Mosley returned to play for The Semi Pro team in Fredericksburg VA in his 50s. Even made an important tackle on a kick return. Also an early investor in Five Guys Burgers. Absolute Legend.
A Springfield born dude like myself has seen Five Guys blossom all over the Phoenix area since 2001. I remember when they just had that little shop in downtown Springfield before I moved away for good. At 49 years old out here all these years, I'm high-fiving Mark (if I'm dared to get permission to do so). Fun fact: the first Redskins game I became aware of was the game that he beat the Giants in their Super Bowl winning season that my parents were at!
@@ShakenStirred I remember watching the opening game of that season at Philadelphia on YT a few weeks ago and the broadcast mentioned Gibbs bringing in another kicker to compete with Moseley, I don't remember the name.
Mosley was a big fan favorite, even when he fell apart in 1986 where he ended up cut we the fans were upset to see him go. Part of me would have rather lost a game with a Mosley miss than have a better kicker.
reminds me of the buffalo bills after their first super bowl loss, and the immortal wide right kick by scott norwood which might have won it. one of the most heartwarming things I've ever see was when the team got back to buffalo and the crowd started to chant "we want scott! we want scott!" until he took the podium. Talk about faith in humanity
@@ArtietheArchon Oh man thats not funny, you know he tried to kill himself after that superbowl, Bullet missed wide right (yes its a joke).. I was in the Buffalo area for that SB and the paper memes (before the internet was big) going around School and other places was a picture of Scott Norwood in Uniform pissing in a Toilet and he missed the toilet .. wide right. anyways great post I just wanted to get in my Scott Norwood jokes since I was around Bills fans at that time.
Mark Moseley--"Lazarus"---back from dead a few times. In addition to the his 1986 broadcaster-to-player morph; he was out of football for nearly two seasons in his early twenties. After going perfect in week-one for the '72 Oilers, he was cut, could not find kicking-work and went back to east Texas to install septic-tanks until he the '74 Redskins put his foot back to work until 1986.
Brings back yet another bitter reminder of Dan Snyder. That is, firing Marty Schottenheimer after rebounding very common from an 0-5 start to an 8-8 like finish. (just like Hall of famer Joe Gibbs did in his first year with the team.. thanks for hiring Steve Spurrier.. NOT! ) "Marty ball" just so happened to vindicate itself in San Diego for a while subsequently. the guy just happened to have a winning culture around him all the time wherever he went. Unlike the person who infamously misused the phrase "winning culture" Bruce Allen after yet another mediocre season in Washington
@Bigfriendly15 very good burgers. However, too expensive. I also am not a fan of the fries. And additionally, even though I'm not the type of guy to order a hot dog at a fast food restaurant, they split their hot dogs down the middle and grill them on both sides and for whatever reason, they're so good that I do order them occasionally. Just don't expect to not get all kinds of crap all over your face because the burgers are really messy. I almost never go though due to the cost
Was that the game that right before that kick Theismann had to go out and block on a busted play taking out a defender and the whole offensive line celebrated his block?
I will ALWAYS be a Redskins Fan. That said; I was a BIG Fan of Dan Fouts running that "Air Coryell" Offense. You weren't going to stop them from scoring a bunch of points. To beat them, you had to score even more than they did. Unfortunately, their Defense allowed that to happen on a regular basis! So my Redskins hired Joe Gibbs ... from the San Diego Chargers! He tried to bring that pass-happy Offense to the Redskins ... and proceeded to start 0-and-5. He then decided that his Roster was better suited to running the ball ... and that led to the birth of the Legend which we know as "The Hogs". Running the ball controlled the clock, and helped the Defense. And Gibbs' Redskins had a VERY GOOD Defense! So, while Fouts running the Air Coryell Offense scored a bunch of points and were fun to watch, Gibbs' run-first evolution of that Offense won a bunch of Super Bowls! And he didn't need a supremely talented QB like Dan Fouts to do it. Of course, when he DID have a supremely talented QB, Doug Williams & Company set a Super Bowl Record by scoring 35 points in ONE QUARTER (the 2nd) after trailing Denver 10-0 in Super Bowl XXII. But The Hogs were the key, and unknown RB Timmy Smith ran for 204 yards, which is STILL the Record for Rushing Yards in a Super Bowl. It was only fitting that The Hogs got that record back, as Marcus Allen had broken John Riggins' Super Bowl Rushing Record 4 years earlier ... in a thrashing of my beloved Redskins in Super Bowl XVIII.
What's controversial about an offsides call when he was offsides. It's like complaining you got a speeding ticket for going 1 mile over the posted speed. It's like complaining that a a receiver came down, only his pinky landed in the white. A millimeter or five yards, offsides is offsides. The D-line can clearly see the ball and even continue to move after set. Lining up in the neutral zone should never happen on either side of the ball, ever!
Looking back at it 40 years, It is really appropriate that Mark Mosley won the MVP in 1982. It was a weird season to begin with. And also Mark Mosley was the last of his kind. A straight on placekicker. Having said all that I was a big Dan Fouts fan. And still am. Because the MVP is based on the regular season he should’ve gotten the award. Quarterback was then and even more so now the most important position on a football team
Fouts played in the wrong era. Imagine if he played in the hurry up offense era, in a time where you could pass on every down. Fouts was always playing from behind. That is why he had the big passing numbers. But imagine if the team did not insist on "establishing the run" and instead let Fouts go out there like Tom Brady and pass on first down.
@@theman4884 I don’t think that Dan Fouts played in the wrong era at all. In fact guys like him, Dan Marino, and Joe Montana, laid the foundation for how football is played now on offense.
Washington that year had many games that they won almost solely because of Moseley’s Toe. In the first game against St. Louis, Washington won 12-7 on 4 field goals. 1 miss at a glance doesn’t change that result of the game.
I don't think the video made it clear, but Dan Fouts played all of the games while the rest of the players were on strike. This made him very unpopular when the striking players returned.
For anyone wondering how a kicker could win MVP, it's important to note that field goal percentages from this era were much, much lower than today. A great season was making 70-75% of your kicks, while today it's 85-90%. What Moseley accomplished was incredible for the time, and helped to win the Skins a title.
After looking at that video of the Busch Stadium turf, I'm thinking Busch needs to be on a list of the worst NFL stadiums ever (including my beloved Philadelphia Veterans Stadium).
The Moseley MVP will always be a fascinating topic because it is so ahistorical when you look at the 100+ years of the NFL. Whether it was the right choice or not (and I'm on the "not side"), I still think Moseley and the '82 MVP award should be celebrated because of how unique it is. Justin Tucker has sort of become regarded as the GOAT at the position, and I wonder if he has even received an MVP vote? He's certainly never been a serious candidate.
I was just wondering if Tucker also had ever received an MVP vote, because what's he's doing today blows away any other previous kicker's career regardless of changes in era. No way would he ever win the MVP today.
Ya gotta win games. You can be the best that ever was. But what is your value if you don't win? How can you be the league's most valuable player if you don't win playoff games?
Very proud to say I have Mosley's autographed " '82 MVP " game worn jersey on my wall. The "off field" stories of this man, are worth the MVP alone!! GO SKINS!!!
The Fouts led Chargers were almost always a great offensive spectacle. Great QB & receivers, great back in Muncie (before his coke addiction got him), great O line, great kicker in Rolf Benirschke, great coach in Coryell……..they lacked only 1 thing…..a friggin DEFENSE!
They, also, lacked, a, running game, to bleed the clock late, you can thank Gene Klein, for, those deficiencies, indifferent owners, are, just as bad, (if, not, worse), than, bad owners, simple as that.
@@matthewdaley746 They had good backs in James Brooks and Chuck Muncie…until Muncie’s cocaine addiction got him and Brooks couldn’t do it all by himself. When not a coke head, Muncie was outstanding most of the time
@@matthewdaley746 100% truth. Their defense wasn’t very good. Even if they’d only had a decent solid but not great D it probably would’ve been enough with that offense.
@@jonathonhass4178 Their only good defensive player, was, future, HOFer, Fred Dean, who would, eventually, join the 49ers, and, won, two, SBs, because, his, brother-in-law, a, garbageman, made, more, money, than, him.
I remember this. Our NFC game that day was GB @ DET. I remember them cutting to NY and Brent Musburger showing the highlight of Moseley missing, a penalty, and then the kick being made. Even as the game went back to GB the announcers were remarking about it.
I know Moseley was having a great season, but Fouts played the more important position, and was having arguably the best QB season ever up to that point. He should have been the clear-cut winner for the MVP award. At least the Pro Football Weekly publication awarded Fouts the MVP honor, and rightfully so. AP Voters were on acid in 1982. Even if you didn't want to go Fouts, you go Marcus Allen or Wes Chandler. A kicker can have some nice hallmark moments, but due to the nature of the position, they just don't play enough snaps or impact offenses as much as a QB does.
I’m calling Bullshit on your nasty rant L-Dog. Fours didn’t deserve anything. He doesn’t have a trophy case cause he’s has no trophy’s. Fouts and Jim Kelly must be brothers. Both had a good arm but never could win the big one. Moseley was the right winner of the MVP. His team won the Super Bowl in 82 which gives him more trophies and that loser Dan Fouts.
WOW, dude, that is some crazy deep insider stuff! Super impressive of you to dig that up and yeah, for sure, Dan Fouts wins MVP. Football…game of inches!
Everybody talks about Bo and Deion being great 2 sport athletes..... what about Eddie Murray?!?! Dudes switch hitting with power, playing gold glove 1st base for the Orioles while blasting 90% of his field goals for the Lions- dude was awesome....... I always thought it strange the way a football uniform lightened his skin color.... who cares about that though, he was the man in 2 sports!!!
Enjoyed this, I was 13 and a Redskins fan back then, and Mosley was my favorite player. The only thing I would disagree with, Mosley also won the MVP because of so many clutch kicks, and this one missed was irrelevant. But still, strong points you make!
If a kicker were ever to compete for another MVP award it would be Justin Tucker. Let's say he has a perfect season, making all of his kicks (with him, that's quite possible), hits about 7 or 8 game winning field goals, and 2-3 of those game winners are from 60+ yards. (We know he has a range out to 66 yards.) And let's say that no one else from any team's offense or defense did anything to stand out. Under those circumstances, I could see people pushing for Tucker to win MVP.
The Ravens, are, about to, totally, ruin their team by grossly overpaying Lamar Jackson, the only chance of that happening, even, theoretically, is the upcoming season.
@@matthewdaley746 Ah yes, the fear of losing a franchise QB strikes again. How many teams who pay QBs cap-wrecking deals ever actually win a title? As much as we despise Brady, you have to admit he "gets it" as far as taking less money so his team can win.
@@DolFan316 Yeah, because, he can afford to take, less, money, speaking of which, I, actually, think the, loss, to the Rams will prove to be, like, the, loss, that the 49ers suffered against the Packers in the 1995 Playoffs, "The, End, Of, An, Era," even if we didn't know it at the time.
@@DolFan316 Good topic for research, how many times in the salary cap era has the team with the highest paid QB won the SB? Are you better off with a top O and D line with a solid but not elite QB?
Please do a video on the retired/deceased NFL TE who had MORE career TDs than Kellen Winslow, Dave Casper, Mike Ditka, John Mackey, and Jackie Smith. All of those TEs are in the Hall of Fame, yet somehow TE Jerry Smith's career has BEEN IGNORED and he's not in the Hall. Smith even played in a Superbowl........this is a blatant snub and a tragedy. Just imagine a RB, WR, or QB who retires being the all time TD leader at their position, and somehow they never get voted into the HOF...this is the exact thing that happened to Jerry Smith. By the way, his record for TDs stood for TWENTY SIX YEARS until TE Shannon Sharpe broke it.
Bravo! One of my favorite "Skins", I carried his autograph for years. Here's another Jerry Smith fact - when he retired, he had the most catches by a TE in football! Just as C. Taylor having the most catches by a WR when he retired...
It has just become really hard to award it to any other player because of just how impactful the QB position is these days. That's reflected among the more advanced analytics where QBs tend to dwarf every other position in metrics like WAR, and among coaches, GMs and scouts where the position is always considered priority #1. I agree that it's kind of a bummer though, because it really does mean that a lot of great non-QBs are just out of consideration almost by default. Like, it is hard for me to accept that a guy like Aaron Donald hasn't won the award and almost certainly never will. He is maybe the greatest football player of his generation if you take positional value out of the question!
NFL rules need to be changed to diminish the importance of the quarterback. There’s almost no point to watching if your team does not have an elite quarterback.
Myfinest....why do you think teams tank so badly for the #1 pick in the draft? Especially, when the draft class is steaming with top tier young QBs. It's because that's the most important position in football. But I agree with you. There's position players that deserve that award over lots of QBs.
@@whoisbrucewayne17 Really? So the names Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, Johnny Manziel, Blaine Gabbert and other bust don't ring a bell. While QB is essential, some teams have won championship with a subpart Quarterback (i.e. 2002 Buccaneers, 2007 and 2011 Giants). Also, I am a Giants and I think both super bowl MVP should have gone to defensive players. Eli had really good receivers.
I remember this game, and yes, this game was very important. Me being a life long, die hard, Redskins fan, this season was very important. Back then, the league was not a pass heavy league. So you needed a team to have a great defense that could stop the run, and also defend the pass, which Washington had. For offense, you needed a great "O" line, and we had the Hogs. You needed a deep threat receiver, we had Art Monk, and of course, you needed a great running back and were had the Diesel, John Riggins. However, our secret weapon was Mark Mosley. He was consistent, and delivered the gotta have it clutch kicks. We won the St. Louis game without ever making it into the endzone. Mosley put the game away by making all 4 of his field goals, stopping the late game rally from the Cardinals. Also, since it was a strike shortened season, every game had playoff consequences. So when Mark "The Boot" Mosley had the best season in NFL History, that game put us into the lead in the division. Thus, we won our 1st Superbowl for Washington.
Perhaps, but, the only player who turned me off, more, by their, condescending/arrogant, style of speech, was, The, Late, Bob Kuechenberg, more, than, anything else, that, probably, kept him out of, the, HOF, now, that he's dead, his chances, are, raised significantly.
I enjoyed this being a follower of St. Louis Cardinals football all their seasons from 1960-1987. I did not remember this game among their best rivalry games first versus the Browns in the early to mid 1960s and then the Cowboys and Redskins. I found interesting the depiction of the poor playing surface of the stadium for football. It was a shame the separate St. Louis City and Couny governments fought over the location of a new football stadium resulting in no stadium so owner Bill Bidwell took off for Arizona thinking they would right away build him a new stadium but it took 18 years for funding so they played in a college footballe stadium.
My dad Repossessed Moseleys BMW in 88..Anyways he broke the consecutive record vs giants at rfk in the snow..He kicked 4 field goals in a 12-7 win at St louis
2:38 actually you really hear who was the best QB to never win a Super Bowl and it’s usually said that Dan Marino was the best to never win. I have very rarely ever heard anyone ask the best QB never to make it to a Super Bowl.
Yeah I thought he mentioned the QB to never go to a Super bowl. Marino lost to the greatest single season team ever. The 84 /85 49ers went 15 and 1 and finished 2nd in total offense and defense. They finished 2nd to the Marino 48 tds thrown Dolphins and 2nd to the Buddy Ryan 72 sack record setting Bears defense. Also they were a missed field goal from going perfect that year.
Sonny Jurgensen is the best QB never to make it to a Super Bowl. He and Marino also followed similar paths with little ground games, poor D's and ball control-minded coaches coming to them late in their careers.
Sorry but this is only a story if you've got footage showing that the penalty call was wrong. The NFL don't want you to 'forget' this kick, as soon as the flag hit the deck the kick never happened. And your comment implying it shouldn't have been called because it was only inches offside rather than 5 yards was laughable. There's been infinitely more important things than an MVP award decided on far more marginal or downright wrong calls than this.
I was about to put “LEGacy” in my comment and coulda won the MVP but you beat me by one day. Since this is about the Redskins, I for sure woulda won MVP but this whole thing is MOSEtLey RIGGINS.
I'd like to see a current kicker break out the pendulum swing one time. The soccer style is so ingrained, they'd probably trip over themselves attempting it.
NFL wanted him to set the record so there was a phantom penalty. The NFL treated St. Louis consistently unfairly to the point that there is no NFL in STL now. NFL thinks Bidwill is a schmuck and acted accordingly.
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about another Cardinals-TFKAR game in which Washington lost due to two defensive penalties they committed.
Dan Fouts should have won the MVP, even with Moseley's record, but 1982 was such a strange and weird season that it made sense for Mark Moseley to be the 1982 NFL MVP.
@@matthewdaley746 The irony is the in the playoffs Moseley was 4 for 8 on FGs. But a title is a title 😎Riggins was the other way around, awful that season (3.1 yards per carry) and then historically dominant in the playoffs.
@@DolFan316 Yeah, SB 17, wasn't, nearly, as close as the score, a pair of gaffes by Washington, led to fourteen points, once Kim Bokamper couldn't get the backbreaking, TD, the Dolphins, were, finished, blood simple.
Great video! It reminds me of Gary Anderson (I'm a Viking fan), but the opposite. He went 35-35 (fg) and 59-59 (epa) for the '98 season. Sadly, he'll be remembered for his only miss against the Falcons in the NFC championship. Even if he had made that kick I seriously doubt he would have been the MVP even if the Vikings would have won the Super Bowl, unless... You're totally correct. I can't see another kicker ever winning the MVP.
Look at it this way, because, of him, people forget that Dennis Green coached scared throughout that Game, they wouldn't have, beaten, the Broncos, anyway, they couldn't stop the run, at all.
Having Randall take knee to give up and go to overtime was was ridiculous. And it was 3rd and about 3 to go. Not 3rd and long. The most high powered offense at that time and you give up at 3rd and 3.
Vikings fan also. I think this is the season where the Vikings played the Redskins in the playoffs and J Rigges pretty much beat the Vikings himself. Also here’s a “Cliff Claven little known fact.” In that playoff game the two place kickers were Mosely and a lesser known kicker named Rick Danmeier, who was also a straight kicker. They were the last two straight kickers in the nfl. So that was the last time anyone saw two straight kickers in the same game.
Have you ever seen a Mountain Hillbilly? They have legs up to their armpits because they walk up and down hills all day. Take a roided up mountain man and turn him into a kicker that can comfortably knock down 60 yard kicks and up to 75+.
Ummm, changed the " whole 82 season/nfl history?" Nope. Fouts wins mvp, sure. Most people looked at it that way anyway. These videos tend to over dramatize the reality; but DO provide slivers of forgotten history, which I like. A clutch kicker with a high percentage was key to their season, but that's a different argument (his presence or not, not 1 play). Still think one motion doesn't compete with the overall athleticism and defense reading a qb must have. * Yes, we can be technical and call the change in vote a change in history, but that's not really what we're saying here.
Mark Mosley was later central to the franchise development of 5 guys burger restaurants . If his MVP helped him in this endeavour , then thank god for that penalty !
Agree that Fouts deserved the MVP in spite of Mosley's mark. Did not realize Mosley had a missed kick canceled by a penalty. Since a kicker having an issue with a baseball infield was mentioned... In 2003, Dolphins kicker Orlindo Mare missed two game winning field goals in October against New England due to issues with the dirt infield and shortly after the second one, the Patriots completed a long TD pass to win in OT. The only reason the dirt infield was still there was due to the Florida Marlins beating the Cubs in the NLCS and was in the World Series. The game was the third of the Patriots NFL record 21 wins in a row and had they lost, would have put them 1 1/2 games behind the Dolphins. This sounds like something the channel should cover.
Little Joe Washington was an underrated player. Everyone said he was good but yet he is never mentioned as one of the truly greats. He was something special on the football field.
@@Boomhower89 he called every small guy a little monkey. They have plenty of examples. But “he should have known better”. Maybe if he were around today he’d know better, but cut the dude some slack.
@@zippitydoodads9947 agree. They said that is how he talked around his grandchildren so it naturally slipped out. He was very intelligent and wise in the ways of the world, makes me wonder if he had hit the scotch a little to much once again. He had a long history of that. Shame either way. Ish Dallas had gotten Joe Washington.
What if he didnt miss 4 field goals vs San francisco 49ers in 83 nfc championship ..They never would hav cried about the defensive holding on ronnie lott..Who was covering Charlie brown. That set up the game winner 24-21
The worst MVP in NFL history, completely ridiculous. The guy missed 3 extra points. Fouts, Ken Anderson (led NFL in comp % by 7 points!), Marcus Allen (over 1,000 total yards and 14 tds in 9 games), and Everson Walls (7 Ints) were more deserving (along with probably 30 other guys.) Adjusted for a 16 game season Fouts had 5125 yards and 30 touchdowns, Allen had 1952 yards and 25 touchdowns, and Walls had 12 interceptions.
I have been saying this since the day Moseley won his MVP.. He won it because the sportswriters who voted for him were making a statement to players and owners about the strike. They made the season a joke, so the writers made the MVP a joke.
Do the patreon videos have ads? Because I’ll subscribe to get rid of the ads. You had 12 ad breaks in the first 13 minutes of this video. That’s way too much and it takes me out of the stories
Looking at this footage... Does Moseley's right leg look padded just slightly more than the other... Was that a tactic kickers used to weigh thier leg to gain distance... I wonder
Mosley returned to play for The Semi Pro team in Fredericksburg VA in his 50s. Even made an important tackle on a kick return. Also an early investor in Five Guys Burgers. Absolute Legend.
I remember the Fredericksburg generals
Now, THAT'S a guy who loves the game! Good on him!
A Springfield born dude like myself has seen Five Guys blossom all over the Phoenix area since 2001. I remember when they just had that little shop in downtown Springfield before I moved away for good. At 49 years old out here all these years, I'm high-fiving Mark (if I'm dared to get permission to do so).
Fun fact: the first Redskins game I became aware of was the game that he beat the Giants in their Super Bowl winning season that my parents were at!
Gibbs was on the edge of cutting Moseley prior to the beginning of the '82 season, sometimes the best moves are the ones you don't make.
So true
Gibbs just loved the Redskins the way he got 'em.
Do you recall who Gibbs cut in favor of Mark Moseley?
@@ShakenStirred I remember watching the opening game of that season at Philadelphia on YT a few weeks ago and the broadcast mentioned Gibbs bringing in another kicker to compete with Moseley, I don't remember the name.
Dan Miller was the kicker brought in to challenge Moseley.
As a Cowboys fan, Mosley was one of those opponents who definitely had my respect. Great FG kicker.
Cowboys let’s go
Back when men wore one bar facemasks
8:10 To be fair, expecting Neal O'Donoghue to be accurate at any range beyond 11 yards is complete tomfoolery....
Mosley was a big fan favorite, even when he fell apart in 1986 where he ended up cut we the fans were upset to see him go. Part of me would have rather lost a game with a Mosley miss than have a better kicker.
Me too and although I liked Steve Cox I hated to see Jeff Hayes go.
By the way John, I wish I knew where Jaguargator gets his footage. It's so clear. I wish I had access.
reminds me of the buffalo bills after their first super bowl loss, and the immortal wide right kick by scott norwood which might have won it. one of the most heartwarming things I've ever see was when the team got back to buffalo and the crowd started to chant "we want scott! we want scott!" until he took the podium. Talk about faith in humanity
@@ArtietheArchon Oh man thats not funny, you know he tried to kill himself after that superbowl, Bullet missed wide right (yes its a joke).. I was in the Buffalo area for that SB and the paper memes (before the internet was big) going around School and other places was a picture of Scott Norwood in Uniform pissing in a Toilet and he missed the toilet .. wide right. anyways great post I just wanted to get in my Scott Norwood jokes since I was around Bills fans at that time.
@@johnliberty3647 damn that's cold. but expected
Mark Moseley--"Lazarus"---back from dead a few times. In addition to the his 1986 broadcaster-to-player morph; he was out of football for nearly two seasons in his early twenties. After going perfect in week-one for the '72 Oilers, he was cut, could not find kicking-work and went back to east Texas to install septic-tanks until he the '74 Redskins put his foot back to work until 1986.
Brings back yet another bitter reminder of Dan Snyder. That is, firing Marty Schottenheimer after rebounding very common from an 0-5 start to an 8-8 like finish. (just like Hall of famer Joe Gibbs did in his first year with the team.. thanks for hiring Steve Spurrier.. NOT! )
"Marty ball" just so happened to vindicate itself in San Diego for a while subsequently. the guy just happened to have a winning culture around him all the time wherever he went. Unlike the person who infamously misused the phrase "winning culture" Bruce Allen after yet another mediocre season in Washington
Wow.
@Bigfriendly15 Nope; Moseley is director of franchising for Five Guys Burgers.
@Bigfriendly15 very good burgers. However, too expensive. I also am not a fan of the fries. And additionally, even though I'm not the type of guy to order a hot dog at a fast food restaurant, they split their hot dogs down the middle and grill them on both sides and for whatever reason, they're so good that I do order them occasionally. Just don't expect to not get all kinds of crap all over your face because the burgers are really messy. I almost never go though due to the cost
I was at that game at old RFK stadium back in late1982 when Mark Mosely kicked that game-winning field goal against the New York Giants! Amazing!
Was that the game that right before that kick Theismann had to go out and block on a busted play taking out a defender and the whole offensive line celebrated his block?
@@leogetz3570 Yep.
@@southlake631 awesome!!
Me, too. I was nine years old. I remember being so cold... I couldn't feel my feet.
What an experience!
I was station in Germany then,I listen to the game on AFRN radio station I remember that kick
Thank you for providing consistently entertaining episodes.
I will ALWAYS be a Redskins Fan. That said; I was a BIG Fan of Dan Fouts running that "Air Coryell" Offense. You weren't going to stop them from scoring a bunch of points. To beat them, you had to score even more than they did. Unfortunately, their Defense allowed that to happen on a regular basis!
So my Redskins hired Joe Gibbs ... from the San Diego Chargers! He tried to bring that pass-happy Offense to the Redskins ... and proceeded to start 0-and-5. He then decided that his Roster was better suited to running the ball ... and that led to the birth of the Legend which we know as "The Hogs".
Running the ball controlled the clock, and helped the Defense. And Gibbs' Redskins had a VERY GOOD Defense!
So, while Fouts running the Air Coryell Offense scored a bunch of points and were fun to watch, Gibbs' run-first evolution of that Offense won a bunch of Super Bowls! And he didn't need a supremely talented QB like Dan Fouts to do it.
Of course, when he DID have a supremely talented QB, Doug Williams & Company set a Super Bowl Record by scoring 35 points in ONE QUARTER (the 2nd) after trailing Denver 10-0 in Super Bowl XXII. But The Hogs were the key, and unknown RB Timmy Smith ran for 204 yards, which is STILL the Record for Rushing Yards in a Super Bowl. It was only fitting that The Hogs got that record back, as Marcus Allen had broken John Riggins' Super Bowl Rushing Record 4 years earlier ... in a thrashing of my beloved Redskins in Super Bowl XVIII.
What's controversial about an offsides call when he was offsides. It's like complaining you got a speeding ticket for going 1 mile over the posted speed. It's like complaining that a a receiver came down, only his pinky landed in the white. A millimeter or five yards, offsides is offsides. The D-line can clearly see the ball and even continue to move after set. Lining up in the neutral zone should never happen on either side of the ball, ever!
Looking back at it 40 years, It is really appropriate that Mark Mosley won the MVP in 1982. It was a weird season to begin with. And also Mark Mosley was the last of his kind. A straight on placekicker.
Having said all that I was a big Dan Fouts fan. And still am. Because the MVP is based on the regular season he should’ve gotten the award. Quarterback was then and even more so now the most important position on a football team
Yea, Fouts should have won
Fouts played in the wrong era. Imagine if he played in the hurry up offense era, in a time where you could pass on every down. Fouts was always playing from behind. That is why he had the big passing numbers. But imagine if the team did not insist on "establishing the run" and instead let Fouts go out there like Tom Brady and pass on first down.
@@theman4884 I don’t think that Dan Fouts played in the wrong era at all. In fact guys like him, Dan Marino, and Joe Montana, laid the foundation for how football is played now on offense.
Washington that year had many games that they won almost solely because of Moseley’s Toe.
In the first game against St. Louis, Washington won 12-7 on 4 field goals. 1 miss at a glance doesn’t change that result of the game.
except it could have let the cards be a little closer to a td on a miss than a kickoff. find out where they got the ball on the ensuing kickoff.
Moseley is an MVP to anyone who likes to eat. He's responsible for Five Guys becoming a national franchise.
I don't think the video made it clear, but Dan Fouts played all of the games while the rest of the players were on strike. This made him very unpopular when the striking players returned.
That kick he missed was in the end zone in Center field, some 50 yards plus from the pitcher's mound.
I grew up a Redskins fan and remember this. We called Mark Moseley "Mr. Automatic". I still cannot believe that he won over Fouts.
IKR
For anyone wondering how a kicker could win MVP, it's important to note that field goal percentages from this era were much, much lower than today. A great season was making 70-75% of your kicks, while today it's 85-90%. What Moseley accomplished was incredible for the time, and helped to win the Skins a title.
I was 9 at the time and I understood this.
I was 2 years old at the time and not ONLY understood THIS but I could ALSO ACCURATELY do a QUARTERBACK rating.
@@chadwickwhite6107 I can tell you a Quarterback rating.....IF he spikes the ball into the ground on every play!
@@chadwickwhite6107 Hats off to you man, you're a prodigy, as most people at age 2 are just terrible.
@@DolFan316 I was also 9
I was an old school straight-on kicker with a square toe shoe. Always enjoyed watching Mosely even though I despised Washington.
I swear 1982 is a treasure trove for you.
After looking at that video of the Busch Stadium turf, I'm thinking Busch needs to be on a list of the worst NFL stadiums ever (including my beloved Philadelphia Veterans Stadium).
Cardinals, most-wretched, football, name.
The Moseley MVP will always be a fascinating topic because it is so ahistorical when you look at the 100+ years of the NFL. Whether it was the right choice or not (and I'm on the "not side"), I still think Moseley and the '82 MVP award should be celebrated because of how unique it is. Justin Tucker has sort of become regarded as the GOAT at the position, and I wonder if he has even received an MVP vote? He's certainly never been a serious candidate.
I was just wondering if Tucker also had ever received an MVP vote, because what's he's doing today blows away any other previous kicker's career regardless of changes in era. No way would he ever win the MVP today.
Ya gotta win games. You can be the best that ever was. But what is your value if you don't win? How can you be the league's most valuable player if you don't win playoff games?
Very proud to say I have Mosley's autographed " '82 MVP " game worn jersey on my wall. The "off field" stories of this man, are worth the MVP alone!! GO SKINS!!!
If "ifs and buts" were candies and nuts, oh what a party we'd have! :D
The Fouts led Chargers were almost always a great offensive spectacle. Great QB & receivers, great back in Muncie (before his coke addiction got him), great O line, great kicker in Rolf Benirschke, great coach in Coryell……..they lacked only 1 thing…..a friggin DEFENSE!
They, also, lacked, a, running game, to bleed the clock late, you can thank Gene Klein, for, those deficiencies, indifferent owners, are, just as bad, (if, not, worse), than, bad owners, simple as that.
@@matthewdaley746 They had good backs in James Brooks and Chuck Muncie…until Muncie’s cocaine addiction got him and Brooks couldn’t do it all by himself. When not a coke head, Muncie was outstanding most of the time
@@jonathonhass4178 No defense, absolutely destructive.
@@matthewdaley746 100% truth. Their defense wasn’t very good. Even if they’d only had a decent solid but not great D it probably would’ve been enough with that offense.
@@jonathonhass4178 Their only good defensive player, was, future, HOFer, Fred Dean, who would, eventually, join the 49ers, and, won, two, SBs, because, his, brother-in-law, a, garbageman, made, more, money, than, him.
Wes Chandler and Dwight Clark were also MVP Candidates in 1982.
I remember this. Our NFC game that day was GB @ DET. I remember them cutting to NY and Brent Musburger showing the highlight of Moseley missing, a penalty, and then the kick being made. Even as the game went back to GB the announcers were remarking about it.
1982 Man. Crazy year
you're my favorite content creator on youtube. Your videos are original and awesome. Your knowledge is top notch.
If the opposing team is off (📴) sides, then there's nothing controversial about this game (🎮🎯).
I know Moseley was having a great season, but Fouts played the more important position, and was having arguably the best QB season ever up to that point. He should have been the clear-cut winner for the MVP award. At least the Pro Football Weekly publication awarded Fouts the MVP honor, and rightfully so. AP Voters were on acid in 1982. Even if you didn't want to go Fouts, you go Marcus Allen or Wes Chandler. A kicker can have some nice hallmark moments, but due to the nature of the position, they just don't play enough snaps or impact offenses as much as a QB does.
I’m calling Bullshit on your nasty rant L-Dog. Fours didn’t deserve anything. He doesn’t have a trophy case cause he’s has no trophy’s. Fouts and Jim Kelly must be brothers. Both had a good arm but never could win the big one. Moseley was the right winner of the MVP. His team won the Super Bowl in 82 which gives him more trophies and that loser Dan Fouts.
The redskins 1982 logo, was used for just that season
Damn, I had to look that up. Yeah, it appears slightly different for just that one year, never noticed that!!
WOW, dude, that is some crazy deep insider stuff! Super impressive of you to dig that up and yeah, for sure, Dan Fouts wins MVP. Football…game of inches!
I missed the days of the straight-on kicker they at least gave you a false since of security that they would make it 100% of the time.
Everybody talks about Bo and Deion being great 2 sport athletes..... what about Eddie Murray?!?! Dudes switch hitting with power, playing gold glove 1st base for the Orioles while blasting 90% of his field goals for the Lions- dude was awesome....... I always thought it strange the way a football uniform lightened his skin color.... who cares about that though, he was the man in 2 sports!!!
I thought he just wore blackface when playing for Baltimore.
Hail to the Redskins. Man those were some great times.
Enjoyed this, I was 13 and a Redskins fan back then, and Mosley was my favorite player. The only thing I would disagree with, Mosley also won the MVP because of so many clutch kicks, and this one missed was irrelevant. But still, strong points you make!
If a kicker were ever to compete for another MVP award it would be Justin Tucker. Let's say he has a perfect season, making all of his kicks (with him, that's quite possible), hits about 7 or 8 game winning field goals, and 2-3 of those game winners are from 60+ yards. (We know he has a range out to 66 yards.) And let's say that no one else from any team's offense or defense did anything to stand out. Under those circumstances, I could see people pushing for Tucker to win MVP.
The Ravens, are, about to, totally, ruin their team by grossly overpaying Lamar Jackson, the only chance of that happening, even, theoretically, is the upcoming season.
@@matthewdaley746 Ah yes, the fear of losing a franchise QB strikes again. How many teams who pay QBs cap-wrecking deals ever actually win a title? As much as we despise Brady, you have to admit he "gets it" as far as taking less money so his team can win.
@@DolFan316 Yeah, because, he can afford to take, less, money, speaking of which, I, actually, think the, loss, to the Rams will prove to be, like, the, loss, that the 49ers suffered against the Packers in the 1995 Playoffs, "The, End, Of, An, Era," even if we didn't know it at the time.
@@DolFan316 Good topic for research, how many times in the salary cap era has the team with the highest paid QB won the SB? Are you better off with a top O and D line with a solid but not elite QB?
@@KevinT7274 It's, probably, exceptionally, rare.
You sure do find some obscure football trivia.
Wow, this video could have been 45 seconds.
Please do a video on the retired/deceased NFL TE who had MORE career TDs than Kellen Winslow, Dave Casper, Mike Ditka, John Mackey, and Jackie Smith. All of those TEs are in the Hall of Fame, yet somehow TE Jerry Smith's career has BEEN IGNORED and he's not in the Hall. Smith even played in a Superbowl........this is a blatant snub and a tragedy. Just imagine a RB, WR, or QB who retires being the all time TD leader at their position, and somehow they never get voted into the HOF...this is the exact thing that happened to Jerry Smith. By the way, his record for TDs stood for TWENTY SIX YEARS until TE Shannon Sharpe broke it.
Non-Football, "reasons," likely, responsible.
@@matthewdaley746 We may definitely need a video about all of that.
@@chaosgreyblood Truly, impossible, sadly, negative.
Bravo! One of my favorite "Skins", I carried his autograph for years.
Here's another Jerry Smith fact - when he retired, he had the most catches by a TE in football! Just as C. Taylor having the most catches by a WR when he retired...
@@matthewdaley746 Yes, he admittedly died of aids/gay..
You should do a deep dive into Dan Fouts 1982 season and whether or he got snubbed for MVP
He kinda just did
@@pointman913 not really i meant from Fouts perspective. What did his stats look like specifically
1982 was a forgettable NFL season
The NFL MVP has become a "who's the best QB award". There has been countless position players like WR, RB, LB and DB that deserve the award.
It has just become really hard to award it to any other player because of just how impactful the QB position is these days. That's reflected among the more advanced analytics where QBs tend to dwarf every other position in metrics like WAR, and among coaches, GMs and scouts where the position is always considered priority #1. I agree that it's kind of a bummer though, because it really does mean that a lot of great non-QBs are just out of consideration almost by default. Like, it is hard for me to accept that a guy like Aaron Donald hasn't won the award and almost certainly never will. He is maybe the greatest football player of his generation if you take positional value out of the question!
NFL is rigged.
NFL rules need to be changed to diminish the importance of the quarterback. There’s almost no point to watching if your team does not have an elite quarterback.
Myfinest....why do you think teams tank so badly for the #1 pick in the draft? Especially, when the draft class is steaming with top tier young QBs. It's because that's the most important position in football. But I agree with you. There's position players that deserve that award over lots of QBs.
@@whoisbrucewayne17 Really? So the names Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, Johnny Manziel, Blaine Gabbert and other bust don't ring a bell. While QB is essential, some teams have won championship with a subpart Quarterback (i.e. 2002 Buccaneers, 2007 and 2011 Giants).
Also, I am a Giants and I think both super bowl MVP should have gone to defensive players. Eli had really good receivers.
I remember this game, and yes, this game was very important. Me being a life long, die hard, Redskins fan, this season was very important. Back then, the league was not a pass heavy league. So you needed a team to have a great defense that could stop the run, and also defend the pass, which Washington had. For offense, you needed a great "O" line, and we had the Hogs. You needed a deep threat receiver, we had Art Monk, and of course, you needed a great running back and were had the Diesel, John Riggins. However, our secret weapon was Mark Mosley. He was consistent, and delivered the gotta have it clutch kicks. We won the St. Louis game without ever making it into the endzone. Mosley put the game away by making all 4 of his field goals, stopping the late game rally from the Cardinals. Also, since it was a strike shortened season, every game had playoff consequences. So when Mark "The Boot" Mosley had the best season in NFL History, that game put us into the lead in the division. Thus, we won our 1st Superbowl for Washington.
Monk was a possession receiver the deep threat was Charlie Brown.
Click bait. Sure, it possibly changed the MVP award, but it DID NOT TRANSFORM the history of the NFL, as the title of your video suggests.
I hope that Dan Fouts doesn't see this video. It would absolutely devastate him.
Perhaps, but, the only player who turned me off, more, by their, condescending/arrogant, style of speech, was, The, Late, Bob Kuechenberg, more, than, anything else, that, probably, kept him out of, the, HOF, now, that he's dead, his chances, are, raised significantly.
I enjoyed this being a follower of St. Louis Cardinals football all their seasons from 1960-1987. I did not remember this game among their best rivalry games first versus the Browns in the early to mid 1960s and then the Cowboys and Redskins. I found interesting the depiction of the poor playing surface of the stadium for football. It was a shame the separate St. Louis City and Couny governments fought over the location of a new football stadium resulting in no stadium so owner Bill Bidwell took off for Arizona thinking they would right away build him a new stadium but it took 18 years for funding so they played in a college footballe stadium.
Very good episode
Missed a kick, penalty gave him a second chance. Won MVP. Skip to 11 minutes in. You're welcome
Neil O’Donoghue what a memory
How do you even find some of these stories?
Took a lot of time to tell us of a play that didn’t count. How about telling us a story of one of Manning’s Int’s that didn’t count because of PI?
My dad Repossessed Moseleys BMW in 88..Anyways he broke the consecutive record vs giants at rfk in the snow..He kicked 4 field goals in a 12-7 win at St louis
I hated those Redskins helmets with the rounded feathers!!
2:38 actually you really hear who was the best QB to never win a Super Bowl and it’s usually said that Dan Marino was the best to never win. I have very rarely ever heard anyone ask the best QB never to make it to a Super Bowl.
Yeah I thought he mentioned the QB to never go to a Super bowl. Marino lost to the greatest single season team ever. The 84 /85 49ers went 15 and 1 and finished 2nd in total offense and defense. They finished 2nd to the Marino 48 tds thrown Dolphins and 2nd to the Buddy Ryan 72 sack record setting Bears defense. Also they were a missed field goal from going perfect that year.
Sonny Jurgensen is the best QB never to make it to a Super Bowl. He and Marino also followed similar paths with little ground games, poor D's and ball control-minded coaches coming to them late in their careers.
Sorry but this is only a story if you've got footage showing that the penalty call was wrong. The NFL don't want you to 'forget' this kick, as soon as the flag hit the deck the kick never happened. And your comment implying it shouldn't have been called because it was only inches offside rather than 5 yards was laughable. There's been infinitely more important things than an MVP award decided on far more marginal or downright wrong calls than this.
Was that an intentional pun when you talked about Mosley's LEGacy?
I was about to put “LEGacy” in my comment and coulda won the MVP but you beat me by one day.
Since this is about the Redskins, I for sure woulda won MVP but this whole thing is MOSEtLey RIGGINS.
@@johndannenbrink7590 are you Foutstrated?
It might have determined the MVP during that freak year, but it hardly changed NFL history.
One of the last straight on kickers!
I believe he actually was the last.
I'd like to see a current kicker break out the pendulum swing one time. The soccer style is so ingrained, they'd probably trip over themselves attempting it.
NFL wanted him to set the record so there was a phantom penalty. The NFL treated St. Louis consistently unfairly to the point that there is no NFL in STL now. NFL thinks Bidwill is a schmuck and acted accordingly.
My man's talking about Dan Foust numbers n I can't help but feel for his Receivers running all those 5000 possible yards
😂
Regarding the condition of the field in Busch Stadium and the baseball mound covered, who won the 1982 World Series?
Baseball was still on
Baseball was not on in December
Cardinals, before, they stupidly dumped Keith Hernandez, he, later, became part of, another, Dynasty, Of, One, with, The, 1986 Mets, truly idiotic.
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 It's, fortunate, it, wasn't.
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 I thought I heard September. My bad
@@matthewdaley746 definitely a steal for the Mets there
"If If's and But's Were Candies and Nut's We'd All Have A Merry Christmas"
Great video. Really interested in anything concerning 'the butterfly effect'
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about another Cardinals-TFKAR game in which Washington lost due to two defensive penalties they committed.
Notice how he lines up directly behind the holder. No one does that today.
Dan Fouts should have won the MVP, even with Moseley's record, but 1982 was such a strange and weird season that it made sense for Mark Moseley to be the 1982 NFL MVP.
Fortunately, won, a, Championship.
All the Fouts fanbois should be glad he didn't win since he got murked VS my team in the playoffs which would've made it like a joke.
@@matthewdaley746 The irony is the in the playoffs Moseley was 4 for 8 on FGs. But a title is a title 😎Riggins was the other way around, awful that season (3.1 yards per carry) and then historically dominant in the playoffs.
@@DolFan316 Revenge, for, 1981, unquestionably.
@@DolFan316 Yeah, SB 17, wasn't, nearly, as close as the score, a pair of gaffes by Washington, led to fourteen points, once Kim Bokamper couldn't get the backbreaking, TD, the Dolphins, were, finished, blood simple.
A toe-basher 😂. Nobody kicks like that anymore.
Great video! It reminds me of Gary Anderson (I'm a Viking fan), but the opposite. He went 35-35 (fg) and 59-59 (epa) for the '98 season. Sadly, he'll be remembered for his only miss against the Falcons in the NFC championship. Even if he had made that kick I seriously doubt he would have been the MVP even if the Vikings would have won the Super Bowl, unless...
You're totally correct. I can't see another kicker ever winning the MVP.
Look at it this way, because, of him, people forget that Dennis Green coached scared throughout that Game, they wouldn't have, beaten, the Broncos, anyway, they couldn't stop the run, at all.
Having Randall take knee to give up and go to overtime was was ridiculous. And it was 3rd and about 3 to go. Not 3rd and long. The most high powered offense at that time and you give up at 3rd and 3.
Vikings fan also. I think this is the season where the Vikings played the Redskins in the playoffs and J Rigges pretty much beat the Vikings himself.
Also here’s a “Cliff Claven little known fact.” In that playoff game the two place kickers were Mosely and a lesser known kicker named Rick Danmeier, who was also a straight kicker. They were the last two straight kickers in the nfl. So that was the last time anyone saw two straight kickers in the same game.
Have you ever seen a Mountain Hillbilly? They have legs up to their armpits because they walk up and down hills all day. Take a roided up mountain man and turn him into a kicker that can comfortably knock down 60 yard kicks and up to 75+.
Ummm, changed the " whole 82 season/nfl history?" Nope. Fouts wins mvp, sure. Most people looked at it that way anyway. These videos tend to over dramatize the reality; but DO provide slivers of forgotten history, which I like. A clutch kicker with a high percentage was key to their season, but that's a different argument (his presence or not, not 1 play). Still think one motion doesn't compete with the overall athleticism and defense reading a qb must have.
* Yes, we can be technical and call the change in vote a change in history, but that's not really what we're saying here.
Mark Mosley was later central to the franchise development of 5 guys burger restaurants . If his MVP helped him in this endeavour , then thank god for that penalty !
Nice, but this could have been half this length.
Fouts should have won MVP either way. Kickers should never win the award.
Growing up, Fouts was my dude!!!
I hated Fouts for obvious reasons back then, but now I like him for standing up to the hypocrisy and absurdity that was and still is the NFLPA.
It appears that Moseley is the last place kicker to use the straight on method.
Agree that Fouts deserved the MVP in spite of Mosley's mark. Did not realize Mosley had a missed kick canceled by a penalty.
Since a kicker having an issue with a baseball infield was mentioned... In 2003, Dolphins kicker Orlindo Mare missed two game winning field goals in October against New England due to issues with the dirt infield and shortly after the second one, the Patriots completed a long TD pass to win in OT.
The only reason the dirt infield was still there was due to the Florida Marlins beating the Cubs in the NLCS and was in the World Series.
The game was the third of the Patriots NFL record 21 wins in a row and had they lost, would have put them 1 1/2 games behind the Dolphins. This sounds like something the channel should cover.
Holy God get an editor would you.
I miss the Redskins.
9:13; I think you meant December.
1982, Champion, Cardinals, definitely.
"The entire history of the NFL was changed"? Isn't that more than a slight exaggeration?
OJG9 is in law school, he's just getting a head start on exaggerating for a living 😋
Little Joe Washington was an underrated player. Everyone said he was good but yet he is never mentioned as one of the truly greats. He was something special on the football field.
“Look at that little monkey go!” - Howard Cosell
@@zippitydoodads9947 yeah we lost one of the best announcers due to that false racist comment. Cosell was many things but racist wasn’t one of them.
@@Boomhower89 he called every small guy a little monkey. They have plenty of examples. But “he should have known better”. Maybe if he were around today he’d know better, but cut the dude some slack.
@@zippitydoodads9947 agree. They said that is how he talked around his grandchildren so it naturally slipped out. He was very intelligent and wise in the ways of the world, makes me wonder if he had hit the scotch a little to much once again. He had a long history of that. Shame either way. Ish Dallas had gotten Joe Washington.
What if he didnt miss 4 field goals vs San francisco 49ers in 83 nfc championship ..They never would hav cried about the defensive holding on ronnie lott..Who was covering Charlie brown. That set up the game winner 24-21
He was the last of the stright kicker in nfl
It's so weird seeing a straight-on kicker. I know this use to be the norm, but it just looks so weird now seeing it used.
Frankly, Wes Chandler could easily have been MVP, as well. He had over 1,000 receiving in just 9 games.
The worst MVP in NFL history, completely ridiculous. The guy missed 3 extra points. Fouts, Ken Anderson (led NFL in comp % by 7 points!), Marcus Allen (over 1,000 total yards and 14 tds in 9 games), and Everson Walls (7 Ints) were more deserving (along with probably 30 other guys.)
Adjusted for a 16 game season Fouts had 5125 yards and 30 touchdowns, Allen had 1952 yards and 25 touchdowns, and Walls had 12 interceptions.
Came here to say this, you are exactly right!
Marcus Allen also led the league in scoring that year, which typically kickers do.
Don't forget Wes Chandler. 1,032 Receiving yards.
people have no idea how much football has changed in 40 years even for kickers.
I have been saying this since the day Moseley won his MVP.. He won it because the sportswriters who voted for him were making a statement to players and owners about the strike. They made the season a joke, so the writers made the MVP a joke.
Oh noes, someone gets the recognition the deserve! What is to be done?
7:06 Wow, the holder got filthy
Another video mentions how another penalty helped the Chargers beat the Eagles in 1989.
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Are you in the faculty lounge yet? If not, welcome!
@@CTubeMan I think you gave the invite a couple of weeks ago, thanks.
@@toddbiesel4288 You’re welcome, I sometimes lose track.
I a shortened season the sample size is so small that it's a bit meaningless.
Are you sure you aren't Bryant Gumble?
Do the patreon videos have ads? Because I’ll subscribe to get rid of the ads. You had 12 ad breaks in the first 13 minutes of this video. That’s way too much and it takes me out of the stories
Looking at this footage... Does Moseley's right leg look padded just slightly more than the other... Was that a tactic kickers used to weigh thier leg to gain distance... I wonder
Moseley wore like five pairs of socks on his kicking leg
Moseley wore like five pairs of socks on his kicking leg
If every bad call against the Redskins had been over turned they would be undefeated until today
Eddie Murray missed the one kick that really mattered, against the 49ers in the playoffs.
That was in 1981.
1983
I’m a Warren moon guy but fouts is a forgotten stud too
Dan Fouts is a huge fan of context