Dang! It’s a subtle difference, but once you’re aware of it, you can’t help but notice. The sense of scale and immersion seems very much improved, and that’s just from watching on an iPad. Definitely going to be buying this tomorrow thanks for the comparison! 🖖😀
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$5 is a rip-off. All this mod does is change some values in an XML. If you're on PC there's a bunch of other free mods that do the same. For instance the "Forest Enhancement Mod", completely free and also adjusts the height of trees in the city.
Got this quite cheap, found it has really improved the sim look especially flying in and out of a lot of bush strips and small airfields as I like. Really nice review!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! The height of trees, shrubs, bushes, and even grass in MSFS was EVEN WORSE back in the alpha/beta testing time before release. Testers took real vs. sim pics of the same places and eventually tree height got toned down a little, then a little more, then a lot more, and finally we have what we have today in stock, which is, we all know, still WAY too high in most circumstances. Trust me, it was WAY WAY worse originally. Shrub and grass heights have never been reduced in all this time, however, despite being complained of exactly as long. Seriously, why is the grass knee-deep on grass runways, especially those that are frequently used? But that said, I think this mod might be worth getting if it could make an accurate representation of my bailiwick, which is triple-canopy jungle verging on swamp some with some fairly large open expanses of pasture scattered at random. Try the 70775 zip code and show me what that looks like.
take a look at asobos portfolio and history of the other games they developed. Now tell me why MSFS2024 wont be exactly the same as the current sim. Most likely even worse. They are not a good studio and are in way over their abilities. They went from making garfield games and mickey mouse games to a flight sim overnight 🙄They didn't get it right the first time but now they are doubling down on scale and complexity.....that's sure to go smoothly.
Dont get me started on Asobo.....I think they are in way over their heads also. Their Portfolio of Games isnt what I would call something to have faith in when relying on a Company to successfully take over a Flight sim and not ruin it. We already seeing them doing that in many ways and i have ZERO Faith in them when it comes to MSFS2024. Sounds like they are putting all their attention in areas that we dont need, well atleast the PC simmer community. But they seem to be catering for Joe Casual with his XBox controller in hand, snackingon chips and soda while taking his F18 our for a sunday spin and having planty of "Acticities" to keep him happy. Multi is Terrible, LOD is terrible, ATC needs work, the AI voices need work, a big step down from the previous installment. This tree height issue they cant seem to get a handle on, tells you alot. 2024 is going to be a shitshow and a watered down one at that from their big showcase they had. I think the "sim" part of MSFS is going to be watered down to, to a bunch of "activities" "missions" to keep they XBoxers happy with things "to do" Its a real shame, because when im flying by myself and everything is working I love it......but theres so much that needs work and I think Asobo doesnt have a clue where it should be focusing its efforts, adding content like Dune ROFL, give me a break...MSFS is getting XBoxxed for those people who are not simmers and just want a Need For Speed style Flyer. I wont buy 2024 unless i hear positive reveiws from proper flight simmers and not some Loud RUclipser Fanboi losing his twizzlers over rescueing a stranded climber on a cliff face, that will majically pop in your basket from 50 meters away or vanish from sight 50 meters away..itll be a mess. Anyway woteva Asobo....get Good!
I bought this last night after a very hairy ILS approach to runway 08 in Samoa, where I was very concerned the glideslope was going to whack my gear into a gigantic tree just before the runway. I don't know if it would have, because I quickly took manual control and pulled up over it, but after a five hour flight from Hawaii, I wasn't going to risk it! That tree has now been trimmed.
At first I noticed nothing either. I was 1000 miles from home in an ultralight when I installed it. BUT.....about 5 days later when I flew home, that's when I noticed it. Houses I could not see before were now visible. Houses I know... and also know spot I could land in real life that the sim took away, were now land-able... (if that's a word).. Absolute game changer! NOW THIS IS REAL!
The problem with this add on is instead of making trees shorter it makes trees smaller(in width) leaving gaps all over the place. They should have just removed the height of the trees but not make it smaller.
Your comparison video is an outstanding effort! A shame that the original program contains such a glaring fault, and one has to spend more on things like this to get it right.
I’m on Xbox and I’ve had this for a couple months now and it’s great. Just a couple times had some strange trees looked like squares, probably memory issues. But only a couple times.
Salut captain , je profite de cette nouvelle et toujours très intéressante vidéo pour te poser une question . Avec l’arrivée imminente de MSFS2024 , crois tu que tout nos addon seront réutilisable dans la nouvelle mouture ou , il faudra tout racheter ? Et puis , d’après toi , est ce que MSFS 2020 aura une durée de vie limitée ? Pourra t’on continu à l’utiliser sans être connecter à un serveur ? Des tonnes de merci à toi …..
Tout d'abord merci beaucoup. Concernant MSFS2024 la très grande majorité des add-ons seront compatibles. C'est vrai que pour celui-là rien n'est moins sûr vu que la futur sim sera basée sur une nouvelle carte satellite et on a vu que les arbres seront plus variés. Tout ce qui touche aux paysages je serais prudent... Pour le reste il ne devrait pas y avoir de problème, sûrement des mises à jour pour les créateurs d'addon mais ça même eux ne sont pas encore au courant ;) Et oui Msfs2020 continuera d'exister pendant plusieurs années ça a été confirmé.
It looks good at first view but if you go to 2 mins and 32 seconds of your video the Tree mod seems to have taken out most of the city (not just the trees)
@@CaptainKenobi Got it right after I posted that comment, and well, there is a difference but there are still trees that are too tall in some areas, and some trees where there shouldn't be trees at all(but that is another issue all together)
As good as this may be, I won’t be paying for any more scenery addons for 2020 with 2024 just around the corner. Other than planes, I’ll wait for 2024.
@@CaptainKenobi It looks pretty good actually. Dust being kicked up by low flying planes, or taxiing over dirt is already in the sim I think. Other than that it looks pretty solid.
Je l'ai desinstaller, il me semble que ça ralenti pas mal le jeu sur xbox... Et je trouve que la différence avec ou sans 'est pas non plus exceptionnelle :(
@@FinalLightNL nice, as i see the tree addon here is also making the tree smaller causing gaps between the trees in the jungle making it less realistic. Therefore accuseason is better than tree height addon here.
Salut captain , j’ai actuellement la version bêta de la SU15 . Dois je tout désinstaller avant l’arrivée de la mise à jour ou , celle-ci écrasera la version bêta ? Merci à toi
i don't know about this it turns all the trees in to bush's an shrubs . i don't know about other country's but where i live trees dwarf houses . some of the place it looks right but others its just looks like its removing trees an putting bushes there . i guess if it giving an fps boost is worth it
@@CaptainKenobi Its good bro, although it can give you gradual lag overtime - if you have smooth weather change(have it on instant). Also issues if you use the map enhancement mod - where it pulls google maps. Rex Accuseason, WeatherForce & then parallel42s SimFx is the best combo for me :)
Also ich muss sagen ich finde es überhaupt nicht realistisch, sieht ja aus als wäre weltweit ein Trupp unterwegs gewesen die die Bäume auf einer und die selben Höhe gestutzt hätte 😮💨
yes from what we have seen so far it seems trees will be a lot different in MSFS2024, so I understand but I don't regret the add-on, it's good value for the price.
So you think you will save money in MSFS 2024? Well guess what, MSFS 2024 will be subscription based (paying monthly) and gonna be more expensive than MSFS 2020 with all payware addon combined.
as someone who has spend much of their working life around trees, the original is better, and even then some trees are too short, you just need to put an aircraft by the trees to see how short many of the default trees are, to charge $5 for this and slap the "Realistic" tag onto it is just feckless and a ripoff.
Well not to be complaining to you unless your the one putting the prices on these things but all I'm saying is it shouldn't cost so much for some digital plane. I would love to fly anyone of the planes they have on the market but I also like to eat and have fuel in my vehicle. I don't know it's hard when you are a plane freak and it's all you can think about but your too broke to even buy a digital plane let alone get a pilot license and plane. Just saying!
I understand perfectly. But some aircraft, even virtual ones, have required the work of one or more people for months, even years if you think of PMDG. There are plenty of free add-ons on PC, but it's a shame that this section never saw the light of day on Xbox...
That's fair. and I do realize that people do put a lot of work into this flight sim and want to get paid. I feel that! It is an amazing piece of work and I love it! I just get a bit razzled when I work my tookis off everyday and if and when I get a chance to get on all I can do is fly the same ol planes and drool all over my controller looking at something I want so bad but can't really afford. although I suppose I could save up for one or two lol
There will always be something "better" , in gaming its never ending. Then you get AccuSeason and a month later something better comes along and on and on and on and on. Theres different mods for different budgets.
Dang! It’s a subtle difference, but once you’re aware of it, you can’t help but notice. The sense of scale and immersion seems very much improved, and that’s just from watching on an iPad. Definitely going to be buying this tomorrow thanks for the comparison! 🖖😀
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$5 is a rip-off. All this mod does is change some values in an XML.
If you're on PC there's a bunch of other free mods that do the same. For instance the "Forest Enhancement Mod", completely free and also adjusts the height of trees in the city.
Got this quite cheap, found it has really improved the sim look especially flying in and out of a lot of bush strips and small airfields as I like. Really nice review!
Because is something very simple to do. It's a fair price!
Excellent split screen comparison 👍
Thank you 🙏
Hopefully this gets fixed in msfs 2024 so we don’t have to pay for realistic sized trees
🤞
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! The height of trees, shrubs, bushes, and even grass in MSFS was EVEN WORSE back in the alpha/beta testing time before release. Testers took real vs. sim pics of the same places and eventually tree height got toned down a little, then a little more, then a lot more, and finally we have what we have today in stock, which is, we all know, still WAY too high in most circumstances. Trust me, it was WAY WAY worse originally. Shrub and grass heights have never been reduced in all this time, however, despite being complained of exactly as long. Seriously, why is the grass knee-deep on grass runways, especially those that are frequently used? But that said, I think this mod might be worth getting if it could make an accurate representation of my bailiwick, which is triple-canopy jungle verging on swamp some with some fairly large open expanses of pasture scattered at random. Try the 70775 zip code and show me what that looks like.
take a look at asobos portfolio and history of the other games they developed. Now tell me why MSFS2024 wont be exactly the same as the current sim. Most likely even worse. They are not a good studio and are in way over their abilities. They went from making garfield games and mickey mouse games to a flight sim overnight 🙄They didn't get it right the first time but now they are doubling down on scale and complexity.....that's sure to go smoothly.
Dont get me started on Asobo.....I think they are in way over their heads also.
Their Portfolio of Games isnt what I would call something to have faith in when relying on a Company to successfully take over a Flight sim and not ruin it.
We already seeing them doing that in many ways and i have ZERO Faith in them when it comes to MSFS2024.
Sounds like they are putting all their attention in areas that we dont need, well atleast the PC simmer community. But they seem to be catering for Joe Casual with his XBox controller in hand, snackingon chips and soda while taking his F18 our for a sunday spin and having planty of "Acticities" to keep him happy.
Multi is Terrible, LOD is terrible, ATC needs work, the AI voices need work, a big step down from the previous installment.
This tree height issue they cant seem to get a handle on, tells you alot.
2024 is going to be a shitshow and a watered down one at that from their big showcase they had.
I think the "sim" part of MSFS is going to be watered down to, to a bunch of "activities" "missions" to keep they XBoxers happy with things "to do"
Its a real shame, because when im flying by myself and everything is working I love it......but theres so much that needs work and I think Asobo doesnt have a clue where it should be focusing its efforts, adding content like Dune ROFL, give me a break...MSFS is getting XBoxxed for those people who are not simmers and just want a Need For Speed style Flyer.
I wont buy 2024 unless i hear positive reveiws from proper flight simmers and not some Loud RUclipser Fanboi losing his twizzlers over rescueing a stranded climber on a cliff face, that will majically pop in your basket from 50 meters away or vanish from sight 50 meters away..itll be a mess.
Anyway woteva Asobo....get Good!
@@jonnie2bad Just watch their presentation from FSExpo 2023.
I bought this last night after a very hairy ILS approach to runway 08 in Samoa, where I was very concerned the glideslope was going to whack my gear into a gigantic tree just before the runway. I don't know if it would have, because I quickly took manual control and pulled up over it, but after a five hour flight from Hawaii, I wasn't going to risk it! That tree has now been trimmed.
At first I noticed nothing either. I was 1000 miles from home in an ultralight when I installed it. BUT.....about 5 days later when I flew home, that's when I noticed it. Houses I could not see before were now visible. Houses I know... and also know spot I could land in real life that the sim took away, were now land-able... (if that's a word).. Absolute game changer! NOW THIS IS REAL!
I imagine reading this in the 2030 decade, laughing at your "this is real" statement. 😅
Msfs-sweden here! I got this for Xbox..subtle but great add on
Happy to see you here :) thx mate!
Rex Accuseasons also have the choice of three different tree height. I also have seen freeware mods to change tree height, if I well remember.
The problem with this add on is instead of making trees shorter it makes trees smaller(in width) leaving gaps all over the place. They should have just removed the height of the trees but not make it smaller.
Exactly what I thought. At least for forests, where now you can spot the ground...
Your comparison video is an outstanding effort! A shame that the original program contains such a glaring fault, and one has to spend more on things like this to get it right.
Thank you!
I’m on Xbox and I’ve had this for a couple months now and it’s great. Just a couple times had some strange trees looked like squares, probably memory issues. But only a couple times.
This makes much more of a difference that I was thinking it would...
Yes
Okay so new player here, how did you recreate the shot so perfectly for the comparison video? Was this all done Manuelly by hand?
Yeah I find this a very good add on to have if you like low level military flying as well 👍🏻
bought this - brilliant !
really impressed
Salut David, thank you for this vid. Is this add on also available for the xbox?
Cheers
Markus
Hello Markus, yes Xbox as well ;) Should have put it in the title!
Do we think the default trees are so big so that they fill up more space with fewer objects.?.
Haha maybe
Great comparison. Thanks!
🫡
Default are correct in area where I live. With addon trees are too small, so uninstall and refound.
Salut captain , je profite de cette nouvelle et toujours très intéressante vidéo pour te poser une question . Avec l’arrivée imminente de MSFS2024 , crois tu que tout nos addon seront réutilisable dans la nouvelle mouture ou , il faudra tout racheter ? Et puis , d’après toi , est ce que MSFS 2020 aura une durée de vie limitée ? Pourra t’on continu à l’utiliser sans être connecter à un serveur ?
Des tonnes de merci à toi …..
Tout d'abord merci beaucoup. Concernant MSFS2024 la très grande majorité des add-ons seront compatibles. C'est vrai que pour celui-là rien n'est moins sûr vu que la futur sim sera basée sur une nouvelle carte satellite et on a vu que les arbres seront plus variés. Tout ce qui touche aux paysages je serais prudent... Pour le reste il ne devrait pas y avoir de problème, sûrement des mises à jour pour les créateurs d'addon mais ça même eux ne sont pas encore au courant ;) Et oui Msfs2020 continuera d'exister pendant plusieurs années ça a été confirmé.
It looks good at first view but if you go to 2 mins and 32 seconds of your video the Tree mod seems to have taken out most of the city (not just the trees)
Nah, the city's still there, it's just that there's been a slight delay between the two ;)
I don't regret buying this add on
I prefer the default one myself?
Going to go get this right now.
Let us know what you think
@@CaptainKenobi Got it right after I posted that comment, and well, there is a difference but there are still trees that are too tall in some areas, and some trees where there shouldn't be trees at all(but that is another issue all together)
I have this ad on on my Xbox x and honestly can't tell any difference
If you’re on the fence it’s amazing and makes a world of difference in your experience! 10/10 would buy again!
As good as this may be, I won’t be paying for any more scenery addons for 2020 with 2024 just around the corner. Other than planes, I’ll wait for 2024.
That's a reasonable choice. What do you think of the new SimFX add-on?
@@CaptainKenobi It looks pretty good actually. Dust being kicked up by low flying planes, or taxiing over dirt is already in the sim I think. Other than that it looks pretty solid.
Je l'ai desinstaller, il me semble que ça ralenti pas mal le jeu sur xbox... Et je trouve que la différence avec ou sans 'est pas non plus exceptionnelle :(
Faudrait que je regarde sur Xbox, ça fait un moment que j'ai pas testé avec ou sans!
I use accuseason that gives you control over tree heights including trees in cities density as well
does accuseason changes tree height or tree size?
@@RiemsAI height afaik
@@FinalLightNL nice, as i see the tree addon here is also making the tree smaller causing gaps between the trees in the jungle making it less realistic. Therefore accuseason is better than tree height addon here.
What is the first piece of instrumental music you used doe this video?
Thanks much!
Check the video description, you'll find the details ;)
Did you see any Coconut trees in tropical regions?
Did it have any effect on the exceptionally long grass in the original MSFS scenery?
Nop
That's not to bad, it'll work around the world will it? I just bought it.
Let us know what you think
Salut captain , j’ai actuellement la version bêta de la SU15 . Dois je tout désinstaller avant l’arrivée de la mise à jour ou , celle-ci écrasera la version bêta ?
Merci à toi
Très bonne question. N'ayant jamais participé aux beta, je ne saurai te répondre désolé
I'll take some low-level flights and see if I notice
amazing mod!
what is the situation FRAME RATE with this add-on?
Maybe now I can find the town of Bracebridge in Ontario between all those trees...
Or maybe Utterson, hey there neighbor. 🖐️😊
@@offgrid1461 ... fistbump...!!!
This or 4 Simmers realistic tree height?
Does this addon work with Rex accuseasons or does Rex over write the tree heights ?
No idea
Rex you can choose tree heights, but it also has so much more than this crappy addon.
Realistic would be between this and default in my area
yes it seems a little bit agressive in some areas
Does it improve the performance too?
I don't think so, it's not meant to
NO thanks, Rex Accu or Bijan does the same but adds SO much more..
in the cities is the pg thing i bet, you can test by putting that off.
Ooh maybe!
i don't know about this it turns all the trees in to bush's an shrubs . i don't know about other country's but where i live trees dwarf houses . some of the place it looks right but others its just looks like its removing trees an putting bushes there . i guess if it giving an fps boost is worth it
No, no fps push, as far as I've seen
That's a lot of money for what I imagine is a simple scaler injection into the sim.
Possible but you don't have to buy it
@@CaptainKenobi Well that's stating the obvious.
This has plagued DCS from the beginning and it bothers me because fixing it means mod, which means being unable to use most servers.
I tried DCS and didn't really like it 🤷
REX does this much better, you can choose the size of the trees and also change the shape and color of the trees, so nothing new
I know, rex is 5x the price
@@CaptainKenobi but 20X better 😁
😅
Nothing can makes MSFS realistic, the sim is gorgeous, but will never be realistic.
Accuseason been doing this for years
Yeah never heard of it before seeing all the comments ^^
@@CaptainKenobi Its good bro, although it can give you gradual lag overtime - if you have smooth weather change(have it on instant). Also issues if you use the map enhancement mod - where it pulls google maps. Rex Accuseason, WeatherForce & then parallel42s SimFx is the best combo for me :)
Doing fantastic today near Vancouver in bc Canada...hot but 😍 the best 😊😊😊😊
Can anybody Tell me if it works in different Seasons?
Nope, just tree height
I prefer the default myself.
Also ich muss sagen ich finde es überhaupt nicht realistisch, sieht ja aus als wäre weltweit ein Trupp unterwegs gewesen die die Bäume auf einer und die selben Höhe gestutzt hätte 😮💨
I don't think all the trees are at the same height
I find most of the trees are to small.
Its great!
That would be a waste for me as I only do high altitude flying
Yes
Why is Asobo not fix this in default rather than have the trees so tall like in the jungles of 65 million years ago.
incompetence
Good question
If you make the trees smaller, you'll need to have more trees to cover the same amount of ground. More trees = more processing power.
@@Hedgehobbit thats why i was saying they should make the trees shorter NOT smaller.
Dear everyone on the entire internet: Stop using camera shutter sound effects. It's unbelievably annoying.
Noted, but what should I use instead?
@@CaptainKenobi Nothing. Don't add sound effects. Nobody needs an audio prompt telling them the screen changed. We're all staring right at it.
Truth be told, the original looks more realistic to me.
Not worth, i’m soon to uninstall mfs 2020 & install mfs 2024 any scenery spend is a waste of money in my opinion
yes from what we have seen so far it seems trees will be a lot different in MSFS2024, so I understand but I don't regret the add-on, it's good value for the price.
@@CaptainKenobi i see your point 👍
Totally agree with you apart from I would be more than happy to spend on inibuilds products as they are reliable and worth it
October 17, 2024 !
So you think you will save money in MSFS 2024? Well guess what, MSFS 2024 will be subscription based (paying monthly) and gonna be more expensive than MSFS 2020 with all payware addon combined.
I don’t see a link for the realistic tree add on.
In game marketplace
🤷
as someone who has spend much of their working life around trees, the original is better, and even then some trees are too short, you just need to put an aircraft by the trees to see how short many of the default trees are, to charge $5 for this and slap the "Realistic" tag onto it is just feckless and a ripoff.
what in real world?!
🤷
I think it is ridiculous to have to pay for better looking graphics. or to pay 20, 30, on up to 80 dollars for a digital plane!
So you only fly default aircraft? (not judging, just curious)
Well not to be complaining to you unless your the one putting the prices on these things but all I'm saying is it shouldn't cost so much for some digital plane. I would love to fly anyone of the planes they have on the market but I also like to eat and have fuel in my vehicle. I don't know it's hard when you are a plane freak and it's all you can think about but your too broke to even buy a digital plane let alone get a pilot license and plane. Just saying!
I understand perfectly. But some aircraft, even virtual ones, have required the work of one or more people for months, even years if you think of PMDG. There are plenty of free add-ons on PC, but it's a shame that this section never saw the light of day on Xbox...
That's fair. and I do realize that people do put a lot of work into this flight sim and want to get paid. I feel that! It is an amazing piece of work and I love it! I just get a bit razzled when I work my tookis off everyday and if and when I get a chance to get on all I can do is fly the same ol planes and drool all over my controller looking at something I want so bad but can't really afford. although I suppose I could save up for one or two lol
Don't miss videos in the coming weeks 🤫
Cant see much of a difference to be honest!
Rex AccuSeason is way better...
That's for sure, 5x the price also so it better be better!
There will always be something "better" , in gaming its never ending. Then you get AccuSeason and a month later something better comes along and on and on and on and on. Theres different mods for different budgets.
Love the fact that I paid full price for an unfinished beta version of FS.
I saved up and got the Premium Deluxe. Not long after that they announced FS24. $%#&s sake!