Fr. If it is gonna be a problem during certain bosses or whatever, then keep it the same in certain scenarios and make it clear. But for questing, skilling, grinding, etc., it would be fine. Especially with keeping new players in the game, which really is the biggest part imo.
@@JustAnotherdude23it's not good to straight nerf all end game setups across the board in a way that simply transfers the "walking sucks" problem from new players to end game players Neither group should experience this crappy problem after the changes. Why God would you want to fix a problem for one group and then add it to another group? How does that make any sense?
I'd be cool if you could store graceful in a POH and use fashionscape to train agility as how it is now. Start with something small before getting too grand scale with an agility update.
wait if im reading the this right, the drain rate would worse if you have 64kg in your inventory than it would be currently... doesnt even get come down to the number that it is currently at 99 agility.
lol a lot of these comments are so bonkers. Basically saying “new players should suffer like I did.” I’m not saying they should or shouldn’t make changes but that’s not a valid reason for either. I will say infinite stamina during leagues was so beautiful.
some fucking jamfkex employee that really likes their crossfit (=swingers) club and just HAD TO TELL THE WORLD that HIIT WORKOUTS are the cream of the crop
Fucking how? I'm 81 Agility and never even dip below 70 run energy doing a full tree/fruit tree run with only 2 pieces of graceful (gloves and cape) as I'm wearing the Farmer outfit.
farm guild-varlamore-camelot-icy basalt -stony basalt- falador-hosideus-morytania and i never unlocked harmless.. never run out of energy at under 80 agility
Really simple solution: unlimited run energy unless youre in combat, the wildy or a dungeon, means that almost all quests and bossses are exactly the same, but you can run around the overword a lot faster (and a couple of skilling grinds will be a little easier). Done.
That would tank energy pots making herblore worse make agility essentially useless and tank amalyse so you wouldn’t profit anything from marks. It’s fine with the way it is but I agree with heavier penalties based on gear weight
Them increasing the drain rate when your weight is high is stupid and contradictory to all the other changes they are proposing.... Who tf looks at their weight? So it's basically "Make it easier for new players, and screwing experienced end-game players" The same ideology that is ruining every game out there....
that makes perfect sense and I've always gauged my weight to my gameplay?!?. they're catering this game more towards irons (the better way to play) join the bandwagon lad
@@mardingames14"here's all this cool end game gear you've spent years gathering. Now, put half of it in the bank cause it's too heavy. This is a good thing"
@@jozefkriner5600 Absolutely agree, I go star mining and it's a bunch of degenerates flaming me for having a none iron account as they grind hours to make a stamina pot 🤡🤪
I think that graceful change is actually sick. Agility sucks, falling in the middle of a course is terrible. Unlimited run energy out in open areas is a great idea. Having to drink staminas in the middle of blast furnace or mining trips doesn't add anything. Sacrifice stamina cost/value to make the game better overall.
What i wanna know is why is that guy asking about serp+blowpipe in Zily if hes going to guthans the minions to heal? Why would he want them nearly dead from toxic so he cant heal from them with guthans
Could have strength play into carry capacity. Higher strength = ability to carry heavy objects while retaining run energy making your kg carried less detrimental to end game.
just make your agility level gain you more run energy, like 90 agility you gain 10 run, 50 youd gain 4 run energy, im sure they can work out what the real numbers would be by putting percentage on lvls or whatever and factor in weigh to add a -xx depending on your weight. but this proposal just sounds like a debuff to graceful which id be for, if the regen
Could probably just set it so at 99 agility with 0 weight, you lose no energy when running. Then just scale agility to affect regen rate and weight affect drain rate up to whatever max they want to set and make it linear.
The fix is: Energy pots are now available to member players from Trainer NPC in lumbridge. At 99 agility run drain is now 26% slower. If this new update has the Mets of flicking my run energy I’m done.
I know it's trivial at the end of the day... But "An HIIT" is correct, rather than "A HIIT" because the pronunciation of the letter itself begins with a hard vowel. Either way, I think we can all agree that English sucks 😂
I say we hafe run energy drain slower with higher agility levels. I think it is that way already... But i dont see a difference.. i do like whdn we had the option to "rest" snd recharge energy faster
Back of the envelope it's not too hard a nerf even for end game if you're walking part of the time. 4:1 olm breaks right about even, sara gwd kiting control clicking gets better, and the other shit calls for stam pots anyways.
I'm glad it's not just me who doesn't like the changes. For context, I've gotten 99 Agility on 3 separate accounts, and am currently 93 Agility on my 4th one. I'll have to see how the new regen and drain energy stuff works first before I pass judgment on it, but from what I understood in the blog it's overly complicated and unbalanced. My main pet peeve, though, are the proposed Graceful changes: them getting rid of the run energy restore is something I'm ambiguous about. But why on Earth are they going to make it give an increased chance of spawning Marks of Grace? You can already get Marks of Grace at every course now, so they're already more abundant than they were previously. This change will only make their price drop even more; and as someone who used to make good starting cash by doing non stop Agility, this irks me. But the cherry on top is that Graceful will now give a 100% success rate on rooftop courses, meaning that you will get maximum xp per hour at every course as soon as you unlock it. This will make courses like Seers (where you usually will fail obstacles until the mid 70's or early 80's I believe) even more broken. Not to mention that one of the few things that makes Agility feel like a progressive skill is that failrate doesn't go away until a certain level; removing fail rate completely will make Agility even more soul crushing to train, since you'll no longer have even that slight motivation to keep you going. Lastly, if you stop failing completely, you will no longer need to bring food occasionally when training Agility, and bots will be able to train Agility with even more ease than before. Neither of which seems like a good thing. Agility has a lot of flaws, and the run energy drain for new players is a nuisance. They're not wrong about that. But these changes are overkill, and just don't seem like the right way to go about fixing things
Interesting how this is going to effect wilderness hybriding. Seems like if you have a low agility level you'll be at a slight disadvantage vs someone with higher agility, since the lower agility user will have to be more mindful of their run energy/stamina. Whereas the higher agility player would be more or less unaffected. Most low level agility pkers might have to start sacrificing food slots for more stam pots
I just don't understand why they have to ruin graceful and its primary purpose. Updating an armor set to cater to fasionscape, is like complaining about having wear melee armor to melee effectively... Sure, the no fail effect for agility courses is cool... but does that not feel more like something the agility cape should have?
@user-ky1hf8ry7q I don't know, but I feel like alot of capes have that same sentiment of providing a bonus that isn't necessarily useful past 99. It would fit the current precedent more. I would love if they added that bonus to the graceful set...but not if it's taking away the most prominent use case. I like how the graceful set is useful in so many different activities. Making these changes would make it useless, while not even offering alternatives in it's place. Besides, fashionscape already has a plugin for players to look as they desire.
Its weird bc it will go down faster but regenerate approxinately twice as fast with more weight. So it sounds like the player will still have that "skill" of controlling when to run/walk and budget it during different activities. Not sure if there is any way to know if this is bad or good without in game testing or just releasing it to see what it is like. I just hope this doesn't ruin any activities that relied on that particular value of run energy duration with a particular amount of weight.
allow running energy regen but at 1/4 or 1/2 the amount, change stamina pot to be a slightly lower regen reduction and/or convert some of the reduced % and add it to energy regen
Literally the only change they need to make is a boost to run recovery rate in raids. "You feel invigorated by the power within the dungeon, your agility has been boosted."
I feel like this just fucks up most of the "skillful management of run energy" grinds because you now just drain quicker anyway even at 99 and dont get the graceful bonus anymore. So you just have to buy a fuckload of more run energy potions and staminas.
@@Pensnmusic yeah I just read through everything. Olm seems to be the main issue. Especially if doing scaled/solo. This can be easily fixed by giving a weight reduction in Cox though
I think the main thing with this proposal is "who" and "why", when it comes down to it. All Agility needs to do is let you do obstacles and have slower run drain... like... what, did some neckbeard try to runecraft in his favorite event items and get mad, throw a temper tantrum on Reddit, and then send all the mods on Twitter salty tweets about how dumb it is that you need Graceful to run longer? My money is really on that niche minority of people that get salty they can't wear event gear when doing farming runs... who really don't matter, at the end of the day, because RuneScape has never been a game about fashion, but a game about gear/stat-based validation. All Jagex can really do to Agility and run at this point is either bite the bullet and add the RS3 rest option (not a big deal, really), raise stamina decay at higher agility levels (which, you know, it should), or add cosmetic transmogs options to gear (provided you have the item and stats to equip it) so that dumb-dumbs can wear their hideous event items and be happy...
rule to follow make it so everything works out so with graceful at 99 agility you basically don't run out of run energy that's what the top end should be as a result from agility changes if its not its hot garbage.
I really think they should allow anything that regens health to regen your run energy that much as well. For example if a shark heals 20 health it should regenerate your run energy by 20 as well. I think it fills the gap between normal regeneration and super energy/stam potions.
ok they're going to eliminate graceful scape by changing it from a soft requirement to now forcing you to wearing it while training agility. instead of an unofficial graceful scape it'll now be an official skilling outfitscape
IMO buff the duration and recharge and also give a very minor amount of xp just for walking. For example it could be 10-20k for non-stopility walking. This would drastically improve early game well essentially doing nothing to end game as everyone uses tp's. Another option would be making it to where you don't lose run energy when on roads/pathways.
Saw chat saying it during but bring "rest" back along with these changes if that's the route they truly want to go. Might make it a bearable for late gamers
The rebalance isn't to buff run energy. Its mainly to just buff early game and skilling running (except blast furnace rip). Good Players will take advantage of regen buff via walking (AKA no stamina Zilyana, walking during Olm 3-0). Bad players will be stam potted there anyway.
Am I mental for just wanting them to leave it alone. Im not one of those guys who hates any and all changes to the game, in fact quite the opposite but i feel like even though it is shit its one of those core mechanics that if changed will change the whole experience. or maybe I'm just a masochist lol
tldr post change = run recharge rate is up across the board higher agil level will help if you are heavy you drain faster than before higher agil level will help
basically a dub all around if you are low kg and high agil you will need less pots to get around if you are 64kg and need to run you would bring a stam anyway noone is running around with inventorys full of granite for fun
Imagine if your agil level made your run drain slower, like level 99 is like having a perm stamina, annd 70 is like a full run and a super energy and it regens faster.
I like the idea of walking less when you're low weight, and then make like 55kg+ weight consume the same energy rate that it does now. Buff having lower weight and keep high weight where it is now; doesn't seem that difficult to me no need to make the run system worse for high weight.
You can literally run forever with 84kg right now. They need to make weight matter and that's what they are doing. I hope they push it as an integrity change.
They want to push absolute dog shit changes like this but can't even be fucked to fix the infinite run energy bug that's been in game for years and is quite literally impossible to get rid of once you've done it.
They are trying to making higher agility lvls more effective for when you have heavier gear but I feel like once your lvl 99 it’s should be the same as it is now
So this is an agility nerf right? Because everyone is fucked except if youre wearing no graceful with no weight then you get a whole 25% less drain rate
I personally don't have an issue with how run energy works right now. What they're proposing definitely seems pretty fucking stupid. Punishing late game gear is really dumb. However, maybe their prices might dip for a little bit so I can afford an upgrade haha.
Drains a little less with less weight. Drains way more with more weight. They want to make it so we strategize what we're wearing and be more considerate of weight as a new "strategy mechanic." I'm voting NO. Make two different polls, one for the increase in regen and the other for the increase in drain rate so I can vote yes on regen and no on drain.
If only there was some sort of skill or some sort of enchanted jewelry or piece of magical gear that lets you get around the world and near to anywhere you may possibly need to go reducing the need to “run” everywhere
Jagex: Things to keep in mind while reading...
Condor: STFU, I dont care
* 10 seconds later *
Condor: I dont understand
Yep
Things ignorant people do lol
In middle school my mom would actually call it Run Scape...close enough mom...as long as you buy me the 5 dollar membership card from Walmart.
Peak memory
Run away scape
Run Escape
My mom are danish so my mother always said Rune skab "Rune Closet"
Honestly not sure anyone at jagex would know what a HIIT is. 😂😂😂
The king has never worked out either so no surprise, also thats not how Americans would write that either
Mod Archie is a gym rat. Which is cool. He used to look so hungry but he's built now.
@@randynielsen1413 except the king is Australian right. Also HIIT is a worldwide thing.
watching this mf try to make sense of a graph makes ME feel special
Just make it drain slower and resen faster, God damn what is this shit
Fr. If it is gonna be a problem during certain bosses or whatever, then keep it the same in certain scenarios and make it clear. But for questing, skilling, grinding, etc., it would be fine. Especially with keeping new players in the game, which really is the biggest part imo.
It's a bunch of braindead devs put a bunch of idiots in a room you get some shaweet ideas
Na making the weight of equipment matter for certain strategies is good for the game.
@@JustAnotherdude23it's not good to straight nerf all end game setups across the board in a way that simply transfers the "walking sucks" problem from new players to end game players
Neither group should experience this crappy problem after the changes. Why God would you want to fix a problem for one group and then add it to another group? How does that make any sense?
@@Pensnmusic it incentives end game players to use different equipment depending on the content. For olm you should need lighter gear to 3:0
Being punished so much for weight would be cool if the game's gear was balanced in any relevant to weight lol
you all need to go for a walk.
High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT)
lol then why are you here?
@@JakenKhakis cry is free
Touch grass
Lmao this is the type of video id listen to on a walk.
This is embarrassing to read these comments yall crying cause people can run for longer and regenerate faster? Get a life
I'd be cool if you could store graceful in a POH and use fashionscape to train agility as how it is now. Start with something small before getting too grand scale with an agility update.
I think storing graceful in poh is an interesting idea, however I don't think it should come with the weight reduction as well.
But you already can train agility with fashionscape, don't most courses restore run energy with succesful obstacles/laps?
@@mirko241 correct
God he's like my grandma struggling to understand how to make an email
If the newbies can't afford stam pots they can deal with it, why they need to mess with mechanics now after all these years
Just bring back resting.
Just boost for 103 lvl herblore and make a div super stamina pot.
is this rune news? I feel like you barely told me this time
You're watching "what?" And this is: "What????) Please fucking tell me if it's rune rune news news
@@Xepent i had no idea we were watching rune news
You're not watching rune news, he is not Ryan Ryan, this isn't rune news, and you're not watching...rune news.
is this a new series? just a random reaction video?? no rune news today??
wait if im reading the this right, the drain rate would worse if you have 64kg in your inventory than it would be currently... doesnt even get come down to the number that it is currently at 99 agility.
lol a lot of these comments are so bonkers. Basically saying “new players should suffer like I did.” I’m not saying they should or shouldn’t make changes but that’s not a valid reason for either. I will say infinite stamina during leagues was so beautiful.
some fucking jamfkex employee that really likes their crossfit (=swingers) club and just HAD TO TELL THE WORLD that HIIT WORKOUTS are the cream of the crop
HIIT workouts are pretty great ngl
But 90% of this player base don’t know there is a zone 4 and 5 for their heart rate
@@FreelancerAlpha1-1 "any triple digits heartbeat will KILL YOU!"
Have you tried turning the Internet on and off again? Maybe restart your modem
They are trying too much. This is terrible. They just need a rest option and a buf on regain stamina based on your agilty level.
nah just drain rate, everyone has stams anyway so its only for ironmen
rest is a fucking terrible idea lmao
imagine having to sit down for 30 seconds to get ur run back. yall got nostalgia for RS3
No to the rest idea but agility making regen fast would be nice
Need a buff across the board with run depletion
@@currentcommerce4774 rs2 not rs3
Anyone else here remember the old "sit" system which would rapidly restore your run? Man I'm starting to feel that age creep up on me.
With full graceful 82 agility i still run out of run energy doing a farming run. Agility is useless
Lol are you running from every patch to the next?? Like half patches have teleports next to them... no way you should run out of energy
Fucking how? I'm 81 Agility and never even dip below 70 run energy doing a full tree/fruit tree run with only 2 pieces of graceful (gloves and cape) as I'm wearing the Farmer outfit.
farm guild-varlamore-camelot-icy basalt -stony basalt- falador-hosideus-morytania and i never unlocked harmless.. never run out of energy at under 80 agility
You hella inefficient ☠️☠️☠️
you must be running to all the plots from the farming guild, habe you heard of a poh pool? where most of the teleports to plots are also at?
Really simple solution: unlimited run energy unless youre in combat, the wildy or a dungeon, means that almost all quests and bossses are exactly the same, but you can run around the overword a lot faster (and a couple of skilling grinds will be a little easier). Done.
That would tank energy pots making herblore worse make agility essentially useless and tank amalyse so you wouldn’t profit anything from marks. It’s fine with the way it is but I agree with heavier penalties based on gear weight
Them increasing the drain rate when your weight is high is stupid and contradictory to all the other changes they are proposing.... Who tf looks at their weight? So it's basically "Make it easier for new players, and screwing experienced end-game players" The same ideology that is ruining every game out there....
that makes perfect sense and I've always gauged my weight to my gameplay?!?. they're catering this game more towards irons (the better way to play) join the bandwagon lad
@@mardingames14Being an ironman isn't the 'better way to play' you're playing the same game but can't trade players, that's it.
@@mardingames14"here's all this cool end game gear you've spent years gathering. Now, put half of it in the bank cause it's too heavy. This is a good thing"
@mardingames14 you are %100 the problem with the game lmao. Irons are just anti social clowns who cry until jagex caters to them
@@jozefkriner5600 Absolutely agree, I go star mining and it's a bunch of degenerates flaming me for having a none iron account as they grind hours to make a stamina pot 🤡🤪
I think that graceful change is actually sick. Agility sucks, falling in the middle of a course is terrible. Unlimited run energy out in open areas is a great idea. Having to drink staminas in the middle of blast furnace or mining trips doesn't add anything. Sacrifice stamina cost/value to make the game better overall.
What i wanna know is why is that guy asking about serp+blowpipe in Zily if hes going to guthans the minions to heal?
Why would he want them nearly dead from toxic so he cant heal from them with guthans
Could have strength play into carry capacity. Higher strength = ability to carry heavy objects while retaining run energy making your kg carried less detrimental to end game.
just make your agility level gain you more run energy, like 90 agility you gain 10 run, 50 youd gain 4 run energy, im sure they can work out what the real numbers would be by putting percentage on lvls or whatever and factor in weigh to add a -xx depending on your weight. but this proposal just sounds like a debuff to graceful which id be for, if the regen
Could probably just set it so at 99 agility with 0 weight, you lose no energy when running. Then just scale agility to affect regen rate and weight affect drain rate up to whatever max they want to set and make it linear.
The fix is: Energy pots are now available to member players from Trainer NPC in lumbridge. At 99 agility run drain is now 26% slower.
If this new update has the Mets of flicking my run energy I’m done.
That fix doesn't fix anything, it just shifts the problem to drinking more potions until you are 99 agility
Just saw the example video on reddit, Jagex is out of their fucking minds
Yeah games going downhill quick we need more competent people in the team otherwise she'll die out and they'll be re-releasing 07 in a few more years
@@sawyerowen5377 So far the content they actually put in the game is fantastic, just a lot of dumb ideas floating around
@@sawyerowen5377 it's the end of the world and the game woe is us. Lmao. The game is doing great. This is the first iteration of this idea. Chill
@@sawyerowen5377 lmao yea sure buddy
@@sawyerowen5377 Competence left jamflex when the Gower brothers left. Good thing Brighter Shores is out soon!
I know it's trivial at the end of the day... But "An HIIT" is correct, rather than "A HIIT" because the pronunciation of the letter itself begins with a hard vowel. Either way, I think we can all agree that English sucks 😂
I tested in my cox gear, and since I mix in walk/run at olm, under new regen rates I nearly break even without using stams
Wonder if you could manage your weight to actually break even without stams.. would be nice for irons
I say we hafe run energy drain slower with higher agility levels. I think it is that way already... But i dont see a difference.. i do like whdn we had the option to "rest" snd recharge energy faster
Just got full gracefull a few days ago now it’s their nerfing it lol
HIIT is high intensity interval training.
Its a type of workout where you change the intensity and style of excercise frequently.
Back of the envelope it's not too hard a nerf even for end game if you're walking part of the time. 4:1 olm breaks right about even, sara gwd kiting control clicking gets better, and the other shit calls for stam pots anyways.
I'm glad it's not just me who doesn't like the changes. For context, I've gotten 99 Agility on 3 separate accounts, and am currently 93 Agility on my 4th one.
I'll have to see how the new regen and drain energy stuff works first before I pass judgment on it, but from what I understood in the blog it's overly complicated and unbalanced. My main pet peeve, though, are the proposed Graceful changes: them getting rid of the run energy restore is something I'm ambiguous about. But why on Earth are they going to make it give an increased chance of spawning Marks of Grace? You can already get Marks of Grace at every course now, so they're already more abundant than they were previously. This change will only make their price drop even more; and as someone who used to make good starting cash by doing non stop Agility, this irks me.
But the cherry on top is that Graceful will now give a 100% success rate on rooftop courses, meaning that you will get maximum xp per hour at every course as soon as you unlock it. This will make courses like Seers (where you usually will fail obstacles until the mid 70's or early 80's I believe) even more broken. Not to mention that one of the few things that makes Agility feel like a progressive skill is that failrate doesn't go away until a certain level; removing fail rate completely will make Agility even more soul crushing to train, since you'll no longer have even that slight motivation to keep you going.
Lastly, if you stop failing completely, you will no longer need to bring food occasionally when training Agility, and bots will be able to train Agility with even more ease than before. Neither of which seems like a good thing.
Agility has a lot of flaws, and the run energy drain for new players is a nuisance. They're not wrong about that. But these changes are overkill, and just don't seem like the right way to go about fixing things
Started watching you recently, only in the mid game of osrs love the content king!
Interesting how this is going to effect wilderness hybriding. Seems like if you have a low agility level you'll be at a slight disadvantage vs someone with higher agility, since the lower agility user will have to be more mindful of their run energy/stamina. Whereas the higher agility player would be more or less unaffected. Most low level agility pkers might have to start sacrificing food slots for more stam pots
I just don't understand why they have to ruin graceful and its primary purpose. Updating an armor set to cater to fasionscape, is like complaining about having wear melee armor to melee effectively...
Sure, the no fail effect for agility courses is cool... but does that not feel more like something the agility cape should have?
Why would you run courses at 99
@user-ky1hf8ry7q I don't know, but I feel like alot of capes have that same sentiment of providing a bonus that isn't necessarily useful past 99. It would fit the current precedent more.
I would love if they added that bonus to the graceful set...but not if it's taking away the most prominent use case.
I like how the graceful set is useful in so many different activities. Making these changes would make it useless, while not even offering alternatives in it's place.
Besides, fashionscape already has a plugin for players to look as they desire.
Out of all the improvements they have been making, this one just kicked the can so hard
Its weird bc it will go down faster but regenerate approxinately twice as fast with more weight. So it sounds like the player will still have that "skill" of controlling when to run/walk and budget it during different activities.
Not sure if there is any way to know if this is bad or good without in game testing or just releasing it to see what it is like.
I just hope this doesn't ruin any activities that relied on that particular value of run energy duration with a particular amount of weight.
Just put in rest like u can do in rs3 but not available while bossing, how hard can it be?
allow running energy regen but at 1/4 or 1/2 the amount, change stamina pot to be a slightly lower regen reduction and/or convert some of the reduced % and add it to energy regen
Literally the only change they need to make is a boost to run recovery rate in raids. "You feel invigorated by the power within the dungeon, your agility has been boosted."
I feel like this just fucks up most of the "skillful management of run energy" grinds because you now just drain quicker anyway even at 99 and dont get the graceful bonus anymore. So you just have to buy a fuckload of more run energy potions and staminas.
these changes could be fine if they tweak the weights on some gear
make all crystal gear -2kg and ring of endurance like -10
Funny how they announce this after the unlimited stamina bug went public.
Funny they've been talking about adding this for months. Nice gotcha Sherlock
@@theguyonyoutube4826 You got me man.
Wait so youd now have to take like 4-6 stams into a solo cox? Or stand around more often making runs longer. Seems like they didn't think this through
Dude there are energy Restore Pools after every room in Cox for like a year now 😂 but before this change, I'd bring a stam to Cox.
Was looking for this comment. You're gonna blast through 4 stams in olm with these changes
@@cdb_horizon7595or lighter gear
@@marisasobmmmmm it would make cox harder, especially for solos
@@Pensnmusic yeah I just read through everything. Olm seems to be the main issue. Especially if doing scaled/solo. This can be easily fixed by giving a weight reduction in Cox though
Why does the drain rate not change with higher agility unless you have weight?
If you were Jagex, how would you make it less of a GracefulScape?
I think the main thing with this proposal is "who" and "why", when it comes down to it. All Agility needs to do is let you do obstacles and have slower run drain... like... what, did some neckbeard try to runecraft in his favorite event items and get mad, throw a temper tantrum on Reddit, and then send all the mods on Twitter salty tweets about how dumb it is that you need Graceful to run longer?
My money is really on that niche minority of people that get salty they can't wear event gear when doing farming runs... who really don't matter, at the end of the day, because RuneScape has never been a game about fashion, but a game about gear/stat-based validation. All Jagex can really do to Agility and run at this point is either bite the bullet and add the RS3 rest option (not a big deal, really), raise stamina decay at higher agility levels
(which, you know, it should), or add cosmetic transmogs options to gear (provided you have the item and stats to equip it) so that dumb-dumbs can wear their hideous event items and be happy...
instead of -25% at agility level 1, make it -0% at agility level 1, which makes all of this a direct upgrade.
Rebalancing agility in the way theyre suggesting would require them to rebalance the weight of every item in the game i feel like
rule to follow make it so everything works out so with graceful at 99 agility you basically don't run out of run energy that's what the top end should be as a result from agility changes if its not its hot garbage.
If there is content that the increased movment makes too big a difference, just add stamina draining mechanics in those instances
I really think they should allow anything that regens health to regen your run energy that much as well. For example if a shark heals 20 health it should regenerate your run energy by 20 as well. I think it fills the gap between normal regeneration and super energy/stam potions.
I'm sorry but at 99 u shouldn't have to worry about drain rate or it going down
No. That's retarded. Getting 99 shouldn't eliminate an issue, but make it more manageable.
so is gagex making my 99 agility account WORSE? these devs are killing the game.
It sounds like stamina pots are going to get a huge price increase because you’re going to run out of stam doing everything. Especially blast furnace.
Definitely a dog shit update if it goes live
They did the best update to run energy over a decade ago now. It is called resting.
Players: Game is slow.
Jagex: Make it slower!
ok they're going to eliminate graceful scape by changing it from a soft requirement to now forcing you to wearing it while training agility. instead of an unofficial graceful scape it'll now be an official skilling outfitscape
IMO buff the duration and recharge and also give a very minor amount of xp just for walking. For example it could be 10-20k for non-stopility walking. This would drastically improve early game well essentially doing nothing to end game as everyone uses tp's. Another option would be making it to where you don't lose run energy when on roads/pathways.
I hate this. This is a disaster. Don’t fix what isn’t broke.
Saw chat saying it during but bring "rest" back along with these changes if that's the route they truly want to go. Might make it a bearable for late gamers
I'd be fine with just giving us a right click rest option but it needs to regen faster and go down slower.
Yes I would have way more fun sitting on the ground every twenty seconds instead of walking.. what a dumb take
@@Skepticismistheway completely agree. It was that one update in rs2 I think we all completely agreed was a huge improvement.
The rebalance isn't to buff run energy. Its mainly to just buff early game and skilling running (except blast furnace rip). Good Players will take advantage of regen buff via walking (AKA no stamina Zilyana, walking during Olm 3-0). Bad players will be stam potted there anyway.
all the bis gear is heavy af, gonna be awful
holy fuck they are wasting time with this, either give everyone a slight buff or move onto something else. holy fuck.
Am I mental for just wanting them to leave it alone. Im not one of those guys who hates any and all changes to the game, in fact quite the opposite but i feel like even though it is shit its one of those core mechanics that if changed will change the whole experience. or maybe I'm just a masochist lol
I keep thinking “Who wants/proposed this, and why are they allowed to have a job/play the game?”
Spot the difference between these two sentences:
“Bots don’t affect the OSRS economy.”
“I run several RWT bot-farms in OSRS.”
Imagine carrying a cannon. Yeah, fuck this. I'm not going to see this pass and then them spend the next year trying to balance it
1 energy every 8 tickets currently is such a messed up thing.
drain rate when carrying a lot of weight should be affected by both your agility and strength levels
I think making run energy unlimited within a certain distance of main cities would be good, but keep the current run energy algorithm.
The main issue is the overall impact of item weight becomes TOO much. I get increasing its impact, but not that much.
Agility is just an impossible skill to purpose. Infinite run energy is amazing, but if you make it infinite agility has no purpose.
tldr post change =
run recharge rate is up across the board
higher agil level will help
if you are heavy you drain faster than before
higher agil level will help
basically a dub all around if you are low kg and high agil you will need less pots to get around
if you are 64kg and need to run you would bring a stam anyway noone is running around with inventorys full of granite for fun
Imagine if your agil level made your run drain slower, like level 99 is like having a perm stamina, annd 70 is like a full run and a super energy and it regens faster.
not suprised king doesnt know what a HIIT workout is
I just speak normally I guess
bro increasing the cost of running at high weight is fine, just make 99 agility negate it completely, not cap at 125% current drain rate
I like the idea of walking less when you're low weight, and then make like 55kg+ weight consume the same energy rate that it does now. Buff having lower weight and keep high weight where it is now; doesn't seem that difficult to me no need to make the run system worse for high weight.
You can literally run forever with 84kg right now. They need to make weight matter and that's what they are doing. I hope they push it as an integrity change.
fuck the graceful changes, keep it the same but improve base regen by double and improve run time scaling by double based on agi
I think all they really have to do here is add strength into the mix and make it so high str = less affected by heavy weight.
They want to push absolute dog shit changes like this but can't even be fucked to fix the infinite run energy bug that's been in game for years and is quite literally impossible to get rid of once you've done it.
pretty sure they fixed that one now
explain what exactly is dogshit about the proposed changes that you have a problem with? I'm curious
You dont run non-stop during raids tho. You stand still, meaning you'll get that mega regen
They are trying to making higher agility lvls more effective for when you have heavier gear but I feel like once your lvl 99 it’s should be the same as it is now
Whoever proposed these run energy changes should be fired
Condor not knowing what HIIT is, is so fitting
They could bring back 'Resting' from pre eoc, maybe make a barbarian skill.
So this is an agility nerf right? Because everyone is fucked except if youre wearing no graceful with no weight then you get a whole 25% less drain rate
agility should matter, the worst skill to train should only have buffs. longer run and faster recharge regardless of weight.
making run energy drain this quickly at heavier weights is fat shaming
30% drain rate at 64kg at 1 agility, so you can run for a solid 3 seconds lmao
I personally don't have an issue with how run energy works right now. What they're proposing definitely seems pretty fucking stupid. Punishing late game gear is really dumb. However, maybe their prices might dip for a little bit so I can afford an upgrade haha.
Drains a little less with less weight. Drains way more with more weight. They want to make it so we strategize what we're wearing and be more considerate of weight as a new "strategy mechanic." I'm voting NO. Make two different polls, one for the increase in regen and the other for the increase in drain rate so I can vote yes on regen and no on drain.
gonna mess around with UIM run rates basically. not many others will notice.
If only there was some sort of skill or some sort of enchanted jewelry or piece of magical gear that lets you get around the world and near to anywhere you may possibly need to go reducing the need to “run” everywhere