with either Rei or Asuka.
But I am ok with Mari since the movie series is much different than Neon Genesis Evangelion show.
But i am glad he finally found the happiness he is been seeking and made peace within himself.
I agree so much with you, i had enjoyed the rebuilds up until this movie. To me 3.0 + 1.0 feels very disconnected with the rest of the rebuild movies. I really really hated the fan service shots because it's obvious that those shots were there for the horny people. The "fanservice" in NGE wasn't just "haha tittie let me take it out and bust a quick one" it was there to show us how the characters viewed themselves, for example the scene where Shinji falls onto Rei and accidentally grops her, that wasn't just a typical "hahaa anime groping" scene it was to demonstrate how little Rei thinks of herself and how she doesn't care if she's touched like that. The ending for me wasn't earned because it embraces the escapist fantasy that NGE and EOE were telling you not to fall for, it's so stupid how Shinji is able to rewrite everything at the end so everything is honky dory sure we don't know how much time has passed since Instrumentality and the final scene but that's also the same for End of Eva. We know time has clearly passed but the world is still screwed up and not fixed. I don't hate the movie it was just extremely underwhelming to me and before someone comes and tells me i am a nostalgic fanboy who hates the rebuilds and just wanted NGE all over again just know i got into Evangelion when it was released on Netflix and i had loved rebuild movies 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0, Thrice Upon a Time had just dissapointed me
Isn't human instrumentality the escapist ending? Rejection of the Evas is rejecting the escape of the purpouse and meaning Shinji created for himself through the Evas. I think Thrice Upon a Time combines the anti-escapist message from the T.V. ending and the acceptance of the consequences of your actions and their effects on others like in EoE. The destruction of the Evas also symbolizes the conclusion of Anno's life quest, Evangelion. The Evas are to Shinji as Evangelion is to Anno.
I have a different interpretation regarding the message of the movie: Let go of the past and the guilt that might surround it, don't let it drag you down since you can't change it.
With all his eva figs still surprised he still haven't reviewed eva unit 1 final model
I sent him one, so he should be reviewing it soon.
Hoping he would review it it's a great figure
I personally found Asuka merging with Bardiel to be one of the few memorable moments, but it also wasn't long enough or meaningful enough - visually stunning way of doing nothing for Asuka.
I think that shinji gets with mari not because of her character, but because of what see represents. Anno said that “Eva was a story that loops” and also how Mari symbolises the difference between nge and roe so in a way, shinji is choose to go a different path and break the loop of his suffering. I think this makes sense since the additional impact seemed to kinda break the fourth wall so he knows how to break the cycle
As much as I enjoy your toy review persona, I really like the honest Jobby we got here. Your takes were nuanced, you brought up some really good points, and it was a solid breakdown of the film. Would love to see you go even MORE in depth with movie/show reviews in the future!
Whereas I felt that the original series was focused on the value of living life, Shin Eva is more of a meta conclusion of Evangelion for me. The message that I got of "letting go of the past and moving on with the future" coincides with Anno's journey of ending Evangelion for good and working on other projects he truly loves. A "Neon Genesis" as they in the film, where Shinji literally rewrites the world to be rid of Evangelions. While I always liked the Rebuild series, its something that could never top the original for me and is more taken as a "what if?" scenario with more anime tropes than the original had (and more CGI).
That being said, there was a level of profundity for me in Thrice Upon a Time than in the prior three Rebuild Films and its something that I find strangely amazing. The music and many of the emotional beats with the characters in this film are especially powerful as a dude who grew up with his brother's Evangelion VHS tapes in the early 2000s. As someone who loves Kaworu's character, it was very surprising to see even he finds his catharsis through the additional impact, and I have to admit seeing him cry with happiness tugged hard at my heartstrings.
The original series is an embodiment of Anno at that moment in his life, which is why its so down to earth and often times uncomfortably real and painful. In that regard, its something that shouldn't (and thankfully can't) be recreated perfectly. Regardless, this whole journey through the Rebuilds and waiting for their ending was something worthwhile for me.
But it isn't a what if, and in the Rebuild verse, is the same verse as the original series.
If Shinji kept on the same path as the original, it would have ended the same, but he rejected it.
I genuinely enjoyed this more laid back more serious style of reviews, I would love to see more for any movies or shows you like
I'd love to see reviews of the Earthrise and Kingdom shows
I will forever hold Evangelion in my heart as i grew up watching this and only enjoying it for it’s captivating fight scenes as a kid, to actually understanding (kinda) and learning from it as an adult. Goodbye and thank you for helping me grow mentally and for being there when i was alone. P.S. Reí’s head exploding into orange Fanta rlly hit me in a good way and was the most interesting scene for me and i think Shinji’s reaction was not what i expected very underwhelming.
I agree with all of these points. Personally I went into this movie not thinking about it as a finale but as a goodbye, and I still stand by this now, after having watched it twice. For me End of Eva will always be the true ending of the series, the one that encapsulates its message the best. But this film was a thoroughly enjoyable farewell and I've already made peace with its short comings. Goodbye, all of Evangelion.
P.S. DAMN THAT SOUNDTRACK IS REALLY GOOD THOUGH.
I wanna know Jobby’s thoughts on The Room
And he should wear a Red Dress while he reviews it
Mari is the only person who have a significant attraction to Shinji.
I mean we have friends, and there are also people who is willing to go beyond friendship. Mari is that person that you know like you, and it is up to you to decide if you will keep her. She made me think that I can be my self and not pretend to be another person for someone to like me. I have been single for 4 years now and she helped me think that maybe there would be someone like her for me.😭
Mari introduced herself like 20 minutes before the end, and ends up as canon romance is so ridiculous. She should of had a bigger presence in Shinji's recovery for it to warrant a pairing. The animation was ughhh...they moved so fast that it shakes the belief that they're fighting in 75 meter robots. While the first 3 film( EOE and Rebuild 1 and 2) had slower animation, i felt weight of the action giving more stakes to the movie. Also these films simplified all the characters to basic archetypes. Part of the charm of the original series, was complex and conflicted each character was. Either way the rebuilds are good as standalone, but in no way replaces the original series.
Apparently she gets a pass because she's a self-insert/representation for Anno's wife.
This is exactly how I felt about the movie honestly.
Still waiting on the dotm and aoe reviews
It’s so funny when I saw the title, I haven’t seen the movie yet but my first thought was “the ending was probably a little too happy and the message from the originals got muddled because of it” lol
Action/Animation: I already disliked Remake's use of CGI and my tipping point on top of that were 2.22's new "abstract art" Angels. So you can only imagine how completely disconnected and apathetic I was in regard to every single action scene in the last 2 movies which definitely ramped those bad aspects up by 1000%, now being all about grand "abstract art" performances (not even "angels" or "battles" at this point, just Olympic performances of some sort, including no regard to self-imposed limits toward good directing and framing), even small-scale fights have Shonen-aura-arms or are just an art piece backdrop for a dialog section (I get there's a message and the fighting ain't relevant, but the original & EoE also have messages and meaning within the fights while still treating them as a [relative] down-to-earth affair rather than avant-garde disconnected-from-reality animation segments)
Plot/Story: Aight, I guess. Sameself body of messages we've had before Remake, new perspective here and there, definitely covered before this movie came out via fan discussions and youtube videos even with my casual participation in them. While ok, I don't see this aspect as THE reason to watch this movie. Too bad the village segment (my favourite) is useless when the end re-dos all those people's efforts with the new reality, felt like it was just an addendum to explain the transition between 2.22 and 3.33 as well as some world-building (again meaningless because everything "resets" if I'm understanding it right).
META: Is all the Remake has going for it, especially this movie. But after decades of discussing about the show and meta elements I actually care little for it. Glad to see Anno having fun expressing himself however he wishes, but it's just not the thing for me at this point. I mean, EoE was also ridden with meta in your face, especially the theatre shot and "fan" letters, but it was a highly enjoyable movie on its own, regardless of those asides.
Movie: 4/10 (with all points going towards the village part alone)
Honestly I loved 3.0+1.0, it wasn’t what I wanted but I still felt satisfied with the open ended conclusion. How they did Shinji and other Rei was really well done imo, and that part with Eva 01 reactivating WAS SICK. It would never top EoE and I knew it wouldn’t. I knew many people wouldn’t love or like it, and I can actually understand why, it’s got a lot of creative choices that some may or may not like. Though we can all agree that we’re happy Anno is free and doin a hell of a lot better.
I think 3+1 is over all a weak movie but I thought it was heartfelt and I appreciated the positive outlook on it. In many ways the vibe I got from the finale was Anno taking Eva back from the fans and bringing it back into his hands, I think his goal was to pretty much reach the same type of finale as EoE (like a world reset thing) but instead of making it sting it's to show that hey life can be better after terrible periods in your life. Since EoE was made during the height of Anno's depression it only makes sense that 3+1 feels a bit more like a mirror reflection of it. It's the same, but the intentions are different, more kind. THAT BEING SAID, the second act of the movie is a fucking mess and the build up to the finale was clunky as all hell and some of the sequences just do not flow properly and the pacing is straight batshit insane, like a 16 year old trying to figure out how to ease in the gas for the first time, it's just fuckin jerky..
i loved this Jobby, it felt like one of your older videos where you see your true self, these are amazing
and yes id love to see more of these serious reviews of movies
Would've you preferred Anno just wallow in depression forever? I look at this movie as his way of saying this : I am more than just my depression. If I can overcome it, so can you.
Everyone who keeps claiming that Shinji and Mari are now a couple clearly doesn't understand subtext and symbolism - which is ironic, since the majority of Evangelion is subtext and symbolism.
Did everyone completely miss the scene where Rei asks why people hold hands, and Hikari answers "it's something we do hoping we can get along." Throughout the rebuilds, Mari is a very flirtatious character and Shinji is always awkward around her. The point of him flirting back was to show that he's not the same anymore, which Mari comments on. She then removes Shinji's collar, the last thing connecting him to Evangelion and the two run off into the world together. But if you want further proof that the ending wasn't meant to actually imply they're romantically involved, look no further than literally the very next shot when we see them running out of the train station -- they aren't holding hands, just running beside each other.
Even if that’s true, kinda weird that Asuka, a main character, would end up dating Kensuke out of nowhere
I like to think that what you just say is the actual ending but deep down we all know that shinji is gonna end up with her since she is the representation of anno's wife
I think Anno wanted to give his characters a happy ending, and then worked backwards and it hurt the movie a lot.
For myself, seeing Toji married with class-rep is more than enough. And they also had baby~~
I honestly can't feel this movie as a "deeply personal movie", with all the problems Anno said he got from it, (from scraping everything and starting from zero at least one time, to not identifying with the characters anymore, not to mention the headaches that producing and telling this story, again, caused him)
This is just my personal opinion though.
To me, Mari getting with Shinji actually makes sense. Mari is really the only character healthy enough to work with Shinji and have the patience and attitude to help him grow and get out of his funk. She was basically already keeping that role in the team since she was the only one carrying the optimism and passion in a group full of damaged, mentally traumatized people. She basically works as a non-toxic Asuka for Shinji, as well as a new start, finally moving on past his hang ups and frustrations that led to bad things when he tried to get involved with Rei or Asuka. He doesn’t need a clone of his mother to feel loved anymore, and he doesn’t need an equally confused girl’s affection and validation who he did some messed up crap to. I don’t think either pairing could’ve worked out. But with Mari he can move on from his bad past and start new with someone who doesn’t have bad memories attached to her. The way she helped him move on and unchain him from his past traumas is pretty symbolically shown when she frees him from his collar.
The on again off again relationships that drag you down in your life usually don’t end up being your endgame anyways. The person u often end up with sneaks in to your life without much notice.
It might not be what you initially wanted, but it turns out to be what you truly needed to become a better, happier person.
And Asuka Shikinami did some messed up crap on him too.
And the movie emphasised the bad idea of pairing them both.
I haven't watched any of these movies yet but I plan to watch them in the future if I can.
They are all on prime video (in the uk)
Now in the US to
Piracy
I have watched all of these movies already and I plan to watch them again in the future.