People on the GO (1973)
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- Опубликовано: 31 авг 2016
- This film, produced by the Ontario Ministry of Transportation and Communications, surveys solutions for municipal transit systems for better transportation across the province.
Featured are dial-a-bus and staggered hours programs, GO trains, Toronto streetcars, and transportation innovations in European cities.
Ce film, réalisé par le ministère des Transports et des Communications de l’Ontario, étudie des solutions pour les commissions de transport municipales dans le but de favoriser de meilleurs services de transport à l’échelle de la province.
Il présente des programmes d’autobus à la demande et d’horaires décalés, des trains GO, les tramways de Toronto et des innovations au système de transport dans des villes européennes.
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This archival video does not necessarily reflect the views of the Government of Ontario today.
Cette vidéo d'archives ne représente pas nécessairement l'opinion du gouvernement de l'Ontario d'aujourd'hui.
Who among you is here, not for the MTC video itself, but to be rather a 'tourist" to the past, especially for those of us who were there at children, and can now see some remembered things as moving pictures and not just internal images, filtered through memory, time, and adult perspective?
read my mind, you just stated it much better than I could.
These were the best days of my life! It sucks being over 50 today. In 1973, I was 8 an so innocent...
You are so right my friend, I was 12.
Love the background music and voice of the announcer
I believe the narrator is Robert McNeil, a Canadian who is best known for a news program on the American PBS network.
I noticed that a lot more people used to ride a bicycle back then. Now most people drive in huge SUVs and almost nobody rides a bike.
70s, 80s and 90s are best. People were not obsessed with technology and had quality life. Also the technology was more amazing than everything digital today.
Especially those dial phones so cool
I remember taking the Dial-a-bus as a kid with my mom in the 1970's. Mom would make a call and a few minutes later it would pick you up at your house, then pick up other people at their houses, then finally go to the Bramalea City Centre.
This should come back scarborough town center needs a direct connection to Agincourt Railway Station
back when brampton was a quiet old town. Now its chaotic
Whatever happen to the dial up buses what made them discontinue it?
@@alexanderip1003 long response time and low ridership due to fixed zones.
@Brandon N York Region still has them! Called MOR, it's an excuse to cut all bus lines in an area... I belive a mix of both is needed.
So Uber for a bus. Sweet. I love how calm everyone looks on the bus then.
Love these blasts from the past. I always think about my late father being alive and in his 20s while he was living in the GTA. Awesome.
I see Dominion. It's mainly because of the meat!
The best times. I wish that I could go back.
I love the graphic design, industrial design, fashion, architecture, and film production from those days & this film sort of highlights those things indirectly. Thanks :) I'm now lookin' for a time machine
1:29 That 65 Barracuda, just a normal car back then
Great film classic music
Actually the bus at 13:24 looks pretty "modern" for 1973. I actually think it could blend in here in the year 2019
Yes, it does for sure! And it was made by GM, probably in London, ON. The Novabus brand buses we see today in so many public transit systems are almost identical. I believe Novabus began under the GM banner. Novabus is based in Quebec and is now owned by Volvo.
It was the prototype for The General Motors RTS series bus, a fairly standard bus for the United States throughout the 70' s, 80's and 90's.
Even tinted windows, that thing is amazing.
Amazing that as early as 1973 they recognized that the suburbs were horribly designed for transit and any non-car transportation in general and yet they chose to do nothing other than dial-a-bus.
It's called FREEDOM.
If people want to live out in the suburbs, they know that car ownership comes with the territory. Besides, they probably don't want to be exposed to the random freaks that can be found on most big city transit systems on a regular basis anyways..
@@MK-fc2hn It ain't really "freedom" when the car is the only option you have. Stop with the BS.
@@thetexanladd Right. Because nothing epitomizes freedom like riding on taxpayer subsidized transit. 🤣
@@MK-fc2hn who do you think pays for highways? not everyone can drive, but nearly everyone can take transit, yet tax payers who don’t drive still subsidize roads and highways. also, nothing screams “freedom” more than cars, which are literally tagged by the government with license plates, not to mention that modern cars are terrible with user privacy, and also the huge costs that come with car ownership. id argue that public transit and walkability gives you more freedom, the freedom to choose how you get around. no one is stopping you from driving, it just might be less convenient than public transit in transit oriented areas.
@@bycuritiba The key word is "transit oriented" development. I live in one myself, as a downtown resident of Montreal. However, I have to own a car.. though I would also own one by choice.. because my job is in an industrial area ill served by public transit after midnight. I can wait for a night bus.. which I've done before.. but a 22 minute drive home is preferable to a 60 to 90 minute journey, depending on if I make the bus or not. But I also have a public transit pass that I use if I am going somewhere downtown, since it provides an efficient and stress free option. So I am not against public transit at all. And I recognize that none of our infrastructure is free. It is all paid for by the productive members of society.. those who actually pay income taxes.
But here's my issue. We have personal freedom in our society. Every citizen can choose for themselves if they want to live in a centrally located transit oriented area, or in an area that is less transit friendly.. or out in the sticks if that's their cup of tea. In modern times, there are even apps that will provide walk scores and transit scores for every civic address out there. If somebody chooses to move to an area that has large lots, limited sidewalks, and limited public transit as a result, then they are exercising their personal freedom and living with the consequences. I think they should foot the bill, via their municipal taxes, for the cost of the infrastructure required to build the roads that lead to their homes, but I do not think that public money should later on be allocated to these non dense areas to provide public transit improvements.. unless they also foot the bill for it.. rather than sticking it to taxpayers as a whole. Especially when it would be cost prohibitive. Our limited resources towards mobility have to go towards both highways and public transit projects that serve denser areas where those that choose those areas can benefit from them at a much more reasonable cost to taxpayers overall.
As a truck driver, I also have an up close view of how important highways are to ALL citizens. I deliver goods and materials to factories, warehouses, stores, arenas, hospitals, prisons, and countless other facilities that EVERY citizen benefits from. So in my view, highway investments ( and arterial roads that serve all these places in addition to those non transit oriented suburbs) are just as important for society.. even if some of those citizens never drive themselves on those roads.
But even putting that aside, the majority of citizens have a preference for getting around by private automobiles. Only a small fraction of these citizens, who already opted not to live in transit oriented developments, will ever be willing or able to switch to public transit, no matter how attractive an option it becomes. So I'm always skeptical of people who want to ban non transit oriented developments in favour of "smart growth communities", or those who would kill projects to increase highway capacity. We live in a democracy and the citizens get to have their say in where our public taxes go. And the people overall have spoken.. so it wouldn't be very democratic for a minority of citizens to impose their will on the majority. That's my overall take on this issue.
15:52 I just realized that’s the same music that’d later be used in Dawn of The Dead 1978 as the mall music.
ah bill davis.... the best premiere ontario has ever seen. period.
Are you sure it wasn't Bob Rae?
Sorry, bad joke
GO transit has been an Ontario institution since May of 1967.
Can we talk about that MUSIC!
I remember seeing this in Public School way back in the day
@51 seconds he says "while this MASSIVE movement" hahahaha
Great vid.New to me.Our family lived city 1920-50 then suburban, Rexdale/Thistletown after 10 years 1960 -70. We tried everything , commuter trains,cars, buses the works.We felt you either had to live downtown or get rural,we did .To Victoria/Sidney.Everyone had a car at least.Plus motorcycles,bikes, powerboats.That's the way it went.My Toronto family today all either moved to Oakville and have a car and GO train or downtown to glass canyon streetcars.
wow it was even on film projector.
I was just thinking of that staggered work environment the other day to lessen traffic, and then this video gets recommended to me... :)
Can’t believe it was 50 years ago
this was fascinating
18:14 - We call this one "The Decapitator"!
Nobody with those stupid cellphones. lol
Love the psychedelic music too!
The Dial-A-Bus was nothing much, but a transformed Winnebago.
I miss this Brampton. Before my kind screwed it all up.
Remember Dial a Bus well in Bramalea, used it many times.
In the time I watched this video, we moved from the Gardner to Bloor st. on the DVP (Death Valley Parkway)lol! I was the passenger, so no worries about distracted driving!
Dont remember the last time I noticed and advanced green blinking light.
The buses used for dial a ride in Toronto were also tested for dial a ride in Cambridge...1 of the buses was transfered to the Cambridge Fire Department which was converted to a command post and used till the late 90s
Any more info on them or pics ? I happen to have one of the owensound one I'm wondering if it's the last
Did I see a Mercedes-Benz L-319?
4:58 oh my, the bramalea city centre back in the 70s
Keep it beautiful.
Who's playing "OH! I know where that is!"...or the equally engaging, "Holy ****!That sure has changed a lot/or hasn't changed a lot!" Who would happily take the bus if it could deliver them back to this version of Ontario? Just for fun, if you could do that, what would you bring with you? Have a good one, all :)
Ha ha I was ! Did you see the Dominion store front with the arched front? I remember those stores. Also Woolworths and Krezkies can’t spell
17:59 - GO Urban RT in 1973 would go on to be used on the Scarborough Rapid Transit (SRT) in 1985.
...and be neglected and allowed to fall into a dangerous state of disrepair, by successive Provincial and Municipal funding cuts. GO ALRT was supposed to stretch across the GTA in existing hydro corridors. It was all planned and ready to be built. Then there was a provincial election, the ruling party was defeated, and one of the first acts by the new government was to kill GO ALRT. If GO ALRT had been built, we'd have avoided the crippling gridlock and insane transit mistakes and overruns we're stuck with today.
I Could unshelve and reinstate the GO ALRT In a heartbeat (2 Services Local and Express)
Alexander Ip
Sure you could.
@@frankgarrett9500 with the ALRT Reinstated and revived Toronto would follow the examples of Megacities like
Tokyo, Osaka and Singapore (by dismantling the VIVA Buses building it right where the VIVA Buses stood and using prison labour to build it as the hard work will drive them to reflect their wrongdoing and reform them into the community)
I miss this Ontario, now it stinks. Moved to Alberta and no regrets.
wow. we have travelled a long way within transit system. now it's all technology.
A Van Hool minibus.
Where can i obtain this footage for use in a documentary?
Have to give it to Toronto good transportation. Not like Detroit . Lots of freeways that's it. Even worse now. Stay safe neighbor's to the north.
Couldn't they at least show the old Toronto streetcars going by on Gerrard St and Sumach St in Regent Park? I would of love to see my old childhood home at Gerrard and Sumach street. Bah c'est la vie!
GO Dial-a-bus was a short lived venture for GO Transit.
Any information or photos of dial a bus ? I have one
8:10 What type of BUS is that?
What song is at the end?
So, did Dial-a-bus become todays Wheel-Trans?
The narrator is 100% Canadian.
OMG 7:11 that's Jane and Finch mall wow!
Holyyy
Yuppp you can even see Driftwood if you look closely 👀
Any idea who the narrator is? Nothing in the credits--no credits really.
A converted Winnebago.
when you realize half of the people in this video are probably dead.
@@DonutsIceCreamAndCottenCandy While many of them would be in their 80s, Ontario's average life expectancy is 84. So perhaps half are dead, half are alive.
the last generation that lived a "normal" life
Don't you love the old voices of radio, see how he says (sedual) and other words. HEHE
No mention of the electric buses from Hamilton Transit
Electric trolly bus at 14:17? Is that what you meant? Or was there another electric bus?
Almost looks like the EM-50 Urban Assault Vehicle lol.
Wow.three whole people for dispatch. 🤣🤣
This is hilarious.
GO Dial a bus is what you call GO Transit in a Winnebago.
Love the 70s before pc
I dig the mini skirtswomen where wearing.
Must be the reason there were more children back then!
so did the cinematographer @6:20 apparently
Crazy how its been 52 years and the logo is still unchanged
Whoever designed that that one hit it out of the park.
@@disprogreavette8545 Indeed !
I was 18, what happened to the future? The beginning of the elete planners. No regard for cost. Now We pay.
imagine navigating random residential streets without GPS.
I wish we still tried to do new things with our public transit, it seems today that there isn't much interest in doing new things, and when there is interest under funding, political delays, and endless debates get in the way.
The old American cars
Dial-a-bus was cancelled for lack of ridership.
but now municipalities are proposing something VERY similar, "uber buses"
@@bob7332 Yep but instead of a public service with a public mandate now it's public companies padding private profits.
A few municipalities in the USA used it. There are places in the Tampa Bay suburbs that could use it.
I would petition it to revive it
That might be the case in some communities, but in communities like Bramalea, it was in operation until the start of Brampton Transit with its bigger vehicles.
Way before the Rockford Files
Y'all need to bring dial a bus back but call it Uber a bus lol 😆😂🤣
good thinking
After a PR incident between a driver and a passenger
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I hope they do and I hope someone livestreams the late night madness.
There was a lot innovation in transit in Ontario in the mid 1970s. Some successes. Some failures. Dial a Bus was ultimately eliminated and replaced with fixed routes, so I don't think it was a success. Then they tried mini-buses that were not very durable and horrible to stand on.
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So by handicapped they meant mental disabilities? Because I don’t see a lift on those buses I know it was a vary different time back then
Physical. Ontario didn't even start to take those issues seriously until 1975.
Why can't people in the 1970s pronounce Bramalea?
You talkin' about the guy @4:19? if so he says it correctly. Whatever way you are is wrong.
sweet jesus
huh I wonder how dial a bus would've faired today against Uber and Lyft
It cost 25 cents so I doubt it would have faired very well.
Brampton ontario needs Dial a Bus today 2022
I wonder what people in 1973 would think if you told them that in about 45 years, you can travel north to 7 more subway stations from Wilson Station
They would have been disappointed, they probably expected that the whole greater Toronto region was covered in metro lines.
Zazur zach 👨🏻
AND NOW WE HAVE DIAL-A-BUD 🇨🇦👍
*CANADA AND the USA ARE AT LEAST 40 YEARS BEHIND EUROPE , IN EVERY ASPECT OF EVERYDAY LIFE !!!!*
Zazur dial a bus 🚌
I think that's serious pollution there.
It's less pollution than each of those riders driving separate cars.
I had more hair.
Zazur zeppelin
Ontario was killing it back then damn. Its a shame all the people who were in their 20s at this time would grow up to be the worst generation this country has ever known. Damn Boomers ruined Ontario
Bring back fucking Dial a bus!! And what happened to GO Urban?
GO Urban transformed into GO ALRT. This was supposed to be tested on the track specifically built for GO Transit between Pickering and Oshawa (which is why they're separate from the main line track). The province instead decided to dedicate the track to heavy rail, and eventually, GO ALRT (both technologies developed on behalf of GO by Urban Transit Development Corp, a crown corp of the Province), morphed into a project designed to sell worldwide as an alternative between heavy/light rail and capacity.
The new project, called ICTS (intermediate capacity transit system) only sold to Detroit, Kuala Lumpur and Vancouver. The demonstration project for this new technology was in Scarborough. It was only supposed to operate as an experiment, replacing an actual planned streetcar line. 30 years later and after huge cost overruns, poor maintenance, public concern over driverless trains, and several derailments and accidents (especially in the early years), the demo project finally ended in 2023.
Zazur house 🏠
Zazur 5
"Densely populated urban areas", LOL in 1973 Canada's densest city was Toronto with only around 1 million people, today, thanks to unchecked immigration, counting the suburbs we have close to 8 million, and 12 million in the total GTA from Oshawa to Niagara Falls. Mannnn what i'd give to go back to being a city of 1 million, the roads would be practically empty!
I love that the solution to terrible suburban design and urban sprawl was this cockamamie scheme. 🤣
Smog every were.
Amazing how those people survived without masks and mandates
What I like best, is it didn't have morons putting their politics into everything.
I think I saw a black person.
yikes !