Cato spent his entire life protecting the elite oligarchy under the banner of protecting Romes traditions. Look where that got the oligarchy "Republic."
Exactly. Cato fought all his life to preserve the "old ways" the old ways where an incredibly tiny minority get to sit on over 90% of the wealth of the republic. He had a disdain for the common people. He hid under the clock of tradition to hold back much needed reform. He essentially with his uncompromising nature killed the very thing he claim to love.
The other thing is also that these people would never have the humility to not wear shoes, like Cato would not and just a plain black toga, he would refuse to go on a horse and go on foot instead, causing his peers to have to talk down to him. I agree with everyone else that he was an arch patrician optimate, but even as that and their pretensions to being like him, they could not abide by it. These people that have misappropriated Cato the Younger like this would never set aside any grain of the comfort, let alone privilege that they have, they also think a lot with their emotions, which Cato would never do either. If he could take that rostrum, he'd condemn them, tell them to disband and stop using his name, out of the principle and then because these are soft men with no real principles.
Wait, y’all like the story of Cato denying people the right to a trial? Cato is not a guy to respect. He basically obstructed populist reforms that improved quality of life for Romans. When Caesar tried to challenge this, he was forced out of the Roman upper class and sent to Gaul. He came back with an army and then instituted populist reforms. Y’all like for his integrity but his “integrity” essentially caused the civil war in addition to the resistance to the populist reforms. The only thing he accomplished was a lot of death.
Cato's shortsightedness, smallmindedness and greed opened the door for the demise of the senate as he rendered it useless with his endless filibustering, made tax collection almost impossible, reneged on giving Pompey's veterans what the had been promised thus turning their allegience from the Senate even more towards the g.enerals, and tried to slight Caesar by denying him a Trumph for his conquests in Gaul. It all came back to haunt him as Caesar circumvented the senate to the pass laws that were needed to fix Rome as consul and then utilized the loyalty of his troops to enter Rome at the head of his army.
the greatest man i have ever heard of, he is my daily inspiration , he is the kind of man i want to be. Long live Cato's memory, justice, virtue, compassion, love and Freedom!
Cato was an Optimate, an advocate of oligarchical government of rule by wealthy landowners through the Roman Senate. Championed earlier by Lucius Sulla, who dismantled the elected aspects of the Roman Republic during his tenure, Cato and the other optimates believed that only the educated rich were qualified to rule. The masses will never stand for that and in that time, being unable to produce champions of their own anymore, like Tiberius Gracchus, they rallied behind Caesar. Caesar was more a Juan Peron' type of figure - autocratic and populist. Of course the people were foolhardy to surrender their power to an autocrat, but by that time they could no longer control their government. It was that or be predated upon by oligarchs bent on extracting the most from the economy and totally indifferent to their interests - like those who fund the Cato Institute here in America today.
no, Cicero initally convinced the senate to his case, but after caeser's speech all were voting his way, then Cato spoke is a very convincing manner and swayed the senate back to the execution standpoint.
Cato was petty and hypocritical. He hid behind his "principles" as a smokescreen for his competitive political games, ultimately leading to the end of the republic.
One of the greatest men that ever lived, and certainly Rome's finest. A hero of the people and an icon still. He saw through the charade of Roman politics and tried his best to save Rome from corrupt senators. Long live Julius Caesar's memory!
Cato the Younger was a Great Roman!! I personally prefer his Ancestor, Marcus Porcius Cato "The Elder"! The type of Roman that would stand for his Virtues, and his Nation, even if it meant standing alone! 🛡️🗡️
The part of Cato's story which sticks out to me the most was when he abandoned his trusted war horse in spain(?) because it was inefficient to bring it back to Rome. No one mentions that but it reminds me of how inhumane a disciplined life can appear.
CaTo is the only think tank on the Right that I can tolerate because they at least have some elemental commitment to principle and human dignity. Through I don't concur with what I perceive as their simplistic and ill-conceived economic doctrines.
So this think tank is named for an effective orator advancing the interests of a wealthy elite and leading the call for the Carthaginian genocide. Oh, that was his dad.
And the capital and a state are named for an effective leader and slave owner, I.e Washington. Grow up. People aren’t perfect but we can still admire and study their lives.
You end up a slave at the end of the day regardless, so what does it matter? I highly doubt Caesar cared that much about the common people anyway, he was just manipulating them for political clout and using them as a shield to deflect from the consequences of his growing tyranny.
@@silversnail1413 That's what the ancient writers thought, but let's keep in mind they're mostly from the aristocracy. Rich oligarchs that controlled the country. Rome was a slave-centric society, but if I was a citizen and social mobility wasn't bad, you could argue it's a good deal
How on earth does your site you get limited government from Cato? The Phaedo that Cato reads is by someone who is all about serious government intervention i.e. Plato - The Republic. All the great classical authors are about government involvement in statehood. The Nicomachean Ethics etc...
@@Nov1706 They stand for it and yes of course I did. Cato and ALL of classical philosophy and virtue ethics are completely contrary to the concept of limited government, which this group espouses. Cato, Cicero - earlier Aristotle - are all about virtue being defined IN relation to the far reaching power and existence of the state.
@@filmicreviews3270 Bernie sanders is the closest example of an american politician at least today who can be compared to cato in terms of values and how uncompromising and stubborn they are in their beliefs, Bernie refused to be part of "identity politics" in the democratic party and has always focused on policies, Bernie is not a crowd appeaser he stands by what he believes just like cato, but other than that yea when it comes to policies cato was an ultra conservative who was in favor of oligarchy and had a very low opinion of the avarge roman citizens
@@Jack_804 land reform doesn't equal "ancient socialism" it is completely idiotic to compare a politician who ran for the presidency to a man who held both political and military power and had the support of the most power figures in his time
Cato spent his entire life protecting the elite oligarchy under the banner of protecting Romes traditions. Look where that got the oligarchy "Republic."
Exactly. Cato fought all his life to preserve the "old ways" the old ways where an incredibly tiny minority get to sit on over 90% of the wealth of the republic. He had a disdain for the common people. He hid under the clock of tradition to hold back much needed reform. He essentially with his uncompromising nature killed the very thing he claim to love.
@@baricdondarion6228 : Cato was following the path already cut by Lucius Cornelius Sulla 35 years prior.
The other thing is also that these people would never have the humility to not wear shoes, like Cato would not and just a plain black toga, he would refuse to go on a horse and go on foot instead, causing his peers to have to talk down to him. I agree with everyone else that he was an arch patrician optimate, but even as that and their pretensions to being like him, they could not abide by it. These people that have misappropriated Cato the Younger like this would never set aside any grain of the comfort, let alone privilege that they have, they also think a lot with their emotions, which Cato would never do either.
If he could take that rostrum, he'd condemn them, tell them to disband and stop using his name, out of the principle and then because these are soft men with no real principles.
Wait, y’all like the story of Cato denying people the right to a trial?
Cato is not a guy to respect. He basically obstructed populist reforms that improved quality of life for Romans. When Caesar tried to challenge this, he was forced out of the Roman upper class and sent to Gaul. He came back with an army and then instituted populist reforms. Y’all like for his integrity but his “integrity” essentially caused the civil war in addition to the resistance to the populist reforms. The only thing he accomplished was a lot of death.
So are you a fan of populism, or Caesarism?
@@bloodbased Caesarian. Those populist reforms were needed
How much of his hatred for Caesar came from the fact his sister was Caesar's favorite mistress?
Such a thing was not uncommon in this time. Very little, I wager.
And you blame him or Julius?
@@redjirachi1 Half-sister. Same mother (Livia Drusa). Different father's (Cato Salonianius and Quintus Servilius Caepio)
Cato's shortsightedness, smallmindedness and greed opened the door for the demise of the senate as he rendered it useless with his endless filibustering, made tax collection almost impossible, reneged on giving Pompey's veterans what the had been promised thus turning their allegience from the Senate even more towards the g.enerals, and tried to slight Caesar by denying him a Trumph for his conquests in Gaul. It all came back to haunt him as Caesar circumvented the senate to the pass laws that were needed to fix Rome as consul and then utilized the loyalty of his troops to enter Rome at the head of his army.
the greatest man i have ever heard of, he is my daily inspiration , he is the kind of man i want to be. Long live Cato's memory, justice, virtue, compassion, love and Freedom!
He was an old fart.
Those who don’t know philosophy will always be lame.
Antonio Sorrenti fuck cato
@@dragonslayer7627 It says Cato the Younger in his name, DUH
These idiots saying that cato was an old fart are just idiots. Cato was a young guy. Younger than Kaizar. And yes its not Cesar but Kaizar.
Cato was an Optimate, an advocate of oligarchical government of rule by wealthy landowners through the Roman Senate. Championed earlier by Lucius Sulla, who dismantled the elected aspects of the Roman Republic during his tenure, Cato and the other optimates believed that only the educated rich were qualified to rule. The masses will never stand for that and in that time, being unable to produce champions of their own anymore, like Tiberius Gracchus, they rallied behind Caesar. Caesar was more a Juan Peron' type of figure - autocratic and populist.
Of course the people were foolhardy to surrender their power to an autocrat, but by that time they could no longer control their government. It was that or be predated upon by oligarchs bent on extracting the most from the economy and totally indifferent to their interests - like those who fund the Cato Institute here in America today.
the speech that changed the senate was made by Cicero.
no, Cicero initally convinced the senate to his case, but after caeser's speech all were voting his way, then Cato spoke is a very convincing manner and swayed the senate back to the execution standpoint.
True. It was Cicero who killed the conspirators and argued in the Senate.
Kind of left out Cicero who presided over that execution
These are stories that are worthy of remembering.
George Washington is said to have loved the play "Cato."
Cato was petty and hypocritical. He hid behind his "principles" as a smokescreen for his competitive political games, ultimately leading to the end of the republic.
One of the greatest men that ever lived, and certainly Rome's finest. A hero of the people and an icon still. He saw through the charade of Roman politics and tried his best to save Rome from corrupt senators. Long live Julius Caesar's memory!
How??? He only ever wanted the rich to be richer and in control. He was trash.
This is a fantastic video and discussion from this organization. Love it Cato keep it up guys.
Great presentation, thanks for uploading!!
You would find that Marcellus forced Pompey to turn against Caesar, cato just supported Marcellus.
Well, this guy is not biased at all. . .
Fuck this.
Caesar Aeternum!
Shut up anglo
you are right Bearded Snowden
😂😂😂 crucifixions for all.
This is by far the worst description of Cato I've ever heard.
That was terrific!
Cato was a straight up OG gangsta 😤 💯
Thanks for the ART THERAPY 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 VIDEOS
I liked it until I tried to make sense of how politics can exist unaffected by self-interest. I just cannot get behind that one.
Cato was a stoic. He was an ideolgoue and a devout follower of that philosophical sect. He followed that way of living thoroughly.
Which is why you must have a rotation of politicians. Every 4 years
Cato the Younger was a Great Roman!! I personally prefer his Ancestor, Marcus Porcius Cato "The Elder"! The type of Roman that would stand for his Virtues, and his Nation, even if it meant standing alone! 🛡️🗡️
Virtues? "If your slave gets too old to work, then sell him."
The part of Cato's story which sticks out to me the most was when he abandoned his trusted war horse in spain(?) because it was inefficient to bring it back to Rome. No one mentions that but it reminds me of how inhumane a disciplined life can appear.
Abandoning a horse is considered inhumane? I wonder what your opinions are on eating any sort of meat!
Cato would never support a Kenyan from Hawaii, he was a man who refused to accept change. He truly destroyed the country he loved
I would place the life Mandela next to anyone’s as an example of living one’s principles ....
Then you should check out whats going on there now.
2:42 I thought someone was trying to get my attention in my home lmao
Principled to advocate for the death penalty without trial?
Excellent.
Cato & Kato are great!
CaTo is the only think tank on the Right that I can tolerate because they at least have some elemental commitment to principle and human dignity. Through I don't concur with what I perceive as their simplistic and ill-conceived economic doctrines.
Victrix causa deis placuit sed victa Catoni.
Nihil novi sub sole
cicero came up with optimates
I like the other Cato... The elder guy who said, "Delenda Carthago. "
He also said that if your slave gets too old to work, then sell him.
We need Cato today
We really do...
No we don’t
So this think tank is named for an effective orator advancing the interests of a wealthy elite and leading the call for the Carthaginian genocide. Oh, that was his dad.
And the capital and a state are named for an effective leader and slave owner, I.e Washington. Grow up. People aren’t perfect but we can still admire and study their lives.
Yes, we were the best, that is why we are on top.
@@matthewgraham6980 You miss my point.
@@emresener08 I get your point. Clumsy me. "Wealthy elites" or something like that would have been a better choice. Thanks for the edit.
@@matthewgraham6980 I did. Made appropriate edit.
Cato was too truthful.
Cato Uticensis!
cato is just who i wish i could be. principle is more important then public relations. all day. every day.
until said principles leads to the death of the things you are principled towards
Cato the Mitch McConnell of his time.
Hail Caesar! Imperator victor!
I much rather have a Caesar than a Cato, corruptly defending the interest of the elites.
Bruh, Caeser literally bougth votes for magistrate in Rome, he was the corrupt tyrant that destroied democracy in ancient rome.
You end up a slave at the end of the day regardless, so what does it matter? I highly doubt Caesar cared that much about the common people anyway, he was just manipulating them for political clout and using them as a shield to deflect from the consequences of his growing tyranny.
@@silversnail1413 That's what the ancient writers thought, but let's keep in mind they're mostly from the aristocracy. Rich oligarchs that controlled the country.
Rome was a slave-centric society, but if I was a citizen and social mobility wasn't bad, you could argue it's a good deal
Cato was a fool
How on earth does your site you get limited government from Cato? The Phaedo that Cato reads is by someone who is all about serious government intervention i.e. Plato - The Republic. All the great classical authors are about government involvement in statehood. The Nicomachean Ethics etc...
@@Nov1706 They stand for it and yes of course I did. Cato and ALL of classical philosophy and virtue ethics are completely contrary to the concept of limited government, which this group espouses. Cato, Cicero - earlier Aristotle - are all about virtue being defined IN relation to the far reaching power and existence of the state.
@@Nov1706 Fascinating that you've just made an assertion, versus a reply based on critical thinking - or what classical philosophy terms reason.
Soni's laughs are disturbing.
Dante's inferno
Cato threw
This shd be a test for politicians. There are crazy people in congress today, not akin to public service.
Bernie Sanders is the closest thing we have to a modern day Cato. Change my mind.
Cato was a conservative and was against policies for land grants. His party that he led was very pro oligarchy.
@@filmicreviews3270 Bernie sanders is the closest example of an american politician at least today who can be compared to cato in terms of values and how uncompromising and stubborn they are in their beliefs, Bernie refused to be part of "identity politics" in the democratic party and has always focused on policies, Bernie is not a crowd appeaser he stands by what he believes just like cato, but other than that yea when it comes to policies cato was an ultra conservative who was in favor of oligarchy and had a very low opinion of the avarge roman citizens
@@panoskatrin4910 What? Are you dumb? The Roman Republic died because of man like Sanders, Caeser was a socialist of his time.
@@Jack_804 land reform doesn't equal "ancient socialism" it is completely idiotic to compare a politician who ran for the presidency to a man who held both political and military power and had the support of the most power figures in his time
@@Jack_804 nvm I just realized ur a kid
Too many fake Catos today.
Also, suicide is cowardice!
Have you tried it?
O.o