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- Опубликовано: 19 дек 2022
- Nelson Dellis, five-time USA Memory Champion, answers the internet's burning questions about memory. How come it's easier to remember Taylor Swift lyrics than psychics formulas? How do you remember lines over night? Is there a correlation between exercise and memory? What is a memory palace? Nelson answers all these questions and much more!
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Why the headphones?? I looved this episode btw😊
@@toomanycamilas Either noise cancelling or simply sound isolating, to remove distractions for better concentration.
Do people attempt to enhance themselves with nootropic drugs at memory competitions ?
@@toomanycamilas yes! Those are noise defending headphones (increases concentration at competitions)
@@infinitemonkey917 not that I know of…yet, anyways
It would have been great if he introduced himself as "the 4 time memory champion, no wait, 5 time."
@V Lakehunt Epic die
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lol
why?
@@apecentury228 because
Nelson: Sleep is super important for memory
Me, at 1:05 AM: ok, ok, I get it
I just happen to read your message and i checked the hour to find it 01:05
me at 3:09 am😭
Me currently at almost 2am 🥲😂
Me at 5 am😅
Me at 2am
I've never heard of a memory champion or coach before. I like how Wired can find experts at topics nobody really knows or thinks about
Maybe you'd heard of it before but just forgot
honestly, same.
There's an incredible book about a Journalist who reported about a championship, got hooked and literally ended up winning next year's memory championship. It's called 'Moonwalking with Einstein'.
I highly recommend it
With nobody, you just mean yourself, right?
@@parafraceren no, I mean a majority of people
I love how he just doesn't answer questions but gives us little presentation of more or less each question. I would definitely want to see more of this guy! 😊
Not to be racist or anything, but you are by far the best race in SC2
i also want to see more of this guy…
Especially talking about sour cream filled bananas. That's terrific enough to be VERY memorable!
I love how he answered questions in a way that made us more likely to retain the info. He knows that just saying words won't yield much retention, but pictures and stories will last longer in our memories and will link us to the information he was trying to impart.
Well played, memory guy.
Yes,lol.😂
I used to doodle a lot in class and during lectures and lessons, I got in trouble for it a lot. When I topk tests I would rememeber what I had drawn on certain pages of my notes and immediately would recall what my teacher was talking about while I was doodling that thing, and often remember the answer. Super weird 😂
I totally do that too. It works!
Yes! Me too! I'm in my 50s and I can STILL see/remember some of my college notes.
It's called mind mapping look it up I use it's great! 😊 👍
I'll try to think of that next time I see a friend or maybe a future child doing that and not just think that they're not paying attention because I've never really thought of it that way 😊
So you are somehow a memory expert yourselves??lol
If this guy forgets your name then you know he did it on purpose 😂
LOL😂
"Bear Grylls peeing on a thong in your highschool bedroom" isnt a sentence I thought I'd ever hear
Not the first time Bear Grylls is associated with pee..
Be glad it wasn't Bear Grylls urinating onto you or drinking his own pee 🤣
I was so confused about the memory palace thing until he did the example with the countries and I'm 99% sure I can recall that at any time now! So helpful, def using that!
The memory palace is popuar among card counters at the Black Jack table.
So how does one create a memory palace if they have no visual thoughts - which some peoples have
Or if they have visual memory but can't visualiser - which again is a known condition, I wish he covered that
@@Octopussyist Don't casinos have a way to counter that nowadays?
I don't believe in you
@@mathistruth9105 There is no way to counter that. What they do is watch the tables and if someone is winning too much, they talk about it and if they think the person counts, they ban him for life. So probably some really good counters can still do it for basically infinite money, if they make sure to not win too often and too much to give themselves away.
My memory is terrible, so I started watching this, and then I realized that I had already seen it, and forgotten.
I have this with so many Tech Support videos, maybe it has to do with the fact that most of us watch them at 1 am while drowsy. 😂
I loved this episode. I didn't realize I was unconsciously doing a lot of these already. My go to method for acing tests in school was to study using spaced repetition or interleaving but while I was studying I would listen to the same song on repeat. Then when I needed to recall everything I was studying I would just sing the song in my head and I could recall almost everything, a lot of times the pages eidetically.
That's so interesting, I've heard of memory palaces before but not people using something like a song, though I guess it works pretty similarly if you think about it.
I was given the tip once to imagine a story including the things you want to remember as it's easier to remember sequential things that build off each other
happens to me too omg
My Biology teacher and top 1 in class do this technique, and now watching this, fully convince now.
Just need to have good night sleep and moving to start up.
I want now to try this in random day.
In high school I used to draw in every class, and most of the teachers overlooked it because while I draw, I listen. When the tests came around, I always associated the lesson with the part of the drawing that I had been working on at the time, and it was simple enough that I was a straight-A student without studying.
Yep, linking totally works. Many years ago I used linking to pass the knowledge test to be a taxi driver. To pass the test I was given a long, random list of streets in my town and I had to remember an adjoining one for each. Pass mark was something like 90%. I learned the whole A-Z in two weeks and passed first time which was unheard of. I have a totally average memory. It's a brilliant way to learn long lists and I still use it to this day. (PS Probably fortunately for everyone I never became a taxi driver, I drove one limo for a school prom and decided it wasn't for me!)
Well even if you didn’t become a taxi driver in the end I bet you know your way around your city perfectly now so that’s pretty cool too! :)
Cool example! Was testing in my young days a book on memory with theses techniques, and to see if it was effective i retained a 100 digits number for a week. I was amazed at how easy it was (and first time the charm!).
I knew my memory wasn't weak because some things were memorized very easily forever, but others forgotten very fast (a few minutes lol)... It was a case of "highly selective memory", so i couldn't remember naturally things that don't interest me (i have some visual list for that nowadays! hahaha)
When I was a kid, I had a picture book that taught a linking method with all the US presidents (at the time). For example, George Washington had a washing machine then for John Adams, the washing machine was filled with large atoms. Still stuck in my brain over 30 years later.
What he said? I forgot
xd haha i hope ur joking :D
As someone trying to learn a new language (Japanese) this was actually so helpful. Definitely taking notes 🙏🏽
ganbare!
Rule no. 1: Stop saying you are trying to learn ... "I tried to open the door", basically means "I could not open the door". So saying this is programming yourself to not succeeding.
Rule no 2.: You are learning another language!
His method of connecting words with little scenarios is recommendable when learning vocabulary. The most efficient is when your scenario meets these three criteria: It describes the meaning of the word - it gives you some hint of the sound of the word - it is so ridiculous or spectacular that there is no way you can forget it.
Example:
Railway station = eki (you probably already know - but it is just an example)
Scenario: You are at the railway station, stumble and bump into something, resulting in the sign with the name of the station falling down in front of an oncoming train, being pushed in front of it making a skreeching sound like - ..kiiiiii
It takes some time and creativity, but once you get the habit of inventing these scenarios there is almost no limit to what you can memorize.
There's an app called anki i can highly recommend. Its like flashcards in your phone that pop up at different intervalls depending on how difficult you think the words are. So it helps with spaced repetition that he also mentioned in the video is good for long term memory. Been using it myself to memorize japanese and i find it very useful ^^
@@Octopussyist Rule no.1 has a problem, if you say you know japanese the person might start speaking japanese, if you don't understand you look like a liar and an idiot
I'm learning Thai - I find it's easier to remember if I can grasp familiarity with my native English.
Many words in Thai sound EXACTLY like an English word (though completely not the same word AT ALL)
Examples:
Bid = open
Bit = close
Toe = table
Kit = think
Do = look
Ow = want/take
Long = down
Bye = go
Non = sleep
Words on the left is how I imagine them being phonetically written in English, words on the right are the actual meaning in English. I also found it easier once I had grasped sentence structure which is pretty much the same as in English - subject, verb, object - adjectives are like Spanish and go after the noun, adverbs tend to go at the end etc.
2:29 in the restaurant industry I've heard this called walk-in syndrome. Because as soon as you go into the walk-in cooler you forget what you went there for in the first place. Happens multiple times a day to multiple people in restaurants.
WTF is up with everyone starting their question with "WTF"?
Hahaha.
I love mnemonics, i struggled to learn the bones of the wrist but then i heard the phrase "Shy Lovers Try Positions That They Can't Handle" and i never forgot (Scaphoid, Lunatum/Lunar bone, Triquetrum, Pisiform, Trapeze, Trapezoïd, Capitatum, Hamatum)
"Positions that they can't handle" 💀
Here's a interesting trick to study for your test or exam... First check if your teacher or whoever wont have anything against you chewing gum during the exam... And the trick is to chew it during studing and tahn chew it while taking the exam... Its best to chose gum with distinc falvour and smell. It basicly uses what he mentioned about smell and worked like charm for me back in the day...
I guess your spelling memory isn’t that good
I personally felt some of those questions.
Like, in high school I had a similar issue to the one who asked how is it possible to memorise song lyrics so perfectly but not physics formulas. I remember I was struggling with understanding biology as a whole subject, but I was also determined to try and get better grades. At that time I was also an avid bookworm for novels, and I started to wonder how come I could still remember perfectly a novel I read even 3-4 years prior (and only that once), but not what our teacher explained merely 2 days before. I came to realise that, when reading something fictional, I tended to imagine (visualise) the scenes and dialogues in my head -(I guess this is what pretty much everyone else does too)-
So I started to study by reading notes and text books as if I were reading the plot of a fictional novel. My grades did improve significantly afterwards. 🤯
I hacked my high school learning almost the same way! Everything I was reading and studying I would immediately implant into scenarios in my head - and since I wanted to become a doctor, it was almost always a patient with an ailment of sorts (for all sciences classes), or the patient themselves was famous or participated in an important event (for history and literature classes). Some things I remember to this day, together with their "patients" 😅
Sometimes, I would watch videos related to history to improve my visualization on specific events while studying the subject. I paired this with reconstructing back my History notes into something more visually attractive than long paragraphs on textbooks. It was a fun study time, watching historical characters coming to life in Oversimplified videos and cramping notes into big mind maps with highlighters and pens.
That last username was great, 10/10, he didn't even question it
I would have liked to hear what sort of things he remembered for some of the faces to give me more ideas.
I recently met a person named Katelyn-- I (try) to think of my neice Kate...then my middle name
Lyn.
@@carenmontgomery2384 we dont care??
@@jude7365 na it was pretty interesting
Aphrodite?! 🧐🤔
@@leevancliffneridacampo7769 @BipolarBearDick
Essentially, you emotionally prioritize memories because they are personally meaningful.
Schoolteachers tend to be very good at remembering your names because they tend to process your presence in the form of a seat plan's grid. I remeber being greeted by one of my former elementary school teachers who knew my name decades later and promptly embarassing myself trying to remember hers.
I'm sure she remembered where you sat too, for sure
Him memorizing all the names at the end was amazing. Just the anticipation of seeing if the name underneath is what he said, and whether he'll get through them all. Also the sound of the velcro detaching was super satisfying, could be in an unintentional ASMR video lol
I was visiting my hometown in Ukraine, and I went to a local bar. Met a girl there, who had a bright ultraviolet light behind her on the wall. Her name was Violeta. This was in 2017.
okay but what did you eat for breakfast yesterday
What really helps me to remember what I study and get good grades, is that I always make sure that I understand what I'm reading. If there's a word I'm not sure of, I look it up, if it's a function or whatever it could be, read up a bit on it and go back to the text and make sense of what is written. It can be tedious, but well worth it. Really understanding what I'm learning helps, not only short term, but long term as well. Good way of checking yourself, is to try to explain what you´ve learned. Can you explain it in a simple manner and can you remember the more advanced bits.
I've heard about (and experienced) the forgetting stuff when walking into a room thing. But I also experience something similar that I haven't heard anyone talk about. If I'm lying down on my right side and thinking about something, then roll over to my left side, I almost always forget what I was thinking of. If I roll back to my right side I can usually remember it again (same for reverse). Curious if anyone else here has that happen, or knows why it occurs?
That happens to me when I'm falling asleep. Not sure why it happens
This happens to me too, I reckon it's about recreating the conditions that caused me to think of the thing in the first place.
Memory is linked to many things, specifically your environment. Hence why a certain smell can “take you back” to a different time or feeling. Same with general things. Lying on your left side, there was a certain feeling or line of sight that is connected to that thought. Flipping over to your right changes the course of what is being processed in the mind and via your senses. Returning to the left side and all of the senses that were linked to the fleeting thought, can bring it back to the forefront because your brain ties the physical setting to that memory.
@@crazyg2269 that theory of left vs right brain was debunked years ago. This scenario deals with memory being associated with specific environments.
I'd suggest quietly, that it's very similar (possibly linked?) to forgetting because you walked through a door, or when opening the fridge...
If you listened to the video, specifically "Memory is linked to an event threshold"... That's not just the threshold in a doorway. It's about the EVENT, itself, involved in your memory... A single memory links to a single event, so you're thinking of it on your left side, then you roll over, and now that you're laying on your right side, the rollover is the threshold between laying on your left and then laying on your right...
It's just theorizing at this point... BUT unless you've got particular other stimuli involved, whether it's laying on a couch so only on one side do you face the back cushions and smell their particular smell, versus the rest of the room when you roll over, there isn't a lot of other information involved in changing your brain's activity or disrupting whatever you're thinking about before the rollover...
Not a neurology expert, of course... JUST taking what was said in the video and making sense of it here...
The point is that the term was EVENT threshold, so it can be all kinds of things... nearly any change in activity or circumstance to that activity. ;o)
Most of the techniques involved visualisation. Would love to hear alternatives for people with aphantasia.
@Wired, thank you for post this video featuring Nelson Dellis, he's one of my favorite memory experts.
I think some people just naturally have a knack for this kind of stuff.
At 4:27 with the 5-item grocery list, I've heard before of people using stories to remember each item, or even assigning a different word based on each first letter and things like that, but honestly I'd forget the order of the story, parts of the story, etc. I'd really have to sit and run it over and over and over in my brain. And with a 5 item list, it'd honestly just be easier for me to remember the 5 words.
My partner thought the same thing when I told him about this video. Then I told him the story about asparagus stabbing the bread, revealing the banana which when peeled splooshed sour cream into my mug of coffee beans. He then recited back not just the list but the story. The expression on his face... 😂
That physical map technique is literally gold. Oh my days
awesome -- also I want him to post a google spreadsheet with each person, action, and thing he has associated with every card
You know there are other systems you can use if you struggle remembering celebrities visually.
Easier if you come up with the associations yourself so they are personally meaningful. Remember how he said the 8 of Clubs (or Spades? Lol) is Bear Grylls and he can't even remember why? It was something that mattered at one point to him. That little bit of a hook is what helps us remember. For example, for me the 10 of Spades would be my friend, Tony, who bowls so many strikes in a row at our amateur bowling games we had to give him a handicap. 😅 Of course, then I can't use it to mean a strike at bowling since then I'd get confused when trying to remember a three card story (person action object). That's actually a really good prompt for a tarot spread. Hm.
I remember lists by making up a fun story around them. I then repeat that story atleast 7 times. Works every time.
This is fascinating and a “ memory palace” seems like a neat idea until I'm trying to remember why I keep picturing a soccer ball with headphones stuck on it.
They say there's a fine line between genius and insanity
Memory is such a fascinating concept.. I was basically drooling at this guy’s genius
That fact about higher adrenaline is interesting when you put it up against the thought that when people are at a crime they have a hard time remembering all the details
So to memorize a 52-card deck, I have to memorize 52 Persons, Actions and Objects associated with those cards first. And then I have to think of 18 "Memory Palaces". Which I also have to remember the order of. But then I can do it! Then I can remember a deck of cards. :d Still pretty impressive.
I used to have a crazy good memory until around 6 years ago, then after some traumas I started to feel a very big difference. Now I don't remember things as easily as I did then - still have a pretty good memory, but definitely lost most of my ability to remember stuff
did u have a eidetic memory prior
Trauma definitely affects memory. Eidetic memory tends to fade with age, not trauma. Memory loss in response to trauma is the brain’s attempt to protect itself.
@@3n3j0t4 I don't know if it could be considered eidetic memory, but it was really good and very precise back then
It’s normal for getting older
Really glad someone asked the question about mnemonics and equally glad for the answer. That was one of my biggest problems up to highschool was teachers heavily suggesting I use mnemonics when I could more easily recall the original phrase/list. Its quite possible I just have yet to find a proper way of nailing mnemonics in my brain and it would be extremely helpful to me, I’m certainly always going to be open to exploring.
He explains concepts really nicely
The way this man’s brain works is amazing. Def jumped to the bench of my dream rotation
I often get tip of the tongue (also known as lethologica) phenomenon. Where people often recall one or more features of the target word, such as the first letter, its syllabic stress, and words similar in sound and/or meaning. I always say "it starts with a c.. what's the word? It means like other people can catch the sickness"
I do this all the time to my mom, half the time I'm not sure the word actually exists, and I might throw up to 3 possible starting letters at her XD One time she asked for help figuring out a word and we couldn't get it. It was "comfort food", which I never would have figured out because it's two words :]
When I think of “thinking” I instantly thought about school lessons and kinda drained me already lol
I feel like someone influencing you and what you engage can also affect your process. What just I shared is the influence I have in my mind, so I need to alter that mindset and replace it with healthy stuff.
Never encounter a lot about getting immersed with “warm up” first before starting. Might just get you not far enough of what goal you want.
Surprised nobody asked the question, "how do you forget memories you want to forget?"
Wanna know the answer? We can't, not really. But we can actually trick our brain into believing something else is true. Alter the truth, lie to yourself and it will become the truth over time.
This question can be surprisingly painful when you think about it.
amnestics don't exist
I actually did this one time. I was so utterly embarrassed by something that happened that I told myself repeatedly: "this didn't happen, this didn't happen, this didn't happen" and didn't allow myself to think about what happened. I would just repeat that sentence over and over and so I forgot what happened. To this day I don't know what it was because I forced myself to forget it, I only know it was very embarrassing to me
Therapy
Another way I learned to remember peoples' names when meeting them is simply to repeat it after they introduce themselves. Like "hi, i'm Alex" "Hi Alex, i'm Sarah" "hello Sarah. Nice to meet you too." Or something. Just make sure you repeat it early in the conversation, 1) it'll be less awkward to use it later and 2) if you misunderstood the name, you're corrected straight away
I'm a memory researcher and it feels so good to understand everything hes talking sbout
Wow! This is the best Q&A session that wired done yet! ❤️
15:03 i figured out the "3 ways to memorize for a test" in high school simply through experimentation. well, 2 ways really-i skipped the 3rd one (to actually try to recall what i studied). my interweaving was not studying something else, but rather doing something mundane like listening to music or reading a magazine/comics. it was quite effective.
it's interleaving*
Amazing! Thank you for all the techniques 😀
I read tarot and I have problems associating many of the cards with their meaning. Definitely, I'm gonna try some of these tricks, so I don't have to go back and forth to the manual and consult what each card means. Thanks!
The one thing that put us ahead of other species is our pattern recognition ability coupled with our sense of wonderment and our skill in the 1-2-3 linear connection. Those factors together have is ask “what if I do this?” Or “what if this happens?” to combine with cause and effect for repetition.
The first letter trick really works, I used it to memorize a monologue
That was amazing!!
Loved this!! Would be great to do another video.
Throughout a year I did spaced repetition for a university entrance exam and it worked so well!
first question. does sleep affect memory.
answer, Yes sleep is important.
Me at 3 in the morning: oh wow, yeah, I guess I should just get off of this and go to bed, I can't even correctly remember the question or the answer. thanks memory guy who had a name
thank you very much for sharing your techniques. Was very helpful.
i needed this guy 5 years ago
I just love watching videos abt memory, and definitely wanna lear more abt it, so tks!!
I have a scar on my temporal lobe, which causes me to obsess over my memories until I know them by heart. I love making memory videos for lists of things. My most recent one is the Booker Prize winners. I've found that the more random and odd the videos are, the more likely you remember them.
Thank you this was awesome
I am having a test tomorrow 😂,what a video to watch...thanks wired
Good luck!
Everything good?
I love the level of imagination you can use to help recall memories.
I find it funny he can remember that bear grillis is the 8 of clubs but cant remember why that is. Also stumbling over some of the names. Gives me comfort that a 5 time memory champ still slips up :D
I don't really know him, but for me it would be 8 = B, and clubs looks like a clover leaf, so nature
Omg I looove memory palaces - they literally help me revise and recall essayss
A perfect timing for my cognitive psych class.
9:50 So to answer this question for real instead of just saying “because that’s how it is”.
Bad memories are usually mistakes, your brain knows when you make mistakes and wants to keep a record of all your mistakes so that when you get into a similar situation in the future your brain can recall that memory in order to avoid doing that particular mistake again.
This is the basis of how all learning works
very cool fun fact about smell being evolutionarily older and therefore bypassing the thalamus and that being why smell memories are so immediate
Does anyone else find it satisfying how his shirt, brain model, rubik's cube tiles and his eyes are all the same blue?
The best one I've find so far.
One of the most interesting videos I’ve seen in a long time
These are really informative things, that should be teached at school
The picture name thing was nice, I'd like to have seen him name them off a second board with the pictured arranged in a random order to prove he linked the name to the face, not just memorized the order.
This was so awesome!
Nothing beats watching this video while I'm suposed to be studying for my finals
I loved this.
Brilliant episode, thx!
2:52 This one speaks to me, and I have some personal experience with it: the reason I memorized pi to (exactly) 62 decimal places is the Hard 'n Phirm song "Pi", where that's the chorus!
Love this man
can we just appreciate how he solved a rubik's cube blindfolded?!!!
The rubiks cube while blindfolded technique made me realize I not only have a crappy memory, I'm dumb af too.
5:02 thats a really good one, thank u
Very Useful.. Thank you very much..
he has a book! it’s really fun and easy to understand i love it
I used the memorization trick to remember Jane Austen books, making the nonsensical word SNEPP, for Sense and Sensibility, Northanger Abbey, Emma, Pride and Prejudice, and Persuasion.
I would do the same for a small grocery list if I didn't have a List App on my phone. I also repeat something three times to help recall it or say it over and over walking to the next room.
Thank you for the name tip! As someone who has face blindness i tried for years to associate people with a defining feature and ended up reverting to either their coat or car (im brilliant at remembering cars! 🤷♀️) problems happen when people buy new coats and cars though! Im going to try this tip to remember now 😊
so Michael Scott was right about how to remember names!
Love this video, inspired me to be more creative when studying. It's a shame my alevels are next week.
The first letter method totally works!
The memory trick where you visualise in your head is fine for most people, but I have Aphantasia and so have no visualisation skills. I have to remember things differently
As for the password, you are far better off using the whole sentence than the initial letters since the password becomes too short, making it easier to brute force. Longer passwords = more entropy = harder to crack. An 8 character password can be bruteforced in less than a week even if theres numbers and special characters, while a similar but 12 character password will take tens or even a hundred thousand years to bruteforce.
"When you use mnemonics and the proper technique, you're taking advantage of things that our brains are really good at, namely thinking in pictures."
* cries in aphantasia *
I hope you'll invite Nelson Dellis another time, because this was super interesting!
I was so hoping someone would point this out. So much of this relies on seeing images in your mind that I gave up on this video halfway through.
Something that could be a good substitute is the Taylor question; if you make rhythmic connections between words or simply using rimes, that could be a good memory exercise.
Same 😢
No joke. Really used to think that Mind Palace and other such mnemonics were only meant for utter geniuses because I was so poor at visualisation.
such an inspiring episode :)
I use the memory palace for lists and I have many different locations to use in my memory. But I'm running out of locations that I have a good recall of. Do you have different layers of things in the locations you use for the memory palace technique? Or do you just pick a different location for things you need to keep in your memory over time? I hope this question isn't too confusing.
WHOA this episode was so so helpful, I’ll def remember (😉) it!!
I’m in pharmacy school and when I’m studying drug names I teleport my mind back to my first pharmacy job and look thru the shelves of drugs, so cool that technique has a name (memory palace)
Nice to see Michael Scott's method of memorizing people's names being used by a five-time USA Memory Champion!
I'm going to forget all this
Forget what?
Wow these are some really good techniques!