You're not gonna drink the electrolyte? And what are you gonna do with it, huh? Pour it down the drain perhaps? Or dump it in your backyard? Your plants (and any neighbors with a well) will surely thank you for that......
Of course not, but I still wouldn't pour it into a soil in which I'd EVER want to grow food or drill a well in (using carbon rods would've been easier I think). On a semi-related note: I heard a story where one researcher has once dumped a small vial's worth of radioactive liquid out of his window. They had to replace the soil 1.5 m deep in that area afterwards.....
Almost. I'm an electrical engineer/IT guy :P And happen to know a little bit about chemistry and gardening... So yeah, I really hope that the remaining liquid has never touched any soil after you were done with the cleaning....
@@CoolKoon I disapprove of using stainless steel, but carbon rods don't work well. They dissolve into nothing quickly, and if you aren't prepared for it, your metal will start to rust away as soon as the current stops flowing. There are some types of isomolded graphite rods out there, but they are ridiculously more expensive than most items you'd want to defrost, so it defeats the purpose. Better off using cheap scrap metal as the sacrificial piece.
Hey Chris I dropped the method described as the very residue even looks insidious ~ and on inquiry, my thoughts were confirmed. I have been experimenting with an array of methods ~ I am currently trying an anode of steel with a Bicarb and even nappy sanitiser which has an oxygen content and the electrical process is effectively activated/ enhanced with these add ins ~ The process works on steel and ferrous metals just fine but the process requires changing the fluid and cleaning up the anodes to produce a best result ~ I am now trialling the same deal with brass as I Metal detect WWII military sites and most personal fixtures , webbing buckles and many equipment pieces are brass. So the pieces are often encrusted and corroded after some 70 years ~ (Ironically the condition and technique required is conditional to where the item was found and prevailing soil conditions ~ So many items including coins respond well even to techniques such as sonic jewellery cleaner!) Thus far I am hopeful of the results as I have found that the brass after two treatments with an anode of steel and a buff with a light weight brass brush is working extremely well ~ So optimistic there ~ but the ultimate frustration is copper base coins which we also find a lot of ~ Cheers SS
good stuff I was hoping that a compound with a high oxygen content would aid the cleaning process, you'll have to keep me posted on your results. it sounds like a great hobby you have there Stuart what as been your best find so far ? on a completely different project I've got to "nitre blue" a steel sculpture which involves heating a bath kn03 to 650f , so that's a very rich oxygen source, I wonder if adding solution of kn03 in the electrolysis bath would have any effect?
Every few years, I think about trying some electrolysis, but after your warning, I don't think I ever will. Just can't risk having clean clothes! lol But seriously, I'm glad you brought us along for your adventure.
"Stuart what as been your best find so far ?" Mate that's a real tough question ~ If you go to my page and look at the picture introducing my last video you will see several items including a strange looking T piece with a pin attached. That is a brass quick release pin for a 303 ammunition case! I think that is my favourite find! But I am regarded by friends as " A Freak" as I have recovered over THIRTY WWII Australian Military forces Rising Sun badges ! Some of these can be seen in the video to the extreme right of my page ~ Some MD mates have found NONE! One spectacular find was a Queen Victoria 1867 anniversary Maltese Cross ~ found literally in the Bush ! As for the electrolysis process I did two Rising Sun badges and a WWII US Army officer's jacket waist belt buckle with spectacular results ~ I will have to make a small vid and post up with some of my collection and results of my processing !
Rectifiers dont give out AC unless they are faulty, what they do give out is chopped DC, and personally, i cant see the reason for using the battery charger if you have a good battery
That looks pretty nice in the end...for my project though it is quite a big object that I want to plate, but it has some brass plating left with quite a bit of bare steel.
I suggest ~ start by trying sanitiser ~ nappy cleaner ! I discovered this method recently and it works a trick on my brass relics and even ( Australian) silver modern decimal coins which are notorious for developing a black coating after lain in the ground for some time. I add a desert spoon of detergent to the mix and Hot water and just leave ! Amazing result ~ not guaranteed to clean all but I have had great results.. an easy fix ~ Kills off any stench and removes the crud ~ * unless extreme of course! Leave fro some days then wash and buff with soft brass wire brush ~ If you find it does not work ~ then go onto to the noxious messy electrolysis ~
Cap would be placed parallel to the source battery charger. Since you use a battery charger there is no need for a resistor to limit the current to the capacitor. It will charge with the batterychargers current. Depending of the cap used plus to plus minus to minus if there is a indication on the cap. Connecting a electrolitic cap the wrong way may explode or break it. A cap can be shorted but the current will be unloaded in a zap. To prevent high discharges you can put a resistor (lamp for example) in series with the end rods. So the cap is paralel and the lamp is in series with plus or minus. I would take a simple cap from some kind of motor. Please note that the power will first be going to the cap for a few milisecond or seconds depending on the cap used then it will go to the electrolysis. This is only possible when using a constant current source if using a other source. Always place a resistor in series with the cap and connect them to the output to prevent high charging of the cap and destroying your power source. Anyways. Good luck to you all. I'm experimenting with a zink copper alloy automation machine thing to plate a copper zink alloy on materials. Don't know if it is going to work just some testing. If i have a good end product i might post it on my channel. The automation between the layers will me done with a lego mindstorm robot. Lol just for testing saves me a lot of dips. Will be a 5 bath system diy setup.
killerbeenl thank you so much if there was a like x 10 button, id press it! I wish you good luck with the alloy plating I believe its really tuff to achieve at home , keep me posted
Using Stainless steel releases Hexavalent chromium. Hexavalent chromium is illegal to dispose of as it is linked to causing various cancers 🤦🏼♂️
It’s tasty to
No custard?? Forget the Hexavalent Chromium,.......NO CUSTARD????
Well, it took me a while till I started to understand what you are saying.
had the same problem
@Robert Gardea lol, sounds like a mild Bolton accent.
Dude....you're really hard to understand
You're not gonna drink the electrolyte? And what are you gonna do with it, huh? Pour it down the drain perhaps? Or dump it in your backyard? Your plants (and any neighbors with a well) will surely thank you for that......
kept it for future use , not quite on the same scale as the exxon valdez though is it ?
Of course not, but I still wouldn't pour it into a soil in which I'd EVER want to grow food or drill a well in (using carbon rods would've been easier I think). On a semi-related note: I heard a story where one researcher has once dumped a small vial's worth of radioactive liquid out of his window. They had to replace the soil 1.5 m deep in that area afterwards.....
CoolKoon now that's a cool story :) I'm guessing your a science buff ?
Almost. I'm an electrical engineer/IT guy :P And happen to know a little bit about chemistry and gardening... So yeah, I really hope that the remaining liquid has never touched any soil after you were done with the cleaning....
@@CoolKoon I disapprove of using stainless steel, but carbon rods don't work well. They dissolve into nothing quickly, and if you aren't prepared for it, your metal will start to rust away as soon as the current stops flowing. There are some types of isomolded graphite rods out there, but they are ridiculously more expensive than most items you'd want to defrost, so it defeats the purpose. Better off using cheap scrap metal as the sacrificial piece.
Hey Chris
I dropped the method described as the very residue even looks insidious ~ and on inquiry, my thoughts were confirmed.
I have been experimenting with an array of methods ~ I am currently trying an anode of steel with a Bicarb and even nappy sanitiser which has an oxygen content and the electrical process is effectively activated/ enhanced with these add ins ~
The process works on steel and ferrous metals just fine but the process requires changing the fluid and cleaning up the anodes to produce a best result ~
I am now trialling the same deal with brass as I Metal detect WWII military sites and most personal fixtures , webbing buckles and many equipment pieces are brass. So the pieces are often encrusted and corroded after some 70 years ~
(Ironically the condition and technique required is conditional to where the item was found and prevailing soil conditions ~ So many items including coins respond well even to techniques such as sonic jewellery cleaner!)
Thus far I am hopeful of the results as I have found that the brass after two treatments with an anode of steel and a buff with a light weight brass brush is working extremely well ~
So optimistic there ~ but the ultimate frustration is copper base coins which we also find a lot of ~
Cheers
SS
good stuff I was hoping that a compound with a high oxygen content would aid the cleaning process, you'll have to keep me posted on your results.
it sounds like a great hobby you have there Stuart what as been your best find so far ?
on a completely different project I've got to "nitre blue" a steel sculpture which involves heating a bath kn03 to 650f , so that's a very rich oxygen source, I wonder if adding solution of kn03 in the electrolysis bath would have any effect?
Great video... definitely going to try this on a large brass door knocker...
Thanks , I made a gentle cleaning solution for brass to , ruclips.net/video/nzKFZCbLeQ8/видео.html
Every few years, I think about trying some electrolysis, but after your warning, I don't think I ever will. Just can't risk having clean clothes! lol But seriously, I'm glad you brought us along for your adventure.
Hello brother , can you tell me that how get refine copper with electrolytic from bronze alloy
"Stuart what as been your best find so far ?"
Mate that's a real tough question ~ If you go to my page and look at the picture introducing my last video you will see several items including a strange looking T piece with a pin attached. That is a brass quick release pin for a 303 ammunition case! I think that is my favourite find!
But I am regarded by friends as " A Freak" as I have recovered over THIRTY WWII Australian Military forces Rising Sun badges ! Some of these can be seen in the video to the extreme right of my page ~ Some MD mates have found NONE!
One spectacular find was a Queen Victoria 1867 anniversary Maltese Cross ~ found literally in the Bush !
As for the electrolysis process I did two Rising Sun badges and a WWII US Army officer's jacket waist belt buckle with spectacular results ~
I will have to make a small vid and post up with some of my collection and results of my processing !
Rectifiers dont give out AC unless they are faulty, what they do give out is chopped DC, and personally, i cant see the reason for using the battery charger if you have a good battery
Thanks for sharing.
But use something to stir with ( 2:53 ) like wood ...etc. Do not use your hand/arm
try soaking in a litre of vinegar two table spoons of salt and a teaspoon of dish washing liquid brass cleans up like new
thanks Michael
Not as good
That looks pretty nice in the end...for my project though it is quite a big object that I want to plate, but it has some brass plating left with quite a bit of bare steel.
¿That solution in the gallon jug bleach used for laundry?
cleaning brass is a pain in the ass, so im probably gonna try this, thanks
I suggest ~ start by trying sanitiser ~ nappy cleaner !
I discovered this method recently and it works a trick on my brass relics and even ( Australian) silver modern decimal coins which are notorious for developing a black coating after lain in the ground for some time.
I add a desert spoon of detergent to the mix and Hot water and just leave ! Amazing result ~ not guaranteed to clean all but I have had great results.. an easy fix ~
Kills off any stench and removes the crud ~ * unless extreme of course!
Leave fro some days then wash and buff with soft brass wire brush ~
If you find it does not work ~ then go onto to the noxious messy electrolysis ~
thanks , good tip, lol I was just messing around in the shed! I don't mid a bit of elbow grease :)
A desert spoon? For camping in the desert or for eating sand?
A Capacitor would clear the ripple also. And the risk of shorting a battery is not that great ;)
killerbeenl how would I connect it up? im very grateful for you advise ,regards chris :)
Cap would be placed parallel to the source battery charger. Since you use a battery charger there is no need for a resistor to limit the current to the capacitor. It will charge with the batterychargers current. Depending of the cap used plus to plus minus to minus if there is a indication on the cap. Connecting a electrolitic cap the wrong way may explode or break it. A cap can be shorted but the current will be unloaded in a zap. To prevent high discharges you can put a resistor (lamp for example) in series with the end rods. So the cap is paralel and the lamp is in series with plus or minus. I would take a simple cap from some kind of motor. Please note that the power will first be going to the cap for a few milisecond or seconds depending on the cap used then it will go to the electrolysis. This is only possible when using a constant current source if using a other source. Always place a resistor in series with the cap and connect them to the output to prevent high charging of the cap and destroying your power source. Anyways. Good luck to you all. I'm experimenting with a zink copper alloy automation machine thing to plate a copper zink alloy on materials. Don't know if it is going to work just some testing. If i have a good end product i might post it on my channel. The automation between the layers will me done with a lego mindstorm robot. Lol just for testing saves me a lot of dips. Will be a 5 bath system diy setup.
killerbeenl thank you so much if there was a like x 10 button, id press it! I wish you good luck with the alloy plating I believe its really tuff to achieve at home , keep me posted
Chav